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Topic: Request Support (or Opposition) for Flags here! - page 13. (Read 50461 times)

legendary
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Crypto Swap Exchange

Thanks for supporting the flag, hopefully another person chips and and maybe then they will decide to pay me out.
But it seems like without any detriment to them they seem fine just launching ad hominem attacks and resolving nothing.

I supported This flag after reading all about this case. The flag is now active.
Idk if they want to pay you because of the flag, but this is not the proper way to do any business.
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Thanks for supporting the flag, hopefully another person chips and and maybe then they will decide to pay me out.
But it seems like without any detriment to them they seem fine just launching ad hominem attacks and resolving nothing.
legendary
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
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legendary
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Please support flag against @BTClover999, OP of Affiliater, scammy project  with plagiarized whitepaper that has ICO going on at the moment.

Flag type 1   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1250
legendary
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What is the forum’s policy on accounts created for the purpose of supporting/opposing flags?

That's where the team of investigators of the Known Alts thread(s) work to expose such shill/sock puppets to identify and tag the alts.
legendary
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
I will tag them, with reference to this post.  Should I flag them?  Should they be reported to moderators?  What is the forum’s policy on accounts created for the purpose of supporting/opposing flags?
I don't think there is a forum policy for this. My personal policy is they're not important enough to care.
As long as invalid Flags are inactive, the system works just fine Smiley
sr. member
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True but as usual someone will spot it and will bring it to our attention.

If this happens on larger scale later in the future, I don't think it would be notified or handled always. Even opposing that number of abusive flags is not always handy. Only theymos could handle this at light speed and he should now.

Btw, the thread title changing trick make it more confusing, please stop.
legendary
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For voting - maybe. For creating a flag - no. Scammed newbies need to be able to create flags. It would be nice to have a limit on how many flags they can create
When you (In this case it seems that the person is me) are drinking on a lazy day in the local pub and if you already have drunk a lot then slip of tongue (better to say fingers on the keys) like this (restricting to create flags) is acceptable. What I mean by this is that you have a valid point here and I have edited my last post after seeing your response :-)


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but on the other hand Bitcoin SV and other "advanced" sockpuppets are able to farm merits fairly easily so that wouldn't be much of an impediment for them anyway.
True but as usual someone will spot it and will bring it to our attention.
legendary
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I too have not much strong opinion but if I someone asks me while I am drinking in the pub on a nice evening with an intend to start a conversation with me then I would say, yeah put some restrictions (possibly allow a minimum rank) for users before they are able to create flags and also to vote. This will eliminate the brand new fake accounts to abuse with false support or oppose in a flag.

For voting - maybe. For creating a flag - no. Scammed newbies need to be able to create flags. It would be nice to have a limit on how many flags they can create but on the other hand Bitcoin SV and other "advanced" sockpuppets are able to farm merits fairly easily so that wouldn't be much of an impediment for them anyway.
legendary
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Note the word “attempted” in the subject.  
Noted. It's a great idea to edit the response title that suits the needs.

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I know full well that it carries no weight
I too was wondering how it's not known by a user like you (seems to have good grasp than most of the members in the forum). Good thing is that I was not wrong.

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but it’s obscenely abusive.  I am not “fine with it”.  It is a Sibyl attack, and it is spam of the trust system.
Absolutely and this is not the only user in the system. We have game-protect and many other users who do constant abuse of trust feedback system. And you already realized that I too is not fine with it.

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The theoretical futility of the act does not alter this.
Fact.

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the retaliatory flags against PrimeNumber7 and now Lauda (!) are just plain stupid
Yes and it seems the flags created by the user The-Devil are very wrong after all and according to your language, "I am not fine with it" in other words, I oppose the flags created against the users PrimeNumber7 and Lauda.

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I think it really boils down to the question of whether the forum’s administration wants to let such useless Sibyls lie dormant indefinitely, or clean them up as the trash they are.  As a practical matter, I don’t have a strong opinion on which way they should handle this; but the question is worth broaching.
I too have not much strong opinion but if I someone asks me while I am drinking in the pub on a nice evening with an intend to start a conversation with me then I would say, yeah put some restrictions (possibly allow a minimum rank) for users before they are able to create flags and also to vote. This will eliminate the brand new fake accounts to abuse with false support or oppose in a flag.
legendary
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https://bpip.org
I wouldn't try to vote on all possible Flags. There's far too many of them, and ideally many different users should all check a few Flags once in a while to make voting more distributed.

I would like to have a one-click "advanced" option to oppose obviously frivolous flags, like the ones create by korner sockpuppets. It doesn't have to be all flags by a certain user but at least an option to select multiple ones easily and and then oppose all selected. The troll flags are basically DOSing the trust system since the effort to create them is so much lower than the combined effort of multiple users trying to oppose them.
copper member
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If you don’t do PGP, you don’t do crypto!
Supporting or opposing a flag from a non-DT account does not carry much weight. So we all should be fine with it.

Note the word “attempted” in the subject.  I know full well that it carries no weight, but it’s obscenely abusive.  I am not “fine with it”.  It is a Sibyl attack, and it is spam of the trust system.  The theoretical futility of the act does not alter this.

Moreover, it did apparently scare the newbie who apparently does not know he’s in no danger.  Please see above.  If you dig way back on my trust page, you will see negative sent feedback explaining that I had previously intended to send it, but I was afraid to when I was a newbie—for exactly this reason.  Against a newbie, false flags or tags are an intimidation tactic (though the retaliatory flags against PrimeNumber7 and now Lauda (!) are just plain stupid).

I think it really boils down to the question of whether the forum’s administration wants to let such useless Sibyls lie dormant indefinitely, or clean them up as the trash they are.  As a practical matter, I don’t have a strong opinion on which way they should handle this; but the question is worth broaching.

I will be opposing this flag too.

Good idea:  You’re not “fine with it”.
legendary
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What is the forum’s policy on accounts created for the purpose of supporting/opposing flags?
Supporting or opposing a flag from a non-DT account does not carry much weight. So we all should be fine with it. Talking about this flag from the user The-Devil seems very uninformed step. And it's not unexpected as per my opinion since that use is fairly new to the forum affairs.

I will be opposing this flag too.
copper member
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If you don’t do PGP, you don’t do crypto!
Someone has created several new accounts just to Support the Flag. I've Opposed it, the Reference thread only shows you've hit a nerve.

See here; the non-“Brand New” supporters are known alts.  Now, I see three new accounts.  I have archived their user pages to show that they are/were “Brand New” with 0 posts as of the time when I found them through their support of Flag 1213:


I will tag them, with reference to this post.  Should I flag them?  Should they be reported to moderators?  What is the forum’s policy on accounts created for the purpose of supporting/opposing flags?
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Someone has created several new accounts just to Support the Flag. I've Opposed it, the Reference thread only shows you've hit a nerve.
newbie
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I think this is the right topic discussion I am in.

There is a flag created against me for writing the topic Does this tread really deserve the attention it has got?

Flag--> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1213

I would request for justice. I do not find any mistake in the topic I started.
legendary
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Merit: 8114
Added a flag for "TrustUSD", which is a blatant ripoff of the "TrueUSD" stablecoin, except their token is neither stable nor backed by assets. They have a plagiarized white paper and their logo is almost an exact copy of the TrueUSD logo.

Flag here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1214

ANN:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-trusd-an-elestic-yet-stable-digital-asset-5205460

Scam accusation thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/trustusd-plagiarism-misleading-and-full-of-fake-comments-5213446
legendary
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Merit: 3000
Terminated.
While I was opposing BSV flags, I saw many other inactive flags which are probably wrong, which occurred in my absence.  I say “probably wrong” because they are against people I’d be more or less inclined to trust, and/or were opposed by people I trust.
I wouldn't try to vote on all possible Flags. There's far too many of them, and ideally many different users should all check a few Flags once in a while to make voting more distributed.
You can semi-automate it, then it's much faster than the time it takes them to make them which is important. Were it the reverse, we'd have quite a problem on ours hands.
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