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Quote from: Text on June 10, 2022, 06:43:33 PM

Quote from: serjent05 on June 10, 2022, 04:37:06 PM

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I think it has never been mandatory unless we won a huge amount that requires manual verification and KYC.

Yes, it was. Before I take a rest on gambling and left the forum for a while. Level 1 verification has been required before you can fully access the site. After you logged in, it shows up immediately and you can't even browse the page. But now it's gone and verification to them now I guess is only for huge bettors who make in and out funds with large sums.

For your reference: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.56856020

If thats true then its a good news. Because the level 1 kyc is implemented suddenly that players cant play if you dont comply. Maybe for the gamblers who leave the site before because of this requirement can also come back again without the need of complying to level 1 kyc.

But I wonder if that is still the case for new registered user?

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Quote from: Text on June 10, 2022, 06:43:33 PM

Quote from: serjent05 on June 10, 2022, 04:37:06 PM

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I think it has never been mandatory unless we won a huge amount that requires manual verification and KYC.

Yes, it was. Before I take a rest on gambling and left the forum for a while. Level 1 verification has been required before you can fully access the site. After you logged in, it shows up immediately and you can't even browse the page. But now it's gone and verification to them now I guess is only for huge bettors who make in and out funds with large sums.

For your reference: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.56856020

The important thing is that it is not mandatory now, and that is quite enjoyable and usable, some casinos are quite rigorous with their rules and do not give space or dug for something else, I think that Roobet is doing things very well, it is a casino who, as Player one feels comfortable and safe, he is also positioned in one of the casinos who trust here more, and the reputation in this case is everything, at least I as a player I think this is the best, our money here is Sure, in addition that in the jeugos offered by one can have fun with the security that if a retreat is made quickly.

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Quote from: serjent05 on June 10, 2022, 04:37:06 PM

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I think it has never been mandatory unless we won a huge amount that requires manual verification and KYC.

Yes, it was. Before I take a rest on gambling and left the forum for a while. Level 1 verification has been required before you can fully access the site. After you logged in, it shows up immediately and you can't even browse the page. But now it's gone and verification to them now I guess is only for huge bettors who make in and out funds with large sums.

For your reference: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.56856020

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Quote from: Johnyz on June 10, 2022, 03:48:34 PM

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Quote from: Text on June 10, 2022, 10:43:46 AM

Good to know that Level 1 verification in Roobet is not mandatory anymore, I thought it was still. Just visited the site again after 1,2,3... 11 months.

How do you know that it is no longer mandatory? I mean did you find a statement in the terms or directly ask to their live support.
As far as I remember Roobet requires KYC level one because of the rules of their gambling license, if true, this is no longer mandatory then this is good news, but those who have done KYC will dislike it a bit.

It is mandatory before if you login to your account, the KYC requirements will occur but maybe when OP login again, there’s no question anymore and that could be his conclusion that level 1 KYC is not needed anymore. Well, I already comply with this one so its hard to check but if its already lifted then this is a good news to those who don’t want this, they can comeback now and try Roobet again. To those who comply with the level 1 KYC, you can’t do anything about it anymore but at least we are still secured.

I wonder why I am able to play in Roobet even without doing KYC level 1. I had been a user since Dec. 2020. I don't experience any trouble with deposit and withdrawal transactions. You can check this screenshot as proof.

I think it has never been mandatory unless we won a huge amount that requires manual verification and KYC.

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Quote from: Strongkored on June 10, 2022, 02:51:29 PM

Quote from: Text on June 10, 2022, 10:43:46 AM

Good to know that Level 1 verification in Roobet is not mandatory anymore, I thought it was still. Just visited the site again after 1,2,3... 11 months.

How do you know that it is no longer mandatory? I mean did you find a statement in the terms or directly ask to their live support.
As far as I remember Roobet requires KYC level one because of the rules of their gambling license, if true, this is no longer mandatory then this is good news, but those who have done KYC will dislike it a bit.

It is mandatory before if you login to your account, the KYC requirements will occur but maybe when OP login again, there’s no question anymore and that could be his conclusion that level 1 KYC is not needed anymore. Well, I already comply with this one so its hard to check but if its already lifted then this is a good news to those who don’t want this, they can comeback now and try Roobet again. To those who comply with the level 1 KYC, you can’t do anything about it anymore but at least we are still secured.

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Quote from: Text on June 10, 2022, 10:43:46 AM

Good to know that Level 1 verification in Roobet is not mandatory anymore, I thought it was still. Just visited the site again after 1,2,3... 11 months.

How do you know that it is no longer mandatory? I mean did you find a statement in the terms or directly ask to their live support.
As far as I remember Roobet requires KYC level one because of the rules of their gambling license, if true, this is no longer mandatory then this is good news, but those who have done KYC will dislike it a bit.

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Good to know that Level 1 verification in Roobet is not mandatory anymore, I thought it was still. Just visited the site again after 1,2,3... 11 months.

Just noticed that they don't have a scroll bar in a web version, can't browse the site properly cause my mouse scroll wheel is malfunctioning... I am usually on a mobile device, that's why a little different, coincidentally I'm using my laptop now.

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Quote from: Lakai01 on June 06, 2022, 06:56:36 AM

Quote from: arwin100 on June 06, 2022, 05:54:23 AM

Compare to any other casino which is not been tested over the years I can also say that its quite safe to provide KYC in roobet because their reputation is good assurance that they will not rug or endanger us by leaking our data's in any forums or anywhere.

Even if I trust Roobet 100% and consider my data "safe" at Roobet, this is by no means a guarantee that the data cannot be stolen. There are a lot of possibilities what could happen without Roobet being able to take countermeasures, e.g. a deliberate leak of an administrator.

What I want to say is that even if the reputation of a casino is good, you should never assume that the data is safe and nothing can happen to the data.

We know that the roobet already running for a long time and even though they require their users for the KYC it is not a mandatory thing that's why most of the users love to play in roobet also they have a lot of events get in to their players, regarding with the credibility as I said they gain the reputation of the users so of course they don't break it too. If that's the concern i guess they need to make a prompt message regarding Data privacy.

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Quote from: Lakai01 on June 09, 2022, 06:57:55 AM

However, since Roobet is not based in the EU, I do not know if this also applies here.

If I'm not mistaken no matter where the business is located, if they serve EU customers, they must adhere to the GDPR law. If they fail to do so, they will be fined.

As we can see within the entirety of Roobet privacy policy, they also mention GDPR which basically tells us that Roobet does follow what have must be done:

Quote from: https://roobet.com/privacypolicy

GDPR Privacy
Legal Basis for Processing Personal Data under GDPR
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Your Rights Under the GDPR
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Exercising of Your GDPR Data Protection Rights
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Quote from: aysg76 on June 08, 2022, 04:01:39 AM

Maybe end to end encryption channels are used but if the government are interested in having those data they will impose many restrictions in order to have that data but i think Roobet has previously also stated that your data is safe with them and not shared with anyone.Security protocol must be followed but we should be careful at our end also.

When you sent and submitted your identity documents for KYC, you should accept that your identity documeng lost forever. It can be leaked or breached anytime in future. You can not control that and even a platform on which you submit your document can not control it completely too.

So afford personal data breach before you do KYC. A good platform will invest into security which is helpful to prevent data breach. However, they can not secure their database 100%.

That the future part is the scary thing. I could give it, and they could check it or inform anyone they have to, but then they could delete it and it would be much better. If they save it, and then keep on having it, who knows when it will be leaked or if it will be leaked? You will live with the fear that your KYC could be leaked anytime in the future, maybe 5 maybe 10 years down the line?

So that is the bad part, get it but delete it after you used it, that would be better. I guess there is a law that requires them to save it and store it somewhere in case it is ever needed again in the future, for people who are innocent now, but could commit crime later on.

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Quote from: Lakai01 on June 09, 2022, 06:57:55 AM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on June 08, 2022, 11:52:38 AM

the safest way would probably use a system where data is stored briefly in a cryptographic way and deleted after verification
but I bet most of the websites store it indefinitely.

The regulations I know about KYC (and which are valid in the EU, for example) require exactly that, yes. Companies like Roobet are not allowed to do the checks themselves, but KYC is done by an external and certified company. However, since Roobet is not based in the EU, I do not know if this also applies here.
But the main thing is: the data would have to be deleted immediately after the review and may not be kept. Whether anyone adheres to this is of course another question ...

But i don't think so that data is deleted immediately as most of them tend to save it for some period in their database for some verifications don't know but this issue has been raised beforehand also.The data leak chances are definitely there if third party is at breach whosoever do this task based in EU so your personal information is at risk there but some more secured ways should be there.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on June 08, 2022, 11:52:38 AM

the safest way would probably use a system where data is stored briefly in a cryptographic way and deleted after verification
but I bet most of the websites store it indefinitely.

The regulations I know about KYC (and which are valid in the EU, for example) require exactly that, yes. Companies like Roobet are not allowed to do the checks themselves, but KYC is done by an external and certified company. However, since Roobet is not based in the EU, I do not know if this also applies here.
But the main thing is: the data would have to be deleted immediately after the review and may not be kept. Whether anyone adheres to this is of course another question ...

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Quote from: Lakai01 on June 07, 2022, 10:03:25 PM

Quote from: vv181 on June 06, 2022, 07:05:12 PM

If it doesn't have any SSL/TLS or only HTTP, not HTTPS, which is more known. Then anyone who monitors the network can see whatever data is being sent, including ISP, governments, NSA, Hacker, or any adversaries you can name.

As far as I know, highly sensitive data may only be transmitted between different parties via extra-secured data channels, and in addition to HTTPS - which is of course mandatory - separate encryption and certificates are also used or, in extreme cases, must even be transmitted offline.

For sure, in an extreme case, if I'm not mistaken either CIA or NSA have a private network which is inaccessible to the world but only between departments. And offline storage is also plausible, that is what some of us have been doing when using cold storage wallets.

To not make the term any data too broad, merely using TLS/SSL(HTTPS) to transmit user personal data to the server(Roobet&3rd-party) is safe enough.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on June 07, 2022, 06:00:31 PM

This has to do with the issue of acceptance and it is very common, I know that the issue of privacy and anonymity is something that many always want to keep, what happened is that in Rootbet as in any casino platform they have their rules and it is That is why the T&C are so important and infallible to read, which, sometimes we do not read because we want to play quickly on the platform to enjoy the games, and when a certain security scheme needs to be passed, it is when we run into a level of KYC, which is necessary for them, that's where we have to have the maturity to do it or just accept that we can't have more fun here, it's a matter of acceptance, well that's how I see it.

In the end, suspensions often occur due to user carelessness when registering. If dealing with KYC is indeed hard to avoid, now it is back to the gambler whether he reads all the rules or not. Like most people here, people tend to focus on the tantalizing game and don't pay attention to the rules as a whole. It is a bad tradition to continue to complicate gambling because of the negligence of the players. Casinos have followed the rules to operate safely, although crypto gambling is now tied to KYC which is quite contradictory. But again, there are plenty of options to choose from if you're not willing to provide data.

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Quote from: serjent05 on June 07, 2022, 11:48:49 PM

if we happen to be a user of the platform listed here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_data_breaches
https://www.upguard.com/blog/biggest-data-breaches

I don't think our personal data is still safe. Breaches and hacks happen even with the most secure platform. So I think we shouldn't be concerned about KYC and possible data leak if ever someone successfully hacked the Roobet database. As far as we are concerned, I believe Roobet will safeguard its users' data. They are in a business and they don't want to lose any clients due to the data hacking incident. But let us understand, as businesses complying with the authority's regulation, they must implement the needed procedure so that they can operate in peace. It is either we cooperate or stop playing, the choice is ours to make, yes?

the safest way would probably use a system where data is stored briefly in a cryptographic way and deleted after verification
but I bet most of the websites store it indefinitely.

there's a third option for them: to decide not to comply and go decentralized / anonymous teams, but of course they'll end up losing market share if opting to go this way.

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Quote from: aysg76 on June 08, 2022, 04:01:39 AM

Maybe end to end encryption channels are used but if the government are interested in having those data they will impose many restrictions in order to have that data but i think Roobet has previously also stated that your data is safe with them and not shared with anyone.Security protocol must be followed but we should be careful at our end also.

When you sent and submitted your identity documents for KYC, you should accept that your identity documeng lost forever. It can be leaked or breached anytime in future. You can not control that and even a platform on which you submit your document can not control it completely too.

So afford personal data breach before you do KYC. A good platform will invest into security which is helpful to prevent data breach. However, they can not secure their database 100%.

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Quote from: Lakai01 on June 07, 2022, 10:03:25 PM

Quote from: vv181 on June 06, 2022, 07:05:12 PM

If it doesn't have any SSL/TLS or only HTTP, not HTTPS, which is more known. Then anyone who monitors the network can see whatever data is being sent, including ISP, governments, NSA, Hacker, or any adversaries you can name.

As far as I know, highly sensitive data may only be transmitted between different parties via extra-secured data channels, and in addition to HTTPS - which is of course mandatory - separate encryption and certificates are also used or, in extreme cases, must even be transmitted offline. I don't know exactly what this looks like at Roobet, but it would of course be very interesting.

Maybe end to end encryption channels are used but if the government are interested in having those data they will impose many restrictions in order to have that data but i think Roobet has previously also stated that your data is safe with them and not shared with anyone.Security protocol must be followed but we should be careful at our end also.

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Quote from: Haunebu on June 08, 2022, 12:33:35 AM

Quote from: serjent05 on June 07, 2022, 11:48:49 PM

I don't think our personal data is still safe. Breaches and hacks happen even with the most secure platform. So I think we shouldn't be concerned about KYC and possible data leak if ever someone successfully hacked the Roobet database.

Your reasoning makes zero sense. You are basically saying that we should submit our KYC since data breaches happen even to the most secure platforms. Silly logic.

Don't cut the sentence

Take my reply as a whole because it may lead to misunderstanding. And yes it makes a silly logic if you make it look that way. Another thing, we should submit our KYC if we intend to play in a platform that requires it.

Quote from: serjent05 on June 07, 2022, 11:48:49 PM

if we happen to be a user of the platform listed here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_data_breaches
https://www.upguard.com/blog/biggest-data-breaches

I don't think our personal data is still safe. Breaches and hacks happen even with the most secure platform. So I think we shouldn't be concerned about KYC and possible data leak if ever someone successfully hacked the Roobet database. As far as we are concerned, I believe Roobet will safeguard its users' data. They are in a business and they don't want to lose any clients due to the data hacking incident. But let us understand, as businesses complying with the authority's regulation, they must implement the needed procedure so that they can operate in peace. It is either we cooperate or stop playing, the choice is ours to make, yes?

This reply is implying that if you are a registered user of a site that has been data breached, and your personal data had been gathered, it doesn't make any change if another site that has your data got hacked again. Since the hacker already had your personal data on the first hack. While giving confidence in the next sentence that Roobet will safeguard its users' information

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Quote from: Taskford on June 07, 2022, 06:25:32 PM

Those legit platform has been required to pass a KYC requirements to their users because they are dealing money with them that's why its better that now we should trust platforms ask KYC especially they are old enough and been tusted by so many years of existence. Most provably Roobet are protecting their users privacy as well their business so I guess we are in low risk for submitting what roobet require to us.

All legit platforms don't require KYC in any form currently. Most of them request KYC only if they detect something suspicious related to your account or if you win big. On the other hand, Roobet made it mandatory while registering which sucks to be honest.

I agree that the risk is low due to Roobet's top-notch security protocols, but it's still there and it isn't impossible to hack them or anything.

Quote from: serjent05 on June 07, 2022, 11:48:49 PM

I don't think our personal data is still safe. Breaches and hacks happen even with the most secure platform. So I think we shouldn't be concerned about KYC and possible data leak if ever someone successfully hacked the Roobet database.

Your reasoning makes zero sense. You are basically saying that we should submit our KYC since data breaches happen even to the most secure platforms. Silly logic.

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if we happen to be a user of the platform listed here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_data_breaches
https://www.upguard.com/blog/biggest-data-breaches

I don't think our personal data is still safe. Breaches and hacks happen even with the most secure platform. So I think we shouldn't be concerned about KYC and possible data leak if ever someone successfully hacked the Roobet database. As far as we are concerned, I believe Roobet will safeguard its users' data. They are in a business and they don't want to lose any clients due to the data hacking incident. But let us understand, as businesses complying with the authority's regulation, they must implement the needed procedure so that they can operate in peace. It is either we cooperate or stop playing, the choice is ours to make, yes?

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