Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] - page 111. (Read 73622 times)

Here's an interesting vid by Technocracy, Inc from 1947.  Notable that Canada had them turn off their radios as a condition of entry.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUregwsi_cw

The stated goal of the Technocrats was to form a 'North American Technate' replacing the existing democratic governments.  It's not surprising that there were some suspicious about them, and again, emulating the Italian Fascists likely only fueled this.

Ultimately, and seemingly not long after this rally, it seems that a (very logical) decision to just go underground and work on the project through industrial and academic channels was adopted.  Now it's popping out with inspiring slogans such as "You will own nothing and be happy."

I think you have opened a can of worms...

Large fire breaks out on Moscow industrial site
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/d_XPn8NNuSg

Fire breaks out at Russian defence ministry
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_iOrM1dFhAU

Moment second drone hits tower block in Moscow
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QBhGg-uU7qw

Moscow battles large fire after overnight drone attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14tDIqxgMno

The building of the Federal Customs Service is on fire in Moscow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkF_bqmVm5c

I guess attacking your neighbour is not such a profitable business. It also seems that Ukraine has create an special section to deal with traitors an those who have ordered the worst crimes.

https://www.economist.com/europe/2023/09/05/inside-ukraines-assassination-programme

It is behind a paywall, but summing up: if you do bad stuff against Ukraine, you have to watch your back for the rest of your (short?) life. And this includes civil and military.

Meanwhile, Russian SSO work behind enemy lines:

https://t.me/intelslava/51062

LOL, Musk again wanted to show himself more important than he really is. Maybe such things works inside US, but if someone really thinks that such attack would cause World War II, then I don't really know what to say. I just remind you that Ukraine already destroyed Russian flagship Moskva. Also, Ukraine made at least 2 serious attacks against another pride of Russia - Crimea Bridge. And it didn't caused WWIII, despite that drunk clow Dimon Medvedev promised judgement day if Ukraine will attack Crimea.

What I find most difficult is to believe that someone can actually manage to get expelled from Canada -  that would be something to be seen.

Anyway back on-topic, in the last 24 hours, Ruzzia has lost an inordinate amount of warfare material. Even if you do not believe the exact figures, it is an indication of how quickly Ruzzia is self-demilitarising quite effectively. If this continues, it may be possible to have a couple of decades free of Ruzzian wrongdoing around Europe - even may loose the ability to intervene in other regions.

Just some info points to: 624 soldiers, 23 tanks, 23 BMP and 31 artillery systems. I have even seen a video of an expensive HIMARS being used to take a quite WW II howitzer - not your typical high value target.

Musk's grandfather was the head guy of the 'Technocracy' movement in Canada.  He got run out of the country and went to South Africa.  Technocracy, Inc was a political movement of some note almost 100 years ago, but they sort of went underground.  They drew a lot of inspiration from the Italian Fascist party and it caused some suspicions and unwanted attention after WW-II was done.

Again, at it's core, Technocracy is an economic system.  The Technocrats documented currency as being labeled in Joules, but currently 'carbon credits' are more tenable due to the scammy 'climate crisis' project.  Ultimately they are the same thing.  The characteristic of the system is very fine grained surveillance so that accounting can be done.  For that one needs an 'internet'.

One label commonly used for such a solution is a 'fourth industrial revolution', but you can say 'great reset' or 'new normal' or 'build-back-better' if you so choose.  It's all more-or-less the same thing.

The surveillance aspect, and a single-point command-control economy, make Technocracy a pretty compelling option for people who control dynastic wealth pools under our current debt-backed monetary system.  It goes without saying that they'll be the ones creating and installing the 'Technocrats'.  If it ends up being a stable system, it is unbeatable for control freaks.  If not, it can help transport wealth across the gap which will exist between the current USD reserve currency system (started when Nixon 'temporarily suspended' gold backing for the USD) and a yet-to-be-born next debt-backed system.

For my part, I don't really see any evidence the Elon Musk is much more than a convenient puppet, chosen mostly as the spawn of some of the upper echelon players, and emplaced to do psychological operations on the plebs and spend 'family money' toward achieving an objective which is desirable to 'his people'.

Interesting misuse of a word. A technocrat is something completely different until some nut-head decides to open a website. They are not a "ruling elite", but rather typically identified with mid to mid-high managers.


Musk is not a "manager" and if you ask me, he is not a technical expert, he is a leader and a strategist at most. Elon & Co do not want uncontrolled wars, because those have potential to change the status-quo.

Musk is a hard-core Technocrat.  The internet was in some real ways developed by Technocrats for Technocracy and it is fundamental to their goals.  (Technocracy is an economic system 'backed' by energy and where currency is denominated in units of energy.  This contrasts with modern debt-backed fiat monetary systems.)

If/when things escalate to a particular level all space-based communications systems and all undersea cable systems will go dark almost instantly and they probably won't be back any time soon.  Not only will it be harder to find fresh porn but it will shift strategic balances of power in very noteworthy ways.  I doubt that Musk or any of the Technocrats are keen to trigger such an event.  At least not at this time.

For those who are interested, Patrick Wood has done some of the best and most comprehensive work on the Technocracy movement:  https://www.technocracy.news/

Your shilling is too weak. Elon Musk is preventing at least 4-5 world wars every day.

They had already converted Putins flag ship The Moskva into a submarine months earlier.....no WW3.

Must be nice to get to play war games without even having to go through basic training and walk away with an IOU from Putin.  Might come back to bite him though, when everyone starts trying to blow up each others satellites and the US Spaceforce has to prioritize defense.

Sure... they went to Poland and then to Ruzzia. That is tooootally believable.


Maybe he is counting the kidnapped deported children as half too.

Did Elon Musk just help prevent World War III?

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1699917639043404146

“There was an emergency request from government authorities to activate Starlink all the way to Sevastopol.

The obvious intent being to sink most of the Russian fleet at anchor.

If I had agreed to their request, then SpaceX would be explicitly complicit in a major act of war and conflict escalation.“

Gotta subtract the ~900k that were forcibly deported and given "asylum" status if youre counting how many want to be there.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1312584/ukrainian-refugees-by-country/

Your graph shows how many CROSSED the border at surrounding countries, and not how many ended up
in those countries

If you want to actually make a difference you should sign up to help the people in Hawaii or maybe find a Kremlin approved volunteer position instead of wasting your time with RFK. He was polling well because of his last name.  They didn't know he was a clueless conspiritard who's family consider him a disgrace in June.  Now they do. (No offense to all the clueless conspiritards in this thread)

https://pro.morningconsult.com/analysis/joe-biden-rfk-jr-poll-sept-2023

People fled Ukraine because they are being killed in Ukraine, people fled Ruzzia because they did not want to be sent to kill and die for no reason or simply because they do not want to be there even if they are not being attacked so your usual argument of "is the same or worse" does not fly (not that it ever flies).

You are spreading false information, and worse, of the type that easy to debunk. Most of those who fled are living in Europe, and not in refugee camps, but working, living and understanding the benefits of joining the EU.



To be fair, I am missing on the graph the ones that went to UK and it may be old, - this may be a better source:

1.5 million to Ruzzia, Poland border alone is more than 4.5 Million.

https://reliefweb.int/map/poland/ukraine-situation-refugees-ukraine-across-europe-06-july-2022

See Branko, talking is free and you can say whatever you want, but when people vote with their feet reality catches up.

for all of u who really want to end the war, and the waste of american tax dollars that could be helping people in HI who burned to death in a fire,  and millions of others, please sign up as a volunteer with the RFK campaign for democratic presidential nomination. u can find the info on the texans for RFK twitter id. i signed up today.

trump gets 40% Biden gets 40% approval, de santis gets 40%. ONLY RFK is getting 55% favorability rating across party lines. if we can make him the nominee we wont ever have Trump or Biden again.

Much more people fled Ukraine, so by your logic its even worse country.
What is interesting, most of those that fled, went to Russia

For what I know, a few million left Ruzzia looking for the nearest Mc or Apple Store. Or maybe went to a country that would rather not force them to fight and die without any particular reason. Or maybe there are actually other things in Ruzzia that are more fundamentally wrong in the way it is run.

Why is it hard to predict? If someone told me west will invest half a trillion I'd expect Ukraine to be in Moscow with troops already...
I mean they got 10 Russia yearly military budgets in just a year, and they're fighting army led by gravely ill commander,
using only shovels, few rusty t-34s, and 90% generals are already dead by Himars

Russia economy in shambles due to sanctions not imposed even on nazi Germany, and most importantly, no iPhones
and McDonalds...imagine moral of young Russians after Apple and McDonalds left