Topic: Ross Ulbricht is coming home in January! - page 3. (Read 986 times)

This isn't very clear to me. The tweet from his family is confusing as we don't know if they already spoke to Trump after his win or if they are trying to call his attention public and remind him of his promise.

The only advantage of this is not on Bitcoin but on Trump. That is more popularity aside this nothing may happen to bitcoin's price unless if in a public broadcast on this issue Trump mentions Bitcoin.

As for Ross, I guess he'd write a book, give few public lectures and advocate for the release of others who are truly illegal imprisoned for their involvement with Bitcoin and cryptocurrency.

I do think that him being in jail is justified and valid but maybe life imprisonment was too much. Crypto enthusiasts praised Silk Road because they think it was really the official start of crypto being legitimized in platforms as a currency. So, I get why they would admire Ross Ulbricht, but it is too much for us to ignore that he did in fact do illegal things which warranted him getting jailed.  

Maybe crypto enthusiasts think that his imprisonment is longer solely because there was crypto involved and that theory is not lost to me but he is still a criminal who has conducted criminal activity with or without crypto.
He would just be free of prison but would not be absolved of any of his crimes. and yes Trump can pretty much do anything so long as he wants to do it.

Over the years, I shake my head whenever I see any "freeRoss" campaign. There are actually innocent people in the US prisons who are actually innocent. Not like all of them are innocent entirely for they're innocent of the crimes they're in prison for. Research has shown that 4-6% of prisoners in the US are innocent of their crimes and even if you don't believe in this percentage, you can't argue with the fact that there are actually people who have been imprisoned unfairly for rape and murder.
Where are there no campaigns for these people? Simply because they're not popular.

Talking about reducing his sentence is one thing, releasing him is another and celebrating his release is a whole different thing.
It is because of people like these that Bitcoin has a bad name. This man created the Silk Road, which was used to trade all forms of illegal things anonymously, and all payments were made in Bitcoin. If anything, this alone should make the Bitcoin community against him because he's a bigger problem to Bitcoin than the politicians.
A federal agent found a way to infiltrate the site and became an admin on Silk Road, so they built a solid case around him. It's not like they were throwing bullshit charges on him. If you say a life sentence is too much for his crimes I might agree, but money laundry, distributing narcotics, computer hacking, and engaging in a criminal enterprise (in fact, he owned the criminal enterprise) should get you 15 to 20 years if we're being fair.

Now I'm going to talk about the part nobody likes to talk about.
Would he be shown this much love if he wasn't white? I mean, will Trump give 2 shits about him if he was a black man? This was the same man who immediately put ads out in newspapers for the death penalty to be returned to the state immediately after the central pack five were arrested.
After these boys served 10 to 13 years for crimes they did not commit, they were released after a man confessed to the crimes, in 2019 Trump still stood by his statement during that time that the boys were guilty and that they already confessed. A confession proved to be coerced out of the teenagers.
So why is such a man who doesn't believe people that people who have been proven innocent by the court after serving a decade for crimes they didn't commit is ready to release a man the court and evidence deemed guilty?

Cybercriminal Ross Ulbricht was jailed for life in 2015. Recently we saw on social media Twitter that his family mentioned that he will be released next January.
https://x.com/Free_Ross/status/1854560687713927541?t=KQWHKG8OEx3qb3oJkSoV1Q&s=19

They think that maybe Donald Trump will help Ross Ulbricht get out of jail. Maybe we don't know how honest it is. Because when Donald Trump was first elected president of the United States in 2017, he did not take any steps to get Ross Ulbricht out of jail. But now that he has taken steps to get Ross Ulbricht out of jail, is he taking this step to win his election.

Donald Trump must have mentioned Ross Ulbricht here, and the pledge crowd chanting for a free-for-all is hilarious. 
Because Ross Ulbricht has been in prison for a long time I certainly think he deserves to be released from the sentence now, because the screams and shouts of the audience must have created a mesmerizing atmosphere.

Video link: https://youtu.be/rlyDIVHC7iM?si=vrfqQIDmJjQ4x24v

It was clearly a tactic to get much of the votes from the bitcoin community and also clearly it has helped him have the victory on the elections hehehe. On being optimistic or not on this, I reckon Trump might get some difficulties on the pardon because it will not be a simple process very much on what he said that he will fire our favorite SEC chairman uncle Gary hehehe.

Didn't they already seized Ross's bitcoin when he was arrested? I remember that it was auctioned off at a really cheap price or that's a different bitcoin that got seized that got auctioned off. I guess there's some form of sympathy out there for dealers instead of the users, capitalism at its finest. Imagine the first thing that he does is do some stupid shit all over again, there's no way that the court of public opinion is going to let that slide.

If it is actually like this, he should be freed after 12 years in jail. Among the convictions he got, I see the worst one is with drug because drug addiction is always bad and it can destroy a person life, kill him or her and also brings lot of terrible effects to their families too.

Trump promised to commute Ulbricht’s sentence on “day one” and soon we will know what Trump does with Ross Ulbricht case.

I don't know but in many nation, Presidents have rights to set prisoners free. Probably it will be the same in the USA and Trump can do it for Ross Ulbricht if he sees it is a right thing to do. Further than that, like you said, if Trump wants to change criminal code, laws, it will be different thing that is bigger than just freeing Ross Ulbricht as a specific case.

OK, let's see what he was charged actually according to Wikipedia:

- "engaging in a continuing criminal enterprise"
- "distributing narcotics"
- "distributing narcotics by means of the internet"
- "conspiracy to distribute narcotics"
- "conspiracy to commit money laundering"
- "conspiracy to traffic fraudulent identity documents"
- "conspiracy to commit computer hacking"

First, a lot of these charges are quite redundant. Basically they convicted him for 1) drug dealing, 2) hacking, 3) money laundering and 4) "traffic fraudulent documents". And he probably didn't commit the crimes himself but tolerated them.

In most countries, none of these charges would give you more than 5 years, with the exception of drug dealing if it's related to gang violence. But ok, the US are special, they love their draconian punishments. They're one of only of a handful of developed countries retaining death penalty, and most developed countries also don't retain life imprisonment without parole.

Even 12 years is FAR too much for these charges. Life imprisonment is totally ridiculous, and without parole even more.

If Trump however was serious about that problem, he should convince his fellow Republicans in Congress to change the criminal code and lower the prison sentences for these charges. I don't exactly see a high probability for that, though.

Discussion about Ross Ulbricht time in prison and possible release is complicated.Some people think he was treated unfairly and should not be in prison while others believe he was found guilty of seven serious crimes. If he is released from prison it is important to remember how serious his crimes were. We should not celebrate his release without thinking about harm he caused.His case has big implication for law and any decision to pardon him would need to be thought carefully. Normally presidential pardons only happen under certain condition and only apply to federal crimes not crimes at state level.To have smart conversations about justice and accountability we need to understand details of Ulbricht case and what his release would mean.

The hope is founded upon the man's promise, a promise that was made publicly. Trump was president for 4 years, but Ulbricht's case wasn't special to him back then. It probably wasn't within his radar. In the first place, he was anti-Bitcoin at that time.

This time, it's different. He has already taken a U-turn, made pronouncements in support of Bitcoin. He strongly pledged in front of Bitcoin supporters that he'll release Ross on "day one".

This is now a waiting game. But, as history has taught us, a politician's promise should be taken with a pinch of salt.

Ross Ulbricht received a double life sentence and 40 years in prison without parole. He's already spent 12 years in prison, which is a very long time. Especially for someone who has never killed anyone. I hope Trump will keep his promise and free Ross Ulbricht. But I'm not optimistic about this. Trump has been president for 4 years before and he hasn't taken any action on this issue. Why would he do it this time?

I am upset that Trump won the US elections, but I do think that Ulbricht should not be in prison. I sincerely hope that Trump won't forget his pledge and will issue a pardon to free Ross. Ross getting arrested is actually how I found out about the existence of Bitcoin. It was big enough news to attract the attention of the media internationally in times when cryptos weren't actively discussed. I'm sure his release will be major news if it happens.

Why is this being celebrated? He was not imprisoned illegally. He committed crimes, and the court found him guilty. His release, however true, is not something that should be celebrated simply because he's your favourite. What kind of society are we if we start celebrating the release of criminals or celebrating when they evade the law? It doesn't make sense.
He was found guilty of seven charges, and two of those charges alone should result in a minimum of 15 years in prison.
We see this a lot with celebrities when they're charged. People just rally behind them without stopping to think if they're actually guilty.

I don't know how possible it is for Trump to release him because he can't overrule the court, unless its some sort of a presidential pardon, but even at that, certain factors are going to be met first.

Depending on the urgency of the promises that he has mentioned. If this is an urgent matter and important to him, he'd probably do that by the time he becomes the POTUS again.

For Bitcoin to soar, we have to see Gary get out of the SEC. They'll do better without him and the Trump administration better get rid of the obstacles including him.

Is this sarcasm or what? I don't see any official announcement where Ross Ulbricht will be released in January, it's just a hope for Donald Trump will release him.

It's not easy as that if you read this article https://fortune.com/crypto/2024/08/06/trump-says-he-would-fire-sec-chair-gary-gensler-on-day-one-its-not-that-easy/

I think Gary Gensler didn't make a fatal mistake which can bring him to get fired instantly, high likely Trump will say it's under progress and we have to wait for few years.

Trump can barely remember what he said minutes ago, much less what he said in July. I am sure there will be donors staying in touch with his handlers to remind them to put the papers on his desk. We're still waiting for Hillary to be locked up so I wouldn’t exactly be holding my breath expecting anything to happen. Campaign promises are worthless.

While I get your point, he only created a website with the intent of launching a truly Free Market.  A truly Free Market means no Censorship and there should be no exception to the rule.  Otherwise it becomes not so Free.

Now there are obviously other details to his case and I am not saying he is 100 percent not guilty, but I think we should not forget that all of us have the right to innocence unless proven guilty and, if you ask me, the way his case was handled is kind of weird at the very least.  It rather seems like he was framed than any thing else.

Not to mention the excessively large punishment he received for only launching a website.  I hate Craig Wright but I would not punish him or consider him a criminal for creating a Shit Coin with a Blockchain containing illegal stuff posted by other people.  He is a criminal for other reasons, but not this one.  Same with Satoshi creating Bitcoin which really can be used for Crime and no Bank or Authority could say no to such a Transaction because it is Free.  However, Satoshi is not to blame for that.

Frankly I highly doubt if Trumpalini will even remember Ross.
Personally I think he should remain in prison for running silk Road.

Uhhhhh Is this real, If so I cant wait for that hahahha Mr Gary already been a fire for the crypto community I don't know how much people get rekted because of this person hahah. Anyway, Congrat for the Ross Ulbricht.
But I am still wondering tho is there any list that Trump promises haha

What about the Ross bitcoin are the Us seized them all?