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Quote from: quasiaquam on August 19, 2022, 09:26:27 AM

What do you think - if RooBet ever adds BEP-20 network to its system, will it be possible to solve this problem?

I found your case interesting and I will keep watching your updates. Hope to hear more about it soon.

What I think about adding BSC network to solve the case? I doubt it. And for what I knew about Roobet, they will stick to the coins and network that are the most used and they probably want to just stick to few coins and network for deposits and withdrawals to eliminate some potential problem caused by too much payment method. Plus we do not know how much adding another ETH network will cost them, it might need some time, effort, and additional budget.

Therefore, I think adding a new network does not weigh the same with the problem which you have personally caused in the first place.

On the other hand, if ever Roobet decided to add new ETH network, which I doubt, "Will it solve the problem?" Definitely yes.

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Quote from: quasiaquam on August 19, 2022, 09:26:27 AM

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Quote from: Apocollapse on August 19, 2022, 08:26:57 AM

The thing is that the funds were not sent to a wrong ETH address but were sent using auwl different network. Because of this, I do not think that this phrase from their ToS is applicable to the case. Personally, I think that Roobet can help him out, however I do not have enough knowledge for the process itself so I have no comment of how much time and effort it can consume.

My suggestion is this:
Perhaps Roobet help the user with his concern, but make the user pay for the inconvenience he has caused for the company.

I think so too, wallet and address are the same. But anyway, I already wrote to them and also offered 50% of the total amount for help, but they haven't written anything yet.

What do you think - if RooBet ever adds BEP-20 network to its system, will it be possible to solve this problem?

They have that BEP20 network because the private on all ETH base blockchain is just the same. It will just gave them some risk on importing there recovery seed phrase on wallet like metamask just to access your which I really don’t know if they will risk importing there seed phrase on this kind of wallet while it contains a huge amount that might be exposed from hacking.

They might charge extra fee on handling this if they decided to help you so your offer might is good for them to take this case of yours.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on August 12, 2022, 10:33:26 AM

Even you're not seen the person, but doesn't mean is impossible.

Could be there has some people are winning 100,000$ in here, but is not active who know right ? In gambling can be happen. Just like BTC and other while people think can't reach 20,000$ or 50,000$

But the reality can reach that number, so nothing is imposible.

Yeah that could be the case as there are people who are wagering quite rare and are lucky on that particular bet only and win that much amount while some others who are active don't win anything so anything can happen and this is how gambling is supposed to work in the reality that anything is possible.Have seen people winning millions in just seconds and also losing it in seconds so it's game of money and luck.

The amount of people who win or lose huge amounts are rare which is why it's normal we do not see a lot of them here. I mean think about it, people who wager 100k are already very low, not many around, and people who may end up winning that bet is even rarer, and the amount of people on bitcointalk checking roobet topic is not a huge amount neither.

So, when you combine these two, not many could overlap. That’s why it's normal that winners or losers, people who ager a lot are rare and we may not see them here. It doesn't mean they do not exist; we will never know if they exist or not, we are agnostic about the existence of people who wager a lot basically Cheesy

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Quote from: vv181 on August 19, 2022, 09:22:50 AM

As noted above, I also don't think the snippet parts of TOS are applicable to you. As does, I can't find any statement on TOS regarding sending on a wrong chain being stated.

Yes, the deposit requirements may not correlate from the complaint sending to different chains but according to part of the writing the TOS emphasizes that anyone should never make a mistake and must carefully send to the right address and "probably" also with the right chain.

But how did he take the deposit address on the gambling site, he should have confirmed the address and chain because not all different chains get support for deposits to gambling platforms.

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Quote from: Eureka_07 on August 19, 2022, 09:01:22 AM

Quote from: Apocollapse on August 19, 2022, 08:26:57 AM

The thing is that the funds were not sent to a wrong ETH address but were sent using auwl different network. Because of this, I do not think that this phrase from their ToS is applicable to the case. Personally, I think that Roobet can help him out, however I do not have enough knowledge for the process itself so I have no comment of how much time and effort it can consume.

My suggestion is this:
Perhaps Roobet help the user with his concern, but make the user pay for the inconvenience he has caused for the company.

I think so too, wallet and address are the same. But anyway, I already wrote to them and also offered 50% of the total amount for help, but they haven't written anything yet.

What do you think - if RooBet ever adds BEP-20 network to its system, will it be possible to solve this problem?

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Quote from: quasiaquam on August 19, 2022, 02:28:13 AM

I wrote to them several times, but they just copy-paste the same text - When the BEP-20 network is touched, they cannot help because the entire system is automated.

That's why I'm writing here because maybe someone from here works at RooBet from the technical side and can help..

As noted above, I also don't think the snippet parts of TOS are applicable to you. As does, I can't find any statement on TOS regarding sending on a wrong chain being stated.

You should try to contact their service centre again, argue and ask for inquiries about recovering the funds, and if they reject it again, try to ask specifically which part of TOS make it improbable.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on August 19, 2022, 08:26:57 AM

The thing is that the funds were not sent to a wrong ETH address but were sent using auwl different network. Because of this, I do not think that this phrase from their ToS is applicable to the case. Personally, I think that Roobet can help him out, however I do not have enough knowledge for the process itself so I have no comment of how much time and effort it can consume.

My suggestion is this:
Perhaps Roobet help the user with his concern, but make the user pay for the inconvenience he has caused for the company.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on August 19, 2022, 02:55:04 AM

because in this case Roobet or any in their part cannot Help you recover your missed handled amount .

and the receiving wallet is what you need to contact for at least small chance or returns.

This case has been written on Roobet TOS, so I don't expect Roobet will send back the money. This fault is on the gambler and before using this casino, anyone must agree and understand about the TOS first. I wouldn't blame Roobet since almost of any centralized party will also have same rule, even if you mistakenly send your coin to your friend, there's no guarantee your friend will send back your coin.

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You may deposit funds by sending Ethereum or Bitcoin, or Litecoin to the wallet address shown in your profile. Please make sure to send Ethereum only to the Ethereum address and Bitcoin to the Bitcoin address, and Litecoin to the Litecoin address; company cannot credit you any Roobidos if you send your funds to the wrong address.
https://roobet.com/termsandconditions

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Quote from: quasiaquam on August 19, 2022, 02:28:13 AM

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I think your chances of getting your funds back are very small or I could say impossible, it's not that Roobet has no intention of returning your funds but the security system they have to maintain and this is a lesson for anyone to be very careful when sending funds, even if that happens. in exchange they will do the same, maybe you can try again to apply for a refund but if they keep saying no then you won't get it

I wrote to them several times, but they just copy-paste the same text - When the BEP-20 network is touched, they cannot help because the entire system is automated.

That's why I'm writing here because maybe someone from here works at RooBet from the technical side and can help..

but looks like you missed or ignore the first reply in your post says this

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Quote from: quasiaquam on August 18, 2022, 11:11:28 AM

If someone helps to solve this problem, I will transfer 50% of the total amount for the help.

They are the only ones who could really help since they do have the private key of that ETH wallet recieving address.

Basing up on this article.
https://bscscan.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/67000229445-how-to-recover-erc20-tokens-sent-to-ethereum-address-as-bep20-

If you have accidentally withdrawn ERC20 tokens as BEP20 token to your Ethereum wallet address, you will be able to recover them by connecting the receiving wallet to BNB Smart Chain (BSC) and send the BEP20 tokens back into Binance then withdraw them as ERC20.

Just an example. So this means only Roobet could help out on this regard.

because in this case Roobet or any in their part cannot Help you recover your missed handled amount .

and the receiving wallet is what you need to contact for at least small chance or returns.

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I think your chances of getting your funds back are very small or I could say impossible, it's not that Roobet has no intention of returning your funds but the security system they have to maintain and this is a lesson for anyone to be very careful when sending funds, even if that happens. in exchange they will do the same, maybe you can try again to apply for a refund but if they keep saying no then you won't get it

I wrote to them several times, but they just copy-paste the same text - When the BEP-20 network is touched, they cannot help because the entire system is automated.

That's why I'm writing here because maybe someone from here works at RooBet from the technical side and can help..

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Quote from: Apocollapse on August 15, 2022, 09:44:34 AM

I find there's a promotion by Roobet for UFC betting if the fight goes to distance insurance in UFC 278 [1] So if your bet are loss and the fight goes for 5 rounds or via decision, your bet will be refunded $10-$50. I think it's worth to try, based on my experience usually main card are higher chance that the fight goes to distance since both of them are stronger, while the prelims and early prelims are full of short fight e.g. ended via KO or subs.

[1] https://live-lp.roobet.com/fight-goes-the-distance/

UFC 278 will attract the attention of many bettors which is why many bookmakers provide promotions to attract many fans including Roobet

Quote from: quasiaquam on August 18, 2022, 11:11:28 AM

I wrote to their support to connect to the wallet and send the money back. But they replied that the entire system is automated and they can't help.

Is there really no way out in this case? if these wallets are assigned to some exchange, then the exchange could send the money back?

If someone helps to solve this problem, I will transfer 50% of the total amount for the help.

I think your chances of getting your funds back are very small or I could say impossible, it's not that Roobet has no intention of returning your funds but the security system they have to maintain and this is a lesson for anyone to be very careful when sending funds, even if that happens. in exchange they will do the same, maybe you can try again to apply for a refund but if they keep saying no then you won't get it

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Quote from: quasiaquam on August 18, 2022, 11:11:28 AM

If someone helps to solve this problem, I will transfer 50% of the total amount for the help.

They are the only ones who could really help since they do have the private key of that ETH wallet recieving address.

Basing up on this article.
https://bscscan.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/67000229445-how-to-recover-erc20-tokens-sent-to-ethereum-address-as-bep20-

If you have accidentally withdrawn ERC20 tokens as BEP20 token to your Ethereum wallet address, you will be able to recover them by connecting the receiving wallet to BNB Smart Chain (BSC) and send the BEP20 tokens back into Binance then withdraw them as ERC20.

Just an example. So this means only Roobet could help out on this regard.

quasiaquam

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Hello, I have an interesting situation with RooBet.

I made a deposit by mistake to wrong network. I sent 3.1ETH from my metamask wallet bsc network to their ETH wallet, now the money is hanging in their wallet but on bsc network.

I am attaching all the data:

https://bscscan.com/tx/0xc325c9ed8f8725c983d2518a91bae3106821e39646a17676920f6e4ae613dc49

https://bscscan.com/token/0x2170ed0880ac9a755fd29b2688956bd959f933f8?a=0x8704dc7a2a6eb0330f2aaad9cb2ae8053b52f2d1

I wrote to their support to connect to the wallet and send the money back. But they replied that the entire system is automated and they can't help.

Is there really no way out in this case? if these wallets are assigned to some exchange, then the exchange could send the money back?

If someone helps to solve this problem, I will transfer 50% of the total amount for the help.

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Quote from: FanEagle on August 16, 2022, 04:00:41 PM

That's usually just a situation where people would get their money back if they only wager a certain amount. I still think that it's quite fun, because UFC doesn't go to decision that commonly, it's a bit more harsh and it's not as soft gloves like boxing, which we all know doesn't go to distance all the time neither, but UFC doesn't a lot quicker, we have like 3-5 minute rounds because of this based on how terrible it could get, people literally get knocked out and stay in hospital for so long there.

Hence, this type of stuff is a promotion that they will not have to pay a lot, and it's not too grand, if it was they would have made a big deal out of it.

I understand, but we should also consider the total rounds of the both sports. UFC only have maximum of 5 rounds while boxing have maximum of 12 rounds, in UFC most fighters not ended in decision because they're hit by heavy punch and they will sleep. While boxing there's few weakness which boxers usually try to hit it, e.g. liver, chin etc. I tend to agree UFC do have less chance to win via decision than boxing, since winning via submission are often occur than draw in boxing.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on August 12, 2022, 10:33:26 AM

Quote from: FanEagle on August 10, 2022, 01:33:29 PM

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Even you're not seen the person, but doesn't mean is impossible.

Could be there has some people are winning 100,000$ in here, but is not active who know right ? In gambling can be happen. Just like BTC and other while people think can't reach 20,000$ or 50,000$

But the reality can reach that number, so nothing is imposible.

Yeah that could be the case as there are people who are wagering quite rare and are lucky on that particular bet only and win that much amount while some others who are active don't win anything so anything can happen and this is how gambling is supposed to work in the reality that anything is possible.Have seen people winning millions in just seconds and also losing it in seconds so it's game of money and luck.

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Quote from: Taskford on August 10, 2022, 05:15:00 AM

the situation in easy ways but for other who doesn't understand or skeptical about this because they are worried, maybe this kind of issuance still not good at them that's why they need to slowly accept the fact that this feature will come mandatory to them on any platform because they are dealing with money. So for now its good to practice and give a trust especially if the casino is performing so well and been trusted by many people.

Many will not understand your point because there’s still a lot of Casino out there that doesn’t required KYC upon registration and withdrawal of balance that’s many user will still insist that mandatory KYC requirements is not logical even though it’s what required by the Roobet license. I agree that the day of mandatory KYC is near to come since even DeFi is now being target by some country government to be KYC.

We can’t do anything if the law already insist on it and they have the right to do it because of the tax involved.

it's a game of cat and mouse
there'll always be options for all kinds of users
but I agree there's a big attack on privacy happening right now so the decentralized and private options may become rarer in the future
we'll see

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on August 16, 2022, 10:38:15 AM

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on August 03, 2022, 12:50:15 PM

I think that when there is a person who has a criminal record, they should not pay so much attention to it, because it does not have much to do with online casinos, I think that all online casinos are interested in them playing on their platforms, putting in money and being able to do good management within them, I think that the other thing is the personal life of each one, and I do not think that a casino cares much about that. I know that the origin of funds is important but when it comes to FIAT money and those that most influence that's what banks are for, in crypto they skip all these things, giving the origin of funds in crypto, BTC, ETH or another I think would not make sense.
That is why some of the users always look for those casinos that provide privacy security and anonymity.

I have once done some research about the major reason why KYC was introduced in the casino and the answer is to protect the company from getting in trouble with the law since some people use them as a way to tint their stolen or illicit crypto so I believe casinos are not after users criminal but they are after keeping their record clean with the law.

If it is that way, it seems to me that it is something that is very good, in fact many people can use KYC as a way of not hiding what it is, however now it is that there are these types of demands in casinos, they seek to be as transparent as possible and despite the fact that it is something that people do not like, because most people do not like to give their data, it could be said that if the casino meets that requirement and that it has some seniority and if not it has negative reviews by the DT users of the forum it is something that is worth trusting, at least I see it that way, the KYC will always be an additional problem in crypto, because precisely the BTC was created so that people would not give their data or things like that, but in the case of casinos, the regulations and requirements are something else.

I agree with what you said. Bitcoin was created to be pseudonymous but I believe we already understand that change is always constant especially when it's an innovative setting if we don't want to lie to ourselves and I also believe we ought to foresee this happening in the cryptocurrency space if the ecosystem is getting more traffic or the institution is involved.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on August 15, 2022, 09:44:34 AM

I find there's a promotion by Roobet for UFC betting if the fight goes to distance insurance in UFC 278 [1] So if your bet are loss and the fight goes for 5 rounds or via decision, your bet will be refunded $10-$50. I think it's worth to try, based on my experience usually main card are higher chance that the fight goes to distance since both of them are stronger, while the prelims and early prelims are full of short fight e.g. ended via KO or subs.

That's usually just a situation where people would get their money back if they only wager a certain amount. I still think that it's quite fun, because UFC doesn't go to decision that commonly, it's a bit more harsh and it's not as soft gloves like boxing, which we all know doesn't go to distance all the time neither, but UFC doesn't a lot quicker, we have like 3-5 minute rounds because of this based on how terrible it could get, people literally get knocked out and stay in hospital for so long there.

Hence, this type of stuff is a promotion that they will not have to pay a lot, and it's not too grand, if it was they would have made a big deal out of it.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on August 15, 2022, 09:44:34 AM

I find there's a promotion by Roobet for UFC betting if the fight goes to distance insurance in UFC 278 [1] So if your bet are loss and the fight goes for 5 rounds or via decision, your bet will be refunded $10-$50. I think it's worth to try, based on my experience usually main card are higher chance that the fight goes to distance since both of them are stronger, while the prelims and early prelims are full of short fight e.g. ended via KO or subs.

[1] https://live-lp.roobet.com/fight-goes-the-distance/

Thanks for posting it here. That's an interesting promotion as the main card is quite often a close call and can end in a jury decision. It is similar to the promotion that Stakes has but nice to see that Roobet now also offers it!

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on August 03, 2022, 12:50:15 PM

I think that when there is a person who has a criminal record, they should not pay so much attention to it, because it does not have much to do with online casinos, I think that all online casinos are interested in them playing on their platforms, putting in money and being able to do good management within them, I think that the other thing is the personal life of each one, and I do not think that a casino cares much about that. I know that the origin of funds is important but when it comes to FIAT money and those that most influence that's what banks are for, in crypto they skip all these things, giving the origin of funds in crypto, BTC, ETH or another I think would not make sense.
That is why some of the users always look for those casinos that provide privacy security and anonymity.

I have once done some research about the major reason why KYC was introduced in the casino and the answer is to protect the company from getting in trouble with the law since some people use them as a way to tint their stolen or illicit crypto so I believe casinos are not after users criminal but they are after keeping their record clean with the law.

If it is that way, it seems to me that it is something that is very good, in fact many people can use KYC as a way of not hiding what it is, however now it is that there are these types of demands in casinos, they seek to be as transparent as possible and despite the fact that it is something that people do not like, because most people do not like to give their data, it could be said that if the casino meets that requirement and that it has some seniority and if not it has negative reviews by the DT users of the forum it is something that is worth trusting, at least I see it that way, the KYC will always be an additional problem in crypto, because precisely the BTC was created so that people would not give their data or things like that, but in the case of casinos, the regulations and requirements are something else.

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