Topic: Riots after Death of Man in Minneapolis Police Custody - page 7. (Read 4451 times)

I don't understand why people are so jealous of looters when they  put in all of the hard work to get that stuff.  They organized looting events, busted windows, cleared inventory, and took it to a secure storage location all while evading the police.   Anyone could have done that but they are the ones who took the initiative and their hard work paid off. 

Some body cam footage was leaked recently of the George Floyd incident which shows the full context prior to being placed on the ground - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPSwqp5fdIw

Shows clear erratic behavior by Floyd from the start. I imagine this footage is telling as to why AG Keith Ellison elected not to release the full body cam video.

Edit - Full bodycam video officially released: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkEGGLu_fNU

Yeah, I have no idea how you can read the transcript and watch the footage and conclude that Flloyd was trying to hurt himself and the cop kneeled on his neck for 10 minutes to protect him.  I haven't found anything about bashing his own head intentionally though, it's possible I'm missing something I guess.

He was having a panic attack (it's common to feel like you can't breathe when this happens), he was terrified of the cops, he made it clear he had no intention of hurting them, he asked to lay on the ground and he begged them over and over to not hurt him and then to stop hurting him.

I believe strongly that the crimes against black are as a result of fear of being dominated and a hard stigma and inferiority problems.
Untill we see ourselves as one, black and white, this problem can not be resolved. Imagine how you guys look so good when dressed in white and black fabrics. Such is the beauty nature designed for us and we made out of it a discriminating factor.
Say no to racism

^^^ Because people love the movies, and it is exciting getting one that really affects our lives.

 

I can certainly see a Democratic mayor taking marching orders from a Democratic congresswoman whose district is basically that mayor's city. And can see her calling in to help her fellow Marxists at BLM.

Bingo, riots in larger Democratic controlled cities.

What, Facts Lives Matter?

How many ways do you spell "ORCHESTRATED?"

We had Airport Security Theater, then COVID_Theater, now Riot_Theater.

I think it has been intentional. The number of people that were arrested while rioting being let off basically without consequence solidifies this argument.

As mentioned above, Floyd first started saying that he could not breathe before he was on the ground. The transcript posted above also reflects that the officers responded to Floyd's claim that he cannot breathe, saying that Floyd was talking (implying they thought he was breathing while talking).

Also, as mentioned above, pinning Floyd to the ground, including his head was not a means to protect the officers from Floyd, it was a means to protect Floyd from himself. Keep in mind that Floyd had apparently just intentionally slammed his head against the glass in the police car, intentionally harming himself.

Pinning his head to the ground can be rationally defended, it's what he did afterwards that is the problem.  For almost 7 minutes of Flloyd begging for his life followed by 3 minutes while he appeared unconscious or dead he kept his knee on his neck.

If they were alone together and struggling for a weapon a few feet away (like in the movies) or something, that would be different...but he knew Flloyd wasn't armed and he had his partner helping him with Flloyd while 2 more cops watched their back.


Whoever is telling you this is lying.  It's been mentioned plenty of times all over the place.  

Good points. For me, anytime it's a toss up between stupidity and intentional, I'll err on the side of stupidity, though.

But here, it certainly is odd that no news media has mentioned that the George Floyd events occurred in the Congressional district of the very anti-American Rep. Ilhan Omar.

When I watched the video several weeks ago, I saw someone (Floyd) basically begging for his life, while a police officer (Chevron) has his knee on Floyd's neck, eventually killing Floyd (even though I had no knowledge of the possibility of choking someone via pressure on the *back* of a person's neck).

The fact that Floyd was saying that he couldn't breathe before he was on the ground, the fact that Floyd has > the amount of fentanyl in his blood that is considered an "overdose", the fact that Floyd intentionally hit his head on the glass in the police car, all change my view on the above.

Pinning Floyd's head to the ground (via pressure on his neck) may seem excessive, Floyd also just intentionally hit his head on glass, presumably with the intention of hurting himself and to avoid going directly to jail, and he may have intentionally smashed his head against the concrete if his head was not pinned down.

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There was a police-involved shooting of an armed black man in late September 2016, just before the election, and riots started not long after. At the time, there was a lot of misinformation being spread by BLM, and the victim's family, saying that the victim was unarmed, and was holding a bible (both are lies). The governor quickly sent in the national guard and stopped the riots before the weekend (they started on a Tuesday), which removed any legitimacy to any riots that may have been organized elsewhere in the country, as happened in 2020.

The similarities between what happened in 2016 and what is happening now are striking. In both cases, riots started immediately after the victim had died, before there was any kind of investigation, let alone any kind of trial to hold those responsible accountable. In both cases, there was a lot of BLM propaganda being spread on social media that was outright lies, and misleading when not an outright lie.

The key difference is the national guard was not called into Minnesota, but rather, a police station was abandoned, which made the situation worse. My guess is this was intentional.

Minnesota.  I meant Minnesota statutes not Minneapolis statutes - my mistake.

What state is Minneapolis in TwattySqueal?

That is why it was the incorrect charge and the charge was upgraded.

Confused why you're citing Minnesota statutes. Yes.  Most likely you was the first thing that looked good on google so you just copy pasted without reading.  I could be wrong though.

No, it isn't. I would say you are confused, but you aren't ever wrong are you?

Seattle is not in Minnesota.

"609.195 MURDER IN THE THIRD DEGREE.(a) Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years."

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.195

Clearly this instance doesn't even meet the standards of 3rd degree murder under Minnesota statutes.

'Murder' means different things in different jurisdictions. The word just refers to someone dying as a result of something that you did.

In Georgia, for example, if you're the getaway driver during a bank robbery and while you're sitting in the car waiting one of your guys kills someone, you could be charged and convicted of felony murder.

Last I heard accidentally killing someone was not murder.

I read that Floyd was a criminal and had served time for various crimes, but was almost always released early. A lot of people think he cooperated with the police so his time was shorter than expected. Also, some people think that this murder is a lie.