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Quote from: suchmoon on November 12, 2019, 10:57:52 AM

But as it stands now, we shouldn't invalidate flags if the reference is removed. A scammer might trick moderators into deleting a thread and apparently moderators can't or won't check if it's used for a flag.

I don't like the idea of a flag that doesn't have a reference thread, maybe theymos can implement a little indicator near the "delete" button that informs moderators if the thread has been used as reference for a flag. That would at least warn a moderator if the person reporting the thread is the subject of the flag, there may be an effort to manipulate the system.

I don't think anyone is missing those reference threads started by korner, but why did they all get deleted? Was it due to being banned? I thought that only happened if the account was nuked, but he still has many posts.

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Quote from: JollyGood on November 12, 2019, 08:45:54 AM

Surely if a flag exists for a thread that no longer exists it means the alleged evidence the flag was created on is not available therefore the flag should not exist either.

I wonder what the community consensus is on this.

I dislike the whole idea of forcing a reference to point to a thread (can't point to a specific post or to an archive) and requiring it to not be self-modded etc but then it still allows the thread to be deleted, locked, or the contents to be completely replaced etc. If anything it should require an immutable archive link, or better yet - don't impose any specific requirements that can't be enforced anyway.

But as it stands now, we shouldn't invalidate flags if the reference is removed. A scammer might trick moderators into deleting a thread and apparently moderators can't or won't check if it's used for a flag.

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Quote from: mosprognoz on November 12, 2019, 07:08:00 AM

Quote from: LoyceV on November 12, 2019, 07:01:48 AM

Now we're on the subject: there are a few Active Flags (some with many supporters), while the Reference topic has been removed. See http://loyce.club/trust/flags/personal/ReferenceTopicDoesNotExist.html for the list.

That's the mod's problem. Why are they removing topics that are flagged ? Any solution ?

See this one for example:

Quote from: LoyceV on November 12, 2019, 07:01:48 AM

Quote from: JollyGood on November 12, 2019, 06:41:12 AM

The thread mentioned in the Flag seems to have been removed: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5200699

That instantly invalidates the Flag.
See http://loyce.club/archive/topics/520/5200699.html to see what the topic was all about.

I think it was deleted because the topic is "insubstantial". The solution is not to rely on other people's topics when you create a Flag. Don't link to for instance the scammer's own topic.

Quote from: JollyGood on November 12, 2019, 07:47:17 AM

Those types of flags should be removed, I hope theymos is taking a look at this otherwise anybody can create a flag then delete the thread associated with it.

So far, only 5 Flags have been removed. I don't think theymos wants to spend too much time on it, it's up to the community to Oppose invalid Flags.

Quote from: mosprognoz on November 12, 2019, 08:00:53 AM

Is it possible to delete a thread created by yourself ? I was thinking only mods have that option.

Users can only move their thread to Archival. Mods can move it to "the trashcan". But a user can just create a worthless thread, use it as Reference, and then wait for a Mod to clean up his thread.
Or a user could simply be Nuked, that removes all topics opened by said user.

Quote from: JollyGood on November 12, 2019, 08:45:54 AM

Surely if a flag exists for a thread that no longer exists it means the alleged evidence the flag was created on is not available therefore the flag should not exist either.

I wonder what the community consensus is on this.

I don't think this community will ever reach consensus on anything Tongue

My opinion: if an Active Flag doesn't have a valid Reference topic anymore, someone should create one, create a new Flag, and the current Flag supporters should stop supporting the old Flag and start supporting the new Flag.
I think that's the proper way to use the Flag system, but it's a lot of work.

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Quote from: examplens on November 12, 2019, 08:25:10 AM

Quote from: nutildah on November 12, 2019, 07:56:32 AM

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If possible, I think a flag made by a banned user linked to a missing thread should be auto-deleted, but being invalidated is just as good. They are far more useless than untrusted ratings.

There are several options here.
User can be banned because of old plagiarism. This ban does not mean anything if he creates a flag with real proof and has enough support to be active. It can only be towards inactive flags created by a banned user. Also, I find a few flags where flag creator has not associated thread opener and they haven't control to keep live thread.

Surely if a flag exists for a thread that no longer exists it means the alleged evidence the flag was created on is not available therefore the flag should not exist either.

I wonder what the community consensus is on this.

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Quote from: nutildah on November 12, 2019, 07:56:32 AM

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If possible, I think a flag made by a banned user linked to a missing thread should be auto-deleted, but being invalidated is just as good. They are far more useless than untrusted ratings.

There are several options here.
User can be banned because of old plagiarism. This ban does not mean anything if he creates a flag with real proof and has enough support to be active. It can only be towards inactive flags created by a banned user. Also, I find a few flags where flag creator has not associated thread opener and they haven't control to keep live thread.

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Quote from: JollyGood on November 12, 2019, 07:47:17 AM

#344 against mosprognoz is one of those dead linked flags. It was created by korner who has now been permanently banned.

Those types of flags should be removed, I hope theymos is taking a look at this otherwise anybody can create a flag then delete the thread associated with it.

Also if anybody is banned should their flags be automatically deleted too? What are your views?

Is it possible to delete a thread created by yourself ? I was thinking only mods have that option.

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Quote from: JollyGood on November 12, 2019, 07:47:17 AM

Quote from: LoyceV on November 12, 2019, 07:01:48 AM

Quote from: JollyGood on November 12, 2019, 06:41:12 AM

The thread mentioned in the Flag seems to have been removed: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5200699

That instantly invalidates the Flag.
I'm running an update now, when it's done, see http://loyce.club/archive/topics/520/52000699.html to see what the topic was all about.

Now we're on the subject: there are a few Active Flags (some with many supporters), while the Reference topic has been removed. See http://loyce.club/trust/flags/personal/ReferenceTopicDoesNotExist.html for the list.

#344 against mosprognoz is one of those dead linked flags. It was created by korner who has now been permanently banned.

Those types of flags should be removed, I hope theymos is taking a look at this otherwise anybody can create a flag hen delete the thread associated with it.

Also if anybody is banned should their flags be automatically deleted too? What are your views?

If possible, I think a flag made by a banned user linked to a missing thread should be auto-deleted, but being invalidated is just as good. They are far more useless than untrusted ratings.

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Quote from: LoyceV on November 12, 2019, 07:01:48 AM

Quote from: JollyGood on November 12, 2019, 06:41:12 AM

The thread mentioned in the Flag seems to have been removed: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5200699

That instantly invalidates the Flag.
I'm running an update now, when it's done, see http://loyce.club/archive/topics/520/52000699.html to see what the topic was all about.

Now we're on the subject: there are a few Active Flags (some with many supporters), while the Reference topic has been removed. See http://loyce.club/trust/flags/personal/ReferenceTopicDoesNotExist.html for the list.

#344 against mosprognoz is one of those dead linked flags. It was created by korner who has now been permanently banned.

Those types of flags should be removed, I hope theymos is taking a look at this otherwise anybody can create a flag then delete the thread associated with it.

Also if anybody is banned should their flags be automatically deleted too? What are your views?

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Quote from: LoyceV on November 12, 2019, 07:01:48 AM

Now we're on the subject: there are a few Active Flags (some with many supporters), while the Reference topic has been removed. See http://loyce.club/trust/flags/personal/ReferenceTopicDoesNotExist.html for the list.

That's the mod's problem. Why are they removing topics that are flagged ? Any solution ?

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Quote from: JollyGood on November 12, 2019, 06:41:12 AM

The thread mentioned in the Flag seems to have been removed: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5200699

That instantly invalidates the Flag.
See http://loyce.club/archive/topics/520/5200699.html to see what the topic was all about.

Now we're on the subject: there are a few Active Flags (some with many supporters), while the Reference topic has been removed. See http://loyce.club/trust/flags/personal/ReferenceTopicDoesNotExist.html for the list.

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Quote from: suchmoon on November 11, 2019, 11:47:22 PM

Please oppose this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=975

Frivolous flag, invalid reference.

The thread mentioned in the Flag seems to have been removed: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5200699

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Please oppose this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=975

Frivolous flag, invalid reference.

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A Flag has been created by the victim of a fake exchange that currently has withheld $210,000 worth of cypto (around 23.8 BTC)

The reason given was that "law enforcement agencies requested it" and that "the origin of the money is from money laundering".

This selective scamming attempt will hopefully backfire on the thieves that set up these businesses to selective scam before implementing their exit strategy.

Please support this flag because regardless of the chances of the funds being returned we cannot sit idle and allow these scammers to simply get away with $210,000 worth of cypto without at least making our feelings towards them known.

cryptex.net ANN self-moderated thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cryptexnet-cryptocurrency-trading-platform-2454750

Scam Accusation: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-cryptexnet-hold-my-fund-210000-and-refused-to-pay-back-5200216

Scam Accusation: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/super-scam-fake-exchange-cryptexnet-5200391

Profile: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cryptexnet-1235755

Profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1235755

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Quote from: nutildah on November 10, 2019, 02:11:45 AM

Quote from: kingcarsen on November 09, 2019, 02:22:16 PM

mosprognoz, Lauda, suchmoon, and owlcatz are all wanted for defamation

LOL. "Wanted for defamation". Good one.

Flags opposed.

This made me laugh

The WANTED poster is hilarious

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Quote from: kingcarsen on November 09, 2019, 02:22:16 PM

mosprognoz, Lauda, suchmoon, and owlcatz are all wanted for defamation

LOL. "Wanted for defamation". Good one.

Flags opposed.

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Quote from: kingcarsen on November 09, 2019, 02:22:16 PM

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A good example of the low level of IQ and serious incompetence in creating flags. As expected from scammers living in their basement. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: kingcarsen on November 09, 2019, 02:22:16 PM

Please support the following flags, this forum is full of cesspool trolls like mosprognoz and Lauda, take em down boys! For the record too, fuck Bitcoin SV and fuck Craig Wrong.

mosprognoz, Lauda, suchmoon, and owlcatz are all wanted for defamation, if you have any leads on their personal information, please feel free to shoot me a PM! Wink

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=964

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=963

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=962

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=961

All opposed due to improper flag references, which is ironic to say the least.

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Please support the following flags, this forum is full of cesspool trolls like mosprognoz and Lauda, take em down boys! For the record too, fuck Bitcoin SV and fuck Craig Wrong.

mosprognoz, Lauda, suchmoon, and owlcatz are all wanted for defamation, if you have any leads on their personal information, please feel free to shoot me a PM! Wink

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=964

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=963

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=962

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=961

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Requesting opposition for false flags created by a well known scammer kingcarsen

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kingcarsen-860708

False flags :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=964

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=963

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=962

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=961

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