Topic: Roger Ver to be sued for defrauding bitcoin newbies. - page 15. (Read 3146 times)
Roger Ver deliberately changed the position of bitcoin to bitcoin cash and it was terrible because it could make new players misunderstand about the difference between bitcoin and bitcoin cash.
actually the core fanboys are desparetly trying to point fingres at mouthpiece ver(a theymos mirror-counterpart) as if bitcoin cash is relient on ver. much like sayng bitcoin core is relient on theymos. all to istract the truth that bitcoin cash exists due to bloq
read the 10 pages of this topic and see how many core fans attack jgarzic.. you wont find any. because core fanboys love jgarzic. and deep down they know that its all one big masqurade to point fingers at people that never coded a node, as the person to blame for everything. so that a team that code a node can centralise a network
read the 10 pages of this topic and see how many core fans attack jgarzic.. you wont find any. because core fanboys love jgarzic. and deep down they know that its all one big masqurade to point fingers at people that never coded a node, as the person to blame for everything. so that a team that code a node can centralise a network
There is no "Core", there is no "Bitcoin Core". Bitcoin "Core" is a name given to Bitcoin by Ver and Bitcoin Cash promoters, whales and enthusiasts who tried and failed to wrestle control of Bitcoin. They are more like the fanboys and mouthpieces you refer to.
There is simply "Bitcoin" and there are low level Bitcoin derivatives such as these:
Bitcoin Atom
Bitcoin Cash
Bitcoin Dark
Bitcoin Diamond
Bitcoin Fast
Bitcoin God
Bitcoin Gold
Bitcoin Green
Bitcoin Interest
Bitcoin Planet
Bitcoin Plus
Bitcoin Private
Bitcoin Scrypt
Bitcoin X
Bitcoin Z
Just to make it clear, Bitcoin is Bitcoin. Everything else is a fork or derivative of Bitcoin
Bitcoin Atom is not Bitcoin
Bitcoin Cash is not Bitcoin
Bitcoin Dark is not Bitcoin
Bitcoin Diamond is not Bitcoin
Bitcoin Fast is not Bitcoin
Bitcoin God is not Bitcoin
Bitcoin Gold is not Bitcoin
Bitcoin Green is not Bitcoin
Bitcoin Interest is not Bitcoin
Bitcoin Planet is not Bitcoin
Bitcoin Plus is not Bitcoin
Bitcoin Private is not Bitcoin
Bitcoin Scrypt is not Bitcoin
Bitcoin X is not Bitcoin
Bitcoin Z is not Bitcoin
Great post, so refrained and elegant yet you highlighted the issues with Bitcoin Cash and its inherent reliance on Ver (taking nothing away from Wu and Zhuoer in this process too)
actually the core fanboys are desparetly trying to point fingres at mouthpiece ver(a theymos mirror-counterpart) as if bitcoin cash is relient on ver. much like sayng bitcoin core is relient on theymos. all to istract the truth that bitcoin cash exists due to bloq
read the 10 pages of this topic and see how many core fans attack jgarzic.. you wont find any. because core fanboys love jgarzic. and deep down they know that its all one big masqurade to point fingers at people that never coded a node, as the person to blame for everything. so that a team that code a node can centralise a network
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just look at the mirror
adam back | craig wright (both scamming to say they invented "bitcoin")
adam back | craig wright (both scamming to say they invented "bitcoin")
Adam Back never claimed that he was Satoshi Nakamoto. Craig Wright did. That makes Craig Wright a scammer.
but adam back was saying he was part of bitcoins creation too.. yet he wrote no code in 2008-2009 to have created it.
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gmaxwell | Jgarzic (both saying they made the main nodes of the network)
Gregory Maxwell did not try to work with Jihan Wu, Barry Silbert and the NYA to hard fork to S2X. The "scaling debate" was a red herring. It was a political move to take over development and save Bitmain's covert AsicBoost capabilities in their miners.
so gmax didnt employ samson mow to UASF
oh and by the way.. ver and Wu didnt cause the bilateral split.. but hey i understand your too indocrinated by all the reddit propaganda
again BLOQ and BLOCKSTREAM (core team) instigated the bilateral split.
here is gmax literally begging the core opposition to bilateral split, but the opposition wanted a proper consensus. which greg hated as it lwould have left core stuck at 35% if the bilateral split did not occur.. hense why he insisted the only option was BLOQ as a silent partnr to force a bilateral split
What you are describing is what I and others call a bilaterial hardfork-- where both sides reject the other.
I tried to convince the authors of BIP101 to make their proposal bilateral by requiring the sign bit be set in the version in their blocks (existing nodes require it to be unset). Sadly, the proposals authors were aggressively against this.
I tried to convince the authors of BIP101 to make their proposal bilateral by requiring the sign bit be set in the version in their blocks (existing nodes require it to be unset). Sadly, the proposals authors were aggressively against this.
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theymos | ver (both saying they own and moderate the main information portals)
But Roger Ver's portal is confusing the public that BCH = BTC.actually roger ver is not claiming bch is btc
roger is claiming cash is "bitcoin"
what you said is like saying RV claims AUD is USD (makes no rational sense)
theymos is claiming core is the only "bitcoin".. check out bitcoin.org.
again the hypocrisy of arguing about team B applies to team A
but hey. instead of talking about "bitcoin" decentralisation you seem to only want to defend core team members
you need to learn both teams are paid by barry silbert. and it is just kardashian drama to get people to argue about if they love Kylie or khloe. pretending its all a fight of 2 surnames and which surname desrves the kardashian brand. all so that they can claim ownership and prevent the other 7billion people from using the brand because they want the name trademarked into the family...
dont you get it no one should own the name.. not team a or b.. but those funding both teams want the sheep fighting about both teams they own to make the community choose one team as the centralist. and thus the funders win either way.
BIG PICTURE THINKING REQUIRED. not core defense small minds
no one should own "bitcoin"
not ver.. not theymos
no one one team should say they are the only node software for the networks not bloq not core
no one scammer manager should pretend they were involved at day one making bitcoin. not C.wright not A.back
but hey.. seems youll defend core till its fiat2.0 and just let it centralise until its time for you to run back to fiat1.0 with your profits. as thats what most core fanboys only care about. making fiat profits. not caring one bit about bitcoins decentralisation
He's such a loser.
A loser from which its own coin solely thrives on his cartel's wealth input.
If that capital wasn't there, and the coin would be a what-an-investor-wants-to-pay-for-it coin, it would end up like BTG. I'm glad that Roger is doing this, because every silly action he comes up with, is yet again a sign that he has malicious intent, and isn't capable of running a decentralized incentive. BCash is RogerCash. In other words, investors know that what Roger wants to happen with his silly coin, that happens.
People quite often blame Bitcoin for being slow with everything and its endless debates, but they don't understand that these endless debates are a sign that one party can't entirely force its own will on Bitcoin. With BCash you operate at mercy of Roger's mood shifts, no one wants that.
Great post, so refrained and elegant yet you highlighted the issues with Bitcoin Cash and its inherent reliance on Ver (taking nothing away from Wu and Zhuoer in this process too)
He's such a loser.
A loser from which its own coin solely thrives on his cartel's wealth input.
If that capital wasn't there, and the coin would be a what-an-investor-wants-to-pay-for-it coin, it would end up like BTG. I'm glad that Roger is doing this, because every silly action he comes up with, is yet again a sign that he has malicious intent, and isn't capable of running a decentralized incentive. BCash is RogerCash. In other words, investors know that what Roger wants to happen with his silly coin, that happens.
People quite often blame Bitcoin for being slow with everything and its endless debates, but they don't understand that these endless debates are a sign that one party can't entirely force its own will on Bitcoin. With BCash you operate at mercy of Roger's mood shifts, no one wants that.
If he wont go to jail, he might become a billionaire reality TV star like Donald Trump or Mark Cuban. Millions of people who have no idea about technicalities will be charmed by the charisma of Roger Ver
Ver has "zero" charisma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCOjCEth6xI
He's such a loser.
Really hope they can hurt him in court.
If he wont go to jail, he might become a billionaire reality TV star like Donald Trump or Mark Cuban. Millions of people who have no idea about technicalities will be charmed by the charisma of Roger Ver
Ver has "zero" charisma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCOjCEth6xI
No one knows but at the same time, everyone decides. Everything will depend on us.
If he wont go to jail, he might become a billionaire reality TV star like Donald Trump or Mark Cuban. Millions of people who have no idea about technicalities will be charmed by the charisma of Roger Ver
It seems to me that no one will prove anything. those people who are going to invest in bitcoin or even crypto currencies should carefully study everything and understand everything even a little, and not listen to some pseudo-experts.
we should not fight with each over. The enemy only glad about this. And also they ruin the independent/decentralized idea. The community should decide what yo choose and what not.
A handful of whales decided to create Bitcoin Cash because of what many see as reasons of greed and jealousy against their failure to control Bitcoin.
we should not fight with each over. The enemy only glad about this. And also they ruin the independent/decentralized idea. The community should decide what yo choose and what not.
I do believe that Roger Ver made Bitcoin cash to line up his pocket and the pockets of many many other business cartels. I remember when a big pump happened on a Korean exchange and it really led to a lot of FUD regarding Bitcoin and he was the head of that FUD. They really played a dirty game against bitcoin and although I do not have anything against other altcoins, on the contrary I collect and trade them, I do not like the underhanded way Roger Ver tried to go against Bitcoin for his own greed and for some other greedy business people to make bank. 
Your views are shared by many people. Many people consider Bitcoin Cash as nothing more than a dirty game against Bitcoin which will not last the course. Ver lost whatever respect he had within the crypto-community with his anti-Bitcoin stance which by default was going to line his pockets even more than they already were.
even funnier part is because i dont like cores centralisation you think the opposers to centralisation should be pigeon holed into another team..
that there is the mindset of someone who deep down thinks centralisation is the only way things function.
'if your not team X you must be team Y'
you have become so indocrinated that your even using their words "big blockers", like you have been handed a script.
you are still stuck in the 2 sided battle mindset that you cant see the big picture
What centralization? Core is only one implementation of Bitcoin. You can choose to run a different node if you want, https://coin.dance/nodes
You cannot blame it on the developers if the community wants to run the Bitcoin Core software.
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i explained it many times..
bloq who made cash is paid by the same investors as blockstream who make core
bloq who made cash is paid by the same investors as blockstream who make core
That is another topic I do not know about and good for another thread. We are here to talk about Roger Ver manipulating newbies into believing that BCH = BTC.
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its a massive kardashian drama distraction to cause people who hate core(kim fanclub) to be pushed into one of the other sisters fanclub.. simply to get core(kims) fans to not see the opposers, allowing core(kim) to do what she likes, while trying to get the opposers indocrinated into being deceived back into centralisation by making them favour another of the same family(DCG) member
That is what the Roger Ver fan club is saying and spreading. It is unproven and unsubstantiated.
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its like sheep herding. where the farmer(dcg) has a field. he sends his sheep dogs(blockstream/bloq) to scare some sheep into a neighbouring field. the sheep think they are freeing themselves by running through the open gate into another field. but they dont realise the farmer owns that field too
I do not know why you are including that in the discussion. We are talking about Roger Ver's fraudulent behavior by making people think BCH = BTC.
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just look at the mirror
adam back | craig wright (both scamming to say they invented "bitcoin")
adam back | craig wright (both scamming to say they invented "bitcoin")
Adam Back never claimed that he was Satoshi Nakamoto. Craig Wright did. That makes Craig Wright a scammer.
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gmaxwell | Jgarzic (both saying they made the main nodes of the network)
Gregory Maxwell did not try to work with Jihan Wu, Barry Silbert and the NYA to hard fork to S2X. The "scaling debate" was a red herring. It was a political move to take over development and save Bitmain's covert AsicBoost capabilities in their miners.
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theymos | ver (both saying they own and moderate the main information portals)
But Roger Ver's portal is confusing the public that BCH = BTC.
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people who beleive in real decentralisation should be saying
NO TEAM owns "bitcoin". the bilateral split seen to that
both sides can use "bitcoin" but must clarify if its the bilateral fork made by cores rules or by cash's rules
bitcoin.org also needs to be less biased about core if you think that bitcoin.com needs to be less biased about cash.
NO TEAM owns "bitcoin". the bilateral split seen to that
both sides can use "bitcoin" but must clarify if its the bilateral fork made by cores rules or by cash's rules
bitcoin.org also needs to be less biased about core if you think that bitcoin.com needs to be less biased about cash.
I believe you can use the term "Bitcoin Cash" for as long as you like. Did you see me call it "Bcash"? I never used it once. I want to be diplomatic when I talk about it.
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if you disagree then you really are stuck in the core monarchy defense camp
it makes it real obvious that most already want core centralisation. because they refuse to pretend decentralisation exists, because if they wer decentralists they would attack jgarzic
jgarzic has not been attacked FOR MAKING cash. because the core fanboys know he is one of their own monarchs
it makes it real obvious that most already want core centralisation. because they refuse to pretend decentralisation exists, because if they wer decentralists they would attack jgarzic
jgarzic has not been attacked FOR MAKING cash. because the core fanboys know he is one of their own monarchs
Do not attack me and my character. Let us stick to the debate.
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i tried to keep the whole british manarchy/commonwealth/empire comparison short by only using the modern analogy of "dollar" just to keep it ELI-5 but it seems too many are too stuck in a centralist mindset to see it.
so to americans. who think they all speak english, just like canada and australia. you can pretend you speak english and that english is your language you own. but its not. you speak american. its pot8o not pot@o.
so to australians. who think they all speak english, just like canada and america. you can pretend you speak english and that english is your language you own. but its not. you speak australiann. its good day not ga'day.
you must clarify that you are american when dealing in international communications and clarify that your currency is american dollar as oppose to australian dollar.and that you can use the term "dollar" but do not own "dollar" brand.
but im guessing most will just continue reading the scripts of reddit(cores church/bible) and preach the word of core religion
so just if you cannot get out of the religion. atleast be honest and preach
"decentralisation is dead, long live distribution"
have a nice enclosed life and enjoy fiat2.0 of banker managed hubs, if your not gonna bother seeing the big picture to fight for real decentralisation
so to americans. who think they all speak english, just like canada and australia. you can pretend you speak english and that english is your language you own. but its not. you speak american. its pot8o not pot@o.
so to australians. who think they all speak english, just like canada and america. you can pretend you speak english and that english is your language you own. but its not. you speak australiann. its good day not ga'day.
you must clarify that you are american when dealing in international communications and clarify that your currency is american dollar as oppose to australian dollar.and that you can use the term "dollar" but do not own "dollar" brand.
but im guessing most will just continue reading the scripts of reddit(cores church/bible) and preach the word of core religion
so just if you cannot get out of the religion. atleast be honest and preach
"decentralisation is dead, long live distribution"
have a nice enclosed life and enjoy fiat2.0 of banker managed hubs, if your not gonna bother seeing the big picture to fight for real decentralisation
That is not the problem. Roger Ver's fraudulent acts are. He keeps saying Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin but it is not, because when the community say and think of Bitcoin they are referring to what you call "Bitcoin Core".
Bitcoin is Bitcoin Core. Sorry but that's how everyone sees it. Except the deniers in the Bitcoin Cash community. But calling Bitcoin as "Bitcoin Core" is a mistake because it is really only one implementation of the real Bitcoin.
Plus good luck to you franky1. I enjoy our discussions.
This has been talked about on this forum. Roger Ver has been (supposedly) misleading newbies, making them believe that bitcoin cash is the real bitcoin:
Bitcoin Cash is the real Bitcoin. Allah is the real God; Jesus is a phony. To adherents on both sides, the other side is just fucking outrageous and needs to die.
According to many people Ver is still trying to destroy Bitcoin. According to many people Ver tried but failed to destroy Bitcoin so now he is trying to make as much money and cause as much disruption as possible.
This has been talked about on this forum. Roger Ver has been (supposedly) misleading newbies, making them believe that bitcoin cash is the real bitcoin:
Bitcoin Cash is the real Bitcoin. Allah is the real God; Jesus is a phony. To adherents on both sides, the other side is just fucking outrageous and needs to die.
not exactly ver wants not money he wants the peoples "time"
which is the currency that "time" and "work" is currently sacrificed for the most like "us dollar"
but how is bitcoin or any other ico different here?
and others
we have all money but ver wants special types of money
There was evidence for Roger Ver deliberately misleading people on his website "bitcoin.com".
Image link: https://i.imgur.com/Q639aTC.jpg
Source: https://twitter.com/Ragnarly/status/988535641070751744
There is data which might support a lawsuit, also things like this: https://twitter.com/moneytrigz/status/989263151622426624
From using bitpay which compares bitcoin transaction fees to bitcoin cash fees everytime a payment is made, it seems there is a coordinated and massive effort to convince people to embrace bitcoin cash over bitcoin core. I'm surprised this is a topic which isn't discussed more often as the bias in favor of bch appears to be very strong.
Also don't forget the numerous sock puppet accounts posting bitcoin cash propaganda on this forum. Other coins would also appear to have advertising bots.
Image link: https://i.imgur.com/Q639aTC.jpg
Source: https://twitter.com/Ragnarly/status/988535641070751744
There is data which might support a lawsuit, also things like this: https://twitter.com/moneytrigz/status/989263151622426624
From using bitpay which compares bitcoin transaction fees to bitcoin cash fees everytime a payment is made, it seems there is a coordinated and massive effort to convince people to embrace bitcoin cash over bitcoin core. I'm surprised this is a topic which isn't discussed more often as the bias in favor of bch appears to be very strong.
Also don't forget the numerous sock puppet accounts posting bitcoin cash propaganda on this forum. Other coins would also appear to have advertising bots.
horrible roger ver trying to make new players confused and trying very hard to try to replace bitcoin with fake bitcoin hopefully it will not take a toll. should roger ver get a criminal for having changed the name of bitcoin (BTC) without thinking.
The proposed lawsuit against Ver has stopped because of lack of funding. It would have been interesting to see what the outcome would have been in a court of law.
There was evidence for Roger Ver deliberately misleading people on his website "bitcoin.com".
Image link: https://i.imgur.com/Q639aTC.jpg
Source: https://twitter.com/Ragnarly/status/988535641070751744
There is data which might support a lawsuit, also things like this: https://twitter.com/moneytrigz/status/989263151622426624
From using bitpay which compares bitcoin transaction fees to bitcoin cash fees everytime a payment is made, it seems there is a coordinated and massive effort to convince people to embrace bitcoin cash over bitcoin core. I'm surprised this is a topic which isn't discussed more often as the bias in favor of bch appears to be very strong.
Also don't forget the numerous sock puppet accounts posting bitcoin cash propaganda on this forum. Other coins would also appear to have advertising bots.
Image link: https://i.imgur.com/Q639aTC.jpg
Source: https://twitter.com/Ragnarly/status/988535641070751744
There is data which might support a lawsuit, also things like this: https://twitter.com/moneytrigz/status/989263151622426624
From using bitpay which compares bitcoin transaction fees to bitcoin cash fees everytime a payment is made, it seems there is a coordinated and massive effort to convince people to embrace bitcoin cash over bitcoin core. I'm surprised this is a topic which isn't discussed more often as the bias in favor of bch appears to be very strong.
Also don't forget the numerous sock puppet accounts posting bitcoin cash propaganda on this forum. Other coins would also appear to have advertising bots.
horrible roger ver trying to make new players confused and trying very hard to try to replace bitcoin with fake bitcoin hopefully it will not take a toll. should roger ver get a criminal for having changed the name of bitcoin (BTC) without thinking.
The proposed lawsuit against Ver has stopped because of lack of funding. It would have been interesting to see what the outcome would have been in a court of law.
This has been talked about on this forum. Roger Ver has been (supposedly) misleading newbies, making them believe that bitcoin cash is the real bitcoin:
Bitcoin Cash is the real Bitcoin. Allah is the real God; Jesus is a phony. To adherents on both sides, the other side is just fucking outrageous and needs to die.
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