Topic: Ross Ulbricht is coming home in January! (Read 1919 times)

These irresponsible actions represent a doubt on the credibility of the entire judicial system and render it completely ineffective. If some consider Ross to be unjustly punished and not deserving of a harsher sentence than the years he spent in prison (I disagree with this view), pardoning Biden's son is to some extent a crime because he is accused of financial crimes that have not yet been decided.

Anyone accused of financial cases that are equal to or less dangerous than the charges against Biden's son has the logical right to demand a pardon as well. The problem, as I explained earlier, is that there is no party demanding a review of the issuance of pardons in this manner that only serves the president's personal interests and not the interests of the country.

It is pretty crazy that he ended up getting pardoned by a US President! You definitely can't blame the POTUS for keeping to his campaign promise. I bet you there will be a movie made about Ross and the silk road at some point in the future. I wonder what Ross will do next, with this new found freedom and lots of $$$$ and BTC

And what Biden did could affect their whole party as he really made a bad decision on end point of his term this is the list of his mistakes https://www.yahoo.com/news/joe-biden-makes-one-last-223947188.html made which provably people would remember.

I guess this is part of his desperate move as he know he won't get any seat anymore. I guess there's nothing to do now in that cases since clemency has been awarded already. What current government could do is to monitor the movement of those people if they create another crime so that they can immediately stop this people.

With current happening right now we can see that Trump is really supporting Bitcoin there's no question with that now especially that they already made some good movements to honor their promises. On the case of Ulbritch being pardon again same with those people being pardon by Biden government also need to monitor his movement if he goes back on those past illegal activities done before or he would live a new life after he serve his sentence in prison.

On one hand I have to give it to the orange man and give him his props for sticking true to his word.  I guess it's really no skin off his back, but the fact of the matter is he did stay true to hi word and that had to stand for something.

I am still not sure how I feel about Ross being released.  I am ALL FOR an open capitalistic society, less rules, less laws etc, but there's some very questionable things that I've either heard about him or know to be true that makes me wonder if he really deserves it.  Just not sure.

What is happening now in the United States is a very bad application of this constitutional article, as we find Democrat Biden issuing a pardon in favor of his son, who is involved in financial corruption and conflict of interest cases, and Republican Trump, who issued rulings only because his fans supported him.

What will happen in all these cases? Simply put, all charges were dropped, including open cases as with Biden's son. Who is supposed to protest? The opposition parties (Democrats) are benefiting and involved in the same practice, and civil society has no voice in the face of the president's popularity, regardless of his party.

Will Trump really support crypto? This may happen, but not by issuing a pardon for criminals whose crimes have been legally proven to be punishable.

Rough day for Ross… Looks like he made a mistake and lost $12,000,000. Not the best first week out of prison.

https://x.com/arkham/status/1884976064717365367

“ ROSS ULBRICHT LOST $12M ON PUMPFUN...

Ross Ulbricht, or someone with access to his wallets, just accidentally nuked the price of a pumpfun coin sent to him while trying to provide liquidity on Raydium.

Because he initialized the liquidity pool at the wrong price, $1.5M of the token (5% supply) was instantly taken by a MEV Bot, then sold into the existing pool.

Then he did it again and he lost another $10.5M. (35% supply)”

People should definitely be agnostic about those sort of things. I personally neither like Trump, NOR do I hate him, but speaking from a non-biased viewpoint, I believe his actions on Ross Ulbrict and his intention to create a Strategic Bitcoin Reserve are positive for Bitcoin as a whole, if you ask me.

BUT I'm not saying that he's a truly good person, or that he has not done anything questionable. Because the truth is, NONE of us in the world are truly good.

Congratulations to Ross and his family. I don't know much about him other than the public fact that he ran silk road. Happy to see ross finally free being that he was one of the early adopters of bitcoin that showed that Bitcoin can be used like every other currency on the planet even with the additional benefits it has.

One more person I'd like to see free is the founder of tornado cash. Fingers crossed.

If they don't like Trump - it would be like that regardless of his actions.
That's their opinions on him for ya 

It's laughable that people would try to find "something" in anything. It's either that they're merely fretful, or they were probably disappointed that what they expected didn't actually happen.

  

President Trump made a campaign promise to the Libertarians that if they help him win he would give Ross Ulbricht a pardon. He kept that promise and the fretful people were actually disappointed that he honored his word in this instance. Those fretful people would probably be complaining in a more motivated way if the promise was broken.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

These decisions to pardon and drop charges against criminals who have been proven guilty by the judiciary or defendants whose cases are still in the investigation and trial phase cannot be justice practice by any mean. Yes, they are constitutional decisions that cannot be discussed in their compatibility with the US constitution, which grants the president power to issue pardons, but their use in this manner cannot be the reason behind the creation of this law.

Democracy is one of the methods of fair governance, but it can be misused in various ways in clear manipulation of the contents of the laws and their effectiveness. As I explained in my previous comment, as long as no one complains, there is no problem on the surface, but this does not mean at all that this is what should really be done because it raises issues and problems that are much deeper than just the story of a president issuing an order to pardon one person.

Who would opposed the pardon? Trump is the most powerful man in US for sure people would obey what he want to happen. But also I think he already serve his sentence and the penalties he get is to much.

The more intriguing issue is that Biden giving a pardon to his son and they should not question if there is Trump decide to fulfill his promise to release Ulbricht.

With actions done by Trump for sure it increase more its popularity and Democrats are losing appeal to people due to what they have done especially on last minute decisions made by former President.

The power to issue pardons must be justified logically and not based on emotions. I was surprised that I did not hear any objections to the decision to pardon Ross, but I quickly understood the matter. The Republican Party supports Trump, whose popularity has increased, and no one will want to discuss his decision, even behind the scenes, as long as no one is harmed. The Democratic Party did not oppose Biden when he issued a pardon for his son regarding corruption cases and economic and financial crimes, so it does not have the courage to discuss Trump’s decisions on this matter. Civil society believes that Ross’s sentence is unjust and violates human rights, and that he has served enough of his sentence and deserves a pardon.

Even if he was "a criminal" and has disobeyed the law, the sentences are grossly exaggerated. I know there are countries in South-East Asia for example where drug offenders face life imprisonment or even death for the "crime" of harming themselves. But the US, supposedly, is a first world state which has been (in the past) been a promoter of human rights. So I won't compare the US with countries with dubious human right records.

And as I wrote in another post, weapons weren't allowed on Silk Road. Weapons were allowed on another platform Ulbricht participated building but later it was closed.

I agree with this part of the post. However, for me (without being an expert) it looks like the Ulbricht sentence was made to set a precedent and scare those wanting to create similar platforms. In the Anglo-American judicial system (Common Law) a court decision can influence other decisions. While a pardon isn't a sentence, it could open the debate about cruel punishments for relatively minor offenses again.

And also it could open a debate about about responsibility on unmoderated platforms where people can pay with Bitcoin. My opinion is that if these platforms make a serious effort to ban violence (including things like child abuse), like Silk Road did, they should be allowed to exist.

I am actually surprised by all this celebration and momentum that the so-called Ross is enjoying. Currently, he is making headlines as if he were a movie star or one of the major global influencers. What is striking about Ross's story is that no one cares that this person is a criminal and is accused of establishing a network to facilitate, sell, buy and transport illegal substances such as drugs, weapons and other materials. The judiciary did not only sentence him to life imprisonment afaik, but two life sentences with an additional forty years without the possibility of parole. These are serious sentences issued according to a conviction file and research conducted by the authorities within the framework of their protective role and not because he uses Bitcoin as some may think, which no one really cared about at that time.

Why do not the families of prisoners in drug and weapons cases demand a pardon for their sons according to the same formula, or should they have used Bitcoin in his early years?

I don't think Trump is that supportive of crypto or that he is really enthusiastic about releasing the oppressed (in his opinion), so I don't blame him much as he only think about winning more electoral votes, but I wonder how the American judicial institutions and public opinion can allow such a historical farce.

Lol, i don't know if it is a good idea to publicly donate to him, people can easily get the wrong message by doing so. However, i completely support the pardon handed down to him by president Trump. Two life sentences plus 40 years for a non-violent crime is as crazy as it gets, he ran a darkweb marketplace and people used it to commit crime, yes that is an offence, but not worthy of that kind of harsh sentence.

They also published the donation address (and donation page supporting multiple cryptos) and the balance is now over $286k, so that's a nice boost.
https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/bc1qzrkdfpc4dxyyg6axvstft7sx8vhgverhvyv82y
+ there might be more from altcoins donations.
Still, he spent like 12 years behind bars, so it's hardly a good deal.


They won me over much earlier. Kraken has had an excellent track record from the beginning, while Coinbase has had its ups and downs and, I believe, still has one of the highest fees.

And with that, there the support for Ross Ulbricht is outpouring. Kraken exchange donated a cool $111,111 to him.



https://x.com/krakenfx/status/1882145752303993342

So I guess it's lucky to be a 'criminal' now. Anyhow, did Kraken win you over (against Coinbase) with this move?

Ross posted a short video on X earlier today. Apparently, he has already been released (I thought it would take a bit longer). He's obviously thanking Trump for sticking to his word and signing the pardon as he promised prior to the elections.
https://x.com/RealRossU/status/1882609887878029519

We all like stories with happy endings, but let's not lose focus on how corrupt and simply unjust the justice system can be.

I disagree a bit here. Censorship resistance is not only useful to defend yourself against abuses of the State or government, even if this is of course one of the main advantages.

Take the well known problem of banks cancelling the account of people who don't contribute enough to their profit -- a form of "financial censorship". With Bitcoin, nobody can "cancel" your account. Some may blacklist your address but there will probably always be someone who accepts your coins, as long as they aren't related with a known crime.

It is also none of anybody's business to know which drugs you use, even if it's legal to use them -- for example, in well-known dystopic literature your health insurance company may be interested to know that, to be able to increase your monthly contribution if you take certain recreational drugs. And banks could, in this dystopia, provide information to this company, while on a dark market you are able to hide at least some of your steps. Thus, dark/private markets for drugs will also be an option if no legal restriction exists, just to protect you from abuses of private companies you depend on.