Topic: Rollbit - be aware, i was lucky - page 4. (Read 825 times)

First of all, according to your story, before your Rollbit account was closed, you were able to withdraw your balance from their wallet, correct? Then what is not clear to me is that you received $6,000. Is it $6000 in dollars or 6000 in free spins? And it looks like you're a high-level Diamond player, doesn't it? And the amount of money you released using the Rollbit platform last year was also large, between 50k and 80k.Maybe it can be said that you are still lucky because you were also able to withdraw a large amount from the Rollbit platform before they blocked your account. But your account is also a waste because you are also a diamond player level in Rollbit. Maybe you should try to follow up to find out the reason why your account is disabled.

He's a great gambler, meaning he can take advantage of the bonuses he gets. Sometimes no gambler is lucky when he gets free money and wins a lot, instead he loses his bet and runs out of money, but OP seems to be lucky and can make good use of the money so the gambling he does always wins. so the casino banned it and said there was abuse.

I also don't think there is a prohibition like that, but the OP is smart enough to withdraw the money quickly so it doesn't hurt too much to lose money there even though it comes from free money, I think this can also be used as a lesson for other gambler friends to take advantage of any situation when get free money bet it all when you win withdraw money and go enjoy that money  

Honestly , if it was the reason I see an abuse from the Casino not frmo the player : they should state clearly what an abuse is, not saying afterwards that something the player was allowed to do then reveals to be an abuse and used as a reason not to pay the winnings.

You must be very lucky. I don’t know what’s the intention of Rollbit for giving you an unexpected bonus but good thing you’ve withdrawn it before banning of your account. So your point of this post is to make us aware that if there’s unexpected bonuses or rewards that enter into our account, at least we should be ready for its consequences. But I don’t see it from your post. It seems like they have an error sending it or whatsoever. At least if you bet it all in and then you lose, you have nothing to regret since it was never your money in the first place.

"If someone from rollbit see its as an abuse, then its an abuse", That is a scary thing to say. I've done a lot of 1.01 bets and I'll be furious if they consider that as abuse and ban my account. what even is the point of having 1.01 odds on your games if you are going to ban them for using it? also, it doesn't matter if they use it to rank their account up, the gamblers that are doing that strategy basically risk losing their funds when doing it.

The main point I want to emphasize is that when I withdraw money from the casino, it becomes mine. On the other hand, when I make a deposit, it's still my money.

I use my funds to place bets at odds like 1.01 and 1.1, both to rank higher and gradually build up my balance. The casino offers features such as rakeback, weekly and monthly bonuses, similar to what Stake does. However, these bonuses are calculated based on your performance since the last time.

The issue might revolve around rakeback, especially considering they have a calendar bonus that activates every 8 hours, boosting your rakeback for an hour. This could imply that making low odds bets during that hour is seen as abusive. It seems like you can only bet on low odds for 21 out of 24 hours.

For instance, if I bet $100 on 1.01 odds, I win $1, but it's essential to note that just because it's 1.01 odds doesn't guarantee a win. Statistically, I'm supposed to lose at least 1/100 times based on the odds. However, during that hour, I might also receive an extra $1 in rakeback due to the increased rate, effectively doubling my winnings.

However, I must stress that I'm speculating because I lack clarity on the exact reasons behind these actions being considered abusive. My suspicions arise from a similar situation I found in another post where someone had their balance taken. If the casino's rules are indeed as I speculate, it would be helpful if they were clearly stated for all players to understand, so we all had the chance to think “omg thats too complicated for me, see ya”.

I understand your point. It's true that no casinos want their players take advantage of bonuses. It's not profitable for their business at all. But, what I am saying is, they have option to limit these things. They are aware of such behavior as they are the owner and they are the first one to notice the abuse. I believe you have played in some casinos where your wager does not count as qualified wager if you place bets in low odds. For example, In some casinos, you cannot use your free bet ticket on below 1.50 odds. Your wager won't count from table games. Your wager won't count from 99% win chance dice bets. Actually you can limit these things if you want as casino owner. But, why did you kept it open for users?

Hi!
Thanks for looking into this.

I was thinking, based on your replies to other issues regarding “sportsbook abuse”, could we then try something new to show some transparancy and make users make their own opinions about whats going on?

What you clarify exactly what i did wrong? Post the bets you think were abusive.. cause the more i think about it, the more Im sure i actually placed 1.1 odds bets rather than 1.01..

I have seen you only just post “yes 100% sportsbook abuse” .. i would like it detailed exactly what happend and why. Could we do that?

Check this one, maybe you have your records for this or else OP is just bluffing here and just trying to ruin the reputation of the site.
I hope we also get the updates here, so we can know if OP is telling the truth or not.
This is your best chance now OP, better to start communicating with them, good luck for this one.

do we have all the details of the story? obviously not.
we only hear one part without any proof of what was said.

why post this information, and exactly, what should we look out for? to a casino that applies its TOS?

Anyway thanks for this warning. the day I will reach a diamond level on stake... I'll know what to do!

What was your Rollbit display name? Happy to take a look for you.

Feel free to PM me it if you don't want to post it publicly.

Still not a reason though to ban the account not unless the account made something suspicious aside from always winning.
Getting that free money is still a good one, and luck continues until he made a lot of profit from it, the site should still inform why though.
Being a high tier gambler means a lot, Rollbit site probably expect more from this player but the result is not in favor to them, hard to know though.

Nice story.

Glad you got lucky and they paid you.
I also got the same promotion email and since I was platinum 3 at the time I got 100$ if I remember correctly.

Contrary to you they wanted me to deposit before being eligible to withdraw, and they wanted full KYC.
Since I don't trust this site at all with my documents I refused to do KYC and moved on with my life, without the free money.

Ever since I am trying to warn about rollbit. A site that uses stolen data of a competitor for self promotion cannot be trusted in my eyes.

It's probably "technically not abusive", but it could be that from the casino's viewpoint? Plus like you said in your OP, you have withdrawn $50,000 - $80,000 in the past year and possibly another $50,000 - $80,000 more every year for the NEXT FEW years, do you really believe the site will just allow you to do that to them? Right or wrong from a user's point of view, it was a business decision to lock your account and kick you out, and it should be an expected one in my opinion. If you wanted to have a consistent stream of revenue from doing that, then you should have made other "moves" that makes you look like a pleb-gambler.

Having a high tier on the casinos definitely enable you to become a recipient of the bonuses that you have and that 6k for free is definitely something to be happy about and not to be scoffed at. You enabling it to make it into a 50-80k in the past year is outstanding. It's nothing to be ashamed about. Like wow. 

I'm quite of the edge with you with the Rollbit thing because you were able to cash out for a year and then with the sudden ban, there might be something curious with your account that made them do that.

Maybe you are just winning too much lol.

To be honest it does not make sense. You give me an option then when I use it you tell me I abused it, it is not allowed. Is it a joke?
If that happen to me then I will be mad and will not think a second to create a flag against the casino.

Rollbit is very aware of it as far as I can remember now. In a thread they talked about it as well.

Obviously Casino is a business not a charity but that does not give them license to do whatever they want. Either remove the odd which are 99.99999% easy to win or give the winning without making an excuse. Would they refund if such a bet was lost? No.

Read my following post after that to have an overview on what I really mean.

This will help you to get what's my point here:

My word abused here is for the casino reasoning on banning him out and not the literal abuse for player PoV since he doesn't violate any ToS. Please remember that he was ban after he withdraw his bonus profit. Simply the OP find a way to claim promotion without taking normal risk on gambling. It's an abuse to the casino promotion as a business owner PoV because the player is just playing minimal risk just to claim the bonus. I'm not telling that player should take risk intentionally but that's what the casino is thinking as reason for the ban.

My last reply on this thread.



This reply by @arallmuus is the simplest form of what I'm referring.

I am puzzled why is this abuse when the site itself is surely aware of it thus they offered this odds to their player.  I wonder if a player should have asked the support for confirmation before betting this kind of odds to keep the account safe.


Can you explain why this is abusing the promotion?  Does winning from freebies considers an abuse now?  The way I look at it, it is the casinos fault and the player is just playing along the odds offered by the casino.  The casino should not offered the odds if it is not allowed to bet on. Probably @OP had done something that triggers the casino fraud security system aside from these low odds bet.


The casino should have not offered the bonuses if they can't afford to pay player that accept their generous offer if they continuously winning using the bonus amount.

Maybe it's not that they downloaded his betting history from Stake, like OP thinks, but he received the bonus by mistake and gambled with it, without reporting it as a bug. Rollbit saw their mistake and saw player as untrustworthy. Instead of making things clear to the player they banned him. It's strange behavior, I agree, but I don't get how a casino would know how much a player has wagered on another sites and give that player freebies just for being a high roller somewhere else.

He already provide some speculation on he get that promotion offer on the introduction of his post. He assumed that Rollbit might have access to his Stake information for being high roller in there which is really possible since some casino has some connected networks for players casino information that's why they can detect fraud activities even it happened from different casino.

Casino doesn't violate any ToS to claim the bonus. I believe the reason for the ban is due to his successful completing the bonus due to his strategy.