Topic: Russia has developed covid-19 vaccine. - page 4. (Read 619 times)

Note that there are differences in vaccines produced by different countries. If his daughters got the dead virus in a saline solution, they might be totally safe. It's when you add all kinds of garbage like dead-baby cells, and mercury, and aluminum, and formaldehyde, and monkey parts, and who knows what else - like they do in America - that things become dangerous.

he seem to be guaranteeing its effectiveness that he said his daughters had been vaccinated.

why risk his daughters if its not tested. i think this will really be a good development for all. whether UK or Russia will be the first to provide, either of them will do as long as it could help all of us to continue living the normal life. this lockdown seem stopping the kids to learn in school.

In addition, the only way anybody, Russia included, can do safety studies, is to do them over time. Generally speaking, 4 or 5 years are needed for safety studies. If Russia has done those, they already had their vaccine 4 or 5 years ago or more. This might be possible for Coronavirus, or for SARS, but not for Covid-19, except that Covid has been around for all that time, and the whole pandemic thing was planned long ago.

You are right. And we should hope for best outcome of the phase 3.

my point is
while russia done its phase 2 and is doing a phase 3 with doctos and teachers in october. where russia is not promoting it has millions of doses prepped for mass population

bbc is saying how the UK is still at the phase 2 also done phase 3 simultaneously(wheres UK's wait and see)
and also produced 100m doses ready and is yet  phase 2 isnt finished and yet to finish phase 3

heck even america will make millions of doses before actually getting to phase 3

kinda funny at the hypocrisy
(by the way im british yet i can see the irony/hypocrisy in my own countries media announcements)

remember
BBC Says UK is mid way thought 2&3, already marketed/produced 100m doses. yet to get final rests of 2or3
BBC says russia passed phase 2 and yet to market/produce mass amounts. and will start phase 3 in october
while also prepping millions of doses
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reality.
both UK and russia are going to do phase 3 .. WHILST manufacturing(but not releasing hundreds of millions of doses)
russia's plan is the same as the UK plan.. just worded biasedly to make russia look bad and uk look better. yet its the same thing if you untwist the wording

This is not fun at all, you have actually pointed out the truth. I have gone through the link you provided and from it I saw another link:

Oxford vaccine triggers immune response
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-53469839

Because of the short period of time, they have not run for long enough to understand how long the antibodies (against the virus) produced by the body will last, the study in the Lancet showed. But, as time goes on, this will be known. Over 90% UK patient that were given one dose of the vaccine showed positive result while the remianing 10% people showed positive result after given 2 doeses of the vaccine. You are right. And this is just still second phase of testing.

I would trust a word coming from Putin's mouth. Trusting Russians is just plain stupid.  These people say one thing, think another and do yet another, all while being half drunk.  Most are moral and ethical degenerates.

They can have it.

russia 'mass vaccination campaign' is not a full population campaign
its a phase 3 study of a few thousand people.. mainly doctors and teachers(people in professions that usually know how to report things and not be stupid about reporting things) thus the results from this 'mass' would actually be more accurate than other studies

america for instance will accept anyone from any background. meaning they might get more flawed results with people stupidly saying their 23yo son who didnt get the vaccine suddenly is diagnosed with autism 'because' the mother volunteered for the vaccine (usual vaccine autism nonsense random idiots say)

some will say the vaccine failed due to the cellphone usage.(usual 5g nonsense) even though they ddnt get sick. they just read somewhere that cellphones destroy stuff so assume it failed based on the stupid article they read

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i find it really funny how some idiots take the word 'mass' from the reality of more then a dozen(meaning a few thousand) but then pretend it means full population..
i think the joke is on the idiots that dont check the facts beyond the first google search link they find

,, heres some good reading about the only doctors and teachers bits the OP didnt actually read
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53621708
yea its filled with snip bits of 'russian hackers' and stuff.. to spoil the relevant parts..

but for added fun
the BBC reports how the UK's phase 2 has already got a deal that has already made 100million doses of its version for british use..
the funny parts are UK is only phase 2 stage also. but already preping for mass population usage
and also 100m doses just for the UK...... theres only 65mill people and not everyone will needs/want it..

@Charles-Tim yea I saw this news too and I’m skeptical about Russia’s claim, and furthermore I don’t expect anyone to try it unless WHO and other medical bodies can certify that this vaccine is safe. Also I hope that Russia’s citizens will give it a miss, otherwise they’ll be risking their life’s on an untried vaccine who’s side effects are yet not known to us.

It's a welcoming and significant development for sure.

But on the other hand, most counties have seen the struggle for covid-19 vaccine as being a struggle for supremacy among other nations and not necessarily a struggle to save the world. The aggressive and speedy progress from some countries who are eager to be declared premier on possible victory on one of the worst outbreaks in the world be (Covid-19) is something to worry about as well because this assumable competition would possibly led to an unreliable cure which could turn to be harmful or give people a false sense of security about their immunity. Global health experts had warned that most countries are skipping some of the critical and large-scale testing that is essential to determine if a possible covid-19 protection is safe and effective.

Disclaimer: I don't mean 'Sputnik V' is one of those.

When I was reading the news, these were the key points:

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said a locally developed vaccine for Covid-19 has been given regulatory approval after less than two months of testing on humans.

Amid fears that safety could have been compromised, the World Health Organization (WHO) urged Russia last week to follow international guidelines for producing a vaccine against Covid-19.

Currently, the Russian vaccine is not among the WHO's list of six vaccines that have reached phase three clinical trials, which involve more widespread testing in humans.

Russian scientists said early-stage trials of the vaccine had been completed and the results were a success.

The Russian vaccine uses adapted strains of the adenovirus, a virus that usually causes the common cold, to trigger an immune response.

But the vaccine's approval by Russian regulators comes before the completion of a larger study involving thousands of people, known as a phase-three trial.

You can read the full news from the link below
BBC News - Coronavirus: Putin says vaccine has been approved for use
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53735718