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Did the IRA only hit legitimate targets during a war? Did they not, for example, set bomb a city centre with no particular strategic value or target?

The fact that a concealed bomb is used does not make it a terror attack. RF is at war with Ukraine, espionage, propaganda and production centres are legitimate targets. It would be not  be acceptable to bomb a supermarket, shell a Theatre or kill civilians, steal their property and mass-grave them.

I support the peaceful (read it again) right to self determination and, in general, a military defensive response against a military attack with the objective of reaching a durable peace. More so when a democracy or something that could become a true democracy is at war with a despot.



Why are Falklands still occupied?

Why is Russia still occupied?

Because Putin still didn't purge all oligarchs that were plundering it and transferring money to the West

You might be accidentally right.


If we play along with Putin and the brainwashed Russia/MAGA crowd, where everything Russia does is a victory and everything not right with the world is Biden or transgender peoples fault, how do you explain Ukrainians still controlling land almost 6 months after the four Eastern Ukraine regions became officially part of Russia.

The front line is now in Russia.
There are more Ukrainian soldiers occupying Russia than the other way around.
Russia went from a special military operation that was supposed to only last a few months (according to be.open) to having to mobilize hundreds of thousands of civilians and bring in a nazi private military company to help defend mother russia...

And this probably is part of the reason:


Because Putin still didn't purge all oligarchs that were plundering it and transferring money to the West


A big chunk of the military budget obviously went somewhere besides the military....
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Did the IRA only hit legitimate targets during a war? Did they not, for example, set bomb a city centre with no particular strategic value or target?

The fact that a concealed bomb is used does not make it a terror attack. RF is at war with Ukraine, espionage, propaganda and production centres are legitimate targets. It would be not  be acceptable to bomb a supermarket, shell a Theatre or kill civilians, steal their property and mass-grave them.

I support the peaceful (read it again) right to self determination and, in general, a military defensive response against a military attack with the objective of reaching a durable peace. More so when a democracy or something that could become a true democracy is at war with a despot.



Why are Falklands still occupied?

Occupied? By who? I know a consultation took place in Scotland recently and that all these territories decided to leave the UK, but I was not aware that a consultation had taken place in the Maldives - or that anyone had requested it.

I mean, unless you are referring to the 2013 consultation about the independence, in which...

Given how many contradictions there are in US politics, the US will fail long before Russia. The proof of it is in the failed US plan to win through Ukraine.


Even though all the democrats will be dead soon because they got vaccinated?  

Sadly, no.  Most of them have been given covaids which will shorten their lives and make them even more in love with Big Brother since they'll be even more dependent on Him to supply life-long palliative medical 'treatments'.

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In other news, what's this weeks excuse for the the delay of the promised unblocking of Bakhmut (now Artyomovsk)?  Or 'the greatest counter-offensive' or whatever?  Bad weather again?  Or maybe they had it and nobody noticed?  They seem to be behind schedule given that the cock-head clown was promising Crimea by 2023.



Great news for you then, Democrats will live short lives, so you just need to wait to get the government Putin needs in the US. Patience is a virtue.

Excuse for what? There will be no Ukranian offensive. Nothing to do with the bad weather, nothing is going to happen even if the sun shines. No need to worry, you just keep your eyes focused in every inch of Bakhmut and do not worry about anything else. Patience is a virtue.



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Because Putin still didn't purge all oligarchs that were plundering it and transferring money to the West

You mean the great geo-strategist genius who doubled the length of Russia's border with NATO hasn't been able to fix Russia in 23 years? Shocking.

Number of billionaires in Russia when Putin started his promising career of a genocidal dictator: 0
Number of billionaires in Russia today: 100+ (due to sanctions might be down to ~80 by some estimates)

What a great purge of oligarchs. That'll teach them. If you plunder Russia it must be done thusly:

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/1695D/production/_116590529_download.png

Russian billionaires doesn't have anything to do with it. Look at the increase in US billionaires.

The increase in billionaires is simply caused by a banking system that makes inflation. More money to the rich is simply stealing money from the few poor who have some.

The increase in Russian billionaires only came about because Russia started doing fair and free trade with the world, just like the US does. The US didn't like it, so they declared war on Russia... Russia who was out US-ing the US regarding trade.

People and countries and their leaders are waking up to the slave-making operations of the US fiat banking system. That's why they are moving towards BRICS.

When the PEOPLE wake up to the schemes of their rich rulers, things like the billionaires will collapse. And that is what is happening to the US fiat banking system, the petro-dollar. It's starting. People will get hurt, like Ukraine. But the wealthy evil ones will be destroyed.

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Because Putin still didn't purge all oligarchs that were plundering it and transferring money to the West

You mean the great geo-strategist genius who doubled the length of Russia's border with NATO hasn't been able to fix Russia in 23 years? Shocking.

Number of billionaires in Russia when Putin started his promising career of a genocidal dictator: 0
Number of billionaires in Russia today: 100+ (due to sanctions might be down to ~80 by some estimates)

What a great purge of oligarchs. That'll teach them. If you plunder Russia it must be done thusly:

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Did the IRA only hit legitimate targets during a war? Did they not, for example, set bomb a city centre with no particular strategic value or target?

The fact that a concealed bomb is used does not make it a terror attack. RF is at war with Ukraine, espionage, propaganda and production centres are legitimate targets. It would be not  be acceptable to bomb a supermarket, shell a Theatre or kill civilians, steal their property and mass-grave them.

I support the peaceful (read it again) right to self determination and, in general, a military defensive response against a military attack with the objective of reaching a durable peace. More so when a democracy or something that could become a true democracy is at war with a despot.



Why are Falklands still occupied?

Why is Russia still occupied?

Because Putin still didn't purge all oligarchs that were plundering it and transferring money to the West
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Did the IRA only hit legitimate targets during a war? Did they not, for example, set bomb a city centre with no particular strategic value or target?

The fact that a concealed bomb is used does not make it a terror attack. RF is at war with Ukraine, espionage, propaganda and production centres are legitimate targets. It would be not  be acceptable to bomb a supermarket, shell a Theatre or kill civilians, steal their property and mass-grave them.

I support the peaceful (read it again) right to self determination and, in general, a military defensive response against a military attack with the objective of reaching a durable peace. More so when a democracy or something that could become a true democracy is at war with a despot.



Why are Falklands still occupied?

Why is Russia still occupied?
sr. member
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Did the IRA only hit legitimate targets during a war? Did they not, for example, set bomb a city centre with no particular strategic value or target?

The fact that a concealed bomb is used does not make it a terror attack. RF is at war with Ukraine, espionage, propaganda and production centres are legitimate targets. It would be not  be acceptable to bomb a supermarket, shell a Theatre or kill civilians, steal their property and mass-grave them.

I support the peaceful (read it again) right to self determination and, in general, a military defensive response against a military attack with the objective of reaching a durable peace. More so when a democracy or something that could become a true democracy is at war with a despot.



Why are Falklands still occupied?
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Given how many contradictions there are in US politics, the US will fail long before Russia. The proof of it is in the failed US plan to win through Ukraine.


Even though all the democrats will be dead soon because they got vaccinated?  

Sadly, no.  Most of them have been given covaids which will shorten their lives and make them even more in love with Big Brother since they'll be even more dependent on Him to supply life-long palliative medical 'treatments'.

In BADeckerville they will die before the 2024 election.  It's why Trump pushed the vaccine.

Your version is just as stupid though.
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Given how many contradictions there are in US politics, the US will fail long before Russia. The proof of it is in the failed US plan to win through Ukraine.


Even though all the democrats will be dead soon because they got vaccinated? 

Sadly, no.  Most of them have been given covaids which will shorten their lives and make them even more in love with Big Brother since they'll be even more dependent on Him to supply life-long palliative medical 'treatments'.

---

In other news, what's this weeks excuse for the the delay of the promised unblocking of Bakhmut (now Artyomovsk)?  Or 'the greatest counter-offensive' or whatever?  Bad weather again?  Or maybe they had it and nobody noticed?  They seem to be behind schedule given that the cock-head clown was promising Crimea by 2023.

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Meanwhile in St. Peterburg someone exploed infamous Russian propagandist Vladlen Tatarsky. And seems that it happened in one of Prigozhin's restaurants:
https://t.me/informnapalm/16492
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/04/02/war-blogger-vladlen-tatarsky-reportedly-killed-in-a-prigozhin-owned-cafe
In one of his video, recorded at Kremlin he said:
Quote
We'll defeat everyone, we'll kill everyone, we'll rob everyone we need to. Everything will be as we like it
https://t.me/kolezev/13282
It seems that karma finally reached him. Other Russian propagandists won't sleep well tonight.

I would not say exactly "karma". A known centre of propaganda and a gathering of people that, not being the army officially, but clearly part of the war effort in terms of spreading mis-information and pro-Z propaganda, and probably directly involved in cyberthreats... sounds to me like a perfectly valid war target.

I guess war is no longer than patriotic and marvellous when you know they can blow you ass in St Petersburg right under the podcaster chairs of the "keyboard patriots division". Alas, it will take many more people's lives in both sides to get to the peace that should have never been broken.

So you supported IRA bombing in UK?

Did the IRA only hit legitimate targets during a war? Did they not, for example, set bomb a city centre with no particular strategic value or target?

The fact that a concealed bomb is used does not make it a terror attack. RF is at war with Ukraine, espionage, propaganda and production centres are legitimate targets. It would be not  be acceptable to bomb a supermarket, shell a Theatre or kill civilians, steal their property and mass-grave them.

I support the peaceful (read it again) right to self determination and, in general, a military defensive response against a military attack with the objective of reaching a durable peace. More so when a democracy or something that could become a true democracy is at war with a despot.

legendary
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Given how many high-profile individuals Putin's regime killed in elaborate ways (falling out of windows, poison, explosives, beating, disappearing, or just old plain shooting on the street) I'd say chances of "vladlen" falling victim of some MOD/FSB/PMC conflict are higher than Ukrainian conspiracy. Despite being an utter pro-war nutjob he was quite critical of the MOD in particular.

Which would be even better... I mean Ukrainians could do a few attacks like that, but Russian power structures fighting each other could inflict much more damage on themselves. Fingers crossed.
I also think more likely that it was done by Russian power structures, rather than by Ukrainians. As you said, he was nutjob, but he wasn't even first tier propagandist like Solovyov, Skabeeva or Simonyan. Somehow I doubt that Ukrainians would make such operation which wouldn't have much effect, other than satisfaction. It's a bit similar story like killing Darya Dugina, but then it was obvious that target was her father, not she.
IMO, it's more likely that someone in Russia decided to remove him. And it brings message to other propagandists that they should think about what they're talking.
Anyway, nobody can feel safe now in Russia, even if they're so far way from frontline.
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Given how many contradictions there are in US politics, the US will fail long before Russia. The proof of it is in the failed US plan to win through Ukraine.

Cool

Even though all the democrats will be dead soon because they got vaccinated? 
legendary
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Given how many contradictions there are in US politics, the US will fail long before Russia. The proof of it is in the failed US plan to win through Ukraine.

Cool
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I would not say exactly "karma". A known centre of propaganda and a gathering of people that, not being the army officially, but clearly part of the war effort in terms of spreading mis-information and pro-Z propaganda, and probably directly involved in cyberthreats... sounds to me like a perfectly valid war target.

I guess war is no longer than patriotic and marvellous when you know they can blow you ass in St Petersburg right under the podcaster chairs of the "keyboard patriots division". Alas, it will take many more people's lives in both sides to get to the peace that should have never been broken.

Given how many high-profile individuals Putin's regime killed in elaborate ways (falling out of windows, poison, explosives, beating, disappearing, or just old plain shooting on the street) I'd say chances of "vladlen" falling victim of some MOD/FSB/PMC conflict are higher than Ukrainian conspiracy. Despite being an utter pro-war nutjob he was quite critical of the MOD in particular.

Which would be even better... I mean Ukrainians could do a few attacks like that, but Russian power structures fighting each other could inflict much more damage on themselves. Fingers crossed.
legendary
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Meanwhile in St. Peterburg someone exploed infamous Russian propagandist Vladlen Tatarsky. And seems that it happened in one of Prigozhin's restaurants:
https://t.me/informnapalm/16492
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/04/02/war-blogger-vladlen-tatarsky-reportedly-killed-in-a-prigozhin-owned-cafe
In one of his video, recorded at Kremlin he said:
Quote
We'll defeat everyone, we'll kill everyone, we'll rob everyone we need to. Everything will be as we like it
https://t.me/kolezev/13282
It seems that karma finally reached him. Other Russian propagandists won't sleep well tonight.

I would not say exactly "karma". A known centre of propaganda and a gathering of people that, not being the army officially, but clearly part of the war effort in terms of spreading mis-information and pro-Z propaganda, and probably directly involved in cyberthreats... sounds to me like a perfectly valid war target.

I guess war is no longer than patriotic and marvellous when you know they can blow you ass in St Petersburg right under the podcaster chairs of the "keyboard patriots division". Alas, it will take many more people's lives in both sides to get to the peace that should have never been broken.

So you supported IRA bombing in UK?

So you support Hitlers special military operation France?
sr. member
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Meanwhile in St. Peterburg someone exploed infamous Russian propagandist Vladlen Tatarsky. And seems that it happened in one of Prigozhin's restaurants:
https://t.me/informnapalm/16492
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/04/02/war-blogger-vladlen-tatarsky-reportedly-killed-in-a-prigozhin-owned-cafe
In one of his video, recorded at Kremlin he said:
Quote
We'll defeat everyone, we'll kill everyone, we'll rob everyone we need to. Everything will be as we like it
https://t.me/kolezev/13282
It seems that karma finally reached him. Other Russian propagandists won't sleep well tonight.

I would not say exactly "karma". A known centre of propaganda and a gathering of people that, not being the army officially, but clearly part of the war effort in terms of spreading mis-information and pro-Z propaganda, and probably directly involved in cyberthreats... sounds to me like a perfectly valid war target.

I guess war is no longer than patriotic and marvellous when you know they can blow you ass in St Petersburg right under the podcaster chairs of the "keyboard patriots division". Alas, it will take many more people's lives in both sides to get to the peace that should have never been broken.

So you supported IRA bombing in UK?
legendary
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Do not die for Putin
Meanwhile in St. Peterburg someone exploed infamous Russian propagandist Vladlen Tatarsky. And seems that it happened in one of Prigozhin's restaurants:
https://t.me/informnapalm/16492
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/04/02/war-blogger-vladlen-tatarsky-reportedly-killed-in-a-prigozhin-owned-cafe
In one of his video, recorded at Kremlin he said:
Quote
We'll defeat everyone, we'll kill everyone, we'll rob everyone we need to. Everything will be as we like it
https://t.me/kolezev/13282
It seems that karma finally reached him. Other Russian propagandists won't sleep well tonight.

I would not say exactly "karma". A known centre of propaganda and a gathering of people that, not being the army officially, but clearly part of the war effort in terms of spreading mis-information and pro-Z propaganda, and probably directly involved in cyberthreats... sounds to me like a perfectly valid war target.

I guess war is no longer than patriotic and marvellous when you know they can blow you ass in St Petersburg right under the podcaster chairs of the "keyboard patriots division". Alas, it will take many more people's lives in both sides to get to the peace that should have never been broken.
legendary
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Slava Ukraini!
Meanwhile in St. Peterburg someone exploed infamous Russian propagandist Vladlen Tatarsky. And seems that it happened in one of Prigozhin's restaurants:
https://t.me/informnapalm/16492
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/04/02/war-blogger-vladlen-tatarsky-reportedly-killed-in-a-prigozhin-owned-cafe
In one of his video, recorded at Kremlin he said:
Quote
We'll defeat everyone, we'll kill everyone, we'll rob everyone we need to. Everything will be as we like it
https://t.me/kolezev/13282
It seems that karma finally reached him. Other Russian propagandists won't sleep well tonight.
legendary
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What does the Finnish perspective have to do with the Russian invasion of Ukraine? I am old-fashioned in forum discussions and I try to stick to the topic of the conversation indicated in the title, I also advise you not to produce offtopic here.

Update. Nevertheless, I will tell you what I think about the Finnish question. The year of the special operation in Ukraine clearly showed that NATO suffers from impotence and does not have the potential to resolve the conflict by force in the confrontation with anyone more serious than the partisans from the banana republic. NATO is overgrown with fat, soaked through with the ideas of transhumanism and neo-colonial guilt complexes. Even AUKUS is much more promising and combat-ready. Do you want to talk about it? Choose a more suitable topic and I am at your service.
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Off topic? Oh critizing your sources by saying that *insert any country* has pro russian news sites that have their own small following. How convenient that it's off topic to you. Like posting fake news from fringe Georgian news sites isn't that?

You are probably right, the Russians fired six uninterceptable hypersonic missiles at a non-existent bunker. What a ridiculous and stupid show of force. Grin
And just by inserting word NATO in your fake news doesn't make it linked to NATO.
But i guess it's all natos and nazis in your book. No proof needed. So in your case you are either to being lied to or you are lying yourself, i would go for latter as you are playing for Putin here.

Same old arguments, same lame excuses, but it matters little. Finland was not in NATO, now they are. Another of the great triumphs of Putin includes enhancing the NATO border with the RF even more, thus making the world a little less safe once again. I guess he cares little as he is nearly 70 and may loose power far before that is a problem.

Bottom line, aggression is matched with unity, pretty much the opposite Putin expected.
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What does the Finnish perspective have to do with the Russian invasion of Ukraine? I am old-fashioned in forum discussions and I try to stick to the topic of the conversation indicated in the title, I also advise you not to produce offtopic here.

Update. Nevertheless, I will tell you what I think about the Finnish question. The year of the special operation in Ukraine clearly showed that NATO suffers from impotence and does not have the potential to resolve the conflict by force in the confrontation with anyone more serious than the partisans from the banana republic. NATO is overgrown with fat, soaked through with the ideas of transhumanism and neo-colonial guilt complexes. Even AUKUS is much more promising and combat-ready. Do you want to talk about it? Choose a more suitable topic and I am at your service.
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Off topic? Oh critizing your sources by saying that *insert any country* has pro russian news sites that have their own small following. How convenient that it's off topic to you. Like posting fake news from fringe Georgian news sites isn't that?

You are probably right, the Russians fired six uninterceptable hypersonic missiles at a non-existent bunker. What a ridiculous and stupid show of force. Grin
And just by inserting word NATO in your fake news doesn't make it linked to NATO.
But i guess it's all natos and nazis in your book. No proof needed. So in your case you are either to being lied to or you are lying yourself, i would go for latter as you are playing for Putin here.
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