Topic: Requesting theymos to remove CanaryInTheMine from DefaultTrust - page 4. (Read 15809 times)
December 16, 2014, 08:07:09 AM
I feel that anyone that uses a position on default trust to belittle other people or uses the position in an attempt to boost their own sales or boost their feedback in the way i think canary is doing by putting people that are low rank in his circle of trust as it inflates his manufactured trust number in an attempt to make himself seem more trustworthy. I think that anyone that uses default trust for personal gain should be removed.
December 16, 2014, 04:01:44 AM
Given that the topic of this thread is your feedback against those companies, and that it depends on circumstances changing (being able to prove they aren't a ponzi), I would think you would jump at the chance to show you are trustworthy and fair with your ratings, and that you do intend to change feedback as circumstances change. Being in default trust network doesn't mean everyone trusts you, just that the one person who put you on their list does.
I've already proven that I'm willing to remove feedback by removing feedback from nexusmining. Like I said, I've reached out to der_troll who has simply ignored my PM's. I'm willing to remove that negative feedback, der_troll just has to be willing to do the same and get in touch with me.
December 16, 2014, 02:05:07 AM
Well I don't really have an opinion on leaving those companies negative feedback because I know nothing of the circumstances, but what I want to know is, Mabsark, do you feel leaving retaliatory negative feedback to der_troll is appropriate considering yours carries so much more weight?
At the time is was left they carried equal weight and I reached out to der_troll immediately via PM urging him to reread the thread and reconsider his decision. Until he responds to me, then yes, I do think it's appropriate.
Would it be appropriate for me to change that feedback just because der_troll's trust level changed though?
Well since it was unwarranted in the first place to retaliate with negative feedback I think it's fair to change it to a neutral rating or remove it. Just because someone else abuses the trust system doesn't mean you should too, that's one of the points of being on default trust and having a higher feedback weight, to not misuse it and use it to point out scams and scammers. If you want to keep your default trust position I suggest you remove it and rethink the ones you've left if they would hold up when a person makes a thread like this, whether it's proof or your train of thought that led up to your decision.
December 16, 2014, 01:42:38 AM
Well I don't really have an opinion on leaving those companies negative feedback because I know nothing of the circumstances, but what I want to know is, Mabsark, do you feel leaving retaliatory negative feedback to der_troll is appropriate considering yours carries so much more weight?
At the time is was left they carried equal weight and I reached out to der_troll immediately via PM urging him to reread the thread and reconsider his decision. Until he responds to me, then yes, I do think it's appropriate.
Would it be appropriate for me to change that feedback just because der_troll's trust level changed though?
Given that the topic of this thread is your feedback against those companies, and that it depends on circumstances changing (being able to prove they aren't a ponzi), I would think you would jump at the chance to show you are trustworthy and fair with your ratings, and that you do intend to change feedback as circumstances change. Being in default trust network doesn't mean everyone trusts you, just that the one person who put you on their list does.
December 15, 2014, 10:55:35 AM
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LOL. I was invested in NEOBEE for a whole day and I sold my shares in ActM near the height of the share price in summer 2013. I then invested them into Labcoin and sold them off not long later too. I was also trading DMS around that time too. I used to trade securities all the time on BTC-TC and BitFunder. I don't pretend that I've never made mistakes. I'm not perfect.
Lambchops claims are complete nonsense though, as proven by the fact that the negative feedback was left over half a year to a year after the events under discussion. If you look through his posting history, it's nothing but trolling. If there was an Internet Troll of the Year award, this guy would get my nomination. If you ran such a poll on this forum, I have no doubt whatsoever that NotLampchop (or one of his older accounts) would win. I wouldn't be surprised if his accounts were the only nominees. The only reason he posts to this forum is because he loves winding people up.
LOL. I was invested in NEOBEE for a whole day and I sold my shares in ActM near the height of the share price in summer 2013. I then invested them into Labcoin and sold them off not long later too. I was also trading DMS around that time too. I used to trade securities all the time on BTC-TC and BitFunder. I don't pretend that I've never made mistakes. I'm not perfect.
Lambchops claims are complete nonsense though, as proven by the fact that the negative feedback was left over half a year to a year after the events under discussion. If you look through his posting history, it's nothing but trolling. If there was an Internet Troll of the Year award, this guy would get my nomination. If you ran such a poll on this forum, I have no doubt whatsoever that NotLampchop (or one of his older accounts) would win. I wouldn't be surprised if his accounts were the only nominees. The only reason he posts to this forum is because he loves winding people up.
"Winding people up" is exactly what needs to happen when said people are getting fleeced.
Looking at the date, I remember why you've left me that vindictive feedback: I interfered with your pimping of your AM "investment," which continues to tank to this day
@Quickseller: Mabsark leaving me negative trust is well within the forum rules. The problem is not Mabsark, but the rules. Attempting to grow a relevant trust system from a default trust seed is fundamentally, conceptually flawed.
Edit re. "feedback was left over half a year to a year after the events under discussion":
The chart starts on June 11th, when I got the vote of no confidence from Mabsark for suggesting that AM prices would tank:
December 15, 2014, 10:49:26 AM
Okay, so let's say for arguments sake that he is a "troll", can you link him being a troll to it being necessary to not be trusted? Or can you link him trolling to him trying to scam?
December 15, 2014, 10:42:54 AM
...was mabsark invested in any of the securities that were behind any of the scams that were called out?
Of course! Several. Why do you think he left me negative feedback?
Not sure how this would work. He was "invested" in NeoBee and Active Mining, but he can always claim that his feedback was unrelated to these "investments."
LOL. I was invested in NEOBEE for a whole day and I sold my shares in ActM near the height of the share price in summer 2013. I then invested them into Labcoin and sold them off not long later too. I was also trading DMS around that time too. I used to trade securities all the time on BTC-TC and BitFunder. I don't pretend that I've never made mistakes. I'm not perfect.
Lambchops claims are complete nonsense though, as proven by the fact that the negative feedback was left over half a year to a year after the events under discussion. If you look through his posting history, it's nothing but trolling. If there was an Internet Troll of the Year award, this guy would get my nomination. If you ran such a poll on this forum, I have no doubt whatsoever that NotLampchop (or one of his older accounts) would win. I wouldn't be surprised if his accounts were the only nominees. The only reason he posts to this forum is because he loves winding people up.
December 15, 2014, 10:20:11 AM
...was mabsark invested in any of the securities that were behind any of the scams that were called out?
Of course! Several. Why do you think he left me negative feedback?
Not sure how this would work. He was "invested" in NeoBee and Active Mining, but he can always claim that his feedback was unrelated to these "investments."
December 15, 2014, 10:15:23 AM
How does warning
you just can't help yourself, can you?
The securities forum is a festering cesspool of scam. Not going to whitewash it.
Re. your edit: Nothing has "been clarified to be legitimate," the offering was pulled because people stopped falling for this shit. Hopefully, in a small part, thanks to me.
December 15, 2014, 10:13:26 AM
How does warning
you just can't help yourself, can you? please feel free to read from that post onwards through the thread. That one post was the beginning of your little clique of trolls onslaught against that particular offering, which had already been clarified to be legitimate.
In that particular case, your clique of trolls was very heavy handed and most likely, IMHO caused the failure of that offering.
December 15, 2014, 10:12:12 AM
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meanwhile...
It's actually like this: The issue here is that you feel people are unable to make up their own minds. This is your own flaw, not Mabsark's. I have had a few discussions with Mabsark regarding a couple of issues and not once have I felt that he has tried to sway me one way or another.
There is a huge difference between discussing your opinion, and forcing your opinion on others. Where I have found Mabsark to be the former, you are the latter.
You sir are merely a troll who feeds on other's indecision.
meanwhile...
It's actually like this: The issue here is that you feel people are unable to make up their own minds. This is your own flaw, not Mabsark's. I have had a few discussions with Mabsark regarding a couple of issues and not once have I felt that he has tried to sway me one way or another.
There is a huge difference between discussing your opinion, and forcing your opinion on others. Where I have found Mabsark to be the former, you are the latter.
You sir are merely a troll who feeds on other's indecision.
Unless you feel I can crawl through the intertubes, I have not forced my opinion on anyone. How can posting on a forum force anyone to do anything?
heavy trolling: one thread example.
@Havelock; provasic; cbcm.co: I warned you to hunt responsibly, now it's too late. The noble Bitcoin Investor has been hunted into extinction
The American Passenger Pigeon, once a staple food of American Indians, is now extinct.
Consider the chilling parallels between this noble bird's tragic tale and the plight of the Bitcoin Investor.
"At a nesting site in Petoskey, Michigan in 1878, 50,000birds Bitcoin investors were killed each day for nearly five months. The surviving adults attempted a second nesting at new sites, but were killed by professional hunters before they had a chance to raise any young."[1]
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"Still another way [of hunting Bitcoin investors] was to simply set a nesting tree on fire, cooking thedoves investors or collecting them as they tried to escape."[1]
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"Two farmers from the vicinity of Russelsville, distant more than a hundred miles, had driven upwards of three hundred hogs to be fattened on thepigeons Bitcoin investors which were to be slaughtered. Here and there, the people employed in plucking and salting what had already been procured, were seen sitting in the midst of large piles of these birds amateur financiers. The dung lay several inches deep, covering the whole extent of the roosting-place."[1]
1. Passenger Pigeon, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_Pigeon#Hunting
Consider the chilling parallels between this noble bird's tragic tale and the plight of the Bitcoin Investor.
"At a nesting site in Petoskey, Michigan in 1878, 50,000
...
"Still another way [of hunting Bitcoin investors] was to simply set a nesting tree on fire, cooking the
...
"Two farmers from the vicinity of Russelsville, distant more than a hundred miles, had driven upwards of three hundred hogs to be fattened on the
1. Passenger Pigeon, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_Pigeon#Hunting
How does warning
December 15, 2014, 10:08:24 AM
...was mabsark invested in any of the securities that were behind any of the scams that were called out?
Of course! Several. Why do you think he left me negative feedback?
Not sure how this would work. He was "invested" in NeoBee and Active Mining, but he can always claim that his feedback was unrelated to these "investments."
December 15, 2014, 10:01:22 AM
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meanwhile...
It's actually like this: The issue here is that you feel people are unable to make up their own minds. This is your own flaw, not Mabsark's. I have had a few discussions with Mabsark regarding a couple of issues and not once have I felt that he has tried to sway me one way or another.
There is a huge difference between discussing your opinion, and forcing your opinion on others. Where I have found Mabsark to be the former, you are the latter.
You sir are merely a troll who feeds on other's indecision.
meanwhile...
It's actually like this: The issue here is that you feel people are unable to make up their own minds. This is your own flaw, not Mabsark's. I have had a few discussions with Mabsark regarding a couple of issues and not once have I felt that he has tried to sway me one way or another.
There is a huge difference between discussing your opinion, and forcing your opinion on others. Where I have found Mabsark to be the former, you are the latter.
You sir are merely a troll who feeds on other's indecision.
Unless you feel I can crawl through the intertubes, I have not forced my opinion on anyone. How can posting on a forum force anyone to do anything?
heavy trolling: one thread example.
@Havelock; provasic; cbcm.co: I warned you to hunt responsibly, now it's too late. The noble Bitcoin Investor has been hunted into extinction
The American Passenger Pigeon, once a staple food of American Indians, is now extinct.
Consider the chilling parallels between this noble bird's tragic tale and the plight of the Bitcoin Investor.
"At a nesting site in Petoskey, Michigan in 1878, 50,000birds Bitcoin investors were killed each day for nearly five months. The surviving adults attempted a second nesting at new sites, but were killed by professional hunters before they had a chance to raise any young."[1]
...
"Still another way [of hunting Bitcoin investors] was to simply set a nesting tree on fire, cooking thedoves investors or collecting them as they tried to escape."[1]
...
"Two farmers from the vicinity of Russelsville, distant more than a hundred miles, had driven upwards of three hundred hogs to be fattened on thepigeons Bitcoin investors which were to be slaughtered. Here and there, the people employed in plucking and salting what had already been procured, were seen sitting in the midst of large piles of these birds amateur financiers. The dung lay several inches deep, covering the whole extent of the roosting-place."[1]
1. Passenger Pigeon, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_Pigeon#Hunting
Consider the chilling parallels between this noble bird's tragic tale and the plight of the Bitcoin Investor.
"At a nesting site in Petoskey, Michigan in 1878, 50,000
...
"Still another way [of hunting Bitcoin investors] was to simply set a nesting tree on fire, cooking the
...
"Two farmers from the vicinity of Russelsville, distant more than a hundred miles, had driven upwards of three hundred hogs to be fattened on the
1. Passenger Pigeon, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_Pigeon#Hunting
December 15, 2014, 09:59:25 AM
...was mabsark invested in any of the securities that were behind any of the scams that were called out?
Of course! Several. Why do you think he left me negative feedback?
December 15, 2014, 09:52:35 AM
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meanwhile...
It's actually like this: The issue here is that you feel people are unable to make up their own minds. This is your own flaw, not Mabsark's. I have had a few discussions with Mabsark regarding a couple of issues and not once have I felt that he has tried to sway me one way or another.
There is a huge difference between discussing your opinion, and forcing your opinion on others. Where I have found Mabsark to be the former, you are the latter.
You sir are merely a troll who feeds on other's indecision.
meanwhile...
It's actually like this: The issue here is that you feel people are unable to make up their own minds. This is your own flaw, not Mabsark's. I have had a few discussions with Mabsark regarding a couple of issues and not once have I felt that he has tried to sway me one way or another.
There is a huge difference between discussing your opinion, and forcing your opinion on others. Where I have found Mabsark to be the former, you are the latter.
You sir are merely a troll who feeds on other's indecision.
Unless you feel I can crawl through the intertubes, I have not forced my opinion on anyone. How can posting on a forum force anyone to do anything?
December 15, 2014, 09:50:51 AM
Gonna side with notlambshop on this one. First, lets wiki the term troll:
In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[4]
By that definition, one might consider his colorful language trollish, but he's a troll you better listen to when the "normal on-topic discussion" is a circle jerk over some (usually soon to be worthless) security. I dont think that warrants negative trust.
In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[4]
By that definition, one might consider his colorful language trollish, but he's a troll you better listen to when the "normal on-topic discussion" is a circle jerk over some (usually soon to be worthless) security. I dont think that warrants negative trust.
December 15, 2014, 09:49:23 AM
...was mabsark invested in any of the securities that were behind any of the scams that were called out?
Of course! Several. Why do you think he left me negative feedback?
December 15, 2014, 09:47:53 AM
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he left me this feedback:
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^ true though. :D
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In the securities section, I have had 100% accuracy rate. Even my opinions, once considered the fringes of pessimism, are now mainstream. The negative feedback I received was my reward :-\
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happy christmas.
IMHO, from what i've seen of your trolling... you have caused a lot of damage to some very legitimate securities; and your reward is, just.
tip: orchestrating hate campaigns does in no way make you a prophet.
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Please name the "legitimate securities."
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there have been a few threads i've seen you trolling in, feel free to go back over your own posts to enlighten yourself, i'm not your secretary.
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You accuse me of starting "hate campaigns" against "legitimate securities." Asked to validate your accusation, you demur with "I'm not your secretary."
Typical :-\
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yup, i'm just your typical btc enthusiast, nothing special here. IMHO Mabsark called it rightly.
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So yeah, I guess that makes you a typical BTC enthusiast.
It's actually like this: The issue here is that you feel people are unable to make up their own minds. This is your own flaw, not Mabsark's. I have had a few discussions with Mabsark regarding a couple of issues and not once have I felt that he has tried to sway me one way or another.
There is a huge difference between discussing your opinion, and forcing your opinion on others. Where I have found Mabsark to be the former, you are the latter.
You sir are merely a troll who feeds on other's indecision.
December 15, 2014, 09:46:23 AM
In the securities section, I have had 100% accuracy rate. Even my opinions, once considered the fringes of pessimism, are now mainstream. The negative feedback I received was my reward
happy christmas.
IMHO, from what i've seen of your trolling... you have caused a lot of damage to some very legitimate securities; and your reward is, just.
tip: orchestrating hate campaigns does in no way make you a prophet.
Please name the "legitimate securities."
there have been a few threads i've seen you trolling in, feel free to go back over your own posts to enlighten yourself, i'm not your secretary.
You accuse me of starting "hate campaigns" against "legitimate securities." Asked to validate your accusation, you demur with "I'm not your secretary."
Typical
yup, i'm just your typical btc enthusiast, nothing special here. IMHO Mabsark called it rightly.
December 15, 2014, 09:40:36 AM
In the securities section, I have had 100% accuracy rate. Even my opinions, once considered the fringes of pessimism, are now mainstream. The negative feedback I received was my reward
happy christmas.
IMHO, from what i've seen of your trolling... you have caused a lot of damage to some very legitimate securities; and your reward is, just.
tip: orchestrating hate campaigns does in no way make you a prophet.
Please name the "legitimate securities."
there have been a few threads i've seen you trolling in, feel free to go back over your own posts to enlighten yourself, i'm not your secretary.
You accuse me of starting "hate campaigns" against "legitimate securities." Asked to validate your accusation, you demur with "I'm not your secretary."
Typical
yup, i'm just your typical btc enthusiast, nothing special here. IMHO Mabsark called it rightly.
It's like this: If you listened to the people who left me negative feedback, you are now poorer than you would have been, had you listened to me.
So yeah, I guess that makes you a typical BTC enthusiast.
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