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legendary
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Edit: Just came to my awareness that you've made a scam accusation thread against Rollbit. As such, I recommend you to stop replying here and move all the discussion into the scam accusation thread so it can be more focused and help people track the development of your case easier. In reflect of this, I am also moving the original content and the query of this post to the accusation thread.
That's better to fixate discussion on that thread only he has opened up providing evidence in his support but the user has already provided with explanation that why the bet wad void and team has also responded to the same.But still this discussion should be moved there while having normal conversation about Rollbit here.
legendary
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Yes, I'm an asshole
Hey there,

Thanks for posting your issue here.

[...]

This is not a good response and does not answer anything.

You say incorrect pricing.

What was the correct line at the time? Please give me this answer. I have the right to know what was "correct price"


Why are you freerolling me and waiting for game to be finished? What is if it lost, I would have lost my original bets?

Yes $10k+ was lost because I won and those are my winnings. They were confiscated from me because of a false "incorrect odds" claim. I have shown you proof that other websites had the same odds as rollbit.

I'll be waiting for a detailed reply. thank you

Edit: Just came to my awareness that you've made a scam accusation thread against Rollbit. As such, I recommend you to stop replying here and move all the discussion into the scam accusation thread so it can be more focused and help people track the development of your case easier. In reflect of this, I am also moving the original content and the query of this post to the accusation thread.
newbie
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Hello

I have a HUGE PROBLEM with Rollbit and I hope someone can help me here.

I made 11 pre-game bets for a total of $10,200 risk at 2.0 and 2.1 odds. This was on the team ThunderTalk Gaming +1.5 vs Team WE in League of Legends LPL. These were all taken before the match started.

After the bets won, they were all cancelled by Rollbit and I did not receive my winnings. They did not pay me my $10k+ winnings.

The support said the odds were wrong and odds provider voided the bets.

This is a lie because I also took the same team match on Pinnacle for 2.03 and 2.12 and one other site for 2.05. So it is clear the odds were correct. I forwarded them screen shots and it is easy to see other books have similar lines.

I am already down over $20k on Rollbit so I have given them good action including casino.

This actions by Rollbit trying to scam me out of $10k+ is unprofessional and should be illegal.

I hope someone in forums can help me solve this issue because support has not helped me.

I will attach photos in next post if I can.

Hey there,

Thanks for posting your issue here.

I double checked this one with our sportsbook provider and they confirmed they made the correct decision.

Their decision falls in line with how they would generally deal with incorrect pricing, nothing unexpected.

No balance was lost as a result of this.

Thanks,
Razer

This is not a good response and does not answer anything.

You say incorrect pricing.

What was the correct line at the time? Please give me this answer. I have the right to know what was "correct price"


Why are you freerolling me and waiting for game to be finished? What is if it lost, I would have lost my original bets?

Yes $10k+ was lost because I won and those are my winnings. They were confiscated from me because of a false "incorrect odds" claim. I have shown you proof that other websites had the same odds as rollbit.

I'll be waiting for a detailed reply. thank you
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When problem show up some people immediately read the TOS which is bad action to do. They should read this while starting to register on their casino to avoid any issue and now this problem occur I think if I'm not wrong the accuser might be lose in this case since he violate the rules of the casino. But either way let see if there's settlement of the issue in good faith so that both parties can solve the issue and move on.
If you have signed up after agreeing to the all the terms mentioned there and raise concern afterwards how should they are responsible for it? They are not providing odds themselves and if they found it void they can cancel it but wait if they want to comment anything on the issue to provide better explanation.

If they just click the I understand button on TOS without reading it their complaints is irrelevant if they post something negative and try to destroy the casino reputation. We see something like that here and good thing that Rollbit always have an explanation to debunk this guys. This remind to other people to read the TOS this is always discussed in this forum so that they can save theirselves from any unwanted incidents where they didn't know that they already violate the rule of the particular casino.
Well, this is a common practice by people  especially on other websites that pose no risk to them such as social medias, online shopping or any website that has a registration and sometimes people apply that habit of now reading the TOS in casinos. We know that it is important to read the TOS because it can save our funds by abiding the TOS and to avoid problems on the casinos. I noticed that new gamblers are the one who doesnt care about the TOS as they see it no harm, though we can't blame casinos for doing proper actions against those who don't abide the their TOS since their customers agreed to it.

Before I didn't give much importance to the Tos, but when I've had bad experiences, it's somewhat annoying to read so much, because one is curious and the adranline is 1000% to play, it has happened to me a lot that in the good ones I don't know read enough, some people don't, I didn't do it once and when I thought I had won enough I realized I had to make a big wager and that limited me because when I calculated what I had to do it wasn't enough , and what I did was try and I did not succeed, what I achieved was to lose my deposit and what I had won, that is why I was very angry, the coughs are important so that something like this does not happen.
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Punters in the US took FanDuel to the cleaners after capitalising on a computer glitch that offered in-play odds of 750/1 on an NFL game. The Denver Broncos should have been priced at just 1/6 to beat the Oakland Raiders ahead of a 36-yard field goal, but the computer threw up astronomical odds instead. FanDuel, owned by Paddy Power Betfair, initially refused to pay out, but a disgruntled punter called Anthony Prince went public and the operator eventually relented after consulting with the state’s gambling regulators. Prince bet $110, so he scooped a tidy $82,000. “A 36-yard field goal has approximately an 85% chance of success, so the astronomical odds offered on something highly likely to occur was very obviously a pricing error,” said the firm. “These kinds of issues are rare, but they do happen. We want sports betting to be fun. So, this one’s on the house. We are paying out these erroneous tickets and wish the lucky customers well.” Read ESPN for more on this.
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legendary
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When problem show up some people immediately read the TOS which is bad action to do. They should read this while starting to register on their casino to avoid any issue and now this problem occur I think if I'm not wrong the accuser might be lose in this case since he violate the rules of the casino. But either way let see if there's settlement of the issue in good faith so that both parties can solve the issue and move on.
If you have signed up after agreeing to the all the terms mentioned there and raise concern afterwards how should they are responsible for it? They are not providing odds themselves and if they found it void they can cancel it but wait if they want to comment anything on the issue to provide better explanation.

If they just click the I understand button on TOS without reading it their complaints is irrelevant if they post something negative and try to destroy the casino reputation. We see something like that here and good thing that Rollbit always have an explanation to debunk this guys. This remind to other people to read the TOS this is always discussed in this forum so that they can save theirselves from any unwanted incidents where they didn't know that they already violate the rule of the particular casino.
Well, this is a common practice by people  especially on other websites that pose no risk to them such as social medias, online shopping or any website that has a registration and sometimes people apply that habit of now reading the TOS in casinos. We know that it is important to read the TOS because it can save our funds by abiding the TOS and to avoid problems on the casinos. I noticed that new gamblers are the one who doesnt care about the TOS as they see it no harm, though we can't blame casinos for doing proper actions against those who don't abide the their TOS since their customers agreed to it.
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from a legal point of view, the provider cannot cancel bets. another issue is that the provider cannot manage the site. the provider is only licensed to provide coef Wink
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When problem show up some people immediately read the TOS which is bad action to do. They should read this while starting to register on their casino to avoid any issue and now this problem occur I think if I'm not wrong the accuser might be lose in this case since he violate the rules of the casino. But either way let see if there's settlement of the issue in good faith so that both parties can solve the issue and move on.
If you have signed up after agreeing to the all the terms mentioned there and raise concern afterwards how should they are responsible for it? They are not providing odds themselves and if they found it void they can cancel it but wait if they want to comment anything on the issue to provide better explanation.

If they just click the I understand button on TOS without reading it their complaints is irrelevant if they post something negative and try to destroy the casino reputation. We see something like that here and good thing that Rollbit always have an explanation to debunk this guys. This remind to other people to read the TOS this is always discussed in this forum so that they can save theirselves from any unwanted incidents where they didn't know that they already violate the rule of the particular casino.
As confirmed by the team that bets were voided by the sportsbook provider so you can't do much about it as they have mentioned above in their terms about it as well so you can't shift blame on them so it's not cheating as well from their end but still people would be arguing about it that casino scams them for it.
legendary
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After the bets won, they were all cancelled by Rollbit and I did not receive my winnings. They did not pay me my $10k+ winnings.

The support said the odds were wrong and odds provider voided the bets.
If an odd provider finds something wrong with the odd provided or any other reasons like manipulation in the sports and such things, then they can void a bet or bets placed on that sport. It's hard to prove if that only happened with you.

Generally, the odds providers have business with many gambling sites. If you can bring some evidence from another gambling company that in the same event, in the same market that other gambling site did not void the bets especially the bets those were lost then you may have strong evidence.
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When problem show up some people immediately read the TOS which is bad action to do. They should read this while starting to register on their casino to avoid any issue and now this problem occur I think if I'm not wrong the accuser might be lose in this case since he violate the rules of the casino. But either way let see if there's settlement of the issue in good faith so that both parties can solve the issue and move on.
If you have signed up after agreeing to the all the terms mentioned there and raise concern afterwards how should they are responsible for it? They are not providing odds themselves and if they found it void they can cancel it but wait if they want to comment anything on the issue to provide better explanation.

If they just click the I understand button on TOS without reading it their complaints is irrelevant if they post something negative and try to destroy the casino reputation. We see something like that here and good thing that Rollbit always have an explanation to debunk this guys. This remind to other people to read the TOS this is always discussed in this forum so that they can save theirselves from any unwanted incidents where they didn't know that they already violate the rule of the particular casino.
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When problem show up some people immediately read the TOS which is bad action to do. They should read this while starting to register on their casino to avoid any issue and now this problem occur I think if I'm not wrong the accuser might be lose in this case since he violate the rules of the casino. But either way let see if there's settlement of the issue in good faith so that both parties can solve the issue and move on.
If you have signed up after agreeing to the all the terms mentioned there and raise concern afterwards how should they be responsible for it? They are not providing odds themselves and if they found it void they can cancel it but wait if they want to comment anything on the issue to provide a better explanation.
Most of those laws are included in the company TOS and the user should have been aware of that and tried to avoid any possible cases that could get your vet voided and These kinds of cases arise mostly from the games provider and not the casino directly.

But since he has been directed to pm one of the admin, we can wait for the response to have a clear understanding of what led to the voiding of those bets.
legendary
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When problem show up some people immediately read the TOS which is bad action to do. They should read this while starting to register on their casino to avoid any issue and now this problem occur I think if I'm not wrong the accuser might be lose in this case since he violate the rules of the casino. But either way let see if there's settlement of the issue in good faith so that both parties can solve the issue and move on.
If you have signed up after agreeing to the all the terms mentioned there and raise concern afterwards how should they are responsible for it? They are not providing odds themselves and if they found it void they can cancel it but wait if they want to comment anything on the issue to provide better explanation.
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You cannot void the bets after the winner is determined. If you want to void the bets, it needs to be done instantly. These were done after the game was finished.
You can void the bets if the line was an error. This was not an error line.
Well, I don't wanna dig too deep into your case because I don't have all the info. But something tells me there might have been some fishy stuff going on with that betting line, because your betting pattern raises some suspicions. You even said it yourself, "I made 11 pre-game bets..." on that same line, and even more on other platforms. You can't convince me that's just regular everyday betting. Just sayin'! Rollbit casino has the right to cancel or void bets if there's an issue with the betting line. But let's just wait and see what Rollbit Razer has to say about this.
I also do not agree with the fact that "a bet can't be voided after winner is determined", if there is something shady going on and the casino is not sure about it, they could very well void that bet, it all depends on what happened. If they feel like something major happened that needs to be addressed, they could literally stop you at withdraw part.

That means they let you gamble, they let you win, they credit your account with the money, but during withdraw period they realize something is off and not let you withdraw and freeze your account. That may sound like a horrible thing if you are innocent, but it also makes sense if you are guilty and get caught. They won't know if you are innocent or guilty until they check, that's the difference.
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Hello

I have a HUGE PROBLEM with Rollbit and I hope someone can help me here.

I made 11 pre-game bets for a total of $10,200 risk at 2.0 and 2.1 odds. This was on the team ThunderTalk Gaming +1.5 vs Team WE in League of Legends LPL. These were all taken before the match started.

After the bets won, they were all cancelled by Rollbit and I did not receive my winnings. They did not pay me my $10k+ winnings.

The support said the odds were wrong and odds provider voided the bets.

This is a lie because I also took the same team match on Pinnacle for 2.03 and 2.12 and one other site for 2.05. So it is clear the odds were correct. I forwarded them screen shots and it is easy to see other books have similar lines.

I am already down over $20k on Rollbit so I have given them good action including casino.

This actions by Rollbit trying to scam me out of $10k+ is unprofessional and should be illegal.

I hope someone in forums can help me solve this issue because support has not helped me.

I will attach photos in next post if I can.

Hey there,

Thanks for posting your issue here.

I double checked this one with our sportsbook provider and they confirmed they made the correct decision.

Their decision falls in line with how they would generally deal with incorrect pricing, nothing unexpected.

No balance was lost as a result of this.

Thanks,
Razer
legendary
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Yes, I'm an asshole
[...]

i saw your accusation in the scam section, so i went to see your post history and i noticed that you also made a post in their thread, which in a way was good, [...]

Only that goodboyshams has not raised any accusation on the scam section, which is why I continued to address their issue here and risking to derail the thread instead of asking them to keep the topic contained on their accusation thread.



Rollbit Razer was online today and managed to tackle an issue on the scam section. goodboyshams, Razer might mistook my message and thought I was referring to that thread instead of this one. I'll inform him once more
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As @holydarkness have already said he will make the team aware about it by sending them a PM so wait for it to hear from them to clear the matter but you should also be careful while signing up before you agree to the terms which might create a problem for you later.As explained above in their terms so you can't put a blame on them directly for your loss.
Brings me to the much talked about terms and conditions, how many people actually read that being actually clicking the submit button for the form they already filled?

Though some major issues do arise due to users not reading the terms of the casino before signing up, but then, there are some other issues that are totally outside the casinos terms and conditions, so this is to say that, even if a user reads the terms, it still might not stop the user from having issues sometimes.
And now that ball down to one thing,  are those not reading the terms not the same to pronounced the casino as unjust when their run into problem because most of the cases are not substantial enough to form a formidable case against the casino except for the few other that are accompanied by evidence to show that that casino actually blocked or subject to the player to undue principles that are outside their term and conditions.

So it is very important to read the casino terms of service before making your first deposit into the casino, to be able to abide by and avoid troubles along the way up.

When problem show up some people immediately read the TOS which is bad action to do. They should read this while starting to register on their casino to avoid any issue and now this problem occur I think if I'm not wrong the accuser might be lose in this case since he violate the rules of the casino. But either way let see if there's settlement of the issue in good faith so that both parties can solve the issue and move on.
legendary
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As @holydarkness have already said he will make the team aware about it by sending them a PM so wait for it to hear from them to clear the matter but you should also be careful while signing up before you agree to the terms which might create a problem for you later.As explained above in their terms so you can't put a blame on them directly for your loss.

I've did that, PM Razer about it. He'll address it once he's available

You cannot void the bets after the winner is determined. If you want to void the bets, it needs to be done instantly. These were done after the game was finished.
You can void the bets if the line was an error. This was not an error line.

Well, I don't wanna dig too deep into your case because I don't have all the info. But something tells me there might have been some fishy stuff going on with that betting line, because your betting pattern raises some suspicions. You even said it yourself, "I made 11 pre-game bets..." on that same line, and even more on other platforms. You can't convince me that's just regular everyday betting. Just sayin'! Rollbit casino has the right to cancel or void bets if there's an issue with the betting line. But let's just wait and see what Rollbit Razer has to say about this.


I am thinking the same, that the case need more context. Evidences given by goodboyshams is quite incomplete to conclude what actually happened, it'll be best to wait for either side to add more context and then determine from it if we could close it or move it to a new thread on scam accusation board to avoid derailing this ann.

Why is my betting suspicious? This is how i bet. Here is all my previous bets on rollbit and you can see this is how i always bet. they limit your max bet to a certain amount and then let you bet it again in minutes

https://ibb.co/cyd5b44
https://ibb.co/cTBm6FZ
https://ibb.co/2jkw40s
https://ibb.co/rGLXy92
https://ibb.co/Ld9wSxX
https://ibb.co/XpJmCMZ
https://ibb.co/ZxKb147
https://ibb.co/cyTxXLv
https://ibb.co/x59vhvG
https://ibb.co/RDrYHyJ

they never voided previous bets and you can see i am down overall.

still no reply from Razer

i saw your accusation in the scam section, so i went to see your post history and i noticed that you also made a post in their thread, which in a way was good, from what i can see in the pictures, you have been placing a lot of bets on the same game, that What you are doing is considered cheating in some casinos and they don't tolerate that kind of thing and ban the person. because that's what you're doing many people use this strategy to get around the limit placed by the casino on each bet

that's why in my opinion you will hardly win this case, although I didn't read their TOS about the betting rules, but I've seen cases where even not being in the casino's TOS, the casinos banned people who did what you did , the argument of the casinos was always the same, that this is a behavior that the casino could not tolerate, in short, I hope that I am wrong and that you manage to solve your problem, but I advise you not to do this in other casinos because you will be banned if do that way of betting
legendary
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[...]

still no reply from Razer

Because Razer is yet to be online since the last time I send him a PM, thus it's very likely that he haven't read my message informing him about this situation yet. He'll be online from time to time. Just wait for him to get back online.
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As @holydarkness have already said he will make the team aware about it by sending them a PM so wait for it to hear from them to clear the matter but you should also be careful while signing up before you agree to the terms which might create a problem for you later.As explained above in their terms so you can't put a blame on them directly for your loss.
Brings me to the much talked about terms and conditions, how many people actually read that being actually clicking the submit button for the form they already filled?

Though some major issues do arise due to users not reading the terms of the casino before signing up, but then, there are some other issues that are totally outside the casinos terms and conditions, so this is to say that, even if a user reads the terms, it still might not stop the user from having issues sometimes.
And now that ball down to one thing,  are those not reading the terms not the same to pronounced the casino as unjust when their run into problem because most of the cases are not substantial enough to form a formidable case against the casino except for the few other that are accompanied by evidence to show that that casino actually blocked or subject to the player to undue principles that are outside their term and conditions.

So it is very important to read the casino terms of service before making your first deposit into the casino, to be able to abide by and avoid troubles along the way up.
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