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Quote from: Wind_FURY on November 07, 2024, 11:59:25 AM

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ROSS IS COMING HOME IN JANUARY!!

We are so so grateful to @realDonaldTrump for his pledge to #FreeRoss and to all those who have supported us.

Here's to this 12th Thanksgiving in prison being the last one!

- The Ulbricht family

https://x.com/free_ross/status/1854560687713927541

Congratulations to Ross and the Ulbricht Family! After twelve years, ROSS can finally be with his loved ones, especially his MOTHER who has always been fighting for HIS freedom. Thanks to President Trump for keeping the most important pre-election promise for a person who was losing hope.

I am upset that Trump won the US elections, but I do think that Ulbricht should not be in prison. I sincerely hope that Trump won't forget his pledge and will issue a pardon to free Ross. Ross getting arrested is actually how I found out about the existence of Bitcoin. It was big enough news to attract the attention of the media internationally in times when cryptos weren't actively discussed. I'm sure his release will be major news if it happens.

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Why is this being celebrated? He was not imprisoned illegally. He committed crimes, and the court found him guilty. His release, however true, is not something that should be celebrated simply because he's your favourite. What kind of society are we if we start celebrating the release of criminals or celebrating when they evade the law? It doesn't make sense.
He was found guilty of seven charges, and two of those charges alone should result in a minimum of 15 years in prison.
We see this a lot with celebrities when they're charged. People just rally behind them without stopping to think if they're actually guilty.

I don't know how possible it is for Trump to release him because he can't overrule the court, unless its some sort of a presidential pardon, but even at that, certain factors are going to be met first.

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Quote from: cabron on November 07, 2024, 12:15:45 PM

If Trump can get him out, then maybe all he promised during his campaign can happen, some of it probably.

Depending on the urgency of the promises that he has mentioned. If this is an urgent matter and important to him, he'd probably do that by the time he becomes the POTUS again.

Quote from: Davidvictorson on November 07, 2024, 12:06:39 PM

Next pre-election promise to keep - Fire Gary Gensler.

For Bitcoin to soar, we have to see Gary get out of the SEC. They'll do better without him and the Trump administration better get rid of the obstacles including him.

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Is this sarcasm or what? I don't see any official announcement where Ross Ulbricht will be released in January, it's just a hope for Donald Trump will release him.

Quote from: Davidvictorson on November 07, 2024, 12:06:39 PM

Next pre-election promise to keep - Fire Gary Gensler.

It's not easy as that if you read this article https://fortune.com/crypto/2024/08/06/trump-says-he-would-fire-sec-chair-gary-gensler-on-day-one-its-not-that-easy/

I think Gary Gensler didn't make a fatal mistake which can bring him to get fired instantly, high likely Trump will say it's under progress and we have to wait for few years.

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Quote from: MusaMohamed on November 07, 2024, 09:54:32 PM

Trump promised to free Ross Ulbricht months ago in a Bitcoin Conference 2024 in July this year.

President Trump Repeats Pledge to Free Ross Ulbricht (7/27/24)
Trump Pledges to Free Silk Road Creator Ross Ulbricht If Re-Elected

People thought that it is one of his tools to buy votes from Bitcoin community and maybe more cryptocurrency communities. We will know that he will actually free Ross Ulbricht after his Presidential Inauguration Ceremony in January 2025.

Trump can barely remember what he said minutes ago, much less what he said in July. I am sure there will be donors staying in touch with his handlers to remind them to put the papers on his desk. We're still waiting for Hillary to be locked up so I wouldn’t exactly be holding my breath expecting anything to happen. Campaign promises are worthless.

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Quote from: avikz on November 07, 2024, 12:29:25 PM

Not sure if it is going to be positive or negative for the crypto world. Ross was imprisoned for running darknet website Silk Road which was actually selling narcotics and many other illegal stuffs. So I think that is life imprisonment is quite valid. He was running a criminal enterprise.

While I get your point, he only created a website with the intent of launching a truly Free Market. A truly Free Market means no Censorship and there should be no exception to the rule. Otherwise it becomes not so Free.

Now there are obviously other details to his case and I am not saying he is 100 percent not guilty, but I think we should not forget that all of us have the right to innocence unless proven guilty and, if you ask me, the way his case was handled is kind of weird at the very least. It rather seems like he was framed than any thing else.

Not to mention the excessively large punishment he received for only launching a website. I hate Craig Wright but I would not punish him or consider him a criminal for creating a Shit Coin with a Blockchain containing illegal stuff posted by other people. He is a criminal for other reasons, but not this one. Same with Satoshi creating Bitcoin which really can be used for Crime and no Bank or Authority could say no to such a Transaction because it is Free. However, Satoshi is not to blame for that.

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Frankly I highly doubt if Trumpalini will even remember Ross.
Personally I think he should remain in prison for running silk Road.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on November 07, 2024, 12:06:39 PM

Next pre-election promise to keep - Fire Gary Gensler.

Uhhhhh Is this real, If so I cant wait for that hahahha Mr Gary already been a fire for the crypto community I don't know how much people get rekted because of this person hahah. Anyway, Congrat for the Ross Ulbricht.
But I am still wondering tho is there any list that Trump promises haha

What about the Ross bitcoin are the Us seized them all?

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Quote from: Darker45 on November 07, 2024, 09:36:17 PM

Did Trump mention Ross Ulbricht after he won? I haven't kept myself updated, but I haven't observed any kind of excitement or something like that on social media about Ulbricht's release. Surely, there must be one if Trump indeed reaffirmed his commitment to release Ross on "day one" of his presidency.

However, there's nothing to be grateful to yet. It was a promise made while campaigning. It was certainly done to gain the votes of Bitcoin supporters who have always been fighting for Ross' release. But until Ross gets out of prison, that remains a pledge. A politician's promise, however, is often unfulfilled.

Trump promised to free Ross Ulbricht months ago in a Bitcoin Conference 2024 in July this year.

President Trump Repeats Pledge to Free Ross Ulbricht (7/27/24)
Trump Pledges to Free Silk Road Creator Ross Ulbricht If Re-Elected

People thought that it is one of his tools to buy votes from Bitcoin community and maybe more cryptocurrency communities. We will know that he will actually free Ross Ulbricht after his Presidential Inauguration Ceremony in January 2025.

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on November 07, 2024, 11:59:25 AM

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ROSS IS COMING HOME IN JANUARY!!

We are so so grateful to @realDonaldTrump for his pledge to #FreeRoss and to all those who have supported us.

Here's to this 12th Thanksgiving in prison being the last one!

- The Ulbricht family

https://x.com/free_ross/status/1854560687713927541

Congratulations to Ross and the Ulbricht Family! After twelve years, ROSS can finally be with his loved ones, especially his MOTHER who has always been fighting for HIS freedom. Thanks to President Trump for keeping the most important pre-election promise for a person who was losing hope.

Thats pretty huge that he even promised that from the start. It is cool seeing how Trump will pardon folks who have even made significant progress or aided the development of this highly advanced and modern technology aka Bitcoin. What will Ross do when he comes back and will he continue to play a role in Bitcoin in the future? I wonder what his welcoming home will bring back into the space.

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Did Trump mention Ross Ulbricht after he won? I haven't kept myself updated, but I haven't observed any kind of excitement or something like that on social media about Ulbricht's release. Surely, there must be one if Trump indeed reaffirmed his commitment to release Ross on "day one" of his presidency.

However, there's nothing to be grateful to yet. It was a promise made while campaigning. It was certainly done to gain the votes of Bitcoin supporters who have always been fighting for Ross' release. But until Ross gets out of prison, that remains a pledge. A politician's promise, however, is often unfulfilled.

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on November 07, 2024, 11:59:25 AM

Congratulations to Ross and the Ulbricht Family! After twelve years, ROSS can finally be with his loved ones, especially his MOTHER who has always been fighting for HIS freedom. Thanks to President Trump for keeping the most important pre-election promise for a person who was losing hope.

I read some short descriptions at https://freeross.org/ and see

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Ross was not convicted of selling drugs or illegal items himself, but was held responsible for what others sold on the site.

It is a shady area for law interpretation and enforcement, and I know it is not how government see it, but if it is a reason for Ross Ulbricht to be free from prison in January 2024, how about mixers' founders and operators who were arrested and imprisoned?

They can be free too, but I really don't think Ross Ulbricht will be a case law in mixer industry. Governments globally don't like mixers and they will do everything to ban mixers and put mixers' founders and operators to jail.

It's logic that mixers are for everyone, privacy is for everyone, basic human rights, but it's hard to fight and get privacy back from governments.

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Quote from: cabron on November 07, 2024, 12:15:45 PM

If Trump can get him out, then maybe all he promised during his campaign can happen, some of it probably. Gary Gensler's tenure will end this year or the next as I read in some comments. I guess it won't make a difference if he fires him or just lets him go in peace and finish his term.

But yeah FREE Ross, 12 years seem too much for what he did. I'm starting to believe they are still trying to squeeze the private keys of Ross's wallet that's why he isn't pardoned. Grin

Well let see its because right now this is what people look for, many are now watching him to perform or implement those plans he said to people. Allowing Ulbricht to get released would indicate that he is true to his word and also a good sign that his really for Bitcoin now.

So again lets follow up for more update regarding on this case since many people really believe that penalties given to that unfortunate guy is to much and many think that he already serve his sentence in prison.

Also reading this article written by coindesk https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2024/11/07/donald-trump-more-likely-to-pardon-jan-6-protestors-than-silk-road-founder-polymarket/ rise up the curiosity and discussion about what possible next step will happen in future.

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Quote from: avikz on November 07, 2024, 12:29:25 PM

Not sure if it is going to be positive or negative for the crypto world.

This will undoubtedly be positive news, since if bitcoin3 was associated with the darknet, the sale of prohibited items and Ross Ulbricht, then Ulbricht's rehabilitation will automatically rehabilitate bitcoin (partially) as something "only associated with negative things" in the eyes of ordinary people.

Quote from: avikz on November 07, 2024, 12:29:25 PM

Ross was imprisoned for running darknet website Silk Road which was actually selling narcotics and many other illegal stuffs.

He personally sold all this illegal stuff? I think this is an exaggeration, comparable to statements from the tabloids, which is a bit strange to hear from an old forum user.

Quote from: avikz on November 07, 2024, 12:29:25 PM

So I think that is life imprisonment is quite valid. He was running a criminal enterprise.

Systemically, he was no different from Bezos, since he was not running a criminal enterprise, but an online trading platform. It's almost as if you were the owner of the premises and rented it out to a fruit and vegetable seller who sold illegal goods without your knowledge. You are not responsible for what this seller does, because you are only renting him the retail space.

It should also be noted that if Ross Ulbricht is soon released, then this is a sign that his punishment with life imprisonment was unjustified and excessive. Otherwise, if he was really guilty, everything would remain as is.

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Let us not celebrate yet, until Ross Ulbricht gets the presidential pardon from Trump and returns home to his family after almost 12 years in prison. I am sure the community will put pressure to ensure Trump keeps true to his word.

Quote from: Ambatman on November 07, 2024, 03:55:13 PM

Is compulsory KYC going to be abolished? Would he pardon mixers?

Things don't work like that, it is unrealistic to think that kyc would stop being compulsory for centralized services or that the government will suddenly become friendly to BTC mixers or privacy in general.

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Would believe when it happens.
Not a fan of drugs and not really a supporter but Ross case is evidence that the government can't bode well with decentralization.
I would love to see how Trump would allow regulations made by people that 'loves' Bitcoin without jeorpazing decentralization.
Is compulsory KYC going to be abolished? Would he pardon mixers?
If he can free Ross, There's a likelihood he might, again might fulfil some of its promises but...... Let's see.

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Quote from: avikz on November 07, 2024, 12:29:25 PM

Not sure if it is going to be positive or negative for the crypto world. Ross was imprisoned for running darknet website Silk Road which was actually selling narcotics and many other illegal stuffs. So I think that is life imprisonment is quite valid. He was running a criminal enterprise.

The site was used to sell drugs, but he was not the seller. He only allowed others to do it. If you don't understand what the whole fuss is about, the penalty for selling drugs as first offense is under 15 years.
The man got life for allowing other people to do it, which should carry a lower sentence, just like lending someone your gun so he can murder a person will get you a smaller sentence as if you did it yourself.

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I am not sure if Trump will have any executive power to dismiss the decision made in a court. But if it happens, I will hope that Trump will fulfill his other promises he made before the election.

Just do some research if you aren't sure Cool

The president of the United States is authorized by the U.S. Constitution to grant a pardon for a federal crime. The other forms of the clemency power of the president are commutation of sentence, remission of fine or restitution, and reprieve.[1] A person may decide not to accept a pardon, in which case it does not take effect.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_pardons_in_the_United_States

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If Trump really releases Ross, Bitcoin will soar. Cool

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Hello!

Ross was a person who wanted to help people, anytime "someone" spoke with him, through Silkroad contact, he was always graceful and offered too much help. But this was very early on. He saved "someone" who fucked up during the first visit. : Wink

He didn't deserve what happened to him.

Ross, you deserve reparations. Hope to see you on this forum to inform us of the treatment you received, and maybe see if we can get a "go fund me" if you lost all.

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I'm pleased to hear this. We can say Trump is a man of his words, he wasn't just acting like other politicians just to win votes, hope he meant everything he says. Now let's see what he does to make American great again and about that annoying man Gary Gensler.

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