Topic: Russia has developed covid-19 vaccine. - page 2. (Read 619 times)

From what I've watched based from a medical expert who was interviewed. They didn't reported it to WHO that they were developing a vaccine so everyone was shocked when the president has announced that they have developed a vaccine.

AFAIK, not yet.

They'll go through the process and will still go through phase 3.

AFAIK, they cleared Phase two but the thing is they didn't follow the normal protocols they just tried it with few members, report says the two phase test only included people less than 100 and no more phase 3 they registered it as successful vaccine.

Is there any new update about the vaccine? Mass productions has started already?

based on what I read, this vaccine has only gone through phase 1 and has not yet reached phase 3 (final level testing with certainty that it is safe for use in humans), this is purely a one-sided admission and is very dangerous..

Apparently now Russia even wants to supply Pakistan with 1 million vaccines. So far I didn't read anything about the success rate of the vaccine and if you really become immune afterwards. This might just be a big media campaign.

https://www.indiatoday.in/fact-check/story/fact-check-has-russia-gifted-1-million-doses-of-covid-vaccine-to-pakistan-1712655-2020-08-18

I sipmly don't believe it. Putin is putting out loads of BS and we just eat it up

This is thinking that is a bit ignorant. Why? Because there are clinical trials and real-world usage that shows that hydroxychloroquine is saving lives around the world in 3rd world countries. Why there? Because it works. Why not in the USA and Europe? Because Big Pharma wants to make money off vaccines. So, they don't promote what works.

You never heard of alchemy? What do you think the early stages of Big Pharma were? Before something gets big, it is small. Mesmerism and hypnotism have been around forever. The alchemists simply made it stick this time, through good timing, shrewd alchemy, and playing on the simple-mindedness of the people.

the thing that cannot be avoided is that time is pursued when the need for vaccines is very much needed, even though there may not be clinical trials yet, but we also cannot blame because we need a vaccine to accelerate. but indeed the testing protocol must be put forward because it will be a big risk.

Several countries have claimed to have found a vaccine but they have not dared to publish it like Russia did, we don't know why there is a very significant difference, whether because there are other things that we also don't know.

Our hope is that there will be drugs and vaccines soon, because they are needed.

I agree that it is mainly about money, but it is also about population control.

The Pharma companies are supra national, and this means they are above the US. In fact their finances are closer to the City of London, than the US. Much of the Corona virus research was done in the Wuhan labs, and funded by Fauci. They probably control the Russian virus development as well. It is difficult to understand their motives in allowing this vaccine to be released so early. Maybe they want it to fail, and persuade people that they need to use a "safer" one of their choosing. However, with any luck the failure of the Russian vaccine will turn people away from artificial control of their immune system, and lead to a revival in natural immunity.

The US is not going to accept that Russia has the vaccine.
You know, it is all about money. There are a lot of pharmaceutical companies that are US-based that have invested a lot of money in the vaccine production and they expect to get those money back. The US will get this money for them and they will not give them to Russia.

This and HCG for TB are the only two technologies I agree with after the years of research that I've done.  Part of the equation is that smallpox and tuberculosis are actually serious diseases that a person really does not want to get.  Unlike Chickenpox, mumps, measeles, etc which I would rather have gotten in an age appropriate way and thus achieve life-long immunity than not.

I put some effort into getting my daughter the old-school smallpox but decided that it was impossible.  I had it as a kid, and I probably got some more doeses in the military (along with bubonic plague.)  The reason I wanted to get some protection for my daughter is because smallpox could be what Bill and Melinda have planned for 'the next one.'

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3AEuRV2Ytc

There has been a fair bit of predictive programming about smallpox over the years, but it seems like it's withered on the vine a bit lately.  The U.S. maintains vast stockpiles of smallpox vaccine.  But since we've rolled around to the U.S. being probably up next on the chopping block, that argues against use of smallpox for phase-II.  'They' have hundreds of other equally good options though I'm sure.

Like you say, he is no fool. But the lunatic part is only what he sounds like sometimes.

If they really developed a vaccine, who cares? Vitamin-C + zinc sulfate + vitamin D3 cures/controls Covid - or hydroxychloroquine + zinc sulfate. Putin's talk is simply trying to get us to realize that vaccines are a stupid idea that won't work, and that we have the cure already.

At this point Putin can just put out whatever BS he wants using the image we all in some way endowed him with and this BS will be seriously discussed. This guy is by no means a fooll but definitely slowly gets into lunatic zone

Except, of course, if it was only timing, and the vaccinations had nothing to do with it, and smallpox was in its final stages anyway, and Big Pharma only took advantage of what they knew was coming... smallpox going away naturally.

The problem is  not to develop vaccine but to develop such one that would  not harm the body.  It  took almost 5 years to develop vaccine against Ebola. I don't think  Russia has manage to develop the good  stuff against COVID on such a reduced timeline.


but who knows what is normal? Thanks to children immunized against smallpox the humankind  has a long and successful health record relevant to that illness in the past and current centuries. Are you sure you would exist without that?

seems tvbcof is stuck in the 1940s

soviet russia(communist) ended decades ago.. russia is now capitalist

china in the 1920's was the Qing dynasty which wasnt communist. but became somewhat communist there after.. although in the 40's+ some area's retained the autonomy

but in the last decade although still 'branded' communist they are actually more capitalist
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the issue is that although chinese people can buy property for renting/sub-leasing/changing of use.. outsiders cannot. so the outsiders then demonise them as communist by not letting outsiders buy land for profit

funny part is. this sole feature is something the western capitalists want for their own country to stop foreigners from buying their land.
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but getting back to the topic
this outdated mindset that russia is still 'soviet' and 'communist' makes western media portray their phase 3 trial of a few thousands doctors and teachers. as being a 'mass inoculation campaign' where they try to make 'mass' then falsely sound like 'millions'

russia completed phase 2 (UK/US hasnt)
russia hasnt even got millions of doses(UK has/US is getting there)

so in actual reality it is UK/US that is skipping more steps

(it needs repeating as some idiots above seem ignorant of facts and more interested in outdated propaganda)

The Globalists decided to shift over to parasitizing China after 'the great reset' and have spent the last half century wringing all of the wealth out of the West and transferring their operations to China.  These transfers are the ONLY reason China is where it is today in my analysis, and being an ant in that particular ant-farm sucks donkey balls with all the servailance and social engineering.  When the time is right they globalists will 'pull it' and the West will crumble into it's own footprint.  'Covid-19' is the analog of the conventional thermite charge sawing through some of the core columns.

'Communism' is only possible when debt-based-money 'Capitalists' (from Engles on down) decide it is right for a particular country,  It is just a tool that they use.  Private property and resources are taken 'for the collective' instead of purchased which saves money.  After 'collectivism' takes economy and society into the abyss, they can flip the page into 'reset' where, wearing their 'Oligarch' hats, they re-claim the property and resources for themselves.  That was they lifecycle of the Soviet Union.  China too really.  The difference was that the Globalists realized that China would be a good surfboard to replace the United States when the time came.

If, as I believe, the quality of life improvements that the average Chinese has realized come as a gift from Globalists and their 'technology transfers' and what-not, this is obviously not sustainable.  The inflection point will be sharp when the Western 'wealth pool' has been sucked dry and imploded.  Then they are just extraordinarily well monitored serfs under complete control of the Globalists technocracy.  Even more so than today.

whatever they are doing there seem to be working good. anyone should be able to see that since they have rise from the ashes. whether its a draconian system or not, its just that they can achieve things. developed vaccine as quick as possible.

Putin may not be trusted in the media but Russians I believe liked him otherwise they would have revolt and ousted him already. its the media outside Russia that just misrepresented him.

would you trust Trump more than Putin? with all those misleading information about Corvid. We might be skeptical with diverse standard with respect to health but Russia is as well detail like USA. Sadly if the vaccine fails in Russia we may not know and if it succeeds some developed countries might find it like failing the competition. I felt we need a quicker measure to restore the economy and the proposed 2021 USA vaccines looks far for the pending crisis.

I worked in Beijing for a while trying to train people to do my job so I could move on.  Tokyo and Bangalore likewise although in both of those cases it was more of a short visit than was my experience in China.