Topic: Russian act of war (Read 1006 times)
There will be no war. Ukraine has nothing to oppose Russia. And before calling Russia an aggressor, take a look at the United States first. How many so-called “operations” did they have in the countries of the third and third world? And we must always remember that the people themselves never want war, the war is created by the authorities who allegedly pursue the interests of their country.
Hackers leaked a lot of "The Integrity Initiative" documents.
https://ru.scribd.com/document/394374538/Interim-Report
It's a British infowarfare special service, pretending to be a non-profit NGO.
Their two fronts are currently Spain and Greece, judging from the docs.
https://ru.scribd.com/document/394374538/Interim-Report
It's a British infowarfare special service, pretending to be a non-profit NGO.
Their two fronts are currently Spain and Greece, judging from the docs.
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/president-of-ukraine-claims-large-scale-russian-invasion-of-country-being-planned/
Holy shit. WW3 coming soon.
The Ukraine isn’t part of NATO and as such, western countries are unlikely to go to war over this in practice. Holy shit. WW3 coming soon.
Ah, but other obligations exists outside NATO:
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The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland,
Welcoming the accession of Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons as non-nuclear-weapon State,
Taking into account the commitment of Ukraine to eliminate all nuclear weapons from its territory within a specified period of time,
Noting the changes in the world-wide security situation, including the end of the Cold War, which have brought about conditions for deep reductions in nuclear forces.
Confirm the following:
1. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine.
2. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.
3. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind.
4. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine, as a non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used.
5. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm, in the case of Ukraine, their commitment not to use nuclear weapons against any non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, except in the case of an attack on themselves, their territories or dependent territories, their armed forces, or their allies, by such a State in association or alliance with a nuclear-weapon State.
6. Ukraine, the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America will consult in the event a situation arises that raises a question concerning these commitments.
— Memorandum on Security Assurances in Connection with Ukraine’s Accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons
Welcoming the accession of Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons as non-nuclear-weapon State,
Taking into account the commitment of Ukraine to eliminate all nuclear weapons from its territory within a specified period of time,
Noting the changes in the world-wide security situation, including the end of the Cold War, which have brought about conditions for deep reductions in nuclear forces.
Confirm the following:
1. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine.
2. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.
3. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind.
4. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine, as a non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used.
5. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm, in the case of Ukraine, their commitment not to use nuclear weapons against any non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, except in the case of an attack on themselves, their territories or dependent territories, their armed forces, or their allies, by such a State in association or alliance with a nuclear-weapon State.
6. Ukraine, the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America will consult in the event a situation arises that raises a question concerning these commitments.
— Memorandum on Security Assurances in Connection with Ukraine’s Accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons
We might see more economic sanctions as a result of this, but probably not military conflict. I would be surprised to ever see two countries with Nuclear weapons engage in a military conflict, but we will probably see war break out in efforts to stop countries from obtaining Nuclear weapons (Iran).
With oil prices where they are, the Russian economy cannot withstand more sanctions, and Russia may be forced to retreat because of the sanctions.
Check out this new incident it's really interesting... 17 Russian jets vs 1 Royal Navy Destroyer
Link: https://www.businessinsider.com/17-russian-jets-buzzed-a-british-destroyer-in-the-black-sea-2018-11
Link: https://www.businessinsider.com/17-russian-jets-buzzed-a-british-destroyer-in-the-black-sea-2018-11
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The incident took place in May, but tensions in the Black Sea have been simmering for some time.
May? Why wasn't it in the news cycle then? Jesus christ.
Check out this new incident it's really interesting... 17 Russian jets vs 1 Royal Navy Destroyer
Link: https://www.businessinsider.com/17-russian-jets-buzzed-a-british-destroyer-in-the-black-sea-2018-11
Link: https://www.businessinsider.com/17-russian-jets-buzzed-a-british-destroyer-in-the-black-sea-2018-11
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/president-of-ukraine-claims-large-scale-russian-invasion-of-country-being-planned/
Holy shit. WW3 coming soon.
The Ukraine isn’t part of NATO and as such, western countries are unlikely to go to war over this in practice. Holy shit. WW3 coming soon.
Ah, but other obligations exists outside NATO:
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The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland,
Welcoming the accession of Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons as non-nuclear-weapon State,
Taking into account the commitment of Ukraine to eliminate all nuclear weapons from its territory within a specified period of time,
Noting the changes in the world-wide security situation, including the end of the Cold War, which have brought about conditions for deep reductions in nuclear forces.
Confirm the following:
1. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine.
2. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.
3. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind.
4. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine, as a non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used.
5. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm, in the case of Ukraine, their commitment not to use nuclear weapons against any non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, except in the case of an attack on themselves, their territories or dependent territories, their armed forces, or their allies, by such a State in association or alliance with a nuclear-weapon State.
6. Ukraine, the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America will consult in the event a situation arises that raises a question concerning these commitments.
— Memorandum on Security Assurances in Connection with Ukraine’s Accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons
Welcoming the accession of Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons as non-nuclear-weapon State,
Taking into account the commitment of Ukraine to eliminate all nuclear weapons from its territory within a specified period of time,
Noting the changes in the world-wide security situation, including the end of the Cold War, which have brought about conditions for deep reductions in nuclear forces.
Confirm the following:
1. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine.
2. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.
3. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind.
4. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine, as a non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used.
5. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm, in the case of Ukraine, their commitment not to use nuclear weapons against any non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, except in the case of an attack on themselves, their territories or dependent territories, their armed forces, or their allies, by such a State in association or alliance with a nuclear-weapon State.
6. Ukraine, the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America will consult in the event a situation arises that raises a question concerning these commitments.
— Memorandum on Security Assurances in Connection with Ukraine’s Accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/president-of-ukraine-claims-large-scale-russian-invasion-of-country-being-planned/
Holy shit. WW3 coming soon.
The Ukraine isn’t part of NATO and as such, western countries are unlikely to go to war over this in practice. Holy shit. WW3 coming soon.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/us-conducts-rare-overflight-near-ukraine-in-pointed-message-to-moscow
Holy shit; US is showing force by flying over Ukraine.
Holy shit; US is showing force by flying over Ukraine.
I suggest that you get updated that treaty is no longer valid. That treaty was valid when Russia and Ukraine were allies until 2013 but not anymore thanks to our CIA and MI6 friends.
Source? As far as I can tell, the treaty is still in effect.
Can you give us a link to that document or "treaty"... For me is like Mexicans trying to claim that the Gulf of Mexico and other territories lost to the U.S.A are theirs. There is nothing we can do about it.. peace out
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The Russian Federation and Ukraine, hereinafter referred to as the Parties,
guided by the relations of friendship and cooperation between the peoples of Russia and Ukraine, historically fraternal bonds between them;
Guided by the provisions of the Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Partnership between the Russian Federation and Ukraine of May 31, 1997, as well as the Treaty between the Russian Federation and Ukraine on the Russian-Ukrainian state border of January 28, 2003;
Noting the importance of the Sea of Azov and the Kerch Strait for the economic development of Russia and Ukraine;
Convinced that all issues relating to the Sea of Azov and the Kerch Strait should be resolved only by peaceful means jointly or with the consent of Russia and Ukraine;
based on the need to preserve the Azov-Kerch water area as an integral economic and natural complex used in the interests of Russia and Ukraine:
Agree on the following:
Article 1
The Sea of Azov and the Kerch Strait are historically the inland waters of the Russian Federation and Ukraine.
The Sea of Azov is delimited by the state border line in accordance with the agreement between the Parties.
Settlement of issues relating to the water area of the Kerch Strait, is carried out by agreement between the Parties.
Article 2
1. Merchant ships and warships, as well as other state ships under the flag of the Russian Federation or Ukraine, operated for non-commercial purposes, enjoy freedom of navigation in the Sea of Azov and the Kerch Strait.
2. Trade ships under the flags of third countries may enter the Sea of Azov and pass through the Kerch Strait if they are sent to or returned from the Russian or Ukrainian port.
3. Warships and other state vessels of third states, operated for non-commercial purposes, may enter the Sea of Azov and pass through the Kerch Strait if they are sent on a visit or business call to the port by one of the Parties at its invitation or permission agreed with the other Party .
Article 3
Russian-Ukrainian cooperation, including joint activities in the field of shipping, including its regulation and navigation and hydrographic support, fisheries, protection of the marine environment, environmental safety, as well as search and rescue in the Sea of Azov and the Kerch Strait, and concluding, as appropriate, new arrangements.
Article 4
Disputes between the Parties related to the interpretation and application of this Agreement shall be resolved through consultation and negotiation, as well as other peaceful means chosen by the Parties.
Article 5
This Treaty is subject to ratification and shall enter into force on the date of the exchange of the instruments of ratification of the Parties.
Changes and additions to this Agreement are drawn up in separate protocols, which enter into force in accordance with the procedure described in paragraph 1 of this Article.
Done in the city of Kerch
"December 24, 2003,
in duplicate, each in the Russian and Ukrainian languages, both texts being equally authentic.
guided by the relations of friendship and cooperation between the peoples of Russia and Ukraine, historically fraternal bonds between them;
Guided by the provisions of the Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Partnership between the Russian Federation and Ukraine of May 31, 1997, as well as the Treaty between the Russian Federation and Ukraine on the Russian-Ukrainian state border of January 28, 2003;
Noting the importance of the Sea of Azov and the Kerch Strait for the economic development of Russia and Ukraine;
Convinced that all issues relating to the Sea of Azov and the Kerch Strait should be resolved only by peaceful means jointly or with the consent of Russia and Ukraine;
based on the need to preserve the Azov-Kerch water area as an integral economic and natural complex used in the interests of Russia and Ukraine:
Agree on the following:
Article 1
The Sea of Azov and the Kerch Strait are historically the inland waters of the Russian Federation and Ukraine.
The Sea of Azov is delimited by the state border line in accordance with the agreement between the Parties.
Settlement of issues relating to the water area of the Kerch Strait, is carried out by agreement between the Parties.
Article 2
1. Merchant ships and warships, as well as other state ships under the flag of the Russian Federation or Ukraine, operated for non-commercial purposes, enjoy freedom of navigation in the Sea of Azov and the Kerch Strait.
2. Trade ships under the flags of third countries may enter the Sea of Azov and pass through the Kerch Strait if they are sent to or returned from the Russian or Ukrainian port.
3. Warships and other state vessels of third states, operated for non-commercial purposes, may enter the Sea of Azov and pass through the Kerch Strait if they are sent on a visit or business call to the port by one of the Parties at its invitation or permission agreed with the other Party .
Article 3
Russian-Ukrainian cooperation, including joint activities in the field of shipping, including its regulation and navigation and hydrographic support, fisheries, protection of the marine environment, environmental safety, as well as search and rescue in the Sea of Azov and the Kerch Strait, and concluding, as appropriate, new arrangements.
Article 4
Disputes between the Parties related to the interpretation and application of this Agreement shall be resolved through consultation and negotiation, as well as other peaceful means chosen by the Parties.
Article 5
This Treaty is subject to ratification and shall enter into force on the date of the exchange of the instruments of ratification of the Parties.
Changes and additions to this Agreement are drawn up in separate protocols, which enter into force in accordance with the procedure described in paragraph 1 of this Article.
Done in the city of Kerch
"December 24, 2003,
in duplicate, each in the Russian and Ukrainian languages, both texts being equally authentic.
https://www.ecolex.org/details/treaty/agreement-between-the-russian-federation-and-the-ukraine-on-cooperation-in-the-use-of-the-sea-of-azov-and-the-strait-of-kerch-tre-149547/
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The Parties, proceeding from the necessity of conservation of the Azov-Kerch defined area of water as integral economic and natural complex, to be used in the interests of the Russian Federation and the Ukraine, have agreed as follows: 1) The sea of Azov and the strait of Kerch are historically internal waters of the Russian Federation and the Ukraine. 2) The sea of Azov must be delimited by the state border in accordance with the Agreement signed by the Parties. 3) Dispute settlement regarding the issues pertaining to the defined area of water of Kerch must be regulated by agreement between the Parties. 4) Mercantile vessels and other state non-commercial vessels flying the flags of the Russian Federation and the Ukraine have free navigation in the sea of Azov and the strait of Kerch. 5) Russian-Ukrainian cooperation in the spheres of navigation, fisheries, protection of marine environment, ecological safety and life-saving in the sea of Azov and the strait of Kerch must be implemented on the basis of existing international agreements and by conclusion, in respective cases, of the new ones.
I suggest that you get updated that treaty is no longer valid. That treaty was valid when Russia and Ukraine were allies until 2013 but not anymore thanks to our CIA and MI6 friends.
Can you give us a link to that document or "treaty"... For me is like Mexicans trying to claim that the Gulf of Mexico and other territories lost to the U.S.A are theirs. There is nothing we can do about it.. peace out
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The Russian Federation and Ukraine, hereinafter referred to as the Parties,
guided by the relations of friendship and cooperation between the peoples of Russia and Ukraine, historically fraternal bonds between them;
Guided by the provisions of the Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Partnership between the Russian Federation and Ukraine of May 31, 1997, as well as the Treaty between the Russian Federation and Ukraine on the Russian-Ukrainian state border of January 28, 2003;
Noting the importance of the Sea of Azov and the Kerch Strait for the economic development of Russia and Ukraine;
Convinced that all issues relating to the Sea of Azov and the Kerch Strait should be resolved only by peaceful means jointly or with the consent of Russia and Ukraine;
based on the need to preserve the Azov-Kerch water area as an integral economic and natural complex used in the interests of Russia and Ukraine:
Agree on the following:
Article 1
The Sea of Azov and the Kerch Strait are historically the inland waters of the Russian Federation and Ukraine.
The Sea of Azov is delimited by the state border line in accordance with the agreement between the Parties.
Settlement of issues relating to the water area of the Kerch Strait, is carried out by agreement between the Parties.
Article 2
1. Merchant ships and warships, as well as other state ships under the flag of the Russian Federation or Ukraine, operated for non-commercial purposes, enjoy freedom of navigation in the Sea of Azov and the Kerch Strait.
2. Trade ships under the flags of third countries may enter the Sea of Azov and pass through the Kerch Strait if they are sent to or returned from the Russian or Ukrainian port.
3. Warships and other state vessels of third states, operated for non-commercial purposes, may enter the Sea of Azov and pass through the Kerch Strait if they are sent on a visit or business call to the port by one of the Parties at its invitation or permission agreed with the other Party .
Article 3
Russian-Ukrainian cooperation, including joint activities in the field of shipping, including its regulation and navigation and hydrographic support, fisheries, protection of the marine environment, environmental safety, as well as search and rescue in the Sea of Azov and the Kerch Strait, and concluding, as appropriate, new arrangements.
Article 4
Disputes between the Parties related to the interpretation and application of this Agreement shall be resolved through consultation and negotiation, as well as other peaceful means chosen by the Parties.
Article 5
This Treaty is subject to ratification and shall enter into force on the date of the exchange of the instruments of ratification of the Parties.
Changes and additions to this Agreement are drawn up in separate protocols, which enter into force in accordance with the procedure described in paragraph 1 of this Article.
Done in the city of Kerch
"December 24, 2003,
in duplicate, each in the Russian and Ukrainian languages, both texts being equally authentic.
guided by the relations of friendship and cooperation between the peoples of Russia and Ukraine, historically fraternal bonds between them;
Guided by the provisions of the Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Partnership between the Russian Federation and Ukraine of May 31, 1997, as well as the Treaty between the Russian Federation and Ukraine on the Russian-Ukrainian state border of January 28, 2003;
Noting the importance of the Sea of Azov and the Kerch Strait for the economic development of Russia and Ukraine;
Convinced that all issues relating to the Sea of Azov and the Kerch Strait should be resolved only by peaceful means jointly or with the consent of Russia and Ukraine;
based on the need to preserve the Azov-Kerch water area as an integral economic and natural complex used in the interests of Russia and Ukraine:
Agree on the following:
Article 1
The Sea of Azov and the Kerch Strait are historically the inland waters of the Russian Federation and Ukraine.
The Sea of Azov is delimited by the state border line in accordance with the agreement between the Parties.
Settlement of issues relating to the water area of the Kerch Strait, is carried out by agreement between the Parties.
Article 2
1. Merchant ships and warships, as well as other state ships under the flag of the Russian Federation or Ukraine, operated for non-commercial purposes, enjoy freedom of navigation in the Sea of Azov and the Kerch Strait.
2. Trade ships under the flags of third countries may enter the Sea of Azov and pass through the Kerch Strait if they are sent to or returned from the Russian or Ukrainian port.
3. Warships and other state vessels of third states, operated for non-commercial purposes, may enter the Sea of Azov and pass through the Kerch Strait if they are sent on a visit or business call to the port by one of the Parties at its invitation or permission agreed with the other Party .
Article 3
Russian-Ukrainian cooperation, including joint activities in the field of shipping, including its regulation and navigation and hydrographic support, fisheries, protection of the marine environment, environmental safety, as well as search and rescue in the Sea of Azov and the Kerch Strait, and concluding, as appropriate, new arrangements.
Article 4
Disputes between the Parties related to the interpretation and application of this Agreement shall be resolved through consultation and negotiation, as well as other peaceful means chosen by the Parties.
Article 5
This Treaty is subject to ratification and shall enter into force on the date of the exchange of the instruments of ratification of the Parties.
Changes and additions to this Agreement are drawn up in separate protocols, which enter into force in accordance with the procedure described in paragraph 1 of this Article.
Done in the city of Kerch
"December 24, 2003,
in duplicate, each in the Russian and Ukrainian languages, both texts being equally authentic.
https://www.ecolex.org/details/treaty/agreement-between-the-russian-federation-and-the-ukraine-on-cooperation-in-the-use-of-the-sea-of-azov-and-the-strait-of-kerch-tre-149547/
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The Parties, proceeding from the necessity of conservation of the Azov-Kerch defined area of water as integral economic and natural complex, to be used in the interests of the Russian Federation and the Ukraine, have agreed as follows: 1) The sea of Azov and the strait of Kerch are historically internal waters of the Russian Federation and the Ukraine. 2) The sea of Azov must be delimited by the state border in accordance with the Agreement signed by the Parties. 3) Dispute settlement regarding the issues pertaining to the defined area of water of Kerch must be regulated by agreement between the Parties. 4) Mercantile vessels and other state non-commercial vessels flying the flags of the Russian Federation and the Ukraine have free navigation in the sea of Azov and the strait of Kerch. 5) Russian-Ukrainian cooperation in the spheres of navigation, fisheries, protection of marine environment, ecological safety and life-saving in the sea of Azov and the strait of Kerch must be implemented on the basis of existing international agreements and by conclusion, in respective cases, of the new ones.
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Uhhhh; Ukraine and Russia had a joint treaty over that water way. A country just can't lay claims to something covered by a treaty arbitrarily. The fact that Russia violated a treaty means that they're entirely at fault for this incident.
Where do you even get your
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Can you give us a link to that document or "treaty"... For me is like Mexicans trying to claim that the Gulf of Mexico and other territories lost to the U.S.A are theirs. There is nothing we can do about it.. peace out
Ukranian vessels were trespassing the waters of Russia so it was Ukrania that did an act of war. (I'm not pro Russia)Ukranian vessels were trespassing the waters of Russia so it was Ukrania that did an act of war. (I'm not pro Russia) I'm just saying that Ukrainians already lost some territories to Russia why try to recover it?
Uhhhh; Ukraine and Russia had a joint treaty over that water way. A country just can't lay claims to something covered by a treaty arbitrarily. The fact that Russia violated a treaty means that they're entirely at fault for this incident.
Where do you even get your
That's right! They have a joint treaty over a SHARED waterway, where at some point, the Ukrainian border ends and the Russian border begins. They crossed the border as defined in that agreement.
Where the hell do you get your propaganda from? Jesus christ; it was a joint water way that Russia illegally seized. Honestly, I don't see any country in the world ever entering in another treaty with Russia again -- because they obviously can't be trusted.
Ukranian vessels were trespassing the waters of Russia so it was Ukrania that did an act of war. (I'm not pro Russia)Ukranian vessels were trespassing the waters of Russia so it was Ukrania that did an act of war. (I'm not pro Russia) I'm just saying that Ukrainians already lost some territories to Russia why try to recover it?
Uhhhh; Ukraine and Russia had a joint treaty over that water way. A country just can't lay claims to something covered by a treaty arbitrarily. The fact that Russia violated a treaty means that they're entirely at fault for this incident.
Where do you even get your
That's right! They have a joint treaty over a SHARED waterway, where at some point, the Ukrainian border ends and the Russian border begins. They crossed the border as defined in that agreement.
Ukranian vessels were trespassing the waters of Russia so it was Ukrania that did an act of war. (I'm not pro Russia)Ukranian vessels were trespassing the waters of Russia so it was Ukrania that did an act of war. (I'm not pro Russia) I'm just saying that Ukrainians already lost some territories to Russia why try to recover it?
Uhhhh; Ukraine and Russia had a joint treaty over that water way. A country just can't lay claims to something covered by a treaty arbitrarily. The fact that Russia violated a treaty means that they're entirely at fault for this incident.
Where do you even get your
Ukranian vessels were trespassing the waters of Russia so it was Ukrania that did an act of war. (I'm not pro Russia)Ukranian vessels were trespassing the waters of Russia so it was Ukrania that did an act of war. (I'm not pro Russia) I'm just saying that Ukrainians already lost some territories to Russia why try to recover it?
http://uk.businessinsider.com/mi6-head-alex-younger-russia-wont-be-trusted-2018-12
Russian asshats. The whole world needs to treat that shithole like north korea, and stop all trade with them.
Russian asshats. The whole world needs to treat that shithole like north korea, and stop all trade with them.
Except what if Ukraine bought energy from the European-United States global power grid instead of importing gas/oil from Russia? That's cripple the Russian economy even more.
European-United States global power grid - what is that? Buying Yamal gas on our Far North and delivering to Poland in tankers?
Or bringing Qatar gas and saying "it's American"?
HVDC grid between North Africa, Europe, and United States.
https://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/the-smarter-grid/lets-build-a-global-power-grid
Except what if Ukraine bought energy from the European-United States global power grid instead of importing gas/oil from Russia? That's cripple the Russian economy even more.
European-United States global power grid - what is that? Buying Yamal gas on our Far North and delivering to Poland in tankers?
Or bringing Qatar gas and saying "it's American"?
To pass electricity on that hypothetical grid, one needs to generate it first.
2nd question: how Ukraine will pay for that energy, with it's deforestation selling all it's trees, or by selling even more russophobia and buying even more weapons?
Ukraine cannot be even properly privatized, because of Nazi batallions of far-right schizos roaming it freely. It's worse there than it was in the 90-ies in Russia.
America has complete and utter sea and air superiority from a military perspective. There is no nation in this world that can stand against the mighty naval and air capacities of the United States.
Except... Syria? How all this helped to overthrow Asad? I'll tell you a secret: that would be the least of Putin's concerns. A huge, rich neighbour buying natural gas and petrol at world prices, without trying to cheat every January, would be always good.
Even rocket launching sites on land would be not as bad: a rocket launched from land can be intercepted not far from the launching site.
The scary thing was NATO occupation of Crimea and uncontrolled military ships traffic in Black Sea because of that: a rocket launched from a ship has a chance to succeed.
So seriously speaking, when Odessa will fall, this direction of attack on Russia can be abandoned all together. Either fall of Odessa, or Turkey becoming outwardly anti-Ango-Saxon.
But there are 4 or 5 more directions. Question is, can US engage all or most of them at once.
Even rocket launching sites on land would be not as bad: a rocket launched from land can be intercepted not far from the launching site.
The scary thing was NATO occupation of Crimea and uncontrolled military ships traffic in Black Sea because of that: a rocket launched from a ship has a chance to succeed.
So seriously speaking, when Odessa will fall, this direction of attack on Russia can be abandoned all together. Either fall of Odessa, or Turkey becoming outwardly anti-Ango-Saxon.
But there are 4 or 5 more directions. Question is, can US engage all or most of them at once.
Except what if Ukraine bought energy from the European-United States global power grid instead of importing gas/oil from Russia? That's cripple the Russian economy even more.
America has plenty of cruise missiles and plenty of ships in the black sea. Russia is very lucky to have unlawfully seized the Sea of Azov.
America has complete and utter sea and air superiority from a military perspective. There is no nation in this world that can stand against the mighty naval and air capacities of the United States.
The largest air fleet in the world is the United States air force.
Want to take a guess at the second largest air fleet? Well, it's actually the United State's navy. Rofl. Our sea fairing military branch could single-handily claim air superiority against any single nation.
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