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legendary
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I saw his juvenile loaded question.  I knew what he was hoping to hear.
 I didn't bite, and gave him a non-answer answer, and as expected from real racists like him, he believed the non-answer answer was racist, and accused me of white supremacy... literally assuming my skin color based on words written.

His parents must be so proud, he's able to microwave his own pizza rolls now.  
Lol, he was just jumping at his puppet master's heels waiting to pop that accusation of "WHITE SUPREMICIST!" out. Yes, it's pretty obvious but these guys don't see it because they're too busy CRUSADING.

My friends in communist block countries just shake their heads and chuckle at how absolutely stupid idiotic, idealistic American "Socialists" are concerning how things actually work.


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@cryptocommies
It does seem like you, having been completely unable to present any kind of logical argument to counter facts

We agree on the facts.  I've said this many times, I'm not sure why you keep saying that.  I'm not countering any facts.

It's the WHY the facts are what they are that we're discussing.

I'm also honestly interested in your opinion.

When do you think black people were no longer affected by systemic racism?  Surely it had to be a gradual process right?

Here's the time line:
400 years ago the first slaves were brought over from Africa to Virginia
156 years ago they were no longer considered personal property that could be owned by White Men.
56 years ago the civil rights act was passed.

At what point did systemic racism completely phase out of America?

It's not COMPLETELY phased out, Asian Americans are still facing blatant discrimination in college admissions. They have to have much better test scores than other racial groups such as Blacks to get into the better colleges. This is well known and is accepted method to liberals. Why?

Of course, "systemic racism" as you use it is largely imaginary. But the admissions policies are hard facts, and they actually do incorporate racism against Asians.

Dispelled
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I saw his juvenile loaded question.  I knew what he was hoping to hear.
 I didn't bite, and gave him a non-answer answer, and as expected from real racists like him, he believed the non-answer answer was racist, and accused me of white supremacy... literally assuming my skin color based on words written.

His parents must be so proud, he's able to microwave his own pizza rolls now.  

legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1386
It does seem like you, having been completely unable to present any kind of logical argument to counter facts

We agree on the facts.  I've said this many times, I'm not sure why you keep saying that.  I'm not countering any facts.

It's the WHY the facts are what they are that we're discussing.

I'm also honestly interested in your opinion.

When do you think black people were no longer affected by systemic racism?  Surely it had to be a gradual process right?

Here's the time line:
400 years ago the first slaves were brought over from Africa to Virginia
156 years ago they were no longer considered personal property that could be owned by White Men.
56 years ago the civil rights act was passed.

At what point did systemic racism completely phase out of America?

It's not COMPLETELY phased out, Asian Americans are still facing blatant discrimination in college admissions. They have to have much better test scores than other racial groups such as Blacks to get into the better colleges. This is well known and is accepted method to liberals. Why?

Of course, "systemic racism" as you use it is largely imaginary. But the admissions policies are hard facts, and they actually do incorporate racism against Asians.
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Yep.  There it is.  Popojeff is a white supremacist.  He had to preface it with about 3 paragraphs of fluff before backing into it, but it came right out.  Of course, he wrote the post in a way where he can back out of it, because he's a closet white supremacist.  

And BINGO, there it is. First the logical fallacy of the loaded questions - both you and Twitch, and now your attempt to entrap people that responded to your shit.

It does seem like popojeff thinks the reason for all the racial disparities is simply because black people are just naturally inferior compared to White people.  I've asked directly several times now: if the reason isn't systemic racism, than what is it?  Nobody seems to be able to come up with a rational explanation and instead resort to personal attacks and trolling.


I gave you a reasonable information, and said my "answer" is that there is no ONE answer
Here's the refresher if you've already convoluted the words in your brain.

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I cant say I have the one answer to your question, and I doubt there is one answer.  There are so many exceptions to the rule, that it's really not a rule anymore.
   There are successful people of EVERY race and gender in every level of the economy and government. We're Sooooooo racist in the US that we had a black President. And we see failures from every race too.

I've seen scientific studies indicating darker pigmented mammals have higher levels of testosterone. Higher levels of testosterone decrease intelligence and increase propensity for violence. I've seen studies of increased breakdown of the family structure being a clue. Absentee fathers. Etc...

There are so any generalizations with shaky evidence, that I doubt most of the theories.

In my opinion, there's no ONE answer, but I put a lot of weight on individual responsibility and the lack of it in the poorer black neighborhoods. When the elitist liberals, entire Democratic Party, and the left-owned media tell you day after day that your life is someone else's fault, the government will pay/feed/save you, you are owed something for doing nothing, and white people hate you......  why the heck should you think any differently and take responsibility for your own life?  

You just dismiss it as racism.

We know systemic racism isn't the answer either. That's been proven an incorrect theory created for political influence.  

So if it's not systemic racism, and you think my input is racist. Then what's your theory ?
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It does seem like you, having been completely unable to present any kind of logical argument to counter facts

We agree on the facts.  I've said this many times, I'm not sure why you keep saying that.  I'm not countering any facts.

It's the WHY the facts are what they are that we're discussing.

I'm also honestly interested in your opinion.

When do you think black people were no longer affected by systemic racism?  Surely it had to be a gradual process right?

Here's the time line:
400 years ago the first slaves were brought over from Africa to Virginia
156 years ago they were no longer considered personal property that could be owned by White Men.
56 years ago the civil rights act was passed.

At what point did systemic racism completely phase out of America?
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1386
....
Yep.  There it is.  Popojeff is a white supremacist.  He had to preface it with about 3 paragraphs of fluff before backing into it, but it came right out.  Of course, he wrote the post in a way where he can back out of it, because he's a closet white supremacist.  

And BINGO, there it is. First the logical fallacy of the loaded questions - both you and Twitch, and now your attempt to entrap people that responded to your shit.

It does seem like popojeff thinks the reason for all the racial disparities is simply because black people are just naturally inferior compared to White people.  I've asked directly several times now: if the reason isn't systemic racism, than what is it?  Nobody seems to be able to come up with a rational explanation and instead resort to personal attacks and trolling.

Let's be honest here. You've crafted loaded questions before, ones that lead answers in directions that you sought. I've pointed this out. This is a real insult to those of us out here who work and live in multi cultural situations, and who are in inter racial marriages. You've politicized issues, and it's all quite obvious. What Popojeff did wrong was taking you seriously. The bigoted, racist, prejudiced person that I'm seeing here is you, but that's a separate issue. Coinsforcommies is just a liar pushing dialectic, but I think you could do better.
legendary
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Here's a painting of Patriots tearing down a statue of King George in 1776.


[img ]https://i.gyazo.com/70de29950b81495535e1b0a4aeb8d30c.png[/img]

Tearing down monuments is a part of history.

Yeah after a war of independence. That wasn't history for them, that was their modern day. War for independence from him, mentally ill unwashed comtards pushing Marxism, same thing right?


It does seem like popojeff thinks the reason for all the racial disparities is simply because black people are just naturally inferior compared to White people.  I've asked directly several times now: if the reason isn't systemic racism, than what is it?  Nobody seems to be able to come up with a rational explanation and instead resort to personal attacks and trolling.

It does seem like you, having been completely unable to present any kind of logical argument to counter facts, are again forced to resort to accusing anyone who denies your social justice religious cult of racism and white supremacy. You are mentally ill, full of shit, or both.
legendary
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Yep.  There it is.  Popojeff is a white supremacist.  He had to preface it with about 3 paragraphs of fluff before backing into it, but it came right out.  Of course, he wrote the post in a way where he can back out of it, because he's a closet white supremacist.  

And BINGO, there it is. First the logical fallacy of the loaded questions - both you and Twitch, and now your attempt to entrap people that responded to your shit.

It does seem like popojeff thinks the reason for all the racial disparities is simply because black people are just naturally inferior compared to White people.  I've asked directly several times now: if the reason isn't systemic racism, than what is it?  Nobody seems to be able to come up with a rational explanation and instead resort to personal attacks and trolling.
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 1386
....
Yep.  There it is.  Popojeff is a white supremacist.  He had to preface it with about 3 paragraphs of fluff before backing into it, but it came right out.  Of course, he wrote the post in a way where he can back out of it, because he's a closet white supremacist.  

And BINGO, there it is. First the logical fallacy of the loaded questions - both you and Twitch, and now your attempt to entrap people that responded to your shit.
legendary
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Here's a painting of Patriots tearing down a statue of King George in 1776.




Tearing down monuments is a part of history.
legendary
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First Exclusion Ever
The statues are coming down regardless of how many people agree with us  Grin

Yes, destroying art, erasing history, preventing people from speaking, keeping books from being published, rioting, looting, mob violence, where have we seen all of this before? One day you little kids LAARPING game is going to turn very real, and all you will be doing is crying for your mommy and wishing you could take it all back, but it will be too late for you.

Peaceful men are peaceful until you push them too far, then God help you because the torment that will be unleashed upon you will make you WISH you were dead. Remember me when this comes to pass Comtard. Remember how the person you considered to be a rival was actually the one trying to warn you about your own destruction.
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The statues are coming down regardless of how many people agree with us  Grin
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[Racial disparities are a social construct and if you disagree with me you are literally Hitler.]

Which is more racist? Addressing the real causes of these issues so they can be addressed, or obfuscating these truths in order to use minority groups as pets, human shields, and puppets for your cancerous Postmodernist Marxist ideological goals?
But here are the goals of BLM from their website which also overlap with many of the causes of the disparities and just so happen to align with my goals.  Are you saying that the issues on this list do not address the causes of the statistical disparities?

Racial Injustice
Police Brutality
Criminal Justice Reform

Black Immigration
Economic Injustice
LGBTQIA+ and Human Rights
Environmental Conditions
Voting Rights & Suppression
Healthcare
Government Corruption
Education
Commonsense Gun Laws

You have to admit getting the bold items done is at least start, right?

I am saying you and everyone like you are mentally ill and completely full of shit. I don't care what you tell me your goals are, I see the results of your actions and they acheive the exact opposite.

AGREE WITH US OR ELSE !!!.    We'll burn down your cities, assault your cops, and tear down your statues unless you agree with us.

The most violent people aren't the blacks... they're the liberals of all colors
legendary
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First Exclusion Ever
[Racial disparities are a social construct and if you disagree with me you are literally Hitler.]

Which is more racist? Addressing the real causes of these issues so they can be addressed, or obfuscating these truths in order to use minority groups as pets, human shields, and puppets for your cancerous Postmodernist Marxist ideological goals?
But here are the goals of BLM from their website which also overlap with many of the causes of the disparities and just so happen to align with my goals.  Are you saying that the issues on this list do not address the causes of the statistical disparities?

Racial Injustice
Police Brutality
Criminal Justice Reform

Black Immigration
Economic Injustice
LGBTQIA+ and Human Rights
Environmental Conditions
Voting Rights & Suppression
Healthcare
Government Corruption
Education
Commonsense Gun Laws

You have to admit getting the bold items done is at least start, right?

I am saying you and everyone like you are mentally ill and completely full of shit. I don't care what you tell me your goals are, I see the results of your actions and they acheive the exact opposite.
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[Racial disparities are a social construct and if you disagree with me you are literally Hitler.]

Which is more racist? Addressing the real causes of these issues so they can be addressed, or obfuscating these truths in order to use minority groups as pets, human shields, and puppets for your cancerous Postmodernist Marxist ideological goals?
But here are the goals of BLM from their website which also overlap with many of the causes of the disparities and just so happen to align with my goals.  Are you saying that the issues on this list do not address the causes of the statistical disparities?

Racial Injustice
Police Brutality
Criminal Justice Reform

Black Immigration
Economic Injustice
LGBTQIA+ and Human Rights
Environmental Conditions
Voting Rights & Suppression
Healthcare
Government Corruption
Education
Commonsense Gun Laws

You have to admit getting the bold items done is at least start, right?
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[Racial disparities are a social construct and if you disagree with me you are literally Hitler.]

Which is more racist? Addressing the real causes of these issues so they can be addressed, or obfuscating these truths in order to use minority groups as pets, human shields, and puppets for your cancerous Postmodernist Marxist ideological goals?

Look TECSHARE, racial disparities:

Lets look at some facts:

Blacks or African Americans account for 12.6% of the US population.

https://archive.vn/20200213004951/https://factfinder.census.gov/bkmk/table/1.0/en/ACS/15_5YR/DP05/0100000US


"According to the US Department of Justice, African Americans accounted for 52.5% of all homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States#Homicide

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf



93% of African American murder victims are killed by other African Americans.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf


"While young black males have accounted for about 1% of the population from 1980 to 2008, they have made up an increasing proportion of homicide victims, going from 9% of all homicide victims in 1980 to 18% in 1994...
By 2008, young black males made up about a quarter of all homicide offenders (27%)"


https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf



"...errors in police deadly force decision making (cases in which police shoot unarmed, non-attacking citizens) occur at a rate of about one in a million."

https://www.forcescience.org/2019/08/researchers-find-no-racial-disparity-in-police-deadly-forceand-thats-just-the-beginning/



"...between 90 and 95 percent of civilians shot were attacking police or others. "


https://www.forcescience.org/2019/08/researchers-find-no-racial-disparity-in-police-deadly-forceand-thats-just-the-beginning/



"Researchers also found that 90 percent of civilians shot by the police in 2015 were “armed.”  Notably, the definition of “armed” did not include civilians attempting to take an officer’s gun."


https://www.forcescience.org/2019/08/researchers-find-no-racial-disparity-in-police-deadly-forceand-thats-just-the-beginning/



"The factor that correlated most strongly to the race of the person fatally shot was the violent crime rate of their racial group."


https://www.forcescience.org/2019/08/researchers-find-no-racial-disparity-in-police-deadly-forceand-thats-just-the-beginning/


What do you think the cause is of these racial disparities?  Everyone claiming systemic racism doesn't exist so far has been unable to provide any sort of opinion on this, other than what's not causing it.
legendary
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[Racial disparities are a social construct and if you disagree with me you are literally Hitler.]

Which is more racist? Addressing the real causes of these issues so they can be addressed, or obfuscating these truths in order to use minority groups as pets, human shields, and puppets for your cancerous Postmodernist Marxist ideological goals?
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I've agreed with all of the facts you posted and have known about them for a long time.  We only differ on why we think those stats are the way they are.  I attribute the current state of things to history.  

Where did I assume your skin color?  Everyone over a certain age in most of this country was indoctrinated into a white supremacist world view from a young age.  Candace Owens is a notable black white supremacist.  The thing about ignorance is that it doesn't need to make sense.

Having a white supremacist world view doesn't mean that your intentions are bad, it just means that you honestly believe the disparities in the statistics exist because people with a darker skin tones have, as a whole, made choices that are inferior to the choices made by people with white skin.  

The alternative to the white supremacist world view is to acknowledge the disparities exist due to the historical fact that black people have been systematically oppressed by the legal, financial, health, housing, labor, education, and criminal justice systems throughout the course of this nation's history and that the residual effects of that historical oppression still linger, and are still being furthered today.  

Overcoming systemic oppression is not about being "stupid" or "smart" because even if we were living in a capitalist system completely absent of racism, family wealth would be the number one factor that determines your future and the racial wealth gap is ever increasing.

And yes, I do believe children are "too stupid" to overcome the effects of generational poverty and give themselves a level playing field in the first 10 years which are the most important developmental years.  

Obama is black and successful but he wasn't the best example because he had the advantage of being raised by people with white privilege.  With that said, there are definitely extremely gifted individuals who came out of nothing with much less than Obama and I want to reiterate the point that outliers do not dispel trends.   If a failure is an outlier, it is an individual problem but if failure is a statistical trend, it is a societal problem.

Absolutely ludicrous to call a black person with a conservative ideology a "white supremacict."

Absolutely irresponsible.

This is where liberals have convinced you to associate conservative/liberal with white/black.
This is where they have failed you.
And you still cant see the hypocrisy
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I've agreed with all of the facts you posted and have known about them for a long time.  We only differ on why we think those stats are the way they are.  I attribute the current state of things to history.  

Where did I assume your skin color?  Everyone over a certain age in most of this country was indoctrinated into a white supremacist world view from a young age.  Candace Owens is a notable black white supremacist.  The thing about ignorance is that it doesn't need to make sense.

Having a white supremacist world view doesn't mean that your intentions are bad, it just means that you honestly believe the disparities in the statistics exist because people with a darker skin tones have, as a whole, made choices that are inferior to the choices made by people with white skin.  

The alternative to the white supremacist world view is to acknowledge the disparities exist due to the historical fact that black people have been systematically oppressed by the legal, financial, health, housing, labor, education, and criminal justice systems throughout the course of this nation's history and that the residual effects of that historical oppression still linger, and are still being furthered today.  

Overcoming systemic oppression is not about being "stupid" or "smart" because even if we were living in a capitalist system completely absent of racism, family wealth would be the number one factor that determines your future and the racial wealth gap is ever increasing.

And yes, I do believe children are "too stupid" to overcome the effects of generational poverty and give themselves a level playing field in the first 10 years which are the most important developmental years.  

Obama is black and successful but he wasn't the best example because he had the advantage of being raised by people with white privilege.  With that said, there are definitely extremely gifted individuals who came out of nothing with much less than Obama and I want to reiterate the point that outliers do not dispel trends.   If a failure is an outlier, it is an individual problem but if failure is a statistical trend, it is a societal problem.
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