Topic: Requesting Dooglus to be removed from DefaultTrust - page 2. (Read 3905 times)

The way the trust system works is that a single negative by anyone high enough up resets your rating to zero. In my case BayAreaCoins left me a negative trust rating that is entirely undeserved because he was butthurt when I pointed out that his "clamchecker" site was charging fees incorrectly. Rather than fixing it he got mad. Then when I started paying attention to people asking the CLAM developers to consider doing something about the large amount of "CLAM digging" that was going on he went off the deep end with his paranoid ranting about the developers wanting to ban digging. At one point he went as far as saying that he wanted one of the developers to die in childbirth. The guy's just an asshole who has no business being in the default trust system at all. I removed him from my view of the trust system and guess that eventually others will come to the same conclusion that his ratings are worthless. When it first happened I considered PMing the others in DT1 and asking them to ~BayAreaCoins to fix the situation, but I don't think it's really worth bothering people with. I don't trade here and don't care what my trust rating is that much.

Shorena: It's true that I mentioned to BAC that I was working on getting Just-Dice working with the CLAM client a few weeks before it went live. I never made a secret of it, and was making lots of public pull requests to the CLAM git repository. It wouldn't have been hard to figure it out for anyone who was paying attention. As for my having lots of addresses to dig from JD and Doge-Dice, that's not the case. I had somewhere between 20 and 30 funded addresses from all my wallets in total, and got a little over 100 CLAMs from digging. I have always been very careful with my wallets, regularly sweeping coins into cold storage. I just randomly checked the JD hot wallet right now. There are 17 funded addresses in it. 8  of those contain faucet dust. So my very active hot wallet has 9 non-dust funded addresses right now. That's similar to how the hot BTC wallet used to be:


QuickSeller is always going on about how I "endorsed" a couple of gambling sites that turned out to be scams. I always went to great lengths to say that I didn't know who ran them and that I didn't trust them. I was never anything but honest about my dealings with the sites. In both cases I was able to withdraw my deposit before they stopped allowing withdrawals. In both cases there were signs that something was wrong before the sites shut down, so it wasn't hard to get out if you were a little cautious, as I usually am. I think QS is pissed at me for some reason - maybe because I stood up to him when he was bullying tsp, but I don't know if that's really why. Recently he dug up some years old story about Just-Dice accepting deposits from TF's inputs.io site. Now I see he's saying I offered "incentives" for people to use it? That's not true at all, but happily he has lost pretty much any credibility he once had here anyway.

In short two trolls have been attacking me. Hopefully anyone with a little intelligence can see it for what it is.

I only just found this thread after RayBrady mentioned it in the bustabit trollbox. Thanks for bringing it to my attention Ray. I think.

Note: I only just skimmed the thread and answered the main points that stuck in my mind. I didn't want to do my usual trick of quoting every point and addressing it. If I missed anything important I'm happy to reply to it, but I'm kind of sick of going over the same old stuff again and again.

Yes CITM was added to DT 1 because of his trust list, but also partially because of his very high trust score -- CITM's trust score was at the maximum and if you were to manually calculate it, his trust score was well above the maximum, although some of that was from people exclusively on his trust list.

Part of the reason why dooglus was added to DT 1 is because of his very high trust score, however this is no longer the case with his new negative trust. If you look at dooglus's trust list, then you will see how much of a joke it is, the majority of the people in dooglus's trust list are already in DT, and those that are not already in DT pretty much universally have zero trading experience, and have very little reason to be anywhere near DT. They also tend to leave negative trust based on speculation.

BB removed QS for faking a ban, and TC removed him for..... mayne is it a long story.

What nonsense! Then why was QS removed from DT? It is the most ridiculous concept that -ve trust members can sit well in DT.

I do not see where he has abused his position at all? I would trust him with holding coins just like pretty much anyone else here. The whole CLAM thing...not sure and do not really care. I do not see how him being removed really changes things for the better here trust wise? If he were removed then they would probably need to add a new person with a good list setup.

I all ready said that its not hard to read BACoins thoughts & his reasons.

However, How deceiving it is to change the distribution thing when you see someone else is in the profit zone ? If you can change the foundation just to stop people to get ahead then you are definitely not trustworthy and have no integrity.

The honesty question is really a complex one.People will not run with your money/coins because of their reputation and it might bring their future business down or less benefiting (which will be far more then the amount they can scam by running ).However bac's has cleared this well enough.

Doog might/might not be involved but if you see from his point of view then why would a businessman be a social worker and work for people rather than benefiting for himself ? why should he not make millions by changing,being late in disclosing some basic things etc.. ? he is not a Messiah ,is he ?

But again nothing can be judged until it is proven that doog knew everything and then it will be untrustworthy of him but he will still return your coins loll.."it's like not feeling anything for the dead but not killing either".

Wrong.  I owned more CLAM than Dooglus at JD launched (I owned 30% of the CLAM O/S at the time of launch) and I probably loved JD more than even Dooglus... you'll see Dooglus say this same thing in his past post history

Most of my friends own CLAM and I don't want to hurt their holdings.

The only person I truthfully just do not like and never did is SuperCLAM (AKA CreativeCLAM and whatever other accounts she's had).... Xploited blindly follows he for no reason which leads me to believe they are crooked together in regards to something that they aren't saying.

My trust for Xploited was because he didn't do what he said he was going to and left me with a site I paid thousands of dollars for it to work and it still was buggy (I told CreativeCLAM I hope she died during child birth and he didn't take to kindly to that fuck her and I stand by the comment... it'd be best for CLAM at this point IMO)


 


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My trust list still consists of:

Dooglus, saltyspitoon, dognutz. (not including default trust)

and that is that.

As far as BTC goes and no coding included I'd trust all of them with over $1 million dollars if needed and I know they'd give it back.

I would NOT recommending trusting people because Dooglus trusts them.

If you give dooglus Bitcoins and he is supposed to give them back... he's going to.

I do not think he should be removed from the DT, but I do think ppl should be warned about things he has a strong hold on because I do believe he would use his coding powers to bend your service over and fuck you in the ass. Little known fact and kinda a lols - Dogecoin got pwned by dooglus (again I can't bitch because we were sure that Nix and I's mining pool was on the right side of the fork... it actually helped us... I never asked doog if he did it on purpose to help us, but I kinda get the feeling dooglus doesn't "accidentally" add 0's on withdraws and I do thank him for that... he was good to me for a long time until JD filled up with loser cocksuckers.)

Just because I don't trust him in regards to that doesn't mean that I don't think he'd steal BTC directly.  He will def leave off details that will save his BTC, but lose your coins as seen in the exchange he built for the aussie and the dice sites that he processed his withdraw on hours prior to them robbing everyone else.  The dude is deceptive and smart as fuck... he's a poker player what do you expect?

My trust left for him is accurate and I'll try to find the Doog post of him saying that he told me.  I felt like I was told because Rat4 had pretty much ruined CLAM cheating the lotto and if he would have held his CLAM on the JD launched it would have fucked shit up... over all it was for the good of the whole and if you look at the CLAM market it obviously worked out in every ones favor.

Feel free to ask me anything and check my/doogs post history for more details.

I know how badly doog wants to post.

Doog is among the the most trusted users on this forum. If I won a million bucks gambling one night and had to choose one guy to hold it, it'd be dooglus. He'd be the last person to sell his account. The last to scam, the last to run off with gunds. He's an avid gambler himself, just because you see him gambling on a website, or have that website in his sig, he is not endorsing it.

If I have a Primedice sig in my profile, and Primedice runs off tomorrow, is it my fault? Did I encourage you to go to Primedice? Did I know it was a scam? To call dooglus a scammer is a joke imo.

Why should we trust a newbie? Looking at his trust ratings, he has done less bad than good. So he should be kept at his trust.

In addition, if you do not agree with their feedback you can ask them for more details and / or exclude them from your trust list.

As a side node, the "talking through feedback" thing doesn't usually work out well. Personal messages might be a better option.

I think it's pretty clear if you consider everything relating to clam/JD and read it.

Literally all ratings are just abuse if your logic is taken into consideration.It's Opinion based and he can have his own regardless of the weight of DT.

I disagree. With all the sock puppets¹ around it is important to know who you're shilling for. Also all you have said was:


And the answer to that is DT is a separate concept from the trust score. Your score does not impact the quality of your feedback.


^{Hello QuickSeller, are you using multiple accounts to comment on this thread?}

That would be great because there is no reference link in his rating, he didn't provide any proof or evidence so in any case he is the one abusing dt position.

It was enough for me to divest everything from JD and sell all my CLAM, but I doubt that doog knew about CLAM in advance. Just because of the way JD and doge dice works they had plenty of addresses to dig CLAMs from.

Maybe BAC can shed some more light on the rating.

The drama about the default trust will never end  , however you should argue better your point...

Don't know him but what is he accused of? Promoting an altcoin and making money on it? Is this really worth neg. trust? Many people here are doing it.

Thats stunna you're talking about. And he's on DT 2, under doog's trust list. Dooglus runs just-dice.com.

Isn't dooglus the guy behind Prime Dice?

If so then he is one of the most trusted members of the community?