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Mining since bitcoin was $1
June 12, 2014, 02:53:32 PM
Rocket Box is 450 Ghash at 480watt.  RX-Box is 2400 Ghash at 1.2w/ghash

The pictures are the same.  Is an RX-Box just 4 Rocket Boxes over clocked?  or are the boards bigger with more chips?
legendary
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June 12, 2014, 02:38:15 PM
Isn't it all a moot point seeing as you cannot buy now, nor in the future SP10's?

Not really. The future requires miners with better power efficiency. It seems that since last year there was always a shortage of "good" miners. Only overpriced or less efficient miners were always available to buy from stock. The SP10 was shipping from stock for ~2 weeks. Good miners are always hard to get your hands on. That's why people were paying 30K$ for a B1 Avalon or 20k$ for a Jupiter in hand. Better hurry to buy some September SP30 units until they go out of stock too.
legendary
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June 12, 2014, 02:05:46 PM
And just to clarify - we can purchase starting 6/25 on the website or through distributors like Canary?
hero member
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better everyday ♥
June 12, 2014, 01:57:05 PM
So the RX-BOX is 1200W total?

1.2W/G/S?

The Chinese version is 1440W total(2 * 600 GH/s modules).

The non Chinese version is 2880W total(4 * 600 GH/s modules).

Neither version come with power supplies.
newbie
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June 12, 2014, 01:48:41 PM
So the RX-BOX is 1200W total?

1.2W/G/S?
legendary
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June 12, 2014, 03:51:31 AM
And 13% extra efficiency is BEFORE PSU so in the end it's more than 13% extra efficiency.

SP10 is ~1w/gh at the wall.

rk-box is ~1.15w/gh at the wall.

Default for SP10 is 0.85W/GH and can go down to 0.7W/GH if needed. RK-BOX is 1.15W/GH and nobody knows if it can go down if needed or not. More likely not.
I don't see why not. since BE200 chip supports a range of frequencies.

Haven't seen any live demo of it so I will be reserved until I see proof.

Theres plenty of BE200 chip based miners out there, at a wide range of freq and efficiency.

No miner is under 1W/GH so the range isn't so wide for better efficiency.

Isn't it all a moot point seeing as you cannot buy now, nor in the future SP10's?
sr. member
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June 12, 2014, 12:08:11 AM
BFGMiner 4.2 released with ROCKMINER R-BOX support. Smiley

+1

same commands as cgminer?
No, BFGMiner has a standard interface for all drivers. So something like:
Code:
bfgminer -S rockminer:all --set rockminer:clock=290

Edit: Also note that if you were using cgminer, you had to use Zadig, which breaks the official drivers. You will need to undo this (and restore the original driver) before BFGMiner will work.

thanks!



How does one go about "undoing" the use of Zadig and restore the original drivers? Thanks!

It is under device manager. Find your miner and go to advance properties and then uninstall driver.


Or just install the NEW driver over the old one, I just did that with no issues. Although I do plan on running a registry cleaner soon.

I am now using MultiMiner with my R-Box units! So awesomeness!!!
legendary
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Value will be measured in sats
June 11, 2014, 11:50:55 PM
BFGMiner 4.2 released with ROCKMINER R-BOX support. Smiley

+1

same commands as cgminer?
No, BFGMiner has a standard interface for all drivers. So something like:
Code:
bfgminer -S rockminer:all --set rockminer:clock=290

Edit: Also note that if you were using cgminer, you had to use Zadig, which breaks the official drivers. You will need to undo this (and restore the original driver) before BFGMiner will work.

thanks!



How does one go about "undoing" the use of Zadig and restore the original drivers? Thanks!

It is under device manager. Find your miner and go to advance properties and then uninstall driver.
legendary
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ASIC Wannabe
June 11, 2014, 05:53:41 PM
No miner is under 1W/GH so the range isn't so wide for better efficiency.

Did you not see the new opensource miner from friedcat?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=641957.20

0.85w/gh excluding psu loss.

Also the chips are clocked at 8gh/s so there is a good chance this is not the max efficiency.

How can you use 0.85w/gh if you don't have a psu? How much is the loss for the PSU? 20%? That means it will be 1.02w/gh. And that's only friedcat claim. I'm waiting for real live proof because we can all claim a lot of stuff.

By this logic SP10 is just 0.58w/gh if we exclude all losses!

psu is about a 10-15% efficiency loss
legendary
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June 11, 2014, 05:42:10 PM
No miner is under 1W/GH so the range isn't so wide for better efficiency.

Did you not see the new opensource miner from friedcat?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=641957.20

0.85w/gh excluding psu loss.

Also the chips are clocked at 8gh/s so there is a good chance this is not the max efficiency.

How can you use 0.85w/gh if you don't have a psu? How much is the loss for the PSU? 20%? That means it will be 1.02w/gh. And that's only friedcat claim. I'm waiting for real live proof because we can all claim a lot of stuff.

By this logic SP10 is just 0.58w/gh if we exclude all losses!
hero member
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June 11, 2014, 05:20:07 PM
No miner is under 1W/GH so the range isn't so wide for better efficiency.

Did you not see the new opensource miner from friedcat?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=641957.20

0.85w/gh excluding psu loss.

Also the chips are clocked at 8gh/s so there is a good chance this is not the max efficiency.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
June 11, 2014, 05:14:24 PM
And 13% extra efficiency is BEFORE PSU so in the end it's more than 13% extra efficiency.

SP10 is ~1w/gh at the wall.

rk-box is ~1.15w/gh at the wall.

Default for SP10 is 0.85W/GH and can go down to 0.7W/GH if needed. RK-BOX is 1.15W/GH and nobody knows if it can go down if needed or not. More likely not.
I don't see why not. since BE200 chip supports a range of frequencies.

Haven't seen any live demo of it so I will be reserved until I see proof.

Theres plenty of BE200 chip based miners out there, at a wide range of freq and efficiency.

No miner is under 1W/GH so the range isn't so wide for better efficiency.
hero member
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June 11, 2014, 05:11:51 PM
And 13% extra efficiency is BEFORE PSU so in the end it's more than 13% extra efficiency.

SP10 is ~1w/gh at the wall.

rk-box is ~1.15w/gh at the wall.

Default for SP10 is 0.85W/GH and can go down to 0.7W/GH if needed. RK-BOX is 1.15W/GH and nobody knows if it can go down if needed or not. More likely not.
I don't see why not. since BE200 chip supports a range of frequencies.

Haven't seen any live demo of it so I will be reserved until I see proof.

Theres plenty of BE200 chip based miners out there, at a wide range of freq and efficiency.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
June 11, 2014, 05:00:59 PM
And 13% extra efficiency is BEFORE PSU so in the end it's more than 13% extra efficiency.

SP10 is ~1w/gh at the wall.

rk-box is ~1.15w/gh at the wall.

Default for SP10 is 0.85W/GH and can go down to 0.7W/GH if needed. RK-BOX is 1.15W/GH and nobody knows if it can go down if needed or not. More likely not.
I don't see why not. since BE200 chip supports a range of frequencies.

Haven't seen any live demo of it so I will be reserved until I see proof.
donator
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between a rock and a block!
June 11, 2014, 04:40:21 PM
And 13% extra efficiency is BEFORE PSU so in the end it's more than 13% extra efficiency.

SP10 is ~1w/gh at the wall.

rk-box is ~1.15w/gh at the wall.

Default for SP10 is 0.85W/GH and can go down to 0.7W/GH if needed. RK-BOX is 1.15W/GH and nobody knows if it can go down if needed or not. More likely not.
I don't see why not. since BE200 chip supports a range of frequencies.
hero member
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June 11, 2014, 04:40:18 PM
I'm waiting on the RE-BOX.  Can mine or be worn as a shoe. 

Either way, when these things get out of testing and into reseller hands, that would be great.  I would think you should be able to mine on a PC as well as a Pie. 
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
June 11, 2014, 04:32:13 PM
And 13% extra efficiency is BEFORE PSU so in the end it's more than 13% extra efficiency.

SP10 is ~1w/gh at the wall.

rk-box is ~1.15w/gh at the wall.

Default for SP10 is 0.85W/GH and can go down to 0.7W/GH if needed. RK-BOX is 1.15W/GH and nobody knows if it can go down if needed or not. More likely not.
hero member
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June 11, 2014, 04:19:47 PM
And 13% extra efficiency is BEFORE PSU so in the end it's more than 13% extra efficiency.

SP10 is ~1w/gh at the wall.

rk-box is ~1.15w/gh at the wall.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
June 11, 2014, 04:10:30 PM
More weight will mean higher shipping fees, but don't worry people don't care about dB, about weight, about power efficiency, about stack-ability, about having 100 cables in their miner, about anything and AM will sell their 60PH in just 2 months and we can all celebrate then a safer bitcoin network.

Good thing you won't need to order directly from the manufacturer so shipping won't be so expensive.

People don't care about 1-2 extra kg (we have flat rate shipping in 'merica), or having extra cables, or needing shelves to stack. (this is clearly for the home miner. Not for DC use.)

The average miner cares about $/gh and w/GH. And it looks like rockminer will deliver on both. (and before you claim ~13% extra efficiency justifies paying double the price, no it does not.)

But it's 7kg extra, not 1-2kg. And 13% extra efficiency is BEFORE PSU so in the end it's more than 13% extra efficiency.
sr. member
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June 11, 2014, 03:59:29 PM
If you ran cgminer, ensure /dev/ttyUSB0 actually exists - rebooting usually works.
Otherwise, please pastebin the output from:
Code:
bfgminer -S rockminer:all -d? -D
Curiouser and curiouser. It seems like it knows rockminer devices are there but doesn't detect them as as devices?

http://pastebin.com/E50PvhGw
Looks more like a power issue to me.


Not sure of this, they work with the custom cgminer and all the same hardware.
You'd know better than me though. I'll try one at a time.
Thank you very much for your help.
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