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Topic: RUIZ VS ORTIZ SUN, SEP 04, 2022 10PM ET EASTERN TIME/ - page 2. (Read 572 times)

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We hours away from this Big fight , have you already Put bets towards your Boxer? Have bet against  co worker and I am for Ortiz in this fight , though 100 bucks is small amount yet I can feel that before the day ends , i will take out that 3 digits amount to put in my pocket lol.

Go Ortiz , Beat Ruiz now  Grin
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I'm expecting a entertaining fight, both could have their moments. So let's see which one can get it first because I'm not expecting this fight to go to the distance. Someone will have to get knock out here, hehehe.


It's unlikely to go the distance both fighters are always a punch away from victory, this is a fight worth watching even if there's no belt at stake, its great to watch a fight where both fighters are knock-out artists and they are staying to be in title contention, both fighters cannot afford to lose, even if they won their last matches, they already challenged for the title and this could possibly be their last chance for a title shot.

King Kong though is very slim but very define at his fighting weight of 245 lbs and it seems that he really trained very hard for this fight although he is the underdog here.

Yes, this is there last chance, winner will have a crack at Tyson Fury's WBC belt as this has been sanctioned by them as a title eliminator. But there is already talks of a Fury vs Usyk fight for unification.
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I'm expecting a entertaining fight, both could have their moments. So let's see which one can get it first because I'm not expecting this fight to go to the distance. Someone will have to get knock out here, hehehe.


It's unlikely to go the distance both fighters are always a punch away from victory, this is a fight worth watching even if there's no belt at stake, its great to watch a fight where both fighters are knock-out artists and they are staying to be in title contention, both fighters cannot afford to lose, even if they won their last matches, they already challenged for the title and this could possibly be their last chance for a title shot.
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I'm expecting a entertaining fight, both could have their moments. So let's see which one can get it first because I'm not expecting this fight to go to the distance. Someone will have to get knock out here, hehehe.

This would be an entertaining fight indeed. Seems like Ruiz really trains hard for this as he looks trimmed or he put more muscles unlike in his previous fights (just my observation on the weigh-in).

As i have said in my previous post that I have a change of heart regarding this fight as I will be betting for Ruiz on this one because he got more speed than Kingkong. Will be betting for Ruiz via KO but will allocate some for Ruiz via decision as well in case this would go the distance.

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Obviously as this is a heavyweight fight, both of them made it in the scale:

Andy Ruiz - 268 ¾ lbs
Luis Ortiz - 245.4 lbs

Here is the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7OW2paxxtA

I'm expecting a entertaining fight, both could have their moments. So let's see which one can get it first because I'm not expecting this fight to go to the distance. Someone will have to get knock out here, hehehe.
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Ruiz weighs in the same as when he fought Joshua he is light now compared to his last two fights, this is good news to those rooting for Ruiz, Ruiz was overweight in his last fights against Joshua and is very light when he faced Chris Arreola he will be faster and stronger with his weight, he really prepared for this fight as he knows that Ortiz is coming from a strong win against Martin, both fighters need this win because the loser will be on a hard climb to come back if it is Ortiz that could be his time to retire.

Wait, I think Ortiz best form was when he beat Joshua, in the rematch, he lose weight to be faster but he ended up losing the fight. Well, that was the biggest fight of his career, so hopefully, he will get a win here and who knows, he can have a big fight next like a championship fight. Or how about a trilogy with Joshua? For sure Ruiz will be confident as Joshua came from 2 straight losses.
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Ruiz weighs in the same as when he fought Joshua he is light now compared to his last two fights, this is good news to those rooting for Ruiz, Ruiz was overweight in his last fights against Joshua and is very light when he faced Chris Arreola he will be faster and stronger with his weight, he really prepared for this fight as he knows that Ortiz is coming from a strong win against Martin, both fighters need this win because the loser will be on a hard climb to come back if it is Ortiz that could be his time to retire.
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Well from my few analysis this would be a very tough fight, but one thing to be considered is that age their age factor most especially Luis Ortiz. He would probably lost the fight to Andy Ruiz since he is smarter and vibrant also much younger.
Well let not give full credit to Ruiz because the game might change and Luis could be emerged the winner.
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You guys expect this fight to end by knockout under 9.5 rounds because bookies think that also as what they put in the odds for that option.

Looking at the knockout rate of both fighters which for me are high, i also that either fighter would sleep in the canvass and i'm thinking that it would be Andy Ruiz. Twice Ortiz lost to Wilder and that was expected as Wilder was is far superior than Ortiz but against the smaller Ruiz, i guess the latter would struggle just like on his rematch with Joshua.

Still good odds mate for this fight, yeah, everyone is expecting that this fight will not last that long, or you are the just the one expecting a decision win here here by Luis Ortiz hehehe.

But yes, I'm on the bandwagon, if Ortiz is going to win, he should do it very fast and early and not allow the fight to go to distance because in his last couple of fights, he always gasses out and that's why he gets KO late like in the Wilder fight.

TBH, i have not watch a single fight involving Ortiz so thanks for this info mate, with this i'm now inclined to a win by Ruiz via knockout because judging from his Johua fight, he is aggressive and relentless so if Ortiz gasses out in the middle rounds then i think it would be over for him under the ninth round. Ruiz by KO @1.78 is not bad at all, much way better than the ML.

If we based on this past fight then without a doubt for sure he can knockdown Ortiz in their match but I think that's not just an easy way because we l know that in this fight Ortiz aiming a victory so for sure that he will give his best for this fight also they have both a gold record for 32wins 2 loses and 0 draws which they are doing great in their individual career in the world of boxing. For this fight, Ruiz has a big chance to win but he needs to be more vigilant and don't underestimate Ortiz
Ruiz has a better record and experience so I might say that he has an edge here but he shouldn't be too confident because Ortiz is also preparing so well for this match. He should be too observant and should know how to counter the possible punches that Ortiz might throw him. It will be a good and exciting match but I guess, Ruiz will be the favorite here.
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You guys expect this fight to end by knockout under 9.5 rounds because bookies think that also as what they put in the odds for that option.

Looking at the knockout rate of both fighters which for me are high, i also that either fighter would sleep in the canvass and i'm thinking that it would be Andy Ruiz. Twice Ortiz lost to Wilder and that was expected as Wilder was is far superior than Ortiz but against the smaller Ruiz, i guess the latter would struggle just like on his rematch with Joshua.

Still good odds mate for this fight, yeah, everyone is expecting that this fight will not last that long, or you are the just the one expecting a decision win here here by Luis Ortiz hehehe.

But yes, I'm on the bandwagon, if Ortiz is going to win, he should do it very fast and early and not allow the fight to go to distance because in his last couple of fights, he always gasses out and that's why he gets KO late like in the Wilder fight.

TBH, i have not watch a single fight involving Ortiz so thanks for this info mate, with this i'm now inclined to a win by Ruiz via knockout because judging from his Johua fight, he is aggressive and relentless so if Ortiz gasses out in the middle rounds then i think it would be over for him under the ninth round. Ruiz by KO @1.78 is not bad at all, much way better than the ML.

If we based on this past fight then without a doubt for sure he can knockdown Ortiz in their match but I think that's not just an easy way because we l know that in this fight Ortiz aiming a victory so for sure that he will give his best for this fight also they have both a gold record for 32wins 2 loses and 0 draws which they are doing great in their individual career in the world of boxing. For this fight Ruiz has a big chance to win but he need to be more vigilant and don't underestimate Ortiz
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So whoever loss in this fight, he needs to make some big decisions in the future, whether to continue to work or just quit it completely.

For Ortiz maybe retirement is possible if he lose, but for Ruiz, I think he is still young and can still fight. Well, I'm not thinking he would retire though as I am confident he will win this fight and would probably have a big fight after this.

Well, those are major decisions, although I would choose to stay longer, the older the boxers are, the more experience they have, and there is something that many boxers do not see, and that is that the older boxers have almost everything calculated, because they know their bodies very well. and they are capable of doing anything to win a fight because they know every inch of what can happen technically, for me it is a great option if it is for the benefit of the sport and not for the business model that boxing represents, this is something that must be noted, that the boxer is always with the best of all dispositions and goes out to give a good show.

You guys expect this fight to end by knockout under 9.5 rounds because bookies think that also as what they put in the odds for that option.

Looking at the knockout rate of both fighters which for me are high, i also that either fighter would sleep in the canvass and i'm thinking that it would be Andy Ruiz. Twice Ortiz lost to Wilder and that was expected as Wilder was is far superior than Ortiz but against the smaller Ruiz, i guess the latter would struggle just like on his rematch with Joshua.

Still good odds mate for this fight, yeah, everyone is expecting that this fight will not last that long, or you are the just the one expecting a decision win here here by Luis Ortiz hehehe.

But yes, I'm on the bandwagon, if Ortiz is going to win, he should do it very fast and early and not allow the fight to go to distance because in his last couple of fights, he always gasses out and that's why he gets KO late like in the Wilder fight.

TBH, i have not watch a single fight involving Ortiz so thanks for this info mate, with this i'm now inclined to a win by Ruiz via knockout because judging from his Johua fight, he is aggressive and relentless so if Ortiz gasses out in the middle rounds then i think it would be over for him under the ninth round. Ruiz by KO @1.78 is not bad at all, much way better than the ML.

Wow this is something that can certainly happen, but to say that Ortiz will give a knockout is something quite strong, because if it happens as they say, Ortiz may go out with everything to give a knockout, but if he does not give it, all the wear and tear that implies Putting in to give a knockout is exhausting, if just resisting exhausts you, making the effort at the beginning is a good thing, but with results, otherwise you have to stick to what comes later, there are boxers who know how to fight sticking to what comes to them, and This may be a virtue of Ruiz, also if the ocsa happen like this, he has no other choice unless Ruiz goes with the same strategy and looks for a knockout, which would be very interesting.
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You guys expect this fight to end by knockout under 9.5 rounds because bookies think that also as what they put in the odds for that option.

Looking at the knockout rate of both fighters which for me are high, i also that either fighter would sleep in the canvass and i'm thinking that it would be Andy Ruiz. Twice Ortiz lost to Wilder and that was expected as Wilder was is far superior than Ortiz but against the smaller Ruiz, i guess the latter would struggle just like on his rematch with Joshua.

Still good odds mate for this fight, yeah, everyone is expecting that this fight will not last that long, or you are the just the one expecting a decision win here here by Luis Ortiz hehehe.

But yes, I'm on the bandwagon, if Ortiz is going to win, he should do it very fast and early and not allow the fight to go to distance because in his last couple of fights, he always gasses out and that's why he gets KO late like in the Wilder fight.

TBH, i have not watch a single fight involving Ortiz so thanks for this info mate, with this i'm now inclined to a win by Ruiz via knockout because judging from his Johua fight, he is aggressive and relentless so if Ortiz gasses out in the middle rounds then i think it would be over for him under the ninth round. Ruiz by KO @1.78 is not bad at all, much way better than the ML.
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You guys expect this fight to end by knockout under 9.5 rounds because bookies think that also as what they put in the odds for that option.

Looking at the knockout rate of both fighters which for me are high, i also that either fighter would sleep in the canvass and i'm thinking that it would be Andy Ruiz. Twice Ortiz lost to Wilder and that was expected as Wilder was is far superior than Ortiz but against the smaller Ruiz, i guess the latter would struggle just like on his rematch with Joshua.

Still good odds mate for this fight, yeah, everyone is expecting that this fight will not last that long, or you are the just the one expecting a decision win here here by Luis Ortiz hehehe.

But yes, I'm on the bandwagon, if Ortiz is going to win, he should do it very fast and early and not allow the fight to go to distance because in his last couple of fights, he always gasses out and that's why he gets KO late like in the Wilder fight.
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This is the Heavyweight division and everything can change in just one punch. And both of this boxers can knock out anyone with just one punch and that is why they are predicting a knock out.

We will see though if this is going to be a title eliminator, or the winner rightfully facing the WBC champion in Tyson Fury. Because there are rumors that he is not going to retire because and would very much fight Usyk. So let's see, the winner might have to wait though.

Whoever wins here is the rightful challenger to any of the world titles be it the WBC, WBA or IBF but if WBC will have their way, the Fury -Usyk will have to wait, and Fury if he wants to retain and take hold of the title he needs to fight the winner of this fight, but if Fury doesn't want to retain the WBC and go straight to the Usyk match then there could be an interim match, which the WBC will decide, there are so many speculations now. 

Fury really has a lot of challenges to take in the future for him to maintain his title. There are lots of boxers who want to beat him because of his consistent winning record. Fury is an in-demand boxer right now and I guess he should take advantage of the many opportunities in front of him. However, he has to go through Usyk first who seems ready to face him on the ring.

I agree, Tyson Fury should just take this advantages first to gain more money while he is still hot and in-demand because this situation won't last long if he will go through Usyk first for an undisputed fight as his record will be threaten in that match. Tyson Fury surely has the advantages needed to defeat Usyk but the latter is also a proven KO artist like him and their KO rate is not that wide in gap.
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You guys expect this fight to end by knockout under 9.5 rounds because bookies think that also as what they put in the odds for that option.

Looking at the knockout rate of both fighters which for me are high, i also that either fighter would sleep in the canvass and i'm thinking that it would be Andy Ruiz. Twice Ortiz lost to Wilder and that was expected as Wilder was is far superior than Ortiz but against the smaller Ruiz, i guess the latter would struggle just like on his rematch with Joshua.

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This is the Heavyweight division and everything can change in just one punch. And both of this boxers can knock out anyone with just one punch and that is why they are predicting a knock out.

We will see though if this is going to be a title eliminator, or the winner rightfully facing the WBC champion in Tyson Fury. Because there are rumors that he is not going to retire because and would very much fight Usyk. So let's see, the winner might have to wait though.

Whoever wins here is the rightful challenger to any of the world titles be it the WBC, WBA or IBF but if WBC will have their way, the Fury -Usyk will have to wait, and Fury if he wants to retain and take hold of the title he needs to fight the winner of this fight, but if Fury doesn't want to retain the WBC and go straight to the Usyk match then there could be an interim match, which the WBC will decide, there are so many speculations now. 

Fury really has a lot of challenges to take in the future for him to maintain his title. There are lots of boxers who want to beat him because of his consistent winning record. Fury is an in-demand boxer right now and I guess he should take advantage of the many opportunities in front of him. However, he has to go through Usyk first who seems ready to face him on the ring.
Yes, Usyk is most likely the fight that Fury is going to make and not the winner of this fight. But he is asking for so much money, 500 M £? that is huge, but then again when the demand for that fight to happen is very big specially who is going to be his dance partner, for sure there is something that they can do to make the fight and lots of money for Fury. So it make sense that whoever wins here will have to step aside for sometime.
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This is the Heavyweight division and everything can change in just one punch. And both of this boxers can knock out anyone with just one punch and that is why they are predicting a knock out.

We will see though if this is going to be a title eliminator, or the winner rightfully facing the WBC champion in Tyson Fury. Because there are rumors that he is not going to retire because and would very much fight Usyk. So let's see, the winner might have to wait though.

Whoever wins here is the rightful challenger to any of the world titles be it the WBC, WBA or IBF but if WBC will have their way, the Fury -Usyk will have to wait, and Fury if he wants to retain and take hold of the title he needs to fight the winner of this fight, but if Fury doesn't want to retain the WBC and go straight to the Usyk match then there could be an interim match, which the WBC will decide, there are so many speculations now. 

Fury really has a lot of challenges to take in the future for him to maintain his title. There are lots of boxers who want to beat him because of his consistent winning record. Fury is an in-demand boxer right now and I guess he should take advantage of the many opportunities in front of him. However, he has to go through Usyk first who seems ready to face him on the ring.
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This is the Heavyweight division and everything can change in just one punch. And both of this boxers can knock out anyone with just one punch and that is why they are predicting a knock out.

We will see though if this is going to be a title eliminator, or the winner rightfully facing the WBC champion in Tyson Fury. Because there are rumors that he is not going to retire because and would very much fight Usyk. So let's see, the winner might have to wait though.

Whoever wins here is the rightful challenger to any of the world titles be it the WBC, WBA or IBF but if WBC will have their way, the Fury -Usyk will have to wait, and Fury if he wants to retain and take hold of the title he needs to fight the winner of this fight, but if Fury doesn't want to retain the WBC and go straight to the Usyk match then there could be an interim match, which the WBC will decide, there are so many speculations now. 

Yep, again though, boxing is business and this fighters wanted to get the most money. Not saying that either fighter is not a challenge to Tyson Fury, but if you look at how big the money if Fury comes out of the retirement and fight Usyk, it will be huge, the guaranteed purse and then the live gate and PPV splits. So for sure, boxing organizations are going to prioritize this fight and the winner of this fight will have to wait before they get a crack on the champion. But still, this fight is very important for either Ruiz or Ortiz.

Fury is fully aware of the demand of the community, if Joshua wins the match there will be a trilogy, and Fury will just stay retire because no fighters who he thinks can match his skill and power, but Usyk happens to win the match and he has a claim as the greatest boxer of this generation, so now two fighters are claiming for the title and the boxing community wants a match to see who has the real claim for the title of the greatest, Fury will eventually agree to the best term his team can get but I don't think not that 500 million pounds, Fury cannot miss something as great as this.
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This is the Heavyweight division and everything can change in just one punch. And both of this boxers can knock out anyone with just one punch and that is why they are predicting a knock out.

We will see though if this is going to be a title eliminator, or the winner rightfully facing the WBC champion in Tyson Fury. Because there are rumors that he is not going to retire because and would very much fight Usyk. So let's see, the winner might have to wait though.

Whoever wins here is the rightful challenger to any of the world titles be it the WBC, WBA or IBF but if WBC will have their way, the Fury -Usyk will have to wait, and Fury if he wants to retain and take hold of the title he needs to fight the winner of this fight, but if Fury doesn't want to retain the WBC and go straight to the Usyk match then there could be an interim match, which the WBC will decide, there are so many speculations now. 

Yep, again though, boxing is business and this fighters wanted to get the most money. Not saying that either fighter is not a challenge to Tyson Fury, but if you look at how big the money if Fury comes out of the retirement and fight Usyk, it will be huge, the guaranteed purse and then the live gate and PPV splits. So for sure, boxing organizations are going to prioritize this fight and the winner of this fight will have to wait before they get a crack on the champion. But still, this fight is very important for either Ruiz or Ortiz.
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This is the Heavyweight division and everything can change in just one punch. And both of this boxers can knock out anyone with just one punch and that is why they are predicting a knock out.

We will see though if this is going to be a title eliminator, or the winner rightfully facing the WBC champion in Tyson Fury. Because there are rumors that he is not going to retire because and would very much fight Usyk. So let's see, the winner might have to wait though.

Whoever wins here is the rightful challenger to any of the world titles be it the WBC, WBA or IBF but if WBC will have their way, the Fury -Usyk will have to wait, and Fury if he wants to retain and take hold of the title he needs to fight the winner of this fight, but if Fury doesn't want to retain the WBC and go straight to the Usyk match then there could be an interim match, which the WBC will decide, there are so many speculations now. 
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