Topic: Roger Ver to be sued for defrauding bitcoin newbies. - page 16. (Read 3146 times)

even funnier part is because i dont like cores centralisation you think the opposers to centralisation should be pigeon holed into another team..
that there is the mindset of someone who deep down thinks centralisation is the only way things function.
'if your not team X you must be team Y'

you have become so indocrinated that your even using their words "big blockers", like you have been handed a script.

you are still stuck in the 2 sided battle mindset that you cant see the big picture

i explained it many times..
bloq who made cash is paid by the same investors as blockstream who make core



its a massive kardashian drama distraction to cause people who hate core(kim fanclub) to be pushed into one of the other sisters fanclub.. simply to get core(kims) fans to not see the opposers, allowing core(kim) to do what she likes, while trying to get the opposers indocrinated into being deceived back into centralisation by making them favour another of the same family(DCG) member

its like sheep herding. where the farmer(dcg) has a field. he sends his sheep dogs(blockstream/bloq) to scare some sheep into a neighbouring field. the sheep think they are freeing themselves by running through the open gate into another field. but they dont realise the farmer owns that field too

just look at the mirror
adam back | craig wright (both scamming to say they invented "bitcoin")
gmaxwell | Jgarzic (both saying they made the main nodes of the network)
theymos | ver (both saying they own and moderate the main information portals)

people who beleive in real decentralisation should be saying
NO TEAM owns "bitcoin". the bilateral split seen to that
both sides can use "bitcoin" but must clarify if its the bilateral fork made by cores rules or by cash's rules
bitcoin.org also needs to be less biased about core if you think that bitcoin.com needs to be less biased about cash.

if you disagree then you really are stuck in the core monarchy defense camp
it makes it real obvious that most already want core centralisation. because they refuse to pretend decentralisation exists, because if they wer decentralists they would attack jgarzic
jgarzic has not been attacked FOR MAKING cash. because the core fanboys know he is one of their own monarchs

i tried to keep the whole british manarchy/commonwealth/empire comparison short by only using the modern analogy of "dollar" just to keep it ELI-5 but it seems too many are too stuck in a centralist mindset to see it.
so to americans. who think they all speak english, just like canada and australia. you can pretend you speak english and that english is your language you own. but its not. you speak american. its pot8o not pot@o.

so to australians. who think they all speak english, just like canada and america. you can pretend you speak english and that english is your language you own. but its not. you speak australiann. its good day not ga'day.

you must clarify that you are american when dealing in international communications and clarify that your currency is american dollar as oppose to australian dollar.and that you can use the term "dollar" but do not own "dollar" brand.  

but im guessing most will just continue reading the scripts of reddit(cores church/bible) and preach the word of core religion
so just if you cannot get out of the religion. atleast be honest and preach
"decentralisation is dead, long live distribution"

have a nice enclosed life and enjoy fiat2.0 of banker managed hubs, if your not gonna bother seeing the big picture to fight for real decentralisation

I do believe that Roger Ver made Bitcoin cash to line up his pocket and the pockets of many many other business cartels. I remember when a big pump happened on a Korean exchange and it really led to a lot of FUD regarding Bitcoin and he was the head of that FUD. They really played a dirty game against bitcoin and although I do not have anything against other altcoins, on the contrary I collect and trade them, I do not like the underhanded way Roger Ver tried to go against Bitcoin for his own greed and for some other greedy business people to make bank. 

Bitcoin Cash is the real Bitcoin.  Allah is the real God; Jesus is a phony.  To adherents on both sides, the other side is just fucking outrageous and needs to die.  

But you seem to think that Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin, which is not. It forked away from the main chain when it changed the consensus rules creating an altcoin.


But guess what, the rest of the world outside Bitcoin Cash's community recognizes what you call "Bitcoin Core" as Bitcoin.

Do you really expect someone to buy BCH would think that he is holding BTC?


Yes, when I say "Bitcoin", I mean the network you call "Bitcoin Core". I will keep calling it Bitcoin, deal with it. But you can call it whatever you want.


I did not say anything about owning. It is what we call it. It is not our fault when you call Bitcoin Cash as Bitcoin hilarity ensues.


I am a propagandist? I am explaining my own point of view. Sorry if we cannot agree in some things, but we need to co-exist. You can have your big blocks no problem.


Attack is a strong word, let's use discourse. In the end of all this we will learn to live together.

I hope. Hahaha.

horrible roger ver trying to make new players confused and trying very hard to try to replace bitcoin with fake bitcoin hopefully it will not take a toll. should roger ver get a criminal for having changed the name of bitcoin (BTC) without thinking.

When participating in bitcoin trading, you have to be careful. Choose reputable websites to avoid unfortunate mistakes. Recently, a community movement has grown to more than 600 members in just two days to pursue legal action against Bitcoin.com and CEO Roger Ver, for intentionally misleading "new users" to buy. Bitcoin Cash (BCH) instead of Bitcoin (BTC).

those that would want to buy bitcoin cash would by bitcoin cash anyway,

those that wanted to buy bitocoin would then buy bitcoin cash,

this way bitcoincash gets more demand and price is higher,

making roger richer since he is selling his premine

but roger underestimates the long term effects of all this,
his earned us dollar might completely become worthless if there will be a crypto us dollar,
and or the entire/most of us economy becomes ico token based.

regards

Thank you for pointing it out, that is so bad. I wonder why they created such confusion?

Consensus clearly shows the community call Bitcoin (XBT/BTC) and it calls Bcash or Bitcoin Cash (BCH). The majority of the community clearly feel the BCH fork was designed to primarily boost the coffers and egos of the whales behind the project. Bitcoin Core is related to a team of devs, the core structure but the coin itself is Bitcoin (not Bitcoin Core)

"Bitcoin" is simply "Bitcoin" and the following are altcoins, they are NOT "Bitcoin" until or unless it has the greatest economic majority and accumulated proof of work as DooMAD stated earlier:

Bitcoin 21
Bitcoin Atom
Bitcoin Cash
Bitcoin Dark
Bitcoin Diamond   
Bitcoin Fast
Bitcoin God
Bitcoin Gold
Bitcoin Green
Bitcoin Interest
Bitcoin Planet
Bitcoin Plus
Bitcoin Private
Bitcoin Scrypt
Bitcoin X   
Bitcoin Z

One of the points ( some say promoting or selling or propoganda) that Ver cited was that there were 3 or 4 'different' teams of devs working on Bitcoin Cash and that there was a democratic process involved as for the future direction, whereas with Bitcoin he claimed there was a single group controlling everything. Hmmm, it seems the 3 or 4 groups of Bitcoin Cash devs (if they exist) do actually control what path to plot for their Bitcoin Cash fork.

https://tools.bitcoin.com/paper-wallet/

More cheekiness here. All they have to do is add the Cash word, and even that's not really good enough. It's easy enough for us not to be taken in. Different matter when you're a noob.

He should be sued for a shed load of bitcoin cash and see if he still tries to shill it. The same would happen if i created a new phone called iphonne that was identical to the iphone, and redirected all the apple drones to the iphonne site. This is wrong and ver should be penalised for tricking newbies

both parties will lose, the ultimate winners will be the bankster Cartel that controlls the communal fiats, they will secretly seeking to expose and publicate this conflict. and the unending following ones.

i made a topic about this issue -> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.35985900

alex jones also exposed this conflict to damage cryptocurrencies.

I'm not sure if they are going to win. Bitcoin.com Has been misleading users with calling BCH the Bitcoin. As far as I know they have already made some changes to their website. This whole battle between BTC and BCH gets more and more ridiculous. Bcash supporters are desperate to do everything in order to achieve the flippening which in my opinion won't happen. Bitcoin community is strong despite many quarrels about scaling.

ok i help everyone believing why listen: very carefully


SOME PEOPLE (among many are smart ones on purpose) DON'T CARE FOR THE TRUTH; THEY DONT CARE WHICH TECH IS BETTER; THEY SIMPLY, and on full purpose "PROPAGATE" THE COIN THAT THEY ARE INVESTED IN; THAT BRINGS THEM THE MOST PROFITS, THEY IGNORE THINGS DELIBERATELY (like roger ver) WHEN ITS IN THEIR INTEREST TO IGNORE THINGS DELIBERATELY

only IT tech freaks and fair competitionalist, and stuborn "truthseekers" live still in this illusory bubble and cant see this

bitcoin and crypto isnt just a money machine its also a machine fueling unresolvable tribalism!!!!!!! and interest conflicts that can't be peacefully mutually AND REASONABLY resolved

it doesnt even matter what coins they buy they push and propagate the coin that is in their interest.

regards

all arguments about bitcoin cash can be made about bitcoin core
all arguments about bitcoin.com can be made about bitcoin.org

the reality is NEITHER are "the one and only sole bitcoin" the bilateral split seen to that

but it makes the situation alot clearer if you can be smart enough to take an unbiased step back (300 steps back for some) and then translate the crypto buzzwords into the dollar buzzwords. to then see it in a ELI-5 plain english average joe understanding

i still cant beleive that after atleast 10 topics of atleast half a dozen pages per topic that people ignore the bilateral split and instead do all they can to defend core as "the one and only bitcoin" maintainers.

to those that want to scream there is only one bitcoin and its the one that contains the code rules and bips and roadmap maintained by core.. just o one thing
just proclaim this
"decentralisation is dead long live distrubution" and stop pretending that core can own the brand yet prtend its all still decentralised

so just proclaim "decentralisation is dead.. long live distribution" and move on living in your monarchy and you kissing a kings ass and liv in your centralist world.

you guys can't free your mind from the brand "bitcoin" dont you?

well you will have to one day. no way around that.

it seems roger ver is trying very hard to try to substitute bitcoin cash into bitcoin so try to buy some assets and a website called bitcoin and used to inform bitcoin cash. it's sad if new users make a mistake when buying.

there is no such thing as consensus here, only interest groups.

completely meaningless to establish and enforce a standard

this whole issue will be a huge embarassement for the industry in front of the judges

btc moved away from the single empire just as much as bch moved away from the single empire.
their is now no single empire. no one owns the empire or the branding.
not cores codebase of segwit and the roadmap that makes up BTC
not cashs codebase that makes up Bch

stop pretending cores protocol cores codebase, cores rules, cores features that make up btc own "bitcoin"
the bilateral split seen to that.

put it this way
if there was not a august 2017 bilateral split. and instead a consensus vote of a SINGLE network upgrade. then that single empire would retain the brand and all the opposing nodes would continue to run on the single network as a single nation

but the civil war/bilateral split. showed they both surrendered to walk in different directions. they both equally lost the battle of being a single network being "the bitcoin"

you want to prtend your not defending core by saying "btc" owns "bitcoin" solely and fully..
anyway i could take it one step further and we could argue all day about why should core even own the term BTC.

the network of CORE rules has no rights of ownership to the brand.. if you disagree and think the network of core rules should own the brand then you are just saying core own the network. because they are the maintainers and rule setters of that network.

if you still cannot see the loyalist spech you are making that cores rules should own "bitcoin" then you are too close to kissing cores ass..
take a few steps back..
if you cant see it still.. take a few more steps back

again you cant just say america gets to own brand dolar due to america having larger population.. thats the weakest defence of all and belongs as a punch line on a stand up comedy night..
it would be the case in a concensus situation.. but a consensus situation did not occur. so is meaningless

the reason its funny. because after a bilateral split.. you are saying if lets say it became extremely profitable to mine bitcoin xyz(random made up) and suddenly that random fork over powered core in hash rate.. would you then claim bitcoin xyz(random made up) is now the sole and only bitcoin

or would you still say bitcoin core(btc) was the real and only bitcoin

From the first time BCH went out I already doubted it. Didn't even participate into getting that BCH airdrop that they are giving. It is all greed on the inside and not worthy for any human being support.
He used it very well just so he could get this price now. Just as I thought. Why name it with almost the same name as bitcoin. This is the purpose and it is now in the surface unlike before.

But I doubt anyone will win against him. There are still supports him and think of him as Jesus just because of the free money from the airdrop. Strength in numbers will be the key.