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Topic: RUIZ VS ORTIZ SUN, SEP 04, 2022 10PM ET EASTERN TIME/ (Read 577 times)

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This is the Heavyweight division and everything can change in just one punch. And both of this boxers can knock out anyone with just one punch and that is why they are predicting a knock out.

We will see though if this is going to be a title eliminator, or the winner rightfully facing the WBC champion in Tyson Fury. Because there are rumors that he is not going to retire because and would very much fight Usyk. So let's see, the winner might have to wait though.

Whoever wins here is the rightful challenger to any of the world titles be it the WBC, WBA or IBF but if WBC will have their way, the Fury -Usyk will have to wait, and Fury if he wants to retain and take hold of the title he needs to fight the winner of this fight, but if Fury doesn't want to retain the WBC and go straight to the Usyk match then there could be an interim match, which the WBC will decide, there are so many speculations now. 

Fury really has a lot of challenges to take in the future for him to maintain his title. There are lots of boxers who want to beat him because of his consistent winning record. Fury is an in-demand boxer right now and I guess he should take advantage of the many opportunities in front of him. However, he has to go through Usyk first who seems ready to face him on the ring.

For me, seeing a knockout of these boxers I don't see it that close, because both boxers know what they are playing for in this fight, for me both Ruiz and Ortiz have important opportunities, but regarding the technique of both fighters, I would not know why. which one to lean more, now when we take into account that the two come out with the strategy of a knockout it is up to them to see if they play it, for my part I have to see more of each one, I don't know which one will have the hardest training , that is radical, I think that this is a way that bettors have to lean towards a 50/50 or at least I see it that way now.

Neither Ortiz or Ruiz are very good at dodging punches and it showed during the fight, but at the same time this made it entertaining as we could see two fighters that were unafraid at going at each other.

Judging from their built, they are both expected to be slow and dodging some punches is indeed a real hard challenge for them to do even if they can predict their opponent's next move. What they can mostly do is to minimize the impact by doing some kind of defense or be the strongest puncher in the ring so that they can finish their opponent much earlier before their body catches up from the wear and tear they've acquired from the fight.

Well, when evaluating a fight between them, they both want to do their best, that's why dodging blows is not in their genetics when they have a similar level of boxing and want to stand out, for me it's something that has a lot to do with all the desire to win, I don't know if they both want to go out for a knockout, but if so, I think they will be able to make it very exciting, for me this fight at the beginning, I don't think they will go out and hit everything, for me it will be very different, because I think both They will seek to study each other and then put together their strategy, for me they are explosive boxers and I think they cannot come out with everything, it would be something risky, and I think they both need this victory.
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Neither Ortiz or Ruiz are very good at dodging punches and it showed during the fight, but at the same time this made it entertaining as we could see two fighters that were unafraid at going at each other.

Judging from their built, they are both expected to be slow and dodging some punches is indeed a real hard challenge for them to do even if they can predict their opponent's next move. What they can mostly do is to minimize the impact by doing some kind of defense or be the strongest puncher in the ring so that they can finish their opponent much earlier before their body catches up from the wear and tear they've acquired from the fight.
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I was wrong I thought it will not go the distance both fighters are powerful punchers but yet they both have a granite chin, I admire Kingkong for getting up every time he goes down he is still strong and can take the fight to the limit, at 43 and with many fresh faces coming in the heavyweight division his chances to be world champion is slim with this recent loss, he also says that he will still continue to fight maybe until he gets busted, the mind is the last to give up even though the body is still can and that what categorize Kingkong Ortiz.

That was an entertaining fight, I like the exchanges, it does not make us boring. Also, I'm impressed with the stamina of Ortiz, he got knocked down many times but he always stand up to continue fighting. Now, we have a title eliminator, hopefully Ruiz will be given a chance to fight for a championship fight again. I like how he maintain his body, he looks strong at that body as that's his normal.
Ruiz will surely have that chance mate because with this win(though of course he is in advantage) yet he shows how strong and tough being fighter he is.
though there is a long line for championship  but His name would be one of the boxer that will be on list.
Congratulation for the win though.

This is a WBC title eliminator but there's an ongoing negotiation between Fury and Joshua and the WBC is agreeing for this fight to underway even giving a special designation to Joshua so the fight will push through if the fight failed to materialize then Ruiz will get into the picture but for now, the boxing community wants the Joshua - Fury to push through because it was schedule years ago but failed to mateialize.
Yes and I think Ruiz will not have a problem with that, just stepping aside and wait for the Fury (WBC champion) to fight AJ in UK for all British showdown. And so he will have months to take a rest and heal this body, prepare his mind on whoever win that fight, he will have a crack at him later, so win-win for Ruiz. And he still has the power to knockout everyone is the heavyweight division so that will be a problem for his opponents.

Do you all think that Ruiz deserves a set-aside fee for getting out of the picture and letting the Fury - Joshua go on, this is a WBC title eliminator he deserves to be the next in line for the title, but knowing gRuiz he is not the kind of who imposes his right but let's see in the coming weeks if the Joshua - Fury will materialize which we all want to happen, but it case it did not Ruiz deserves to be the next challenger, since he won a title eliminator and he wins very impressive.
It's beyond his control as of now, if the WBC says that he will need to step aside and let Fury defend it against Usyk or Joshua for a bigger pay for Tyson and the organization then he will step-aside maybe for some monetary rewards. So let's see, with the sort of boxing politics we have right, those who won the eliminators can still not get the first crack from the champion. So I wouldn't be surprised if Fury vs Ruiz will not be made yet.
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I was wrong I thought it will not go the distance both fighters are powerful punchers but yet they both have a granite chin, I admire Kingkong for getting up every time he goes down he is still strong and can take the fight to the limit, at 43 and with many fresh faces coming in the heavyweight division his chances to be world champion is slim with this recent loss, he also says that he will still continue to fight maybe until he gets busted, the mind is the last to give up even though the body is still can and that what categorize Kingkong Ortiz.

That was an entertaining fight, I like the exchanges, it does not make us boring. Also, I'm impressed with the stamina of Ortiz, he got knocked down many times but he always stand up to continue fighting. Now, we have a title eliminator, hopefully Ruiz will be given a chance to fight for a championship fight again. I like how he maintain his body, he looks strong at that body as that's his normal.
Neither Ortiz or Ruiz are very good at dodging punches and it showed during the fight, but at the same time this made it entertaining as we could see two fighters that were unafraid at going at each other.

If anything I am surprised to see how resistant is the chin of Ruiz as he received several blows which should have been enough to knock other fighters down, and when it comes to Ortiz it surprised me the endurance that he had, the punch that knock him down the first time was very similar to the one that Joshua received during the first fight and he was in a bad condition for the rest of the fight while Ortiz was fine, unfortunately his age played against him which is one of the reasons he lost this fight.
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Go Ortiz , Beat Ruiz now  Grin
I formerly thought that ortiz will have an upper hand considering his age will be an advantage for him via experience, but his age seem to have made him slower and less reactive. Ortiz should now consider retirement. Ruiz was smart, relentless and formidable in the fight, throwing everything he had over to Ortiz even to the very last round after dropping him three times during the to fight. Looking ahead, Ruiz should be ready to fight Wilder next, surely the two formidable boxers will put a great show.
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I was wrong I thought it will not go the distance both fighters are powerful punchers but yet they both have a granite chin, I admire Kingkong for getting up every time he goes down he is still strong and can take the fight to the limit, at 43 and with many fresh faces coming in the heavyweight division his chances to be world champion is slim with this recent loss, he also says that he will still continue to fight maybe until he gets busted, the mind is the last to give up even though the body is still can and that what categorize Kingkong Ortiz.

That was an entertaining fight, I like the exchanges, it does not make us boring. Also, I'm impressed with the stamina of Ortiz, he got knocked down many times but he always stand up to continue fighting. Now, we have a title eliminator, hopefully Ruiz will be given a chance to fight for a championship fight again. I like how he maintain his body, he looks strong at that body as that's his normal.
Ruiz will surely have that chance mate because with this win(though of course he is in advantage) yet he shows how strong and tough being fighter he is.
though there is a long line for championship  but His name would be one of the boxer that will be on list.
Congratulation for the win though.

This is a WBC title eliminator but there's an ongoing negotiation between Fury and Joshua and the WBC is agreeing for this fight to underway even giving a special designation to Joshua so the fight will push through if the fight failed to materialize then Ruiz will get into the picture but for now, the boxing community wants the Joshua - Fury to push through because it was schedule years ago but failed to mateialize.
Yes and I think Ruiz will not have a problem with that, just stepping aside and wait for the Fury (WBC champion) to fight AJ in UK for all British showdown. And so he will have months to take a rest and heal this body, prepare his mind on whoever win that fight, he will have a crack at him later, so win-win for Ruiz. And he still has the power to knockout everyone is the heavyweight division so that will be a problem for his opponents.

Do you all think that Ruiz deserves a set-aside fee for getting out of the picture and letting the Fury - Joshua go on, this is a WBC title eliminator he deserves to be the next in line for the title, but knowing gRuiz he is not the kind of who imposes his right but let's see in the coming weeks if the Joshua - Fury will materialize which we all want to happen, but it case it did not Ruiz deserves to be the next challenger, since he won a title eliminator and he wins very impressive.
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I was wrong I thought it will not go the distance both fighters are powerful punchers but yet they both have a granite chin, I admire Kingkong for getting up every time he goes down he is still strong and can take the fight to the limit, at 43 and with many fresh faces coming in the heavyweight division his chances to be world champion is slim with this recent loss, he also says that he will still continue to fight maybe until he gets busted, the mind is the last to give up even though the body is still can and that what categorize Kingkong Ortiz.

Who would have thought that this fight would go the distance after that knockdowns in the second round. That Ortiz is one tough old man, he recovered and almost win the fight if not for that three knockdowns he could have that decision win.

My gamble paid off as I bet for Ruiz via decision, I reviewed the tape of the previous fights of Ortiz and found out that this is tough though, only lost to Wilder by TKO (Wilder is on another lever compared to Ruiz) so i decided to go for the decision win by Ruiz.



Congratulations on your win mate, although we are already speculating that Andy will be the one winning in this fight but I didn't expected that the fight will last a full 12 round after Ortiz was knocked down twice in the 2nd round and once in 7th but the latter managed to pull all his strength after that and finished the whole fight. In my take, Luis Ortiz deserves a credit for finishing the whole fight after what he endured in the early rounds.
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I was wrong I thought it will not go the distance both fighters are powerful punchers but yet they both have a granite chin, I admire Kingkong for getting up every time he goes down he is still strong and can take the fight to the limit, at 43 and with many fresh faces coming in the heavyweight division his chances to be world champion is slim with this recent loss, he also says that he will still continue to fight maybe until he gets busted, the mind is the last to give up even though the body is still can and that what categorize Kingkong Ortiz.

That was an entertaining fight, I like the exchanges, it does not make us boring. Also, I'm impressed with the stamina of Ortiz, he got knocked down many times but he always stand up to continue fighting. Now, we have a title eliminator, hopefully Ruiz will be given a chance to fight for a championship fight again. I like how he maintain his body, he looks strong at that body as that's his normal.
Ruiz will surely have that chance mate because with this win(though of course he is in advantage) yet he shows how strong and tough being fighter he is.
though there is a long line for championship  but His name would be one of the boxer that will be on list.
Congratulation for the win though.

This is a WBC title eliminator but there's an ongoing negotiation between Fury and Joshua and the WBC is agreeing for this fight to underway even giving a special designation to Joshua so the fight will push through if the fight failed to materialize then Ruiz will get into the picture but for now, the boxing community wants the Joshua - Fury to push through because it was schedule years ago but failed to mateialize.
Yes and I think Ruiz will not have a problem with that, just stepping aside and wait for the Fury (WBC champion) to fight AJ in UK for all British showdown. And so he will have months to take a rest and heal this body, prepare his mind on whoever win that fight, he will have a crack at him later, so win-win for Ruiz. And he still has the power to knockout everyone is the heavyweight division so that will be a problem for his opponents.
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I was wrong I thought it will not go the distance both fighters are powerful punchers but yet they both have a granite chin, I admire Kingkong for getting up every time he goes down he is still strong and can take the fight to the limit, at 43 and with many fresh faces coming in the heavyweight division his chances to be world champion is slim with this recent loss, he also says that he will still continue to fight maybe until he gets busted, the mind is the last to give up even though the body is still can and that what categorize Kingkong Ortiz.

Who would have thought that this fight would go the distance after that knockdowns in the second round. That Ortiz is one tough old man, he recovered and almost win the fight if not for that three knockdowns he could have that decision win.

My gamble paid off as I bet for Ruiz via decision, I reviewed the tape of the previous fights of Ortiz and found out that this is tough though, only lost to Wilder by TKO (Wilder is on another lever compared to Ruiz) so i decided to go for the decision win by Ruiz.

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I was wrong I thought it will not go the distance both fighters are powerful punchers but yet they both have a granite chin, I admire Kingkong for getting up every time he goes down he is still strong and can take the fight to the limit, at 43 and with many fresh faces coming in the heavyweight division his chances to be world champion is slim with this recent loss, he also says that he will still continue to fight maybe until he gets busted, the mind is the last to give up even though the body is still can and that what categorize Kingkong Ortiz.

That was an entertaining fight, I like the exchanges, it does not make us boring. Also, I'm impressed with the stamina of Ortiz, he got knocked down many times but he always stand up to continue fighting. Now, we have a title eliminator, hopefully Ruiz will be given a chance to fight for a championship fight again. I like how he maintain his body, he looks strong at that body as that's his normal.
Ruiz will surely have that chance mate because with this win(though of course he is in advantage) yet he shows how strong and tough being fighter he is.
though there is a long line for championship  but His name would be one of the boxer that will be on list.
Congratulation for the win though.

This is a WBC title eliminator but there's an ongoing negotiation between Fury and Joshua and the WBC is agreeing for this fight to underway even giving a special designation to Joshua so the fight will push through if the fight failed to materialize then Ruiz will get into the picture but for now, the boxing community wants the Joshua - Fury to push through because it was schedule years ago but failed to mateialize.
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I was wrong I thought it will not go the distance both fighters are powerful punchers but yet they both have a granite chin, I admire Kingkong for getting up every time he goes down he is still strong and can take the fight to the limit, at 43 and with many fresh faces coming in the heavyweight division his chances to be world champion is slim with this recent loss, he also says that he will still continue to fight maybe until he gets busted, the mind is the last to give up even though the body is still can and that what categorize Kingkong Ortiz.

That was an entertaining fight, I like the exchanges, it does not make us boring. Also, I'm impressed with the stamina of Ortiz, he got knocked down many times but he always stand up to continue fighting. Now, we have a title eliminator, hopefully Ruiz will be given a chance to fight for a championship fight again. I like how he maintain his body, he looks strong at that body as that's his normal.
Ruiz will surely have that chance mate because with this win(though of course he is in advantage) yet he shows how strong and tough being fighter he is.
though there is a long line for championship  but His name would be one of the boxer that will be on list.
Congratulation for the win though.
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I was wrong I thought it will not go the distance both fighters are powerful punchers but yet they both have a granite chin, I admire Kingkong for getting up every time he goes down he is still strong and can take the fight to the limit, at 43 and with many fresh faces coming in the heavyweight division his chances to be world champion is slim with this recent loss, he also says that he will still continue to fight maybe until he gets busted, the mind is the last to give up even though the body is still can and that what categorize Kingkong Ortiz.

That was an entertaining fight, I like the exchanges, it does not make us boring. Also, I'm impressed with the stamina of Ortiz, he got knocked down many times but he always stand up to continue fighting. Now, we have a title eliminator, hopefully Ruiz will be given a chance to fight for a championship fight again. I like how he maintain his body, he looks strong at that body as that's his normal.
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I was wrong I thought it will not go the distance both fighters are powerful punchers but yet they both have a granite chin, I admire Kingkong for getting up every time he goes down he is still strong and can take the fight to the limit, at 43 and with many fresh faces coming in the heavyweight division his chances to be world champion is slim with this recent loss, he also says that he will still continue to fight maybe until he gets busted, the mind is the last to give up even though the body is still can and that what categorize Kingkong Ortiz.
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Its was an old boxing match, reminiscent of the 90's boxing, outslugging each outslugging each other thru the 12 round bouts. It was the youth of Ruiz that prevail in the end as he win in a decision, Judges Zachary Young (114-111). Eddie Hernandez (114-111) and Fernando Villareal (113-112). He knock down Ortiz twice in round 2 and again in round 7. And that it enough to win because as you can see on the score the fight can go either way if not for that knock down. Congrats to those who back up Andy Ruiz in this fight.

The guy is finally back with that kind of fight he is ready for another championship opportunity if given because this kind of weight class is rare to reach up to the last rounds. With some improvement in his jabs and power punches, he will likely be in boxing for a long time. I thought the other guy will go down easily but he fought until the last round too but not enough to take down Ruiz as he already prepared to go up to the last round as well and win the fight.

That's two good wins in a row by Ruiz he is ready for another championship fight, he is more serious now Ortiz is not an easy match, he'll now have to wait for the winner of the Usyk- Fury match, if the match will push through or if not he is a contender right away against Usyk, its a better match considering that they have the same height both fighters are technical and with fast hands compared to Fury, who will just impose height against him, you can't underestimate Ruiz when he is at his best and Ortiz comes to fight it could have been close those knock downs made a big difference.

Technically, he should be the next in line for WBC belt held by Tyson Fury. But boxing politics and business, so he had to wait for the Usyk vs Fury outcome and for sure he will have a crack at it.

However, Ruiz said in one interview that he want to have a rematch with Joshua, So let's see how it goes, Joshua is nursing from the defeat he had against Usyk but he said he want to have a comeback. So gonna be great to see if this fight happens.
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Its was an old boxing match, reminiscent of the 90's boxing, outslugging each outslugging each other thru the 12 round bouts. It was the youth of Ruiz that prevail in the end as he win in a decision, Judges Zachary Young (114-111). Eddie Hernandez (114-111) and Fernando Villareal (113-112). He knock down Ortiz twice in round 2 and again in round 7. And that it enough to win because as you can see on the score the fight can go either way if not for that knock down. Congrats to those who back up Andy Ruiz in this fight.

The guy is finally back with that kind of fight he is ready for another championship opportunity if given because this kind of weight class is rare to reach up to the last rounds. With some improvement in his jabs and power punches, he will likely be in boxing for a long time. I thought the other guy will go down easily but he fought until the last round too but not enough to take down Ruiz as he already prepared to go up to the last round as well and win the fight.

That's two good wins in a row by Ruiz he is ready for another championship fight, he is more serious now Ortiz is not an easy match, he'll now have to wait for the winner of the Usyk- Fury match, if the match will push through or if not he is a contender right away against Usyk, its a better match considering that they have the same height both fighters are technical and with fast hands compared to Fury, who will just impose height against him, you can't underestimate Ruiz when he is at his best and Ortiz comes to fight it could have been close those knock downs made a big difference.
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Its was an old boxing match, reminiscent of the 90's boxing, outslugging each outslugging each other thru the 12 round bouts. It was the youth of Ruiz that prevail in the end as he win in a decision, Judges Zachary Young (114-111). Eddie Hernandez (114-111) and Fernando Villareal (113-112). He knock down Ortiz twice in round 2 and again in round 7. And that it enough to win because as you can see on the score the fight can go either way if not for that knock down. Congrats to those who back up Andy Ruiz in this fight.

The guy is finally back with that kind of fight he is ready for another championship opportunity if given because this kind of weight class is rare to reach up to the last rounds. With some improvement in his jabs and power punches, he will likely be in boxing for a long time. I thought the other guy will go down easily but he fought until the last round too but not enough to take down Ruiz as he already prepared to go up to the last round as well and win the fight.
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Its was an old boxing match, reminiscent of the 90's boxing, outslugging each outslugging each other thru the 12 round bouts. It was the youth of Ruiz that prevail in the end as he win in a decision, Judges Zachary Young (114-111). Eddie Hernandez (114-111) and Fernando Villareal (113-112). He knock down Ortiz twice in round 2 and again in round 7. And that it enough to win because as you can see on the score the fight can go either way if not for that knock down. Congrats to those who back up Andy Ruiz in this fight.

I thought it will not go the distance as both fighters are knockout artists, and I also thought that Ruiz will finish Ortiz after every knockdown, the fast hooks are Ruiz's secret weapon in this fight the same one he uses when he beat Joshua, Ruiz could have won the match if not only for those three knockdowns he is good with his jab we have the same views on that if ever I'd like to see an Usyk- Ruiz bout more than the Ruiz - Fury fight, btw Ortiz also announces that he is not yet ready on hanging on his globes he still has it as we can see on this fight.
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I am not surprised by the outcome of this fight. Ortiz is 43 and he's been out of his prime for a while. He can still be competitive but against fighters of higher quality he might get seriously hurt. Ruiz is not in great shape and this will make it difficult for him to become champion again. He is always in slugfests so I'm sure we will see him against some high profile opponents in the future.
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Its was an old boxing match, reminiscent of the 90's boxing, outslugging each outslugging each other thru the 12 round bouts. It was the youth of Ruiz that prevail in the end as he win in a decision, Judges Zachary Young (114-111). Eddie Hernandez (114-111) and Fernando Villareal (113-112). He knock down Ortiz twice in round 2 and again in round 7. And that it enough to win because as you can see on the score the fight can go either way if not for that knock down. Congrats to those who back up Andy Ruiz in this fight.
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We hours away from this Big fight , have you already Put bets towards your Boxer? Have bet against  co worker and I am for Ortiz in this fight , though 100 bucks is small amount yet I can feel that before the day ends , i will take out that 3 digits amount to put in my pocket lol.

Go Ortiz , Beat Ruiz now  Grin

I consider this a risky bet if we based on both fighter's performance in their last fight and how they weigh for their fight, but I'm sure you've done your own assignment, I also bet against my friend and I'll go for Ruiz via knock out, whoever wins let's congratulate each other I'm looking for a slugfest match as both fighters need this win, my heart goes to Kingkong but my analysis goes to Ruiz, whoever wins deserves his win as both fighters are clean fighters, and they will not leave it to the judges.
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