Topic: Rollbit - be aware, i was lucky (Read 825 times)

You are really just making some bumps of a thread which it had been inactive for months already on which this isnt really that good.
So refrain on doing that on next time.

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Going back into the topic about alternatives to Rollbit? Yes, there are tons and this is the best thing when the competition is high because you could really be able
to choose on what options that you are taking because different sites does have their different user experience and offering they do give.
I dont see for Rollbit to be a shit site though considering that they've been running through all the years here on this space and maintain their popularity.
The fact that they had launched recently their signature campaign showing those Rollbit Arena on which i could tell that it is really that interesting.

You are literally right, and I agree with you bud, there are many gamblers out there who do not read, but are quick to accuse a casino of trying to, or actually scamming them at the slightest given opportunity, some do this when they expected to win a game but lost instead, they find a way to get back at the casino, and one of such ways is to accuse the casino of scam or so.

I use to have a friend in some days far way, who will always come one forum like this accuse a casino of scamming him after he has gambled on the casino and legitimately lost, his accusation is not because he does not know that he legitimately lost, but because he is angry and needed to vent some of those anger on the casino  , this is why I usually don't believe scam accusations against gambling casino without the accuser providing concrete evidence.

Most casinos have a system in place that acts as if the whole mechanism of. The system is designed to cheat the players but then also we have to be sure that what we feel and see as a cheat from the casino is not just one of those unfavourable house edge advantages that the casino has silently mentioned in their terms and conditions.

So for sure we as players have to be clear on some things to help us avoid many assumptions,  because what was mentioned that Rollbits scammed him is all tailored to the fact that he may have failed to properly understand how this casinos act with their principles.

i think its pretty clear what happened. they fronted you cash, hoping it would sink a hook into your cheek- turning you into a long term user who would then dump them cash. since this did not happen, they cut ties with you.

Rollbit does not scam gamblers, but they do employ shady tactics very often to make sure that their business stays afloat based on what I observed which is why it's not advisable to invest huge amounts there.

Anyone with a half-decent brain knows that they utilise KYC in a messed up manner now and then to try and stop gamblers from withdrawing their winnings successfully.

There are many good alternatives to rollbit I found and like BetSwirl  but there tons of better sites

Are you from Rollbit or?
They never scammed me, but if i didnt withdraw the last 10K balance i had in there before i was banned.. then i would have been scammed. Cause i got a bonus like almost a year ago, since then i only deposited and withdrew with my own money (and yes money that i won, but that doesnt matter here. A deposit is a deposit.)

Have you ever looked in the Rollbit thread or searched their name? Its full of unresolved issues with people who got confiscated life changing money without any accurate explanation. So when Rollbit support joins a post thats getting to hot with a reason to the issue being “ Our sportsbook provider Betby warned us and confirmed 100% abuse” then you think its resolved. I read about confiscations every week. Where do you read?

One day it might be you who got extremely lucky and suddenly the money you won would be gone and you might be left out of the account with no further explanation. Imagine comming here with your case and meet people like yourself, who more trust a shady brand that you know absolutely nothing about.

Yes, they reached out to me, and i requested that i would give them the username here public if they would be 100% detailed about what i did, so people in here could make their own opinion if it was fair or not. Did support answer that? Nope.

Btw i didnt post this in scam accusations cause i was not scammed, but if you were betting in there right now.. i could hopefully help you a bit to read this so you knew that “ okay i have a good balance here on a brand that multiple people actually got their money confiscated from.. maybe i should withdraw it”.

See it as a help. That was my intention.

Where do you see on my post that you are not allowed to post here? What I’m trying to say here is why you are willing to spend time here just to claim that Rollbit is a scam while there’s no harm to you in terms of money loss. You can’t guarantee either that this issue will happen or happened to other users?

Your proof is not enough to prove that they are scam. Yes your account was banned but they have the right to do it according to their terms of services.

I’m not saying that their action is right but they are not scamming you either or other players. This is what I don’t understand. If you are a real high roller player, It will be easy for you to move on and just continue on Stake with your high level VIP right? Rollbit is operating here for many years without any unresolved issues. The support sent a message here already which shows their willingness to resolve your issue. What happened to it?

Unfortunately, I personally do not see the big bonus as anything, because first, becoming a hardcore gambling, and even becoming a diamond player in stake, requires that the gambler would have spent more money than what op made as profit from the bonus Rollbit awarded him, and it is not new that most times, in the process of reaching such a level, the gambler must have lost far more money than they've ever won, expect for the few lucky ones who's luck might help them beat the casino over time .

And how Rollbit obtained op information is still a mystery to me as well, because I do not know or believe that casinos share users information with other casinos, that I believe will be so unprofessional and a breach of the user's privacy , maybe op is wrong with that statement that Roll bit obtained his information from Stake, I do not think that is true .

What a wierd message dude.. I am not allowed to post here because i won money?
i warn people..
If you ever had like a 10k balance on Rollbit, im telling people to cash out, cause these people bans accounts, ignoring messages. Lucky for me is that i didnt have money in there when it happend, but maybe you had? If you then came across this post you would maybe consider taking the money out. You for sure can’t say i didnt warn you.

Regarding proofs..

I also provided proofs of their unresponsiveness and i also passed a link for  stakecommunity where all recieved a bonus from Rollbit at the same time. How can you make such an ignorant message if you dont go through it all?

I GUESS ( and try to understand that it really is a guess, but i do think Im right cause a know the Industry pretty well) somebody from Stake or a hacker sold a list to Rollbit with very valueable info. If i deposit +1M$ on Stake, then its obvious that they try with a 6K bonus rather than sending a 100$ to me. It worked.. but because of my luck it didnt pay off. My activity in there has been 80% casino and 20% sports.

I couldnt care less about Rollbit, i just tell people that Rollbit is Wild Wild West and People’s money can be gone forever without any explanation about what happend.

Honestly - after looking around in here.. How many post is about users getting confiscated crazy amount like 20K+. People in here is somehow always trying to defend the casinos actions and eats the answers from the casino raw. Look at him Razors answers “ yea 100% sports abuse confirmed”. He said that to another post, but didnt get detailed or provided any proofs and people started to call the OP of that post an abusers. People afraid of pushing that Razor guy? Is he god?

I believe many people got their money confiscated unjustified from this casino as its uses shady methods to get players, all mods and support uses nicknames and there is no official person with a real name public for this casino.. also too many people who got their balance confiscated. Would never happend with a more serious license like Malta or UK. Here they would be forced into getting detailed. Curacao is just a cheap license with no real option to get a complaint resolved by professionals. The people who reply to a complaint can’t even write proper english.
The bonus i got from Rollbit is even higher than what it cost to accuire a license in curacao.

Not saying that all curacao brands are shady.. you just have to be careful. I 100% trust Stake.. they are big enough to run a proper business and you know the owners. Nothing is hidden. Real names and pictures of support.
Rollbit is a totally different league bro. Ride the wave, until you get shaved.

This is just an OP assumption since he never provided a proof about Rollbit knew that he is high roller on different casino. I believe he is just assuming it to establish a case about his accusation on Rollbit that is not trusted for banning his account.

One thing is questionable here the moment I read this thread. Why does the OP is still salty on his account banned even though he already withdrew his balance including the bonus while he can continue to play again his previous casino which is Stake that he ihas a high level VIP. He already completed his goal if ever his assumption is true that he received exclusive promotion just because he is a high roller on Stake. He manage to win on a casino that is still new to him so I don't understand what's the point on pursuing this kind of warcry unless there's still something else untold in his story.

Being a Diamond player at Stake.com means that you are a hardcore gambler. Right?
How the hell did Rollbit find out that you are Diamond level player on Stake.com? Do you think that the crypto casinos share information about players between each other? That doesn't seem right to me. I don't want multiple crypto casinos to have info about me.
Congratulations on getting such big bonuses. I didn't know that some crypto casinos might be so generous to hardcore gamblers.
I don't think that many people would become cautious about Rollbit. Your post might cause the opposite effect and more people will join Rollbit expecting a big bonus.

On your website it does say KYC. There is deposit and withdrawal. This is not decentralized

Completely decentralized. You can check the docs and contracts here.  https://docs.just.bet/justbet/developers/contracts

There are many casinos which have odds like those that do count toward the level up and bonuses as well like 1.03 to 1.10 count toward leveling up in most casinos.The casinos should clearly state that these type of bets do not count toward the promotions just like Stake for example makes it clear in the Level up or slot challenges that they do weekly,they say explicitly that buying the bonus will consist a max of x5 multiplier even if you win a big multi on the bonus round,so you have to play normally in order to go for the promotion prizes.

The same for sport bets,the casinos should be clear,Rollbit in such case should have offered a much more professional explanation as this is bad to their reputation.

Is JustBet truly an onchain gambling service like DirectBet was, or is it merely the wallet interacting with the site on login?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/directbet-live-sportsbook-racebook-now-accepting-ether-393147

I believe no casino could actually claim to be "no KYC" if it doesn't utilize the blockchain as it should be at the back-end/when the casino's website merely functions as a front-end for the service.

Plus another clue. I believe if a casino is regulated, there are definitely no assurances that it will stay "no KYC" forever. But if it isn't regulated, I want to be assured that the casino is a real onchain casino.

Real "Onchain Casinos" built on top of a real blockchain, that claim to be truly "no KYC" would be very hard to execute.

I think OP sounds realistic. Casinos have interrelationships and communicate amongst themselves that is why sometimes you see that casinos know and have details about players not just players but high roller coaster players with high membership level on the various casinos they are with. So rollbit giving OP such bonus means they know OP details and are definitely doing that to get OP deposit funds with them as he or she does with other casinos and probably OP took advantage of them and did not deposited anything which was their major target. Definitely, that must have resulted to OP being banned from the casino without any reasons but however calling the attention of the members here is a good thing OP did because this would help prevent some future occurrences as this thread has already revealed most of it and the experience from different replies and comments.

I had complicated thoughts understanding what the OP meant by Rollbit.com haven’t somehow discovered him or her as a diamond player on Stake.com. Like, where these guys (gambling sites) into any form of data sharing… well it appears that isn’t the case with you talking about email hacks and data sells but, is that overly possible? How many spam mails has one got to read to single out certain high stake or ranking users on the other parties gambling site.
As unusual as the case may seem, it’s most likely not to be the case as, I don’t see a reputable gambling platform like Rollbit going into such shady act just to acquire and keep gamblers.

Well, I don't think you completely understand or understood what the op is all about exactly.
Based on what I understand, he's not actually accusing Rollbit or scamming any way, and neither is he really complaining about his account that was banned by Rollbit who claimed he was banned due to abuse .

What exactly he(the op ) is saying here is that, he made this thread to warn other users who might be as lucky as he is to receive the kind of bonuses he received , op is only warning us to always withdraw such money out of the casino as soon as we can, as the casino might wake up one morning and ban the user, most especially when he or she has won a lot of money easily from nothing else but the bonus the casino gave to awarded the user with .

OP,

It's written there in the small letters, any casino always has them, "any player who abuses the promotions will not be selected or will not be allowed to participate in them", and "blah, blah, blah, blah."

If you are an experienced player as you say, I am getting to know you from this thread, You don't know that, it's basic... common sense of every bettor.

The most recent promotion that I remember, it does not mean that it is active now, was a casino that for simply depositing offered free spins and not 20 or 50, it was up to 250 free spins with each deposit, and they had it weekly, for example, if I deposited $xyz, and I didn't won anything with the spins, wager 1x of my deposit, this was not mandatory, so, deposited again, until one day I managed to hit a good multiplier, yeah, I did the same with my deposit (1x) and withdrew my winnings, without problems.

The condition of making a 1x wager was not in the ToC, and! they had a large "neon" notice that mentioned that there were no binding conditions for slot winnings for their spin deposit promotion, they met it...

...I stopped that practice, which I took advantage of at the time and I'm still in that casino, they have good promotions that I like to take advantage of, but I don't forget that above all the relationship with a casino is commercial, "win-win", It's up to you to put the percentage to that "win".

So. It's common sense, and it's a business, it's just not worth it to be in a casino where they take away your royalties, that doesn't work for you and it doesn't work for the casino either.

There is a belief that casinos want losing players and the truth is that they want guys like you, who know how to win and that is why they promote them, a looser does not know how to invest any bonus or royalty that they give him, it is obvious that the casino wants you to bet, but the science of betting is to manage to maintain a return over time, I think you could obtain better profits in the long term, in the long run these types of "commitments" are for the casino like an investment, they are not "royalties".

For constant 1.01 bet players who want to take advantage of the royalties, some casinos choose to be explicit and make it known clearly in their Toc, others simply leave it in the gray area of "any abuse of our promotions leads to their suspension" , easy money in casinos does not exist.

At the end of this whole story, because it only serves as an example regardless of whether your story is true or not, is that you defined the type of player you are "i was lucky".