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Somehow the people of Russia are finding your theory unconvincing. Russia has been bleeding population for decades and the projections are even worse. I guess in a way you are right, there is not much of a fight to have a place in Russia. The invasion of Ukraine however shows that there quite of a fight to stay well away from the "sun of Russia" and its "vast territories". If you like to have plenty of room for yourself... you are in the right place.
Yep, i know.
Apart from that, most the RF territory is just too unhospitable, unless you are a deer.
All hope for global warming. Grin

After the Scottish independence referendum, the population of the UK may also decline. And if you return the occupied territories to Ireland, then even more so. But don't worry, quality is more important than quantity.

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Sorry, but as a parent, I find this as disadvantage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMBQJU352Zs
I am a parent and i find american conservative fear mongering and misleading podcasts to be a disadvantage as well. Especially when they raport about about countries they know nothing about, or aftermath of any situation. Watch tucker Carlson as well if you like to listen more of lying biggots. No matter what actual experts would say, please don't google experts what ever you do, only christian conservative podcasts, because those wouldn't be twisting reality, now wouldn't they.

I agree with you, showing naked transgender people private parts to minors is twisted

So you should be quiet and not to lean out, not to express your opinion in public in order to not being oppressed? Interestingly it turns out that the regime crushes those who disagree. It probably sees them as a threat. The question arises, is it not unreasonable? Maybe this disagreement arises among people who actually care. It is very convenient to abdicate all responsibility for what your country is doing and say that no one cares. What will you say when you are banned from leaving the country or sent a summons? Will you care then? Apparently, some kind of personal tragedy created by the state is always necessary in order for an individual russian to think about whether he cares about something or not.

Snowden, Assange and Manning are laughing at you
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That is the only good thing left in Russia,people still love families and degeneration is not as en mass as is in the West.However this does not justify at all going to invade another country just for the sake of it and blaming it on NATO expansion,this was the first reason they started this war after all and now they have failed that objective miserably as they just added 1300 km of borders with NATO as Finland join NATO exactly because of this Russian aggression out of nowhere.

I don't think Russia is in a position to call itself lucky nor their citizens unless they agree to be at least 30-40 years back in technology advancement.The sanctions clearly prohibit Russia advanced chips and they are now looking to buy them from India and China which suck compared to Western quality.
Not the only one. I can also attribute to the advantages of Russia its vast territory. There is no need to especially fight for a place under the sun, because there is plenty of space for everyone.


Somehow the people of Russia are finding your theory unconvincing. Russia has been bleeding population for decades and the projections are even worse. I guess in a way you are right, there is not much of a fight to have a place in Russia. The invasion of Ukraine however shows that there quite of a fight to stay well away from the "sun of Russia" and its "vast territories". If you like to have plenty of room for yourself... you are in the right place.

Apart from that, most the RF territory is just too unhospitable, unless you are a deer.

https://www.rand.org/pubs/issue_papers/IP162.html
https://akarlin.com/russia-demographic-update-vi/



Even if people in the west have gone mad, it doesn’t change the problematic situation in russia. You can not confident yourself and your position as a better one only because you think that somebody else has worse conditions, which you don’t wish for yourself. Maybe you don’t have “parent #1 and #2”, but it doesn’t mean at all that russian families are healthier or happier, considering a lot of cases of incomplete families and domestic violence, the inability to provide for their children, and so on.
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The gender discussion is senseless.  Allowing people to decide about their lives is not "degeneration". Killing them is.
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I am glad you finally admit the point of my questions. And finally admit that we are talking about russian aggression here, not some special operation, not some fight for the right of russian speaking people.
One does not exclude the other. It seems that I really am much freer than you and can not limit myself to propaganda slogans.

Of course, they are relevant to me. This is my home being destroyed for more than a year, not yours. I have to live in in ignorance about when your soldiers will stop shoveling into my country and destroying it in every possible way.
It is sad that you and your country have become victims of Russian aggression. It is a pity that your president, who came to power on promises to end the war in Donbas, sabotaged the Minsk agreements and dragged Ukraine into the shit it is in now. Everything passes, and this too shall pass.

Answering your question - how do you know I haven’t done it?
Are you a psych ops agent or are you holding a Kalashnikov sitting in a trench with one hand and typing here with the other?

Update:

Meanwhile, in the free democratic German press, an article appeared about the worthlessness of the Russian Lancet, which bounced off Gepard without causing any harm.

The fact that before that the Lancets destroyed and disabled an entire S-300 division, and then damaged the Gepard anti-aircraft complex, which this division was supposed to protect against low-flying targets, is modestly silent in the article. Grin
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You ask good questions, but are you ready to answer them yourself before hearing my answer? Moreover, for you, as a citizen of Ukraine, they are much more relevant. Why don't you oppose Russian aggression with weapons in your hands?

I am glad you finally admit the point of my questions. And finally admit that we are talking about russian aggression here, not some special operation, not some fight for the right of russian speaking people. Of course, they are relevant to me. This is my home being destroyed for more than a year, not yours. I have to live in in ignorance about when your soldiers will stop shoveling into my country and destroying it in every possible way. Answering your question - how do you know I haven’t done it?

It's nice that people find time to talk about Russian aggression. Almost all countries have aggression.

Don't forget the US and Nato aggression that pushed the Ukrainian aggression into aggressively destroying Ukrainian and Russian people, and their property, in the Donbas area for years before Russia even entered Ukraine to stop the Ukraine/US/Nato aggression.

Ukrainians who have an opposite understanding regarding what you think, have fled Ukraine because they saw it was becoming a US/Nato battlefield.

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People in the West often wonder why people in Russia don't go out to rallies and overthrow the evil tyrant Putin? The answer is simple - no one cares, the totalitarian dictatorship does not particularly oppress anyone. Except those who are financed from the West and are trying to overthrow it.

So you should be quiet and not to lean out, not to express your opinion in public in order to not being oppressed? Interestingly it turns out that the regime crushes those who disagree. It probably sees them as a threat. The question arises, is it not unreasonable? Maybe this disagreement arises among people who actually care. It is very convenient to abdicate all responsibility for what your country is doing and say that no one cares. What will you say when you are banned from leaving the country or sent a summons? Will you care then? Apparently, some kind of personal tragedy created by the state is always necessary in order for an individual russian to think about whether he cares about something or not.
You ask good questions, but are you ready to answer them yourself before hearing my answer? Moreover, for you, as a citizen of Ukraine, they are much more relevant. Why don't you oppose Russian aggression with weapons in your hands?

I am glad you finally admit the point of my questions. And finally admit that we are talking about russian aggression here, not some special operation, not some fight for the right of russian speaking people. Of course, they are relevant to me. This is my home being destroyed for more than a year, not yours. I have to live in in ignorance about when your soldiers will stop shoveling into my country and destroying it in every possible way. Answering your question - how do you know I haven’t done it?
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People in the West often wonder why people in Russia don't go out to rallies and overthrow the evil tyrant Putin? The answer is simple - no one cares, the totalitarian dictatorship does not particularly oppress anyone. Except those who are financed from the West and are trying to overthrow it.

So you should be quiet and not to lean out, not to express your opinion in public in order to not being oppressed? Interestingly it turns out that the regime crushes those who disagree. It probably sees them as a threat. The question arises, is it not unreasonable? Maybe this disagreement arises among people who actually care. It is very convenient to abdicate all responsibility for what your country is doing and say that no one cares. What will you say when you are banned from leaving the country or sent a summons? Will you care then? Apparently, some kind of personal tragedy created by the state is always necessary in order for an individual russian to think about whether he cares about something or not.
You ask good questions, but are you ready to answer them yourself before hearing my answer? Moreover, for you, as a citizen of Ukraine, they are much more relevant. Why don't you oppose Russian aggression with weapons in your hands? Why don't you defend democracy against the attacks of the hated totalitarian regime on your home country?
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People in the West often wonder why people in Russia don't go out to rallies and overthrow the evil tyrant Putin? The answer is simple - no one cares, the totalitarian dictatorship does not particularly oppress anyone. Except those who are financed from the West and are trying to overthrow it.

So you should be quiet and not to lean out, not to express your opinion in public in order to not being oppressed? Interestingly it turns out that the regime crushes those who disagree. It probably sees them as a threat. The question arises, is it not unreasonable? Maybe this disagreement arises among people who actually care. It is very convenient to abdicate all responsibility for what your country is doing and say that no one cares. What will you say when you are banned from leaving the country or sent a summons? Will you care then? Apparently, some kind of personal tragedy created by the state is always necessary in order for an individual russian to think about whether he cares about something or not.
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I would change some things in Russia, but not too much. In general, everything is not bad here, there is something wrong in striving for change for the sake of change. sometimes it seems to me that people in the West have gone mad. All these "parent number one", "parent number two", black foot kissing and other gay parades. Fuck that kind of progress. It seems that being a white heterosexual male in the West is now extremely disadvantageous and I am glad that I was lucky to be born in Russia.
Yeah, we are lucky that you were born in russia as well.

I am pretty sure that your frail alpha male egos is one of the reasons that Russia won't be a superpower in the future. You can't build anything concrete on such a fragile foundation.
I can't see being a hetero being any kind of disadvantageous but maybe it's because my identity is quite strong and i don't get frightened so easily when 2 people of same sex love each other. But it's totally understandable in your case when all lgtb info is banned in russia that you would get disinformation instead. So maybe it's not your fault being ignorant.
I don't care what two or more people of either sex do at home. But I find the recent Western practice of sex reassignment surgery among underage teenagers just disgusting. Persons who have not reached legal maturity should not make such irreversible and traumatic decisions regarding their natural gender identity, and adults who allow them to do so at a protest age should be held criminally responsible. Gender identity is like a hole in the ass - everyone has it. But don't show it to my kids.

I am also glad that I can compliment any pretty girl in Russia and be sure that she does not and never had a dick in her panties, and I will not get a sexual harassment lawsuit from her. You may consider me old-fashioned in this regard.

As for the fact that I am misinformed about the true state of affairs about the LGBT movement in the West, because LGBT propaganda is prohibited in Russia - do not flatter yourself too much about this. For example, this forum in Russia is also banned.

That is the only good thing left in Russia,people still love families and degeneration is not as en mass as is in the West.However this does not justify at all going to invade another country just for the sake of it and blaming it on NATO expansion,this was the first reason they started this war after all and now they have failed that objective miserably as they just added 1300 km of borders with NATO as Finland join NATO exactly because of this Russian aggression out of nowhere.

I don't think Russia is in a position to call itself lucky nor their citizens unless they agree to be at least 30-40 years back in technology advancement.The sanctions clearly prohibit Russia advanced chips and they are now looking to buy them from India and China which suck compared to Western quality.
Not the only one. I can also attribute to the advantages of Russia its vast territory. There is no need to especially fight for a place under the sun, because there is plenty of space for everyone.

Even if people in the west have gone mad, it doesn’t change the problematic situation in russia. You can not confident yourself and your position as a better one only because you think that somebody else has worse conditions, which you don’t wish for yourself. Maybe you don’t have “parent #1 and #2”, but it doesn’t mean at all that russian families are healthier or happier, considering a lot of cases of incomplete families and domestic violence, the inability to provide for their children, and so on.

The same applies to gay rhetoric: the fact that you officially despise this issue does not mean that there are no homosexual people in society. What is the result of all this negative rhetoric? You simply pretend that these problems do not exist, when in fact the only result is the restriction of the freedoms of citizens. The same goes for war. How can you say that you were lucky to be born in russia, if the very fact of this birth puts you in front of the risk of being killed in a war against your will? You can be as happy as you want that you are a straight white male who can openly express disgust for Western realities, but what is the point if you are doing it just because the state allowed you to? Tomorrow the position of the government may change, and then what to do if you are doomed to live in a country that is not free?
The strictness of laws in Russia is offset by the optionality of their implementation. As an ideological anarchist, I can say that at the everyday level, anarchism in Russia is the dominant trend. There are not so many points of contact with bureaucracy of any kind for an ordinary person in life. I am sure that there is much more freedom in my life than you have. People in the West often wonder why people in Russia don't go out to rallies and overthrow the evil tyrant Putin? The answer is simple - no one cares, the totalitarian dictatorship does not particularly oppress anyone. Except those who are financed from the West and are trying to overthrow it.
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Sorry, but as a parent, I find this as disadvantage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMBQJU352Zs
I am a parent and i find american conservative fear mongering and misleading podcasts to be a disadvantage as well. Especially when they raport about about countries they know nothing about, or aftermath of any situation. Watch tucker Carlson as well if you like to listen more of lying biggots. No matter what actual experts would say, please don't google experts what ever you do, only christian conservative podcasts, because those wouldn't be twisting reality, now wouldn't they.
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I would change some things in Russia, but not too much. In general, everything is not bad here, there is something wrong in striving for change for the sake of change. sometimes it seems to me that people in the West have gone mad. All these "parent number one", "parent number two", black foot kissing and other gay parades. Fuck that kind of progress. It seems that being a white heterosexual male in the West is now extremely disadvantageous and I am glad that I was lucky to be born in Russia.
Yeah, we are lucky that you were born in russia as well.

I am pretty sure that your frail alpha male egos is one of the reasons that Russia won't be a superpower in the future. You can't build anything concrete on such a fragile foundation.
I can't see being a hetero being any kind of disadvantageous but maybe it's because my identity is quite strong and i don't get frightened so easily when 2 people of same sex love each other. But it's totally understandable in your case when all lgtb info is banned in russia that you would get disinformation instead. So maybe it's not your fault being ignorant.

Sorry, but as a parent, I find this as disadvantage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMBQJU352Zs
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I would change some things in Russia, but not too much. In general, everything is not bad here, there is something wrong in striving for change for the sake of change. sometimes it seems to me that people in the West have gone mad. All these "parent number one", "parent number two", black foot kissing and other gay parades. Fuck that kind of progress. It seems that being a white heterosexual male in the West is now extremely disadvantageous and I am glad that I was lucky to be born in Russia.

Even if people in the west have gone mad, it doesn’t change the problematic situation in russia. You can not confident yourself and your position as a better one only because you think that somebody else has worse conditions, which you don’t wish for yourself. Maybe you don’t have “parent #1 and #2”, but it doesn’t mean at all that russian families are healthier or happier, considering a lot of cases of incomplete families and domestic violence, the inability to provide for their children, and so on.

The same applies to gay rhetoric: the fact that you officially despise this issue does not mean that there are no homosexual people in society. What is the result of all this negative rhetoric? You simply pretend that these problems do not exist, when in fact the only result is the restriction of the freedoms of citizens. The same goes for war. How can you say that you were lucky to be born in russia, if the very fact of this birth puts you in front of the risk of being killed in a war against your will? You can be as happy as you want that you are a straight white male who can openly express disgust for Western realities, but what is the point if you are doing it just because the state allowed you to? Tomorrow the position of the government may change, and then what to do if you are doomed to live in a country that is not free?
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I would change some things in Russia, but not too much. In general, everything is not bad here, there is something wrong in striving for change for the sake of change. sometimes it seems to me that people in the West have gone mad. All these "parent number one", "parent number two", black foot kissing and other gay parades. Fuck that kind of progress. It seems that being a white heterosexual male in the West is now extremely disadvantageous and I am glad that I was lucky to be born in Russia.
Yeah, we are lucky that you were born in russia as well.

I am pretty sure that your frail alpha male egos is one of the reasons that Russia won't be a superpower in the future. You can't build anything concrete on such a fragile foundation.
I can't see being a hetero being any kind of disadvantageous but maybe it's because my identity is quite strong and i don't get frightened so easily when 2 people of same sex love each other. But it's totally understandable in your case when all lgtb info is banned in russia that you would get disinformation instead. So maybe it's not your fault being ignorant.
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One of the deepest problems of these people is that they are always looking for someone to blame for their misfortunes and nightmarish lives. Now they blame the West, Ukraine, NATO, in the future they may blame putin. But this will not lead to anything, since the very feeling of inferiority caused by the resentment experienced by the whole country does not motivate development (and no protests will help it, especially considering the fact that those protest are far away from beeing full-scale). The point is not that it will be too late, but that nothing will change if they simply transfer their accusations to another facility. Instead of constantly looking for someone to throw off the responsibility for their own problems, they should start doing something to solve them. It is to do it yourself, and not wait for the arrival of the "best ruler" who will clean up after the previous tsar. They need to stop placing their hopes on their superiors and start taking responsibility for themselves. Only then can we talk about some changes in russia.
Experts on Russia pulled themselves into the topic. How do you know about deepest problems of Russian people, did you go to Moscow to work to wash toilets at the train station or build an Olympic stadium in Sochi?

I would change some things in Russia, but not too much. In general, everything is not bad here, there is something wrong in striving for change for the sake of change. sometimes it seems to me that people in the West have gone mad. All these "parent number one", "parent number two", black foot kissing and other gay parades. Fuck that kind of progress. It seems that being a white heterosexual male in the West is now extremely disadvantageous and I am glad that I was lucky to be born in Russia.

That is the only good thing left in Russia,people still love families and degeneration is not as en mass as is in the West.However this does not justify at all going to invade another country just for the sake of it and blaming it on NATO expansion,this was the first reason they started this war after all and now they have failed that objective miserably as they just added 1300 km of borders with NATO as Finland join NATO exactly because of this Russian aggression out of nowhere.

I don't think Russia is in a position to call itself lucky nor their citizens unless they agree to be at least 30-40 years back in technology advancement.The sanctions clearly prohibit Russia advanced chips and they are now looking to buy them from India and China which suck compared to Western quality.
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Four S-300's peeked their noses out from months of hiding yesterday and promptly got lanced. Talk about a bad day!

The question is whether the German 'Gepard' system which was supposed to protect the S-300's simply sucks, the operators simply suck, or was there some sabotage somewhere along the line.  I'm sure that for most Germans, and probably for most Ukrainians for that matter, the sooner Russia takes what they are going to take, the better, and they just want out.

There is more bad news on other fronts such as the losses of Ukrainian cannon-fodder, but as far as I can tell, the loss of hardware is much more painful to the Ziocons.

I suggest to the jUkroid brown-shirts lay off on burning churches and persecuting Christians just in case the misfortunes can be traced back to God getting a little bit pissed off.
Judging by this screenshot from the onboard camera of the loitering ammunition Lancet, the 'Gepard' guarding the S-300 was also damaged or eliminated.
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Four S-300's peeked their noses out from months of hiding yesterday and promptly got lanced. Talk about a bad day!

The question is whether the German 'Gepard' system which was supposed to protect the S-300's simply sucks, the operators simply suck, or was there some sabotage somewhere along the line.  I'm sure that for most Germans, and probably for most Ukrainians for that matter, the sooner Russia takes what they are going to take, the better, and they just want out.

There is more bad news on other fronts such as the losses of Ukrainian cannon-fodder, but as far as I can tell, the loss of hardware is much more painful to the Ziocons.

I suggest to the jUkroid brown-shirts lay off on burning churches and persecuting Christians just in case the misfortunes can be traced back to God getting a little bit pissed off.

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One of the deepest problems of these people is that they are always looking for someone to blame for their misfortunes and nightmarish lives. Now they blame the West, Ukraine, NATO, in the future they may blame putin. But this will not lead to anything, since the very feeling of inferiority caused by the resentment experienced by the whole country does not motivate development (and no protests will help it, especially considering the fact that those protest are far away from beeing full-scale). The point is not that it will be too late, but that nothing will change if they simply transfer their accusations to another facility. Instead of constantly looking for someone to throw off the responsibility for their own problems, they should start doing something to solve them. It is to do it yourself, and not wait for the arrival of the "best ruler" who will clean up after the previous tsar. They need to stop placing their hopes on their superiors and start taking responsibility for themselves. Only then can we talk about some changes in russia.
Experts on Russia pulled themselves into the topic. How do you know about deepest problems of Russian people, did you go to Moscow to work to wash toilets at the train station or build an Olympic stadium in Sochi?

You think someone can know about something only from his personal experience?

I didn’t do all this, but it seems to me, that you did and you are really proud of it

So you're not only racist, but elitist snob too?
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One of the deepest problems of these people is that they are always looking for someone to blame for their misfortunes and nightmarish lives. Now they blame the West, Ukraine, NATO, in the future they may blame putin. But this will not lead to anything, since the very feeling of inferiority caused by the resentment experienced by the whole country does not motivate development (and no protests will help it, especially considering the fact that those protest are far away from beeing full-scale). The point is not that it will be too late, but that nothing will change if they simply transfer their accusations to another facility. Instead of constantly looking for someone to throw off the responsibility for their own problems, they should start doing something to solve them. It is to do it yourself, and not wait for the arrival of the "best ruler" who will clean up after the previous tsar. They need to stop placing their hopes on their superiors and start taking responsibility for themselves. Only then can we talk about some changes in russia.
Experts on Russia pulled themselves into the topic. How do you know about deepest problems of Russian people, did you go to Moscow to work to wash toilets at the train station or build an Olympic stadium in Sochi?

You think someone can know about something only from his personal experience?

I didn’t do all this, but it seems to me, that you did and you are really proud of it
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One of the deepest problems of these people is that they are always looking for someone to blame for their misfortunes and nightmarish lives. Now they blame the West, Ukraine, NATO, in the future they may blame putin. But this will not lead to anything, since the very feeling of inferiority caused by the resentment experienced by the whole country does not motivate development (and no protests will help it, especially considering the fact that those protest are far away from beeing full-scale). The point is not that it will be too late, but that nothing will change if they simply transfer their accusations to another facility. Instead of constantly looking for someone to throw off the responsibility for their own problems, they should start doing something to solve them. It is to do it yourself, and not wait for the arrival of the "best ruler" who will clean up after the previous tsar. They need to stop placing their hopes on their superiors and start taking responsibility for themselves. Only then can we talk about some changes in russia.
Experts on Russia pulled themselves into the topic. How do you know about deepest problems of Russian people, did you go to Moscow to work to wash toilets at the train station or build an Olympic stadium in Sochi?

I would change some things in Russia, but not too much. In general, everything is not bad here, there is something wrong in striving for change for the sake of change. sometimes it seems to me that people in the West have gone mad. All these "parent number one", "parent number two", black foot kissing and other gay parades. Fuck that kind of progress. It seems that being a white heterosexual male in the West is now extremely disadvantageous and I am glad that I was lucky to be born in Russia.
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Russia has openly offered itself to the West since the collapse of the USSR, and with just a little more feeling for its interests,
which the West could then quite painlessly incorporate with its power its strategic interests in a broader sense - everything
could have been different.

Yeah, a little more feeling for its interest - just to unfair,aly preserve its impact on the rest of the post-soviet countries. Let them be independent, but let it be pretended, not real. And we will palm off our pro-russian politicians, influence public sentiment, and split the country from within. Of course, everything could have been different. Talk about everything being different with Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia and many other countries.

Russia is isolated completely and they have failed this war no matter how it ends from now.Economically speaking and with the sanctions put to them they need at least 40 years in order to keep up with Western advanced technologies which they have no access anymore as they cannot import vital technological chips for their devices,this alone for me is devastating but the results of such move will be felt with the passing of a couple of years.It will be exactly then that Russian citizens themselves will not care anymore about their government and wide protests will go on,they will see how far behind they will be.They will be poorer and they will blame Putin them but it will be too late.

One of the deepest problems of these people is that they are always looking for someone to blame for their misfortunes and nightmarish lives. Now they blame the West, Ukraine, NATO, in the future they may blame putin. But this will not lead to anything, since the very feeling of inferiority caused by the resentment experienced by the whole country does not motivate development (and no protests will help it, especially considering the fact that those protest are far away from beeing full-scale). The point is not that it will be too late, but that nothing will change if they simply transfer their accusations to another facility. Instead of constantly looking for someone to throw off the responsibility for their own problems, they should start doing something to solve them. It is to do it yourself, and not wait for the arrival of the "best ruler" who will clean up after the previous tsar. They need to stop placing their hopes on their superiors and start taking responsibility for themselves. Only then can we talk about some changes in russia.
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