Ruiz is the obvious favorite as far as the odds though. He is not that active though, so hopefully there will be no ring rust for him. Otherwise if Ortiz started to get hot in the early round and caught him with good shots then maybe it will have a serious consequence.
Still worth to watch this fight though, I mean two heavy banger and I would say that both are in the breaking point of their career. A lost will simply put them out of the contention.
Topic: RUIZ VS ORTIZ SUN, SEP 04, 2022 10PM ET EASTERN TIME/ - page 4. (Read 577 times)
I think Ruiz will win this fight. Ortiz is old. That's my first consideration. But Ortiz can punch. He can put an opponent to sleep. But I cannot say that he still has that power in his hands. Probably he's still got it, but he definitely has a lower limit now. He can't throw a number of them with his age.
But Ruiz on the other hand has been inactive for more than a year. And since he's given an Ortiz as an opponent, he could be doing a worse training than when he was about to face Joshua the second time around. So he might not be the strong Ruiz in this match. Ortiz still has a chance.
But Ruiz on the other hand has been inactive for more than a year. And since he's given an Ortiz as an opponent, he could be doing a worse training than when he was about to face Joshua the second time around. So he might not be the strong Ruiz in this match. Ortiz still has a chance.
now, i am thinking that this will be the retirement fight for ortiz, to get one last paycheck before hanging up the gloves. but who knows, he will hang up as winner if ruiz will not prepare this fight. being inactive may have an impact, but if ruiz is serious on this fight, his team will prepare hard so as not to second guess when he's inside the ring.
Anyone who knows it's his last fight will give it all but old age will stop him. Since this is a heavyweight, I would expect a KO both o them can throw as heavy as possible.
When the fight will last longer than the 5th round, Ruiz will beat Ortiz by points, or Ortiz will eventually be exhausted and be knocked by an uppercut.
Yes, that is the thing with Ortiz, his age so he gasses out early, in the Wilder fight, he really hurt Wilder and could be ahead on the judges score card if I'm not mistaken.
But as the round goes and progress, Ortiz gets tired and so Wilder takes advantage of it, and then deliver the knock out in round 7. I think that is the blue print on how to beat Ortiz.
I think Ruiz will win this fight. Ortiz is old. That's my first consideration. But Ortiz can punch. He can put an opponent to sleep. But I cannot say that he still has that power in his hands. Probably he's still got it, but he definitely has a lower limit now. He can't throw a number of them with his age.
But Ruiz on the other hand has been inactive for more than a year. And since he's given an Ortiz as an opponent, he could be doing a worse training than when he was about to face Joshua the second time around. So he might not be the strong Ruiz in this match. Ortiz still has a chance.
But Ruiz on the other hand has been inactive for more than a year. And since he's given an Ortiz as an opponent, he could be doing a worse training than when he was about to face Joshua the second time around. So he might not be the strong Ruiz in this match. Ortiz still has a chance.
now, i am thinking that this will be the retirement fight for ortiz, to get one last paycheck before hanging up the gloves. but who knows, he will hang up as winner if ruiz will not prepare this fight. being inactive may have an impact, but if ruiz is serious on this fight, his team will prepare hard so as not to second guess when he's inside the ring.
Anyone who knows it's his last fight will give it all but old age will stop him. Since this is a heavyweight, I would expect a KO both o them can throw as heavy as possible.
When the fight will last longer than the 5th round, Ruiz will beat Ortiz by points, or Ortiz will eventually be exhausted and be knocked by an uppercut.
Yes, that is the thing with Ortiz, his age so he gasses out early, in the Wilder fight, he really hurt Wilder and could be ahead on the judges score card if I'm not mistaken.
But as the round goes and progress, Ortiz gets tired and so Wilder takes advantage of it, and then deliver the knock out in round 7. I think that is the blue print on how to beat Ortiz.
I think Ruiz will win this fight. Ortiz is old.
When you consider age as a disadvantage, do you also consider the experience that this his age may bring as well and not just the perceived weakness. IMO, Ortiz is well aware of his age before opting for this fight, he knows what is at stake and knows very well that his age may be considered as a weakness. He will be working hard to prove those who think he has no chance in this fight wrong. He has a good shot at winning against Ruiz. It will be in the best interest of Ruiz's team not to write him off. 
Anyone who knows it's his last fight will give it all but old age will stop him. Since this is a heavyweight, I would expect a KO both o them can throw as heavy as possible.
When the fight will last longer than the 5th round, Ruiz will beat Ortiz by points, or Ortiz will eventually be exhausted and be knocked by an uppercut.
Ever since the heavyweight match in boxing are short and most likely will end up in knockout just like the era of Mike Tyson where the fight is not exciting when it last until 12 rounds, today's heavyweight boxers are the same, they will unleash their heavy punches in the early rounds and will gonna end it as soon as possible because most of them don't have enough stamina to last up to the last rounds and when they failed to knock out their opponent, they will be the one to fall due to exhausted.
I think Ruiz will win this fight. Ortiz is old. That's my first consideration. But Ortiz can punch. He can put an opponent to sleep. But I cannot say that he still has that power in his hands. Probably he's still got it, but he definitely has a lower limit now. He can't throw a number of them with his age.
But Ruiz on the other hand has been inactive for more than a year. And since he's given an Ortiz as an opponent, he could be doing a worse training than when he was about to face Joshua the second time around. So he might not be the strong Ruiz in this match. Ortiz still has a chance.
But Ruiz on the other hand has been inactive for more than a year. And since he's given an Ortiz as an opponent, he could be doing a worse training than when he was about to face Joshua the second time around. So he might not be the strong Ruiz in this match. Ortiz still has a chance.
now, i am thinking that this will be the retirement fight for ortiz, to get one last paycheck before hanging up the gloves. but who knows, he will hang up as winner if ruiz will not prepare this fight. being inactive may have an impact, but if ruiz is serious on this fight, his team will prepare hard so as not to second guess when he's inside the ring.
Anyone who knows it's his last fight will give it all but old age will stop him. Since this is a heavyweight, I would expect a KO both o them can throw as heavy as possible.
When the fight will last longer than the 5th round, Ruiz will beat Ortiz by points, or Ortiz will eventually be exhausted and be knocked by an uppercut.
It could be his last fight in his last fight there were signs that he cannot keep up, Martin knock him down with just a jab and if not for Martin's carelessness he could have knocked Ortiz out, but he is still dangerous if Ruiz will underestimate him what happens to Martin could only happen to him, this is a fight between a man who wants to hang on to his dream to become a champion and a man who wants to become champion again and prove that his win against Joshua is not just luck.
I think Ruiz will win this fight. Ortiz is old. That's my first consideration. But Ortiz can punch. He can put an opponent to sleep. But I cannot say that he still has that power in his hands. Probably he's still got it, but he definitely has a lower limit now. He can't throw a number of them with his age.
But Ruiz on the other hand has been inactive for more than a year. And since he's given an Ortiz as an opponent, he could be doing a worse training than when he was about to face Joshua the second time around. So he might not be the strong Ruiz in this match. Ortiz still has a chance.
But Ruiz on the other hand has been inactive for more than a year. And since he's given an Ortiz as an opponent, he could be doing a worse training than when he was about to face Joshua the second time around. So he might not be the strong Ruiz in this match. Ortiz still has a chance.
now, i am thinking that this will be the retirement fight for ortiz, to get one last paycheck before hanging up the gloves. but who knows, he will hang up as winner if ruiz will not prepare this fight. being inactive may have an impact, but if ruiz is serious on this fight, his team will prepare hard so as not to second guess when he's inside the ring.
Anyone who knows it's his last fight will give it all but old age will stop him. Since this is a heavyweight, I would expect a KO both o them can throw as heavy as possible.
When the fight will last longer than the 5th round, Ruiz will beat Ortiz by points, or Ortiz will eventually be exhausted and be knocked by an uppercut.
I think Ruiz will win this fight. Ortiz is old. That's my first consideration. But Ortiz can punch. He can put an opponent to sleep. But I cannot say that he still has that power in his hands. Probably he's still got it, but he definitely has a lower limit now. He can't throw a number of them with his age.
But Ruiz on the other hand has been inactive for more than a year. And since he's given an Ortiz as an opponent, he could be doing a worse training than when he was about to face Joshua the second time around. So he might not be the strong Ruiz in this match. Ortiz still has a chance.
But Ruiz on the other hand has been inactive for more than a year. And since he's given an Ortiz as an opponent, he could be doing a worse training than when he was about to face Joshua the second time around. So he might not be the strong Ruiz in this match. Ortiz still has a chance.
now, i am thinking that this will be the retirement fight for ortiz, to get one last paycheck before hanging up the gloves. but who knows, he will hang up as winner if ruiz will not prepare this fight. being inactive may have an impact, but if ruiz is serious on this fight, his team will prepare hard so as not to second guess when he's inside the ring.
This should be WBC title eliminator, and as we all know, Fury is the current belt holder, and then the former champion, Wilder is rank #1 by the organization.
So whoever wins here might have a crack on Tyson Fury (if he ever wants to fight again), or fight Wilder.
This is very important for the two boxers, and as the title of this fight, it's all or nothing, everything is on the line here, their careers, the potential big payday against Wilder or Fury.
And Ruiz is the favorite so far, at 1.2x vs 3.x on Luis Ortiz.
So whoever wins here might have a crack on Tyson Fury (if he ever wants to fight again), or fight Wilder.
This is very important for the two boxers, and as the title of this fight, it's all or nothing, everything is on the line here, their careers, the potential big payday against Wilder or Fury.
And Ruiz is the favorite so far, at 1.2x vs 3.x on Luis Ortiz.
I think Ruiz will win this fight. Ortiz is old. That's my first consideration. But Ortiz can punch. He can put an opponent to sleep. But I cannot say that he still has that power in his hands. Probably he's still got it, but he definitely has a lower limit now. He can't throw a number of them with his age.
But Ruiz on the other hand has been inactive for more than a year. And since he's given an Ortiz as an opponent, he could be doing a worse training than when he was about to face Joshua the second time around. So he might not be the strong Ruiz in this match. Ortiz still has a chance.
But Ruiz on the other hand has been inactive for more than a year. And since he's given an Ortiz as an opponent, he could be doing a worse training than when he was about to face Joshua the second time around. So he might not be the strong Ruiz in this match. Ortiz still has a chance.
Have you seen his last fight against Martin, Martin was all over him I thought he was going to knock Ortiz out because he knock him down twice until that huge big straight hit Martin's face that shake Martin's, both fighters are good finishers they just need to land one big punch and its all over, whoever gets his punch first will win the fight, Ortiz's legs are questionable in his last fight he stumbles a lot even when hit by a job, so I'll go for Ruiz on this fight the winner of this match deserves to be a contender for the heavyweight belt.
I think Ruiz will win this fight. Ortiz is old. That's my first consideration. But Ortiz can punch. He can put an opponent to sleep. But I cannot say that he still has that power in his hands. Probably he's still got it, but he definitely has a lower limit now. He can't throw a number of them with his age.
But Ruiz on the other hand has been inactive for more than a year. And since he's given an Ortiz as an opponent, he could be doing a worse training than when he was about to face Joshua the second time around. So he might not be the strong Ruiz in this match. Ortiz still has a chance.
But Ruiz on the other hand has been inactive for more than a year. And since he's given an Ortiz as an opponent, he could be doing a worse training than when he was about to face Joshua the second time around. So he might not be the strong Ruiz in this match. Ortiz still has a chance.
Not sure why Ortiz is still fighting as his age, I mean this is the Heavyweight division, sooner or later those wear and tear are going to show up. Although I will agree that he won his two last fights after he was KO by Wilder in 2019, but those two fighters also hit him hard. Against Charles Martin he was twice, rounds 1 and 4. Imagine what will a power puncher like Ruiz will do to him if he hits him solid in the chin with all the force, it will be quick KO win for Ruiz.
The issue is now with Ortiz is obviously his age, but he can still throw those bombs though, and you don't know, maybe it will hit Ruiz somewhat and put a dent on his chin. But then again, Ruiz is also a hard hitter, we've seen what he has done to AJ on their first fight.
Yeah, most likely under 10.5 round for this fight. As both will try to make a slugfest early, contest as to who will hit the homerun first. So I also see Ruiz winning by stoppage maybe in the mid to round 10.
Yeah, most likely under 10.5 round for this fight. As both will try to make a slugfest early, contest as to who will hit the homerun first. So I also see Ruiz winning by stoppage maybe in the mid to round 10.
Both fighters need the win so whoever wants it most will win it, for me, Ruiz has a better chance here he is a young fighter hungry to get back on track again.
He really given a chance to prove himself once again and Ruiz was really promising fighter given that he managed to knock out the champion himself back then and beat him to win the belt, he can still be a star in the heavyweight division when he will show the world how heavy his punch to beat Ortiz in their upcoming fight. Looks like this is really a comeback fight for him because he hasn't been around since he lost his last fights, coming back as a 100% healthy heavy puncher will boost his chance to make a comeback.
This is Ruiz's biggest test if he is ready for another crack at the heavyweight title, he should not underestimate Kingkong Ortiz this guy has knockout power, and his recent win against Martin shows how resilient he is, I thought Ortiz will lose the bout because he was down and outboxed by Martin until he hit Martin with a big shot, Ortiz is very dangerous even when he is being hit by big shots, Ruiz should prepare for this fight he should not consider Ortiz's age which is now 43 years old.
if both are active, even if ortiz is now 43, he can still put up a very good fight. so yeah, ruiz should not underestimate ortiz here because of his age. it may have a slight influence if ortiz is not active for years. ruiz can take advantage of being the younger blood here but should prepare as hard as he can because it is no easy fight for him.
early odds is showing ruiz as the highly favourite to win here. so if you are rooting for ortiz, this is a very good chance to place bet on him being the underdog of this fight.
Ruiz is probably the most mismanaged boxer after knocking out Joshua he mismanaged his training and eventually lost against Joshua in their rematch, his last fight is not good either against Arreola not the kind of fight that will make him a hot item again, so he really need to win this fight he is still at his prime at 33, I think he is more serious now.
On Ortiz, this could be his last card to get a title shot for the last time he is already 43 years old after his failed two title shots against Deontay Wilder, he is in the twilight of his career if not for a knockout win against Martin people could write him off.
Both fighters need the win so whoever wants it most will win it, for me, Ruiz has a better chance here he is a young fighter hungry to get back on track again.
The only reason i do not want to pick Andy Ruiz is because he is not fully focused on his training after the Anthony Joshua win because fame and money has derailed his focus and changed fight camps and i am not sure where he has settled now and who will be overlooking his preparation and on the other hand Luis Ortiz is a knockout fighter and the only disadvantage he got is his age and most probably that will have an affect on his speed. Will pick the fighter closer to the bout as i want to see how Andy Ruiz is preparing for this fight and then make a decision.On Ortiz, this could be his last card to get a title shot for the last time he is already 43 years old after his failed two title shots against Deontay Wilder, he is in the twilight of his career if not for a knockout win against Martin people could write him off.
Both fighters need the win so whoever wants it most will win it, for me, Ruiz has a better chance here he is a young fighter hungry to get back on track again.
Have you seen his physique now? He looks really fit for the fight following a strict diet. I don't now how else he could be more completely focused than that. He also said in his interview that he's been watching a lot of King Kong fights. We already know his hand speed and the power he has in his punches but yet to see his movement with a much lighter body. I'll take him over Luis.
Ruiz is probably the most mismanaged boxer after knocking out Joshua he mismanaged his training and eventually lost against Joshua in their rematch, his last fight is not good either against Arreola not the kind of fight that will make him a hot item again, so he really need to win this fight he is still at his prime at 33, I think he is more serious now.
On Ortiz, this could be his last card to get a title shot for the last time he is already 43 years old after his failed two title shots against Deontay Wilder, he is in the twilight of his career if not for a knockout win against Martin people could write him off.
Both fighters need the win so whoever wants it most will win it, for me, Ruiz has a better chance here he is a young fighter hungry to get back on track again.
The only reason i do not want to pick Andy Ruiz is because he is not fully focused on his training after the Anthony Joshua win because fame and money has derailed his focus and changed fight camps and i am not sure where he has settled now and who will be overlooking his preparation and on the other hand Luis Ortiz is a knockout fighter and the only disadvantage he got is his age and most probably that will have an affect on his speed. Will pick the fighter closer to the bout as i want to see how Andy Ruiz is preparing for this fight and then make a decision. On Ortiz, this could be his last card to get a title shot for the last time he is already 43 years old after his failed two title shots against Deontay Wilder, he is in the twilight of his career if not for a knockout win against Martin people could write him off.
Both fighters need the win so whoever wants it most will win it, for me, Ruiz has a better chance here he is a young fighter hungry to get back on track again.
This is the fight of the hard hitter both fighters are on a comeback trail to have another crack at the World Heavyweight Champion, for me this bout is almost even but I take Ruiz to win this fight as he has fresh legs and wants to prove that he still has what it takes to win a title again, I expect the bout to end early as both fighters are known to be a hard hitter.
So who's your bet to win here?
So who's your bet to win here?
On the one hand, your argument and reasoning are quite convincing. Of course, as we all know, with heavyweights and equal boxers like Ruiz and Ortiz, anything can happen. But in my opinion, Ortiz has a better chance. I'm not making a decision yet and will read the experts opinions first, but today I'm more willing to bet on Ortiz.
I think this will be an exciting match-up for both Andy Ruiz and Luiz Ortiz has a good record both have more than 30 wins and both have only 2 losses, this is the 1st time these two would fight, to simply put it Andy Ruiz for his size has the speed in those punches and has accuracy as well that would like to be his advantage but for me, Luiz Ortiz got the power, he can simply put out Ruiz with just a good combination this could be very difficult to predict fight in my opinion
Andy Ruiz's great fight in my opinion was his win against Anthony Joshua back on Jun 1, 2019, it was a very great fight from Ruiz Anthony Joshua has the height and reach advantage but Andy Ruiz is pushing Joshua away, and I think that is very legitimate, that Andy Ruiz surely has the upper hand, on their rematch that could be a win for Ruiz but yeah he underestimated Joshua in their rematch,
Luiz Ortiz's great fight was with Charles Martin king kong was knockdown by Martin in the 1st round and so Charles Martin thought he can get the upper hand but Luiz Ortiz was having the advantage over rounds 4 to 6 but in Round 4 Ortiz was dropped down again but was smiling again it's like he is saying OK good job while on round 6 Ortiz got a good shot on Martin he was wobbled on the 2nd knockdown of the round 6, then the referee stops the fight
For me based on their performance, I think I like Andy Ruiz's technique with that fast pace shots I think he can get a clean hit on Luiz Ortiz,
Andy Ruiz's great fight in my opinion was his win against Anthony Joshua back on Jun 1, 2019, it was a very great fight from Ruiz Anthony Joshua has the height and reach advantage but Andy Ruiz is pushing Joshua away, and I think that is very legitimate, that Andy Ruiz surely has the upper hand, on their rematch that could be a win for Ruiz but yeah he underestimated Joshua in their rematch,
Luiz Ortiz's great fight was with Charles Martin king kong was knockdown by Martin in the 1st round and so Charles Martin thought he can get the upper hand but Luiz Ortiz was having the advantage over rounds 4 to 6 but in Round 4 Ortiz was dropped down again but was smiling again it's like he is saying OK good job while on round 6 Ortiz got a good shot on Martin he was wobbled on the 2nd knockdown of the round 6, then the referee stops the fight
For me based on their performance, I think I like Andy Ruiz's technique with that fast pace shots I think he can get a clean hit on Luiz Ortiz,
Both fighters need the win so whoever wants it most will win it, for me, Ruiz has a better chance here he is a young fighter hungry to get back on track again.
He really given a chance to prove himself once again and Ruiz was really promising fighter given that he managed to knock out the champion himself back then and beat him to win the belt, he can still be a star in the heavyweight division when he will show the world how heavy his punch to beat Ortiz in their upcoming fight. Looks like this is really a comeback fight for him because he hasn't been around since he lost his last fights, coming back as a 100% healthy heavy puncher will boost his chance to make a comeback.
This is Ruiz's biggest test if he is ready for another crack at the heavyweight title, he should not underestimate Kingkong Ortiz this guy has knockout power, and his recent win against Martin shows how resilient he is, I thought Ortiz will lose the bout because he was down and outboxed by Martin until he hit Martin with a big shot, Ortiz is very dangerous even when he is being hit by big shots, Ruiz should prepare for this fight he should not consider Ortiz's age which is now 43 years old.
Both fighters need the win so whoever wants it most will win it, for me, Ruiz has a better chance here he is a young fighter hungry to get back on track again.
He really given a chance to prove himself once again and Ruiz was really promising fighter given that he managed to knock out the champion himself back then and beat him to win the belt, he can still be a star in the heavyweight division when he will show the world how heavy his punch to beat Ortiz in their upcoming fight. Looks like this is really a comeback fight for him because he hasn't been around since he lost his last fights, coming back as a 100% healthy heavy puncher will boost his chance to make a comeback.
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