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So its normal in Ukraine to get detained if you mention Russia, or wear t-shirt like that?
If he would be Russian instead American, would he just "disappear"?
Yeah, it's completely normal to get detained Russian flag and making provocations. It's not first time when you post this shit. As I already said, war didn't started on 24th of February. It started 8 years ago when Russia occupied Crimea and invaded Donbas. So, it's not surprising that someone Russian flag isn't accepted positively.
BTW, he is actually Russian and he didn't just ''disappear'' Smiley
And how about Russia. Now they are so afraid of Ukrainian flag that now they're repainting buildings, fences or benches if it have blue-yellow colour.

Wonder what would happen if an American with a Ukrainian T-Shirt started running his mouth like that guy did in Moscow and then tried to run after the police started to question him...

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May I see the video of the public sodomy? I have just seen one with an old lady kicking the wrapped dude, but not anything like what you mention.

I don't have all day to seek vids for you to get your rocks off, but here's a couple showing, 'how they do'.  They being a swath of Ukrainian society apparently.

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/kUmwkUWdmIe7/

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/UbkKFEnIVq1w/

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/JMVapFcdfVrK/

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/K2F9ctbPVHi7/

Maybe these peeps were looters, maybe not, but one way or another it's not likely to be very palatable to most Western audiences.  Thus necessitating some preemptive psychological work by those who specialize in such operations.

Honestly, I don't really mind this type of 'justice' when it is 'legitimate'.  Say, the person really is a looter.  Getting caught speaking Russian isn't grounds in my mind for such treatment, and my sense is that my opinion is not shared by certain segments of Ukrainian society.  Especially not the ones sporting Nazi tattoos even if they welcome Hebrew...oddly enough...

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So its normal in Ukraine to get detained if you mention Russia, or wear t-shirt like that?
If he would be Russian instead American, would he just "disappear"?
Yeah, it's completely normal to get detained Russian flag and making provocations. It's not first time when you post this shit. As I already said, war didn't started on 24th of February. It started 8 years ago when Russia occupied Crimea and invaded Donbas. So, it's not surprising that someone Russian flag isn't accepted positively.
BTW, he is actually Russian and he didn't just ''disappear'' Smiley
And how about Russia. Now they are so afraid of Ukrainian flag that now they're repainting buildings, fences or benches if it have blue-yellow colour.
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 But I take good note: Kherson, in your view, is Ukrainian.


Contrary to your view, where its Russian?

You have not read carefully. In my view it is an RF occupied territory belonging to Ukraine. The media is a collaborator of the RF, either voluntarily or by force.

I hope the OP does not get 15 years for saying that it is Ukrainian.

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What i need to expalin? A guy wore a t-shirt with russian symbols in Ukraine so he was detained. What does this video has to do with my post you replied to? Are you mad?


So its normal in Ukraine to get detained if you mention Russia, or wear t-shirt like that?
If he would be Russian instead American, would he just "disappear"?

Yes Branko.  You get detained for mentioning Russia or simply wearing a Russian T Shirt in Ukrain. That's exactly what happened. Roll Eyes



May I see the video of the public sodomy? I have just seen one with an old lady kicking the wrapped dude, but not anything like what you mention.
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What i need to expalin? A guy wore a t-shirt with russian symbols in Ukraine so he was detained. What does this video has to do with my post you replied to? Are you mad?


So its normal in Ukraine to get detained if you mention Russia, or wear t-shirt like that?
If he would be Russian instead American, would he just "disappear"?

He is just an idiot. If he is an American citizen, he should be taken to the Polish border, and banned from ever entering Ukraine.
(He would get the same treatment in Poland. Probably would get his ass kicked before police can get to him.)

If he is a Russian citizen he should be detained and investigated as a potential threat to national security.

The funniest bit was when he (the white guy) accused other white guys of being... wait for it... a racist, ROFL.

What a tool?

PS. I would pass his information to the FBI to check him and his circle for potential links to Russian sleeper cells in the US/West.


I mean there is nothing to investigate, hes literally an orphan who was born in Russia was adopted and moved to the USA. If someone filed a report it would be dope (just for lulz of course). I bet hed like the Tver oblast where he from originally.

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What i need to expalin? A guy wore a t-shirt with russian symbols in Ukraine so he was detained. What does this video has to do with my post you replied to? Are you mad?


So its normal in Ukraine to get detained if you mention Russia, or wear t-shirt like that?
If he would be Russian instead American, would he just "disappear"?

Yes Branko.  You get detained for mentioning Russia or simply wearing a Russian T Shirt in Ukrain. That's exactly what happened. Roll Eyes

The vid struck me as staged psy-op bullshit when I saw it some weeks ago.  It being peddled on Jewtube lends even more strength to the hypothesis.

Irregardless of sides, the guy wearing the tee richly deserved to get his ass kicked by either the cops or bystanders (again, if it wasn't some fake-n-gay staged show.)
My guess was that the vid was made to counter the hundreds of vids of Ukranians taping people to light posts and publicly sodomizing them.  That is, trying to make the Ukrainian 'police' look like weak but good guys who respect human rights and dignities.

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What i need to expalin? A guy wore a t-shirt with russian symbols in Ukraine so he was detained. What does this video has to do with my post you replied to? Are you mad?


So its normal in Ukraine to get detained if you mention Russia, or wear t-shirt like that?
If he would be Russian instead American, would he just "disappear"?

He is just an idiot. If he is an American citizen, he should be taken to the Polish border, and banned from ever entering Ukraine.
(He would get the same treatment in Poland. Probably would get his ass kicked before police can get to him.)

If he is a Russian citizen he should be detained and investigated as a potential threat to national security.

The funniest bit was when he (the white guy) accused other white guys of being... wait for it... a racist, ROFL.

What a tool?

PS. I would pass his information to the FBI to check him and his circle for potential links to Russian sleeper cells in the US/West.
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Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]


But the much larger invasion was the US into the Ukraine to set up puppet Nazi governments for the Ukraine over the last decade or longer, all so they could use Ukraine for at least 46 Wuhan-style labs, to produce germ and virus warfare weapons that could be used against anybody in the world.



Cool

I thought you didn't believe in germs or viruses.


What i need to expalin? A guy wore a t-shirt with russian symbols in Ukraine so he was detained. What does this video has to do with my post you replied to? Are you mad?


So its normal in Ukraine to get detained if you mention Russia, or wear t-shirt like that?
If he would be Russian instead American, would he just "disappear"?

Yes Branko.  You get detained for mentioning Russia or simply wearing a Russian T Shirt in Ukrain. That's exactly what happened. Roll Eyes
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What i need to expalin? A guy wore a t-shirt with russian symbols in Ukraine so he was detained. What does this video has to do with my post you replied to? Are you mad?


So its normal in Ukraine to get detained if you mention Russia, or wear t-shirt like that?
If he would be Russian instead American, would he just "disappear"?
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What i need to expalin? A guy wore a t-shirt with russian symbols in Ukraine so he was detained. What does this video has to do with my post you replied to? Are you mad?
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Here's the thing though. Many things in this invasion point to a systematic attempt to destroy and/or oppress Ukrainians as a nation - from Putin's war declaration speech denying even the existence of such nation, to the entire narrative of "denazification", which basically defines every Ukrainian as a nazi.

Yes, fully agree! In russian worldview "denazification == deukrainization" or "russification". If you don't want to speak in russian, if you do not want to share russian narratives and cultural "memes" (from Galeev - meme in culture == gene in biology) then you're 100 % nazi.

And "normal ukrainian" is russificated ukrainian (in terms of language and culture)

Please explain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1EqK4suenY


American idiot intentionally pisses a bunch of people off in Ukraine, on Ukrainian independence day, rambling about Russia, when the cops question him he intentionally tries to piss them off too, then he tries to run while being questioned, so they chase him and arrest him.

Video is uploaded with caption "American guy detained for wearing Russian flag t-shirt in Odessa, Ukraine" and millions of idiot Putin/Trump fanboys eat it up like Beef Stroganoff.
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Here's the thing though. Many things in this invasion point to a systematic attempt to destroy and/or oppress Ukrainians as a nation - from Putin's war declaration speech denying even the existence of such nation, to the entire narrative of "denazification", which basically defines every Ukrainian as a nazi.

Yes, fully agree! In russian worldview "denazification == deukrainization" or "russification". If you don't want to speak in russian, if you do not want to share russian narratives and cultural "memes" (from Galeev - meme in culture == gene in biology) then you're 100 % nazi.

And "normal ukrainian" is russificated ukrainian (in terms of language and culture)

Well they can't really call it Putins Final Solution to the Ukraine Question, look how it ended for the last guy that tried that phrased his attempt to exterminate a culture.
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Since you are trying to make a point here with "Germany", let me tell you a few details.  Cheesy
[...] Germany has become far too dependant from Russian Oil and especially Gas!
Germany can replace Russian Gas but Putin has lost a big market, where he can sell his Gas - probably forever or at least as long as his corrupt circle is in power.
Russia will take the most damage long-term as Germany and Europe are slowly replacing Russian Oil and Gas.
Russia will lose Europe / Germany as a place, where he can sell his fossil fuels.
Germany has a big industry for cars, for steel and for chemical products (like BASF). Very energy intensive production.
These industries will not be any longer supplied by Russian fossil fuels but from fossil fuels from elsewhere.
Very bad for Putin but he won't tell you.  Wink
Putin will never tell you when he has made a mistake because he would be so busy.
 Cheesy
And he won't tell you, that it was his plan all along to control Europe's Gas supply!
So let's make it similar to an investment: diversify!
Don't buy your whole Gas supply from ONE (corrupt) country.  Wink
So, please! When you mention Germany next time, please do proper research.
Putin TV is not a credible source.  Cheesy Cheesy

The mere fact of living in a country doesn't make its resident a priori a recognized expert in the foreign economy and politics of this state.
Are you sure that you yourself didn't become an object of "Scholz TV" propaganda, regarding your expectations, which do not at all coincide with the Germany possibilities?
Well, link a credible German source where your position is explained. There's no credible source because my description is what's happening in Germany currently.
Putin tried to get a monopoly for fossil fuels in Germany to have power over Germany. Unfortunately, some German politicains didn't see what was coming (Putin invading Ukraine and Putin using his monopoly on gas against Germany).
And Lafontaine isn't a credible source, he's a joke.  Cheesy
At least regarding Ukraine vs. Russia.

If you are referring to my general position, that I'm against Putin's war because it's inacceptable to invade Ukraine and that Putin is commiting war crimes.
Calling reports from various OSINT reporters, reports from various Ukrainian journalists and even various reports from Ukrainians on this forum "Scholz TV" is a little bit far-fetched, isn't it?  Cheesy Cheesy



The Bild experts do not share your bravado about the refusal of Russian gas. About replacing Russian gas - I don’t know what you are counting on, but German residents may soon start using wood instead of gas, like a hundred years ago.
LOL  Cheesy
It's funny when a Putin apologist tries to quote a German source, they are always quoting the least credible outlets in Germany.  Cheesy Cheesy
BILD Zeitung is based on rage, hate and fear. (or fear, uncertainty and doubt (FUD)).
The only purpose of BILD is to sell their newspaper. And yes, what's selling better than "monster winter incoming, no gas for heating, we are all gonna die"  Cheesy
I'm not saying that all reports from BILD are bad. They have some good reporters on the front in Ukraine.  
Regarding possible gas shortages it is true, that it won't be easy to get independant from Russian gas, but it's important to achieve it.
And Putin will be totally pissed, when it's done and he can write as much propaganda pieces as he wants.
Russia will lose Europe as a purchaser for his gas long-term.



As for Lavrov's words, you may be surprised, but he still claims that Russia didn't invade Ukraine.
Sure, there's some sort of... uummmm... "Special Operation" ongoing in Ukraine?  Roll Eyes
Right?  Cheesy
Or maybe he doesn't want to end in prison when he's calling out, what's happening there: Russia INVADED Ukraine and Russia started a WAR.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/08/world/europe/russia-aleksei-gorinov-prison.html



You also mentioned ARD and ZDF TV channels, which "often presenting the Russian position". Maybe you are confusing the expression of a view with a regular quotation (such as "he said", "she claimed", etc.)? Well, in general, this is a regular thing in journalism, or do you want a total information boycott to operate in Germany without listening to the opinion of the other side?
I've never said, that there should be a "total information boycott to operate in Germany". There should be statements from both sides and people can get information, what's happening there. But there have been cases, when people like Lavrow said 100% bullshit and these statements were not addressed.
Well, you mentioned in your comment, that Lavrow denied that Russia invaded Ukraine.
We all know what is really true. Some viewers (like Lafontaine) might believe Lavrow, that there's actually not a Russian invasion (or whatever bullshit the Russian side has drafted out of thin air).
There was even a Putin apologist on ZDF spreading for 2 hours almost all Kremlin talking points.

So, you can't call it a "total information boycott in Germany".  Cheesy

But there's currently "total information boycott" operating in Russia, for example when people are calling the "special operation" a "war".  Wink


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Here's the thing though. Many things in this invasion point to a systematic attempt to destroy and/or oppress Ukrainians as a nation - from Putin's war declaration speech denying even the existence of such nation, to the entire narrative of "denazification", which basically defines every Ukrainian as a nazi.

Yes, fully agree! In russian worldview "denazification == deukrainization" or "russification". If you don't want to speak in russian, if you do not want to share russian narratives and cultural "memes" (from Galeev - meme in culture == gene in biology) then you're 100 % nazi.

And "normal ukrainian" is russificated ukrainian (in terms of language and culture)

Please explain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1EqK4suenY
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Here's the thing though. Many things in this invasion point to a systematic attempt to destroy and/or oppress Ukrainians as a nation - from Putin's war declaration speech denying even the existence of such nation, to the entire narrative of "denazification", which basically defines every Ukrainian as a nazi.

Yes, fully agree! In russian worldview "denazification == deukrainization" or "russification". If you don't want to speak in russian, if you do not want to share russian narratives and cultural "memes" (from Galeev - meme in culture == gene in biology) then you're 100 % nazi.

And "normal ukrainian" is russificated ukrainian (in terms of language and culture)
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Do the Western media talk about the shelling of cities by Ukrainian troops on civilians with the help of Western artillery, for example, which was yesterday in Donetsk?

Come on, it's not even proper whataboutism, if you really think that killing civilians could be justified by the other side doing the same. Donetsk is Ukraine. If you wanted to present an "equivalent" example of evil Ukrainians invading and bombing Russia the same way Putin's army invaded and bombed Ukraine, you gotta find some story about a Ukrainian missile hitting a supermarket in Pskov.

Here's the thing though. Many things in this invasion point to a systematic attempt to destroy and/or oppress Ukrainians as a nation - from Putin's war declaration speech denying even the existence of such nation, to the entire narrative of "denazification", which basically defines every Ukrainian as a nazi.

There is no "equivalent" systematic attempt from Ukraine to destroy Russians as a nation. At most they want Russian forces to leave Ukrainian territory. Twist it all you want but the aggressor is Russia.  No "what about" here.
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I am still waiting for the moment when you make a clear cut argument about Ukrainians intentionally attacking civilians on Russian territory. For now, the Ukrainians defend with whatever they have to keep alive agreements that were once signed with Russia.

Even this would not be bad because of obvious reason: This is not Ukraine who started this war. So, if some amount of civilians will die during another strike on armed storages near Belgorod, this will be not a "war crime". This is aggressor who will be guilty in these deaths too.

No aggression - no russian civ loses. Period.

I said "intentionally" as a strategy to break the enemies' soul and moral. Putin kills civilians to break Ukrainian unity. The worst an aggressor can do. Sad

True!
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I am still waiting for the moment when you make a clear cut argument about Ukrainians intentionally attacking civilians on Russian territory. For now, the Ukrainians defend with whatever they have to keep alive agreements that were once signed with Russia.

Even this would not be bad because of obvious reason: This is not Ukraine who started this war. So, if some amount of civilians will die during another strike on armed storages near Belgorod, this will be not a "war crime". This is aggressor who will be guilty in these deaths too.

No aggression - no russian civ loses. Period.
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But #totallynotgenocide, right?

The competence of the International Criminal Court (ICC) includes the prosecution of persons guilty of genocide. If there are facts, they should be presented there and carefully examined. Because in the same way you can be told that Ukrainian troops are purposefully killing pro-Russian civilians.

Do the Western media talk about the shelling of cities by Ukrainian troops on civilians with the help of Western artillery, for example, which was yesterday in Donetsk?
I ask because usually such news is not shown in major European and American information resources. This in no way justifies any victims, but independent journalists should try to objectively cover events from different sides of the conflict.
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1. No need to lie and pass off Russian propaganda as reality
2. The Ukrainian army, ON ITS TERRITORY, PROTECTS ITS COUNTRY FROM THE AGGRESSOR.
3. The Armed Forces of Ukraine fired and fired only at warehouses and headquarters.
4. Russian terrorists often hide in residential areas - this is "Russian heroism". Unfortunately, during the liberation of the occupied territories, civilians may also suffer. But we didn't start this war. Responsibility for the occupants.

Methods and technologies for the destruction of the aggressor have no restrictions, after they sadistically shot Mariupol, with rockets from the center of Vinnitsa, today Nikolaev (2 universities). The invaders will be destroyed by all available means, in any location where they are found.


When you are bombarding your own internationally acknowledged territory, you obviously are not doing it for fun. Most likely, you get attacked by braindead MFs that force you to go the worst: blow up the place you love to get it back and have the possibility to rebuild it.

Holy *** Christ, the Russian propaganda is driving me nuts.

But #totallynotgenocide, right?

The competence of the International Criminal Court (ICC) includes the prosecution of persons guilty of genocide. If there are facts, they should be presented there and carefully examined. Because in the same way you can be told that Ukrainian troops are purposefully killing pro-Russian civilians.

Do the Western media talk about the shelling of cities by Ukrainian troops on civilians with the help of Western artillery, for example, which was yesterday in Donetsk?
I ask because usually such news is not shown in major European and American information resources. This in no way justifies any victims, but independent journalists should try to objectively cover events from different sides of the conflict.

I am still waiting for the moment when you make a clear cut argument about Ukrainians intentionally attacking civilians on Russian territory. For now, the Ukrainians defend with whatever they have to keep alive agreements that were once signed with Russia.
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 But I take good note: Kherson, in your view, is Ukrainian.


Contrary to your view, where its Russian?
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