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Topic: Requesting theymos to remove CanaryInTheMine from DefaultTrust (Read 15798 times)

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I think the main problem is that the trust system has given members that haven't proven themselves responsible enough the ability to mark someone's account with negative trust, and essentially ruin the account.

Any inaccuracies will eventually be fixed. I'm not going to allow the default trust network to contain inaccurate ratings for long.
Is this statement still accurate? If so then what is the definition of "long"
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this thread is becoming ridiculous.

it's fun though..... Amazed at the title change, remove CITM from deault trust..... madness.

What was madness three months ago is now a reality. Amazing how time changes everything...

I'm being really stupid I know, but can someone tell me where CITM is, because I can't find him  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;full

That's where he was, he's now been removed. I'll lock this thread in a few days or when it stops being useful. Any follow on issues can have their own thread.
legendary
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Now as FriedCat is missing with more than a million dollar, can we expect CanaryInTheMine to be removed from DefaultTrust ? FriedCat is still seating happily in Canary's trust list. Or this time also Canary will get away just by removing him from the trust list like it happened for Mabshark ?

the lost of FC or any malicious thing done by FC isnt the fault of CITM, CITM could remove him from his list , infact, CITM should do some task to sort out his trust list


It has been months that CITM was requested to do so by many people on this forum. His inaction clearly shows he does not want to do that (Well, I understand the intention, but as I dont have direct proof, I wont talk about it). Now babysitting FriedCat and many other people who are supporting AM hash & HaveLock even after a million dollar scam, must be rectified. So, the first step is to demote CITM to trust level 2. He'll still have the power to make people Green/Red. But, he wont have the power to give the power to scammers to make other people Green/Red. I think, DefaultTrust need to have pure people. Not the ones whose trusted ones are involved in million dollar scam.

Funny thing is, CITM doesn't show up in my trust network due to people in my trust list excluding him being > the people who include him.

Everyone relying on the Default set by the forum is inheriting CITM trust. Is that good ?

It is amazing how Theymos, Badbear, etc are willing to allow thieves responsible for stealing over $1 million stay on the trust list, and users like Nubbins who think the default trust is his personal tool for extortion and retribution over and over https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10702253 to stay on the default trust list while other users are removed for individual petty incidents with no actual accusations of scamming even. It is pretty clear that the default trust list exists to PROTECT scammers and to punish anyone who exposes them. There is no other reason for such obvious selective enforcement to be applied to it. Theymos and company hide under this veil of justness and "rule of law", but then when it comes time to apply those same standards to their personal pals, there is always silence at best or attacks on the person pointing it out.

Canaryinthemine needs to be removed from the default trust list, he has clearly demonstrated his desire to leave people on his trust list who are thieves and regularly abuse the system for personal gain. Its funny how Theymos will personally go around asking users to remove me from the default trust for a single misunderstanding over an incident, yet some one steals a million dollars and he suddenly has nothing to say! If there is no rule of law for those in charge, it is just a matter of time before no one respects any of the rules.

P.S. I find it extremely telling that Canaryinthemine found time to add the op of this thread to his excluded trust list, but magically can't find the time to do the same for some one responsible for the theft of over a million dollars. CITM thinks his position on the default trust is for his own personal benefit, not a tool for the community to use to see who deals honestly.
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I think it is interesting to see that CITM has so many people on his trust list that gave positive trust to FC that he still has 150 trust even with two negatives.

It is also interesting that everyone except two people are on CITM's trust list that gave FC positive trust (a few are on others trust as well)
legendary
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pure people

 Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

What is wrong with all of you?

There are no pure people.
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Now as FriedCat is missing with more than a million dollar, can we expect CanaryInTheMine to be removed from DefaultTrust ? FriedCat is still seating happily in Canary's trust list. Or this time also Canary will get away just by removing him from the trust list like it happened for Mabshark ?

the lost of FC or any malicious thing done by FC isnt the fault of CITM, CITM could remove him from his list , infact, CITM should do some task to sort out his trust list


It has been months that CITM was requested to do so by many people on this forum. His inaction clearly shows he does not want to do that (Well, I understand the intention, but as I dont have direct proof, I wont talk about it). Now babysitting FriedCat and many other people who are supporting AM hash & HaveLock even after a million dollar scam, must be rectified. So, the first step is to demote CITM to trust level 2. He'll still have the power to make people Green/Red. But, he wont have the power to give the power to scammers to make other people Green/Red. I think, DefaultTrust need to have pure people. Not the ones whose trusted ones are involved in million dollar scam.

Funny thing is, CITM doesn't show up in my trust network due to people in my trust list excluding him being > the people who include him.

Everyone relying on the Default set by the forum is inheriting CITM trust. Is that good ?
legendary
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Both, if by power you mean level in your trust list (higher in your trust list tree will be more effective at exclusions). Exclusions must also be > inclusions.
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Funny thing is, CITM doesn't show up in my trust network due to people in my trust list excluding him being > the people who include him.

Is that done on quantity or collective power of those people?
legendary
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Funny thing is, CITM doesn't show up in my trust network due to people in my trust list excluding him being > the people who include him.
legendary
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Now as FriedCat is missing with more than a million dollar, can we expect CanaryInTheMine to be removed from DefaultTrust ? FriedCat is still seating happily in Canary's trust list. Or this time also Canary will get away just by removing him from the trust list like it happened for Mabshark ?

the lost of FC or any malicious thing done by FC isnt the fault of CITM, CITM could remove him from his list , infact, CITM should do some task to sort out his trust list
KWH
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FC is also in PsychoticBoy and KWH.

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Did you not see the ~ (strikethrough) before the name?
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FC is also in PsychoticBoy and KWH.

   -MZ
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Now as FriedCat is missing with more than a million dollar, can we expect CanaryInTheMine to be removed from DefaultTrust ? FriedCat is still seating happily in Canary's trust list. Or this time also Canary will get away just by removing him from the trust list like it happened for Mabshark ?
Well for starters, it is 100% certain that FC should be removed from CITM's list. Period.

I would say that CITM was effectively endorsing FC and ASICminer via his group buys so he should at least partially be held accountable for what happened, he probably shouldn't have to repay ~$1 million+ in stolen property but this should be a very black mark on his reputation.

I agree on the removal of FriedCat from anyone's lists until whatever is going on gets cleared up. I am lost on how he is to blame for that company being scammers though? He can not help that they did any of this.
Many members on Canary's trust list had given FC positive trust. Canary also was effectively endorsing FC when he was selling his miners and effectively said that he was going to send first for products being purchased with his customers money.

It seems FC has been added under dserrano5's trust list now !!!
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Now as FriedCat is missing with more than a million dollar, can we expect CanaryInTheMine to be removed from DefaultTrust ? FriedCat is still seating happily in Canary's trust list. Or this time also Canary will get away just by removing him from the trust list like it happened for Mabshark ?
Well for starters, it is 100% certain that FC should be removed from CITM's list. Period.

I would say that CITM was effectively endorsing FC and ASICminer via his group buys so he should at least partially be held accountable for what happened, he probably shouldn't have to repay ~$1 million+ in stolen property but this should be a very black mark on his reputation.

I agree on the removal of FriedCat from anyone's lists until whatever is going on gets cleared up. I am lost on how he is to blame for that company being scammers though? He can not help that they did any of this.
Many members on Canary's trust list had given FC positive trust. Canary also was effectively endorsing FC when he was selling his miners and effectively said that he was going to send first for products being purchased with his customers money.
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Now as FriedCat is missing with more than a million dollar, can we expect CanaryInTheMine to be removed from DefaultTrust ? FriedCat is still seating happily in Canary's trust list. Or this time also Canary will get away just by removing him from the trust list like it happened for Mabshark ?
Well for starters, it is 100% certain that FC should be removed from CITM's list. Period.

I would say that CITM was effectively endorsing FC and ASICminer via his group buys so he should at least partially be held accountable for what happened, he probably shouldn't have to repay ~$1 million+ in stolen property but this should be a very black mark on his reputation.

I agree on the removal of FriedCat from anyone's lists until whatever is going on gets cleared up. I am lost on how he is to blame for that company being scammers though? He can not help that they did any of this.
hero member
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Now as FriedCat is missing with more than a million dollar, can we expect CanaryInTheMine to be removed from DefaultTrust ? FriedCat is still seating happily in Canary's trust list. Or this time also Canary will get away just by removing him from the trust list like it happened for Mabshark ?
Well for starters, it is 100% certain that FC should be removed from CITM's list. Period.

I would say that CITM was effectively endorsing FC and ASICminer via his group buys so he should at least partially be held accountable for what happened, he probably shouldn't have to repay ~$1 million+ in stolen property but this should be a very black mark on his reputation.
sr. member
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Now as FriedCat is missing with more than a million dollar, can we expect CanaryInTheMine to be removed from DefaultTrust ? FriedCat is still seating happily in Canary's trust list. Or this time also Canary will get away just by removing him from the trust list like it happened for Mabshark ?
legendary
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I must say at least the good part of people going ape shit and having a meltdown on this forum because of their own action is that it can be funny/entertaining.



At least you can admit your constant harassment of users is not about "scambusting" but is about your own entertainment and gratification.

Lol nice try buddy. Don't read between the lines too much.

If I see someone being dishonest I will call them out. If it ends up being entertaining that is just a byproduct.

it is funny to me because you can't seem to see how ridiculous you have been in the past few months since you were removed from the default trust list.

If people want to make fools of themselves that ain't no one's fault but their own.

Don't make it my problem they are humiliated by own actions. Laughing ain't wrong.  Tongue

FYI I have not harassed anyone here. If so I think I would have been permabanned long ago.
legendary
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I must say at least the good part of people going ape shit and having a meltdown on this forum because of their own action is that it can be funny/entertaining.



At least you can admit your constant harassment of users is not about "scambusting" but is about your own entertainment and gratification.
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
I must say at least the good part of people going ape shit and having a meltdown on this forum because of their own action is that it can be funny/entertaining.

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