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legendary
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Beyond Imagination
April 06, 2014, 07:12:10 PM
#93
Maybe because ripple is using the concept of IOU

IOU is a typical way to confuse people and let them fall for the scheme, banks are very good at it. A financially strong person don't need to borrow money, nor lending money, so the concept of IOU only attract those financially weak person. Only banks need IOU, since that will cover the fact that they print money for themselves or they lend customer funds to someone else

When you see the word IOU, you can sense that some scheme is going on here Wink
sr. member
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April 06, 2014, 06:12:26 PM
#92
 
What's the value of ripple? Why should I care about it?

What was your motivation on offering this loan https://bitcointa.lk/threads/would-consider-giving-micro-loans.292416/ ?
sr. member
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April 06, 2014, 06:07:37 PM
#91
I know how you feel but your post was unhelpful, NWO.   Bitcoiners are a natural ally to the Ripple ecosystem, though and we can't forget that.

Sure, but judging by some of the juvenile responses on this thread, I think many of the critics are just kids.

Then the better response is to treat them with respect, but sternly.  It's better to deal with a child as an adult than to stoop to childish memes in response.
legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
April 06, 2014, 03:34:27 PM
#90
Every time I read bitcoiners trying to understand Ripple ...
Sick of seeing these debates.

I know how you feel but your post was unhelpful, NWO.   Bitcoiners are a natural ally to the Ripple ecosystem, though and we can't forget that.

People get abused or treated poorly daily on bitcointalk for not understanding Bitcoin....
People get abused or treated poorly on the WoW forums or youtube for understanding/using Bitcoin.

This is bitcointalk.org, it is kinda expected that people are critical towards anything that might look like endangering BTC. Also, maybe I need to remind you that you were also kinda trolling against Ripple for some time.

Calling people who don't understand a concept stupid, dumb or dense does not help at all. Also generalizing from a vocal minority to "bitcoiners" is a bit far fetched. English is not my native language and probably also not the native language of a lot of people around here, so there can be just very simple misunderstandings too.

ripplescam is relatively well designed and written and I regularly have to fight down the urge to create a similar page, just with Bitcoin as an example of how FUD and twisted words from someone who is relatively well informed about a system really can look like. Then again I constantly try to remind myself that Ripple as well as Bitcoin a few years(!) ago both took some time for me to really "sink in" and that it took quite some time of reading and asking until I understood it better. Pointing out (or making up) flaws of Bitcoin will not make Ripple any better or trustworthy, it will just make Bitcoin look worse. My hope is that while there are usually a handful of trolls showing up who try to upset me from time to time there are people that are genuinely interested in understanding more about Ripple and how it benefits Bitcoin as well as the anonymous mass of "lurkers" who do not post in these threads but just read them and form their own opinion.
Also it helps my own understanding a bit better to be asked beginner questions or to debunk common myths (like the "it's not open source" or "it's centralized" stuff).

You commented on how someone didn't post your entire quote, yet you fail to include the section of mine which refutes your first sentence...

Bold is what annoys me. Underlined is what doesn't. I'm talking about trolls or general hatred towards Ripple.

When you constantly witness 'senior members' still not grasping Ripple (considering it is so simple) and still yapping on about it being closed source, premined etc it just gets annoying. I don't mind helping genuine newcomers to Ripple (I have activated well over 10+ accounts for new members, friends, family), it is the people who constantly whine like broken records or understand nothing about Ripple (and just post links to RippleScam etc) that annoy me.

It is true, I also didn't like Ripple and then I did my own research. I'm an example of someone who has both perspectives. But anyway, like I said. I'm going to keep calling people out for being retarded if they come into Ripple threads going "derp... derp.. closed source, centralized, scam.. derp derp" because that is just idiocy. As mentioned, I don't mind newcomers, general questions, language barriers etc.

Edit: Do you need some perspective? Go take a look at the comments on that article I linked to earlier.

What's the value of ripple? Why should I care about it?
hero member
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April 06, 2014, 03:32:43 PM
#89
How are you comparing ripple to bitcoin? both are poles apart
hero member
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April 06, 2014, 03:19:13 PM
#88
[ANN] Cripple Payments
Cripple = Cryptographic ripple
Have you had your first cripple?  Cheesy

....sorry....probably not funny.


I laughed  Roll Eyes
member
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April 06, 2014, 02:35:43 PM
#87
Are you seriously? They have nothing to compare
donator
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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
April 06, 2014, 09:50:48 AM
#86
I've done a little more reading about Opencoin/Ripple Labs version of Rippled. I no longer see it as a threat to Bitcoin. It is a fundamentally different approach to payments than Bitcoin. I laud the tenacity of the marketroids selling the system (which requires buying XRP), but I will reserve final judgement on it until there is further development and forks to compare it to.
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Martijn Meijering
April 06, 2014, 08:38:20 AM
#85
I know how you feel but your post was unhelpful, NWO.   Bitcoiners are a natural ally to the Ripple ecosystem, though and we can't forget that.

Sure, but judging by some of the juvenile responses on this thread, I think many of the critics are just kids.
NWO
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April 06, 2014, 08:05:52 AM
#84
Every time I read bitcoiners trying to understand Ripple ...
Sick of seeing these debates.

I know how you feel but your post was unhelpful, NWO.   Bitcoiners are a natural ally to the Ripple ecosystem, though and we can't forget that.

People get abused or treated poorly daily on bitcointalk for not understanding Bitcoin....
People get abused or treated poorly on the WoW forums or youtube for understanding/using Bitcoin.

This is bitcointalk.org, it is kinda expected that people are critical towards anything that might look like endangering BTC. Also, maybe I need to remind you that you were also kinda trolling against Ripple for some time.

Calling people who don't understand a concept stupid, dumb or dense does not help at all. Also generalizing from a vocal minority to "bitcoiners" is a bit far fetched. English is not my native language and probably also not the native language of a lot of people around here, so there can be just very simple misunderstandings too.

ripplescam is relatively well designed and written and I regularly have to fight down the urge to create a similar page, just with Bitcoin as an example of how FUD and twisted words from someone who is relatively well informed about a system really can look like. Then again I constantly try to remind myself that Ripple as well as Bitcoin a few years(!) ago both took some time for me to really "sink in" and that it took quite some time of reading and asking until I understood it better. Pointing out (or making up) flaws of Bitcoin will not make Ripple any better or trustworthy, it will just make Bitcoin look worse. My hope is that while there are usually a handful of trolls showing up who try to upset me from time to time there are people that are genuinely interested in understanding more about Ripple and how it benefits Bitcoin as well as the anonymous mass of "lurkers" who do not post in these threads but just read them and form their own opinion.
Also it helps my own understanding a bit better to be asked beginner questions or to debunk common myths (like the "it's not open source" or "it's centralized" stuff).

You commented on how someone didn't post your entire quote, yet you fail to include the section of mine which refutes your first sentence...

Bold is what annoys me. Underlined is what doesn't. I'm talking about trolls or general hatred towards Ripple.

When you constantly witness 'senior members' still not grasping Ripple (considering it is so simple) and still yapping on about it being closed source, premined etc it just gets annoying. I don't mind helping genuine newcomers to Ripple (I have activated well over 10+ accounts for new members, friends, family), it is the people who constantly whine like broken records or understand nothing about Ripple (and just post links to RippleScam etc) that annoy me.

It is true, I also didn't like Ripple and then I did my own research. I'm an example of someone who has both perspectives. But anyway, like I said. I'm going to keep calling people out for being retarded if they come into Ripple threads going "derp... derp.. closed source, centralized, scam.. derp derp" because that is just idiocy. As mentioned, I don't mind newcomers, general questions, language barriers etc.

Edit: Do you need some perspective? Go take a look at the comments on that article I linked to earlier.
legendary
Activity: 2618
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April 06, 2014, 07:16:41 AM
#83
Every time I read bitcoiners trying to understand Ripple ...
Sick of seeing these debates.

I know how you feel but your post was unhelpful, NWO.   Bitcoiners are a natural ally to the Ripple ecosystem, though and we can't forget that.

People get abused or treated poorly daily on bitcointalk for not understanding Bitcoin....
People get abused or treated poorly on the WoW forums or youtube for understanding/using Bitcoin.

This is bitcointalk.org, it is kinda expected that people are critical towards anything that might look like endangering BTC. Also, maybe I need to remind you that you were also kinda trolling against Ripple for some time.

Calling people who don't understand a concept stupid, dumb or dense does not help at all. Also generalizing from a vocal minority to "bitcoiners" is a bit far fetched. English is not my native language and probably also not the native language of a lot of people around here, so there can be just very simple misunderstandings too.

ripplescam is relatively well designed and written and I regularly have to fight down the urge to create a similar page, just with Bitcoin as an example of how FUD and twisted words from someone who is relatively well informed about a system really can look like. Then again I constantly try to remind myself that Ripple as well as Bitcoin a few years(!) ago both took some time for me to really "sink in" and that it took quite some time of reading and asking until I understood it better. Pointing out (or making up) flaws of Bitcoin will not make Ripple any better or trustworthy, it will just make Bitcoin look worse. My hope is that while there are usually a handful of trolls showing up who try to upset me from time to time there are people that are genuinely interested in understanding more about Ripple and how it benefits Bitcoin as well as the anonymous mass of "lurkers" who do not post in these threads but just read them and form their own opinion.
Also it helps my own understanding a bit better to be asked beginner questions or to debunk common myths (like the "it's not open source" or "it's centralized" stuff).
NWO
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April 06, 2014, 05:44:31 AM
#82
Every time I read bitcoiners trying to understand Ripple ...
Sick of seeing these debates.

I know how you feel but your post was unhelpful, NWO.   Bitcoiners are a natural ally to the Ripple ecosystem, though and we can't forget that.

People get abused or treated poorly daily on bitcointalk for not understanding Bitcoin....

When you constantly witness 'senior members' still not grasping Ripple (considering it is so simple) and still yapping on about it being closed source, premined etc it just gets annoying. I don't mind helping genuine newcomers to Ripple (I have activated well over 10+ accounts for new members, friends, family), it is the people who constantly whine like broken records or understand nothing about Ripple (and just post links to RippleScam etc) that annoy me.

It is true, Ripple empowers Bitcoin and they work hand-in-hand. Let them find out after its too late. We have bigger fish to fry than this forum.
NWO
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April 06, 2014, 05:31:57 AM
#81
Every time I read bitcoiners trying to understand Ripple.



Why are you all so dumb!? Stick with your simple archaic system if that is all you can wrap your mind around.

Sick of seeing these debates.

Yes, insulting people is a great way to support your view?

Every time I read bitcoiners trying to understand Ripple..
Ripple is not suitable for mainstream users (BTC is not yet either)

  • BTC has over 20 to 50+ companies with VC$$$ all trying to make BTC ready for prime time.
  • How many companies are actively working to improve Ripple?
  • What are the chances Ripple will ever be ready for "the dumb people" to use?



Because I don't care if bitcoiners don't understand Ripple. The amount of threads that I have read with Sukrim clearly rebutting or informing bitcoiners about Ripple is ridiculous. The worst part is, those same people are still like...



From the top of my head there is peercover, ritazachari (jewelry), bitstamp, zip zap, ripplesingapore (gold/ silver) and with crosscoinventures I'm sure there are many more in the pipeline. Theoretically, anyone who accepts BTC accepts XRP due to the Bitcoin bridge (but you probably don't know what that is either). How many companies were involved with Bitcoin after a year? Oh that's right, it was still being premined/ instamined (there's some bitcoiner lingo which is actually relevant!) by Satoshi and his small group of followers.

I'm assuming this is what the OP is talking about http://www.coindesk.com/ripple-courts-developers-entrepreneurs-new-initiatives/
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April 06, 2014, 02:36:32 AM
#80
Every time I read bitcoiners trying to understand Ripple ...
Sick of seeing these debates.

I know how you feel but your post was unhelpful, NWO.   Bitcoiners are a natural ally to the Ripple ecosystem, though and we can't forget that.
sr. member
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April 06, 2014, 02:33:11 AM
#79
only purpose of ripple: make it easier to buy BTC without BTC-fiat exchanges hehehehe  Grin

Actually it has many uses, including the ability to bootstraps communities out of autarky.
legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
April 06, 2014, 02:14:16 AM
#78
only purpose of ripple: make it easier to buy BTC without BTC-fiat exchanges hehehehe  Grin

Explain how this works.  Honestly I'm pretty unmotivated to learn about ripple
since it's not a true cryptocurrency and I'm sure I ain't the only one.  If I ain't learning
About it on btc forum, I ain't learning about it lol
legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!
April 06, 2014, 01:53:43 AM
#77
Every time I read bitcoiners trying to understand Ripple.



Why are you all so dumb!? Stick with your simple archaic system if that is all you can wrap your mind around.

Sick of seeing these debates.

Yes, insulting people is a great way to support your view?

Every time I read bitcoiners trying to understand Ripple..
Ripple is not suitable for mainstream users (BTC is not yet either)

  • BTC has over 20 to 50+ companies with VC$$$ all trying to make BTC ready for prime time.
  • How many companies are actively working to improve Ripple?
  • What are the chances Ripple will ever be ready for "the dumb people" to use?

NWO
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April 06, 2014, 01:03:54 AM
#76
ripple is really frickin cool

haters gonna hate

Amen +1
NWO
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April 06, 2014, 01:01:35 AM
#75
Every time I read bitcoiners trying to understand Ripple.



Why are you all so dumb!? Stick with your simple archaic system if that is all you can wrap your mind around.

Sick of seeing these debates.
legendary
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Merit: 1001
April 06, 2014, 12:48:47 AM
#74
ripple is really frickin cool

haters gonna hate
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