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Topic: Rollbit has literally has thrown my money away, sending it to an FTX address - page 4. (Read 1005 times)

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Let me not be too hash on you because you had the time to explained yourself to Razer telling were he should send your funds or even including the address, I mean the new address were he could have sent the money than just explaining your issues without providing address though I can't tell. Most casino or gambling sites do send back funds to the deposit address the thing is you could have included it in your complaint telling them the despite was from FTX so they should returned funds to your new address instead of old deposit address. To me I can't apportioned blames to rollbits and thier team of operation for their actions, sometimes they are trying to make sure it wasn't a scam attempt since most people can literally break some account and get rides of the funds with another address.

As of now I've been thinking of this but, the entire time I expected to come back to Rollbit with my money back in my Rollbit wallet. I didn't know this would happen, had I known I would've said something about it before it did. This is my first time ever having any trouble with an online casino too. I really wish I knew about this outcome being a possibility and saying this prior. All I can prove to them now is the situation but Idk if that changes anything sadly. I just feel so sad thinking about this and it's been taking so much time of my day away. Everytime I try to calm down I just keep realizing about this situation immediately after I couldn't even sleep last night until almost 3 am.

Anyway the did has been done and there is no way there would be a reversal of transaction nd you can't even accesses your FTX account, this simply shows that your funds are gone and I don't think Rollbits team should held responsible for this actions thought I will suggest you try to reach out to them again to see what their reply could be because from my experience so far if such case is on the ground what you would have done is to narrow down everything to them so that they will know how to make a refunds to you without sending to an obsolete address were you have no access to private key. But again I will like to say when next you are making deposit to a casino or gambling sites always withdraw your funds from exchange to a personal wallets before sending them to your gambling address otherwise if similar issues arises again this same could likely happened with you if you aren't careful on how you acts.
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Let me not be too hash on you because you had the time to explained yourself to Razer telling were he should send your funds or even including the address, I mean the new address were he could have sent the money than just explaining your issues without providing address though I can't tell. Most casino or gambling sites do send back funds to the deposit address the thing is you could have included it in your complaint telling them the despite was from FTX so they should returned funds to your new address instead of old deposit address. To me I can't apportioned blames to rollbits and thier team of operation for their actions, sometimes they are trying to make sure it wasn't a scam attempt since most people can literally break some account and get rides of the funds with another address.

As of now I've been thinking of this but, the entire time I expected to come back to Rollbit with my money back in my Rollbit wallet. I didn't know this would happen, had I known I would've said something about it before it did. This is my first time ever having any trouble with an online casino too. I really wish I knew about this outcome being a possibility and saying this prior. All I can prove to them now is the situation but Idk if that changes anything sadly. I just feel so sad thinking about this and it's been taking so much time of my day away. Everytime I try to calm down I just keep realizing about this situation immediately after I couldn't even sleep last night until almost 3 am.
hero member
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Let me not be too hash on you because you had the time to explained yourself to Razer telling were he should send your funds or even including the address, I mean the new address were he could have sent the money than just explaining your issues without providing address though I can't tell. Most casino or gambling sites do send back funds to the deposit address the thing is you could have included it in your complaint telling them the despite was from FTX so they should returned funds to your new address instead of old deposit address. To me I can't apportioned blames to rollbits and thier team of operation for their actions, sometimes they are trying to make sure it wasn't a scam attempt since most people can literally break some account and get rides of the funds with another address.
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First of all, you made a mistake in the very beginning. It is always wrong to directly transfer funds between exchanges and other services like gambling, mining pools etc...

Why did it have to be sent there too?

The company that used this address can verify that no money was stolen or anything either, I assume that they are willing to do a meeting with Razer as well to verify this.

Man, @holydarkness gave you the most likely explanation, of why the money was sent to the address from which the last deposit came. Obviously, there was a reason why they insisted on KYC and all checks, and their decision was not to risk further with AML.
Will repost again

IIRC, many casinos established a rule when someone was suspected to do an AML and prove their source of income [which are not from ML activities], they can only withdraw to their deposit address, let's call it a second layer of prevention against AML.


Dude bitcoin is literally raising so much right now I feel so fucking sad about this. I beg for this situation to be fixed man Sad

I would say that as far as Rolbit is concerned, your case is closed. The money was returned from their side, and it is certain that they will not send money again. Sorry for your loss, but you must accept that.  Sad


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Its just really messed up since I worked hard to earn this cash.

btw. Is gambling really hard-working?


How come the "very beginning" mistake is wrong? I am confused here. Is it against the rules of all gambling sites or something? I also didn't know the company was using FTX wallets at the time, the company put my money that I earned in BTC and I deposited using their wallet to rollbit (I shouldve just used my exodus, but I didn't think much at all I just trusted both wallets and I made the decision to use rollbits)

Until now I assumed based upon reading the explanation that only the money sent that I deposited from the company to Rollbit ($2,498)  should've been sent back even though the other 1.7k which wasn't involved with that address was also sent back. I understand now I guess

As for the last quote, I didn't gamble to win any of this cash. I worked hard through buying and selling rollbot nfts as well as buying and selling on other websites. I don't like taking risks it's not something I like to do. It took a couple of months to actually get that far(I had more but I gave it to a friend to help his rent debt in late 2021) I started with my initial investment of around $2k on Rollbot NFTs.

This is probably the worst way i've ever lost money and it's just unfair to me. I can understand why I'm not allowed to come back to their site even though it's still extremely dumb in the end that I stopped breaking a long while before the kyc lock when I realized, (but however still a serious rule that should have been taken seriously) but the way I lost my hard earned money here is just extremely stupid my life is literally becoming more ruined by this with not only the time spent stressing here rather than college but now I have to tell my friend to wait even longer before I can repay him which is sad man.
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First of all, you made a mistake in the very beginning. It is always wrong to directly transfer funds between exchanges and other services like gambling, mining pools etc...

Why did it have to be sent there too?

The company that used this address can verify that no money was stolen or anything either, I assume that they are willing to do a meeting with Razer as well to verify this.

Man, @holydarkness gave you the most likely explanation, of why the money was sent to the address from which the last deposit came. Obviously, there was a reason why they insisted on KYC and all checks, and their decision was not to risk further with AML.
Will repost again

IIRC, many casinos established a rule when someone was suspected to do an AML and prove their source of income [which are not from ML activities], they can only withdraw to their deposit address, let's call it a second layer of prevention against AML.


Dude bitcoin is literally raising so much right now I feel so fucking sad about this. I beg for this situation to be fixed man Sad

I would say that as far as Rolbit is concerned, your case is closed. The money was returned from their side, and it is certain that they will not send money again. Sorry for your loss, but you must accept that.  Sad


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Its just really messed up since I worked hard to earn this cash.

btw. Is gambling really hard-working?
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[...] went through a Google Meeting with SmokeyLisa to ensure that It was me who was verifying and then the Rollbit Team did a deep investigation on my account and my money to ensure that I wasn’t laundering any money or breaking the rules of the website

[...]

I've give your explanation a thorough reading, the above part I snipped from the rest probably explains how and why this thing happened to you. In fact, I was going to ask about it in case you didn't explain it first.

IIRC, many casinos established a rule when someone was suspected to do an AML and prove their source of income [which are not from ML activities], they can only withdraw to their deposit address, let's call it a second layer of prevention against AML.

I'm not sure if Razer will do anything about it, given the fund already went through and it's a rule of AML, but I'll send Razer a PM, see if there's anything he can do.


This is quite sad honestly and knowing how horrible my bad luck has been since 2023 I won't be surprised if I can't get it back but this is just fucked up, I did literally nothing wrong to deserve getting my money taken like this and I've been loyal with Rollbit for years and now everytime I think of them I feel sad. I trusted them and now I'm basically banished over a small mistake and my hard earned money is now gone because of the genuine unfairness of this situation here

I'm not sure if this helps but here is some extra information for the situation

Rollbit hasn’t stated any reason for their investigation but based upon the situation and their specific questions they asked me I believe those reasons as to why it happened.


I've lived in the same house and always accessed Rollbit from the accounts creation to this day using the same 2 IP addresses. (up until recently where I started logging in using both my original IP addresses and my School Computers IPs at UNLV) I still have access to one of the PCs I've used and can log in from there. All of these IP addresses that have been used to log onto my Rollbit account are from North Las Vegas, Nevada within a few miles of each other (excluding the school addresses but they are still from las vegas nevada)

During the Google Meeting I screenshared and quickly accessed the account where I deposited my funds from to Rollbit (which was from the website) and I verified by showing my face legal ID and my school ID if anyone were to do fraud or illegal laundering they wouldn't connect their real life self to it.

The $1.7k that wasn't sent from that FTX wallet address was also sent there back to that address. This money was also completely unrelated to the $2,498 that was deposited from that address onto Rollbits website, so I'm wondering even if this was the case, what about this money that was unrelated to the FTX wallet? Why did it have to be sent there too?

The company that used this address can verify that no money was stolen or anything either, I assume that they are willing to do a meeting with Razer as well to verify this.
 
The exodus address that I kept mentioning that was my main wallet () has been used since the start of the account on Rollbit during late 2021 and I still use it to this day in 2023. There are many past transactions both on my Rollbit account and the other website that I used to deposit to Rollbit where money is sent to my exodus address many times prior to the start of July 2022. I still have the history of this same transaction during July 2022 as well under this account which can be provided again. This alone should prove that I am the original owner of both the Rollbit and the company account from which the money was coming from to deposit at Rollbit. This should also prove that this exodus wallet address is an acceptable address to send and I'm willing to provide the proof as well to reshow.

Its just really messed up since I worked hard to earn this cash. I've literally done nothing wrong to deserve losing it and now this is a time where I need the money to pay back a friend and for college and I literally feel like im treated like a garbage bin from Rollbit after all this and honestly idk what to say anymore. I just truly hope that Razer is willing to realize that I'm just a college kid who needed this money and now that I can't get my hard earned money back it is just making my life alot more difficult here. It's already very stressful enough to be banned off their website and then banned off their discord(Benji said so, I just left the server after because I wasn't allowed to come back) after telling me that I was allowed to use their Discord but not their site since I cared about Rollbit but so far I feel like I'm being treated no better than someone who actually did laundering or gambled to earn their money illegally. I feel like I was robbed out of all the hard work and effort I made in not only earning the $5k+ but I also feel robbed out of the time I spent caring for the community and websites progression overall. When I was being investigated I thought I would be allowed to come back, so I was hyped to start investing in their NFTs as well but because of this I can't even do that either anymore without using a third party with "gas fees" (OpenSea or whatever). Before this whole experience I thought of Rollbit far better, whenever being reminded of Rollbit all I had was good times and memories with the website and community but after this whole incident I feel the exact opposite, it just feels so unreal like a nightmare man. And I was loyal here for years too and this happens to me of all people.



Dude bitcoin is literally raising so much right now I feel so fucking sad about this. I beg for this situation to be fixed man Sad
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[...] went through a Google Meeting with SmokeyLisa to ensure that It was me who was verifying and then the Rollbit Team did a deep investigation on my account and my money to ensure that I wasn’t laundering any money or breaking the rules of the website

[...]

I've give your explanation a thorough reading, the above part I snipped from the rest probably explains how and why this thing happened to you. In fact, I was going to ask about it in case you didn't explain it first.

IIRC, many casinos established a rule when someone was suspected to do an AML and prove their source of income [which are not from ML activities], they can only withdraw to their deposit address, let's call it a second layer of prevention against AML.

I'm not sure if Razer will do anything about it, given the fund already went through and it's a rule of AML, but I'll send Razer a PM, see if there's anything he can do.
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Please be sure to read the full thing before replying or else you may get lost reading it.

Apologies for being unclear. I deposited $2.5k using a companies hot wallet, and they were partnering with FTX. I was KYC locked when withdrawing after during July 2022 and during October 2023 (1 year and 3 months later) I verified KYC and went through a Google Meeting with SmokeyLisa to ensure that It was me who was verifying and then the Rollbit Team did a deep investigation on my account and my money to ensure that I wasn’t laundering any money or breaking the rules of the website

I was proven that I didn’t launder any money or exchange crypto or other rule breaking stuff. However, I was banned from Rollbits Website for previously logging in using rollbit.com instead of rollbot.com from over a year and a half ago which was something I’ve admitted to first thing. However, I did NOT earn my money from gambling, I’ve earned a lot of money back then and Rollbit was the foundation of it. I started buying and selling NFTs(which is allowed for USA) and later came to trade and buy and sell on other websites. This was why I was allowed to receive my money, we just had to prove that I wasn’t a launderer or thief or crypto exchanger, etc


Also please keep in mind I had an additional almost $1.7k on Rollbit prior to this.

The issue lies here. After their investigation was completed, Razer just randomly sent the money back to the depositing address. We had no discussion, No talk or confirmation to send it to this address. It just randomly happened. It’s just completely fucked up considering how long ago my last deposit was (1 year and 3 months) and the amount of money ($5,300 USD due to inflation. We should’ve had a discussion on where the money should’ve been sent to considering all of these factors. Also, I already proved to the Community Manager how this money was deposited days prior back in our google meeting session, so this should’ve been noted that I had no control of this address and that it was a companies address. In this same google meeting as well as when I answered one of their questions I’ve stated that my exodus wallet was my main address, and Ive stated within my answer that my main address was from exodus showing the address multiple too once via google meeting and once via chat. so this should’ve also been noted that this

I’ve contacted the company thinking I’d get my money back from there but they confirmed to me that they used FTX and that they can no longer access this wallet.


I really hope that everyone reading understands the same feelings as this is just completely unfair for me. I was going to use this money to pay back a friend, focus on college and continue my life but it’s now lost for literally no reason and it sucks that it happened like this

Rollbit has always been a great company. Despite what alot of people say here, NO they are not scammers. Rollbit is not a fraud site they are not evil. I’ve been with them for years and despite my recent experience I can still verify that they are great people. It just fucking sucks that I have to lose so much of my hard earned money for literally no reason randomly and I’m hoping that Razer can realize how fucked up this is and fix this situation.


Here is the lost address with my money on it, which you can view
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/33FVJ3A8FEEmbwCLgYbbZw6zFzyNon4NnD

If Razer responds, I’ll send him a private message with the proof that this can’t be accessed by anyone. I will make sure to record and refresh the  proof since screenshots can be faked.
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I wanna speak to Razer privately about my situation and if I feel ignored I’ll have to make a thread about it.
^Important, if you ever see this Razer please talk to me about this privately. I don’t want to make rollbit seem bad because you guys are great people and it is wrong to call you “scammers” and stuff like that
 
I don’t want to call Rollbit “scammers” as that’s the wrong word. They are amazing people and calling them scammers is wrong. However though, the owner of the website has sent my money to the “depositing address” which was an FTX address that can no longer be accessed by anyone I believe. This was my hard work and it’s lost now. I was KYC locked for 1 year and 3 months so I verified and then all this happens. I never told him to send it there, we had no discussion about where my Rollbit funds would be sent to, and considering it was over a year since the deposit he should’ve talked to me before doing this. Why did this not at least happen? It just all randomly happened after an investigation into my account was completed, but considering how old the last deposit was(1 year, 3 months) and the amount ($5,200+) considering all this, We should’ve had a discussion about which address to send the money to instead of just doing this completely randomly. I feel fucked over and sad since I was completely loyal to Rollbit from 2021 - 2023, two years. I’ve literally done nothing wrong to deserve losing my money and it’s just fucking tossed away like this. Cry Just why? I feel so fucking heartbroken and sad just why all this pain man. I’m in college and I have to worry about this like whyyy.

Walk me through this, you're withdrawing from your rollbit account to your FTX wallet because it sent back to your depositing address? And there wasn't an option to input the destination withdrawal address?
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I wanna speak to Razer privately about my situation


^Important, if you ever see this Razer, please I beg you to fix my situation. I needed this money to pay back a friend $2.6k and use to eventually pay for college. Since I value my Rollbit account just as much as my money, I already feel hurt well enough that my Rollbit account is banned but I'm aware that the moderation is my fault so it is what it is. But to have my money basically lost for no reason hurts so much. Rollbit was the starting foundation  of how I earned money online by buying and selling NFTs and later advanced to more buying and selling online and I was happy to be a loyal member of the community for 2 years and I'm still grateful that I found your site. Even then, my hard earned cash was basically lost for no reason, I didn't do anything wrong to deserve losing it and I genuinely feel awful about it thinking about it constantly as it could've really improved my life at this moment. Stressing about this situation every second of the day has affected my learning in college so I've been trying to get my mind off this as of now but it hasn't been working well. Please understand the importance of why I needed to get my money back. If I can’t get it back my life will be a lot more difficult and stressed for literally no reason. Please help me!

 
I don’t want to call Rollbit “scammers” as that’s the wrong word. They are amazing people and calling them scammers is wrong. However though, the owner of the website has sent my money to the “depositing address” which was an FTX address that can no longer be accessed by anyone I believe. This was my hard work and it’s lost now. I was KYC locked for 1 year and 3 months so I verified and then all this happens. I never told him to send it there, we had no discussion about where my Rollbit funds would be sent to, and considering it was over a year since the deposit he should’ve talked to me before doing this. Why did this not at least happen? It just all randomly happened after an investigation into my account was completed, but considering how old the last deposit was(1 year, 3 months) and the amount ($5,200+) considering all this, We should’ve had a discussion about which address to send the money to instead of just doing this completely randomly. I feel fucked over and sad since I was completely loyal to Rollbit from 2021 - 2023, two years. I’ve literally done nothing wrong to deserve losing my money and it’s just fucking tossed away like this. Cry Just why? I feel so fucking heartbroken and sad just why all this pain man. I’m in college and I have to worry about this like whyyy.
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