Russia has developed covid-19 vaccine.

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Quote from: BADecker on August 29, 2020, 08:17:35 PM

Russia simply wants to be first. It's a gamble.

Often the first guy to invent something is the guy who gets control of it in the world. That's what patents are all about.

Who cares if the vaccine is dangerous or not. We had it first, so we get the big prize. If we don't get the prize, oh well. It was a gamble, and we might lose a little.

But if we win, it will be worth billions.

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You have a point it's a big gamble for the Russian government and their scientist as well, they will either lose their reputation or recognized as the first to create an effective vaccine our country is collaborating with the Russian government, Russian has no bad reputation when it comes to medicine breakthrough, this is something that might get government to believe them, I hope their vaccine is really effective.

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in a situation that is still uncertain this is the best news that can make at least one hope that will solve the problem. for me there is no business how people say about covid-19 and I don't want to be trapped by the politicization of covid-19 which continues to grow . at this time it is clear that drugs and vaccines are needed if Russia has stated they have found it and some say there are no rules yet Russia has been through for me, there must be an appreciation from Russia to be able to appear bold enough to say about their vaccine. Legalization arrangements can be taken care of while on the move even though they do not rule out the rules, because time is running out and the fact that Covid-19 has not yet subsided.

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The Oxford Vaccine is looking very promising and is in stage 3 trials at the moment with over 30,000 volunteers.

I understand people's concerns about 'rushed' vaccines. But, the oxford vaccine is not in that position. It's an adjusted version of a vaccine developed to tackle the original SARS. Development was stopped as that outbreak was squashed. No shortcuts are being taken and stage 3 trials are part of the normal vaccine development schedule.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on September 01, 2020, 12:59:29 PM

I am not ready to receive any vaccine, the virus has really died down in my country, I wish it is just going like that. With this, I do not believe in any vaccine now. Our prevention has helped, with time the virus will go, that is just it. This vaccine is new, I can not take anything that can affect me later in life or that will after my offsprings or the generations to come. Our generation is becoming more prone to disease maybe because of modern days time and their ignorance about what they are developing in modern days.

That's all good and wonderful. But when they come to stab you, with a bunch of cops along for enforcement, what will you tell them legally so that they stop?

Read this one page http://voidjudgments.com/ to understand what they are required to do in court. Then go here - https://www.youtube.com/c/CraigLynch/videos - to understand how it is put into practice.

Start moving if you are in the States or Britain. Learn now before it's too late.

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I am not ready to receive any vaccine, the virus has really died down in my country, I wish it is just going like that. With this, I do not believe in any vaccine now. Our prevention has helped, with time the virus will go, that is just it. This vaccine is new, I can not take anything that can affect me later in life or that will after my offsprings or the generations to come. Our generation is becoming more prone to disease maybe because of modern days time and their ignorance about what they are developing in modern days.

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Just as a little update to all of this, Russia is continuing its campaign to hate the West with the following news report that was put out yesterday in Reuters.

A Russian official is saying that the Western world (in this case Britian, USA, and the rest of Europe) is now following their example and approving drugs before they've been fully tested. While I don't fully agree with his statements, as the US (FDA) and the British equivalent is only letting their vaccines go through IF they are shown to be safe and such, even if they're being fast tracked. Seems like Russia isn't following this same approach though, doubt that their vaccine is going to work at all.

They even named the thing Sputnik, an obvious jab at the US. Like what the fuck?

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The Russian vaccine - indeed every vaccine - are totally unnecessary regarding Covid. Why? Because the Covid-only death count is so small that we need protection from the other things way more. At least that's what the CDC says.

CDC Bombshell: Only Six Percent Of "Covid Deaths" From Only Covid!

Quote from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElN5nlGUAi8

The rest - a vast majority - had on average 2.6 serious additional diseases, with the addition in most cases of extreme advanced age. Is it time to begin litigating the damage done to the US and the world from the lockdown policies? Also today: the "largest protest in German history" over the weekend, as estimated millions turned out to oppose mandatory masks and lockdowns. Similar protests took place in London and in Spain. In the US...mostly silence.

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Russia simply wants to be first. It's a gamble.

Often the first guy to invent something is the guy who gets control of it in the world. That's what patents are all about.

Who cares if the vaccine is dangerous or not. We had it first, so we get the big prize. If we don't get the prize, oh well. It was a gamble, and we might lose a little.

But if we win, it will be worth billions.

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Quote from: akram143 on August 25, 2020, 09:25:28 AM

Why they have to report it to the WHO? WHO is not going to create a vaccine they are just here for nothing and RUSSIA continuously reported everything through media but may not be much transparent in what they are said and this happens with every government as well because in this vaccine race every government wants to win.

The meaning of the organization tells it.

We are in the pandemic and they are the governing body giving information from one country to another country. If they don't have to report to WHO, they don't have to report that they were already in the most recent phase.

Media is media and WHO is WHO.

It is true that the reason could be the race and that's why they didn't have told it earlier. We still got no updates.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on August 29, 2020, 06:45:09 AM

The last thing we need is a crappy untested vaccine against a minor virus that hasn't killed any healthy person so far. These crippling vaccines are far more of a threat than natural viruses that we can gain fairly fast immunity if we have a sensible health policy.

it has killed many thousands of people with no pre-existing conditions
you ignorant man

the risk factor for vaccines are like 1 in a million having a rash on their arm
the virus KILLS more than 1 in a million
atleast get your facts right

and last point the vaccines are being tested. thats why there was no general population vaccination option in april. because they have been testing it for the last 5 months

i can guarantee you this fact
there will not be officers with guns knocking on doors forcing people to get vaccinated
there will not be doctors knocking on doors forcing people to get vaccinated

try to live in the real world of reality and not the fake world of the stupid conspiracies you read

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The last thing we need is a crappy untested vaccine against a minor virus that hasn't killed any healthy person so far. These crippling vaccines are far more of a threat than natural viruses that we can gain fairly fast immunity if we have a sensible health policy.

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Quote from: akram143 on August 25, 2020, 09:25:28 AM

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AFAIK, they cleared Phase two but the thing is they didn't follow the normal protocols they just tried it with few members, report says the two phase test only included people less than 100 and no more phase 3 they registered it as successful vaccine.

From what I've watched based from a medical expert who was interviewed. They didn't reported it to WHO that they were developing a vaccine so everyone was shocked when the president has announced that they have developed a vaccine.

There is no need for Approval from WHO for any kind of vaccines to use them inside their country and this same applies to every country which I believe, WHO is not a regulatory organization they are just here for the guidance and nothing more.

It is not about the approval but it is about informing the WHO that they are joining the vaccine race.

A simple update wasn't made just to say that they are developing a vaccine. That's why other countries who have heard about the news were surprised that they've already made their vaccine because they only informed WHO when they have made it.

They only reported when they were already on their most recent phase.

Why they have to report it to the WHO? WHO is not going to create a vaccine they are just here for nothing and RUSSIA continuously reported everything through media but may not be much transparent in what they are said and this happens with every government as well because in this vaccine race every government wants to win.

in fact, the rules of the world may oblige every discovery that for the benefit of the world, there is a need for regulation to WHO so that what is claimed can be accounted for. But I really appreciate the Russians government dare to take policies because we are indeed being chased by time that cannot be too long with the rules made.
I hope it is true that what is found in Russia can be used immediately because many need immediately.

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Quote from: jossiel on August 23, 2020, 05:42:44 PM

Quote from: akram143 on August 23, 2020, 01:05:28 AM

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Quote from: akram143 on August 22, 2020, 03:31:39 PM

AFAIK, they cleared Phase two but the thing is they didn't follow the normal protocols they just tried it with few members, report says the two phase test only included people less than 100 and no more phase 3 they registered it as successful vaccine.

From what I've watched based from a medical expert who was interviewed. They didn't reported it to WHO that they were developing a vaccine so everyone was shocked when the president has announced that they have developed a vaccine.

There is no need for Approval from WHO for any kind of vaccines to use them inside their country and this same applies to every country which I believe, WHO is not a regulatory organization they are just here for the guidance and nothing more.

It is not about the approval but it is about informing the WHO that they are joining the vaccine race.

A simple update wasn't made just to say that they are developing a vaccine. That's why other countries who have heard about the news were surprised that they've already made their vaccine because they only informed WHO when they have made it.

They only reported when they were already on their most recent phase.

Why they have to report it to the WHO? WHO is not going to create a vaccine they are just here for nothing and RUSSIA continuously reported everything through media but may not be much transparent in what they are said and this happens with every government as well because in this vaccine race every government wants to win.

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Quote from: akram143 on August 23, 2020, 01:05:28 AM

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Quote from: akram143 on August 22, 2020, 03:31:39 PM

AFAIK, they cleared Phase two but the thing is they didn't follow the normal protocols they just tried it with few members, report says the two phase test only included people less than 100 and no more phase 3 they registered it as successful vaccine.

From what I've watched based from a medical expert who was interviewed. They didn't reported it to WHO that they were developing a vaccine so everyone was shocked when the president has announced that they have developed a vaccine.

There is no need for Approval from WHO for any kind of vaccines to use them inside their country and this same applies to every country which I believe, WHO is not a regulatory organization they are just here for the guidance and nothing more.

It is not about the approval but it is about informing the WHO that they are joining the vaccine race.

A simple update wasn't made just to say that they are developing a vaccine. That's why other countries who have heard about the news were surprised that they've already made their vaccine because they only informed WHO when they have made it.

They only reported when they were already on their most recent phase.

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Quote from: Chrystora123 on August 22, 2020, 02:06:59 PM

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The Gamaleya Research Institute, part of Russia’s Ministry of Health, launched a Phase 1 trial in June of a vaccine they called Gam-Covid-Vac Lyo. It is a combination of two adenoviruses, Ad5 and Ad26, both engineered with a coronavirus gene. In July, the chair of the upper house of Russia’s Parliament announced the country might start vaccine production by the end of the year. On Aug. 11, President Vladimir V. Putin announced that a Russian health care regulator had approved the vaccine, renamed Sputnik V, before Phase 3 trials had even begun. Vaccine experts decried the move as risky. Nevertheless, Tass reported, Vietnam soon agreed to purchase 50 to 150 million doses.

based on what I read, this vaccine has only gone through phase 1 and has not yet reached phase 3 (final level testing with certainty that it is safe for use in humans), this is purely a one-sided admission and is very dangerous..

There are many forces in the world who do not want Russia vaccine to be introduced in the world and there are some powerful groups which do not want any vaccine to be developed for covid19 as they have their own agenda. The matter of vaccine is not as simple as it seems.

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Quote from: cabron on August 23, 2020, 01:53:55 AM

Quote from: akram143 on August 23, 2020, 01:05:28 AM

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Quote from: akram143 on August 22, 2020, 03:31:39 PM

AFAIK, they cleared Phase two but the thing is they didn't follow the normal protocols they just tried it with few members, report says the two phase test only included people less than 100 and no more phase 3 they registered it as successful vaccine.

From what I've watched based from a medical expert who was interviewed. They didn't reported it to WHO that they were developing a vaccine so everyone was shocked when the president has announced that they have developed a vaccine.

There is no need for Approval from WHO for any kind of vaccines to use them inside their country and this same applies to every country which I believe, WHO is not a regulatory organization they are just here for the guidance and nothing more.

They can inject it to their own people which is its own risk. There is no report yet of side effects though so if ever the vaccine help them solve the corona virus crisis then they'd be the next to China. I wouldn't mind taking the risk if I see no deaths from the people vaccinated.

WHO will take this process very long but the people needs the urgent solution because we want to go back to the streets and help the economy to stand up again.

But the government needs to approve a vaccine if they are going to import vaccine from other countries and it varies from countries to countries.In India they will conduct the trials on our own people even if it is successful in other countries to know the side effects of Indian region people.

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Quote from: akram143 on August 23, 2020, 01:05:28 AM

Quote from: jossiel on August 22, 2020, 04:51:46 PM

Quote from: akram143 on August 22, 2020, 03:31:39 PM

AFAIK, they cleared Phase two but the thing is they didn't follow the normal protocols they just tried it with few members, report says the two phase test only included people less than 100 and no more phase 3 they registered it as successful vaccine.

From what I've watched based from a medical expert who was interviewed. They didn't reported it to WHO that they were developing a vaccine so everyone was shocked when the president has announced that they have developed a vaccine.

There is no need for Approval from WHO for any kind of vaccines to use them inside their country and this same applies to every country which I believe, WHO is not a regulatory organization they are just here for the guidance and nothing more.

They can inject it to their own people which is its own risk. There is no report yet of side effects though so if ever the vaccine help them solve the corona virus crisis then they'd be the next to China. I wouldn't mind taking the risk if I see no deaths from the people vaccinated.

WHO will take this process very long but the people needs the urgent solution because we want to go back to the streets and help the economy to stand up again.

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on August 11, 2020, 07:53:56 AM

When I was reading the news, these were the key points:

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said a locally developed vaccine for Covid-19 has been given regulatory approval after less than two months of testing on humans.

Amid fears that safety could have been compromised, the World Health Organization (WHO) urged Russia last week to follow international guidelines for producing a vaccine against Covid-19.

Currently, the Russian vaccine is not among the WHO's list of six vaccines that have reached phase three clinical trials, which involve more widespread testing in humans.

Russian scientists said early-stage trials of the vaccine had been completed and the results were a success.

The Russian vaccine uses adapted strains of the adenovirus, a virus that usually causes the common cold, to trigger an immune response.

But the vaccine's approval by Russian regulators comes before the completion of a larger study involving thousands of people, known as a phase-three trial.

You can read the full news from the link below
BBC News - Coronavirus: Putin says vaccine has been approved for use
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53735718

I think the Russian rush it, very similar words Russians and Rush it, if they think they are effective and they have done the right process in their own way, then they can try it first on their own, there are negative feedbacks on their claims because clinical trial needs a lot of time and process, I prefer doing everything I can do avoid getting infected than get a vaccine create hurriedly by the Russian.

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Quote from: jossiel on August 22, 2020, 04:51:46 PM

Quote from: akram143 on August 22, 2020, 03:31:39 PM

AFAIK, they cleared Phase two but the thing is they didn't follow the normal protocols they just tried it with few members, report says the two phase test only included people less than 100 and no more phase 3 they registered it as successful vaccine.

From what I've watched based from a medical expert who was interviewed. They didn't reported it to WHO that they were developing a vaccine so everyone was shocked when the president has announced that they have developed a vaccine.

There is no need for Approval from WHO for any kind of vaccines to use them inside their country and this same applies to every country which I believe, WHO is not a regulatory organization they are just here for the guidance and nothing more.

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Quote from: Mauser on August 22, 2020, 11:36:09 AM

Apparently now Russia even wants to supply Pakistan with 1 million vaccines. So far I didn't read anything about the success rate of the vaccine and if you really become immune afterwards. This might just be a big media campaign.

apparently AGES AGO US/UK started mass producing hundreds of millions of supplies even before they actually passed phase 2(uk/us skipped steps)

but its ok because what you need to learn is EVERY country is going to mass produce large amounts before phase 3 so that if it passes phase 3 all they have to do is deliver it
(save a few months)

russia might have trade deals with the philippines and pakistan but that does not mean they are going to start vaccinating general public until phase 3 completes
because russia hasnt even made millions of doses yet

do expect vaccine manufacturers to prepare millions of doses ready
do expect vaccine manufacturers to trash those supplies if it doesnt pass phase 3
dont expect results from phase 3 this year
dont expect delivery of doses until phase 3 passes

by having phase 3 results in maybe january, they can see that alongside questioning and surveying the phase 2 people which would have had 6-9 months, along with the phase 3 three months. to then get a better idea of any notable reactions.

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