Topic: Require a small amount of merit to become a Junior Member - page 5. (Read 1829 times)

If I am correct I hope some one have discuss about it. Any it's better to discuse new topic so admin will able see easily.
Yes there should be require minimum merit to become Jr. Members. Because once people become Jr member's he join signeture campaign and start spamming. There is one more option, should be disable signeture for newbie & Jr. Member or there should be require minimum merit to become Jr. Member. I strongly believe that if implement this than spaming will reduce 80%.
Theymos should consider it asap. Condition is very bad now.

That's why you need to introduce posting restrictions, or to ban bounties.

Yep, I've already proposed to need 5 merits to become Jr Member, for it will ease the number of shitposter or bots joining bounties and spamming all over the forum.


Yeh, we talked about something similar weeks ago, in my case the proposal was about a newbie jail in where they need some number of merits to become junior and leave the jail. Since Theymos doesn't seem to like the idea (probably because the last time it was a total failure), maybe the jail is not necessary.
Even if the jail is too much, by asking for some merits to become junior probably it will be easy to get rid of many shitposters, at least on the bounties. The issue also is that many bounties are accepting newbies, even brand new users, in their campaigns. So, in addition to the merit implementation for newbies to become junior, I would suggest that the bounties maybe should stop accepting brand new and newbies.
5 merits is a bit of effort, and if you are a "normal" user (considering normal as someone interested in grow-up in here, or at least, interest on the crypto world), you should be able to have them in less than a month. Of course, newbies in a need of merits will create a whole new specimen., the "forever newbie", in substitution of the actuals "forever juniors". So, as far as newbies can join airdrops and bounties, it doesn't have any sense, it is only going to change the name of the specimens.

I don't think a single merit requirement is of any significance, it's too easy to feed into an alt and bot network. I've mad a number of suggestions in the past, and some of them are.

- Newby thread starting restricted to an intro and an account recovery board. Newbies and juniors restricted to beginners and associated boards.
- Merits associated with posts deleted by a mod, or by  the poster should be removed.
- No merits for trading, bounty, ICO or similar posts.

I think there were a load more, but that will do for the moment.

Just to get some perspective on current numbers, both of current Jr. Members and Newbies (Jr. Members to be), the merit they have been awarded is:

Number of Jr. Members with sMerit awarded: 4.256
Number of Newbies with sMerit awarded: 1.688

So with the current available data, the above would be the potential Jr. Base. Drastic reduction as it may be, requiring 1 sMerit for a Jr. Member is not that difficult to obtain by legit methods conceptually, but not that many do yet. If would also have a side-effect on the black-market and merit abuse/merit begging areas, boosting their activity.

The resulting Jr. Member base would really be minute though. If we take a look at the data provided by @mazdafunsun (see Truth about bitcointalk users 2.0 + Bitcointalk user analysis), the Newbie base is of over 400k users, and the Jr Member base of 78k users. That is taking into account the first 2M users (there are nearly 2,26M users currently), but not distinguishing between active and inactive users. The merited proportion is minute in comparison, so it would be virtually redefining value and volume of the Jr. Member level and swamping the newbie rank.

Perhaps it would be easier to ask for a change in nuking capabilities and extend it to Jr. Members too.

It has been discussed earlier one or two times*, but since the situation has changed the last few months, it OK to open the subject once again.

*reference >
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-requirement-for-jrmember-3307636

Most of the spammers and bots has advanced to Jr. members. Bots are still spamming with meaningless posts all the time. Thanks to LoyceV and the Mods, we have reported just yesterday more than 50 accounts related to the РrіmeCorеICO spam case.

Cases like this pop-up every week.

Not sure if anyone has requested this or not before, but I think we should consider adding a small merit requirement to become a Junior Member. Even if it was just a one merit requirement I think it would help a lot, because far too many spammers and spambots are getting the rank and once they hit that they can't be nuked. We're getting hit by a lot of these 'haiku' bots as people keep calling them (though I think they're more like doge bots: riveting business, spotless design, much wow):












Those are all Junior Members and their posts all follow the same format. There's also hundreds of them. They should be nuked as deleting their posts one by one is incredibly time consuming. Alternatively, allowing Globals or something to nuke Juniors would also help.