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Blah, blah, blah. Even Zelensky has said that Ukraine needs more help from the US if it wants to win. But the US people are getting fed up with a war that is spending all their money so that they don't have enough to live on at home. Biden will fail. And so will Europe under Russia's sanctions against them.




Russian sock puppet, you quacks like putler as you did this before in the threads relevant to COVID.

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Jake Sullivan with some news: Says US has intelligence that Iran is preparing to provide Russia with UAVs to use in Ukraine and is preparing to train the Russians how to use them.

I think now we can finally close the topic of "the second army of the world" and "super power" and other rubbish. Ask for drones from a country that has been under sanctions for 20 years I can't believe it's for real.
Drone from Iran, MRE from China, armored vehicle from Belarus. USA beware!
This only speaks of the low effectiveness of US foreign policy in the field of sanctions. Even after 20 years of active containment, Iran is in the world top 20 in terms of GDP, and in western Asia, the economy is second only to Turkey (which is now going through hard times due to hyperinflation). Only a fool can disdain the direct heir of the great Persia.

Will it actually work? Let's hope we don't have to find out by experience. Russia's new "tsunami" sub, the Belgorod.


Russian Navy Takes Delivery of First "Nuclear Tsunami" Submarine



Yesterday, July 8, 2022, the Russian Navy took delivery of the first submarine capable of firing the "Poseidon" nuclear tsunami drone torpedo.  No other submarine on earth has such capability and there is no defense at all against its "Poseidon" drone nuclear torpedo.

The Russian Navy submarine armed with a strategic nuclear torpedo the size of a school bus was delivered to the Kremlin this week, according to an announcement from the shipyard.

Project 09852 Belgorod is based on a Russian Oscar-class guided-cruise missile submarine that has been altered to accommodate six Poseidon nuclear torpedoes that could each be armed with a warhead of up to 100 megatons.

The submarine was delivered to the Russian Navy in a ceremony in at the Northern Fleet's headquarters in Severodvinsk on Friday.

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This article may give the false impression that before the launch of the Tsunami submarine, the hundred-megaton "continent killer" Poseidon was gathering dust in a warehouse. Poseidon is an autonomous drone with its own nuclear reactor, it has no significant time limits between the moment of launch and the moment of operation. What if I told you that several Poseidons have already been launched, but have not yet worked? Try to learn to live with it, we live in a very interesting time when much more incredible things are possible.
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Jake Sullivan with some news: Says US has intelligence that Iran is preparing to provide Russia with UAVs to use in Ukraine and is preparing to train the Russians how to use them.

I think now we can finally close the topic of "the second army of the world" and "super power" and other rubbish. Ask for drones from a country that has been under sanctions for 20 years I can't believe it's for real.
Drone from Iran, MRE from China, armored vehicle from Belarus. USA beware!

RF is clearing out any possible doubt of how exaggerated were the claims about capabilities, production, efficiency, training and, in general, to their ability to wage a modern war. It is true that the (remaining) chief psychos have learnt the lesson themselves and are somehow managing to coordinate the resources they have - as long as they remain close to their bases in the RF.

But it is also true that the RF status as a superpower is not realistic. The nuclear arsenal is a defensive deterrent, but it does nor provide offensive advantages in a conventional war. The huge arsenal of outdated gunnery provides an advantage, but it requires soldiers willing to risk their lives at a moment in which there is no real threat to the RF.

In respect to the advanced capabilities in rocketry, again, they confer a deterrent in large scale wars, but the cost and quantities involved in waging a conventional war using the latest and most expensive "toys" require endless resources, production capabilities and strong supply chains of critical components.

Overall, I would say that the RF maintains the capability of causing destruction and killing... for now. There are plausible scenarios of oil prices, economical downturns and social unrest that end very badly for Adolf Putin and his gangsters.



Will it actually work? Let's hope we don't have to find out by experience. Russia's new "tsunami" sub, the Belgorod.


Russian Navy Takes Delivery of First "Nuclear Tsunami" Submarine



Yesterday, July 8, 2022, the Russian Navy took delivery of the first submarine capable of firing the "Poseidon" nuclear tsunami drone torpedo.  No other submarine on earth has such capability and there is no defense at all against its "Poseidon" drone nuclear torpedo.

The Russian Navy submarine armed with a strategic nuclear torpedo the size of a school bus was delivered to the Kremlin this week, according to an announcement from the shipyard.

Project 09852 Belgorod is based on a Russian Oscar-class guided-cruise missile submarine that has been altered to accommodate six Poseidon nuclear torpedoes that could each be armed with a warhead of up to 100 megatons.

The submarine was delivered to the Russian Navy in a ceremony in at the Northern Fleet's headquarters in Severodvinsk on Friday.

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About the Russian language in Ukraine.

What if I showed you a video of a man explaining the opposite of whatever this guy said.
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Jake Sullivan with some news: Says US has intelligence that Iran is preparing to provide Russia with UAVs to use in Ukraine and is preparing to train the Russians how to use them.

I think now we can finally close the topic of "the second army of the world" and "super power" and other rubbish. Ask for drones from a country that has been under sanctions for 20 years I can't believe it's for real.
Drone from Iran, MRE from China, armored vehicle from Belarus. USA beware!

RF is clearing out any possible doubt of how exaggerated were the claims about capabilities, production, efficiency, training and, in general, to their ability to wage a modern war. It is true that the (remaining) chief psychos have learnt the lesson themselves and are somehow managing to coordinate the resources they have - as long as they remain close to their bases in the RF.

But it is also true that the RF status as a superpower is not realistic. The nuclear arsenal is a defensive deterrent, but it does nor provide offensive advantages in a conventional war. The huge arsenal of outdated gunnery provides an advantage, but it requires soldiers willing to risk their lives at a moment in which there is no real threat to the RF.

In respect to the advanced capabilities in rocketry, again, they confer a deterrent in large scale wars, but the cost and quantities involved in waging a conventional war using the latest and most expensive "toys" require endless resources, production capabilities and strong supply chains of critical components.

Overall, I would say that the RF maintains the capability of causing destruction and killing... for now. There are plausible scenarios of oil prices, economical downturns and social unrest that end very badly for Adolf Putin and his gangsters.
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Prepare for a 300km buffer zone around any parts of former Ukraine Putin decides to not negotiate back after Zelenski exits the stage?
If it were me, I'd be starting to train Syrian, Hezbollah, and Yemeni teams on use of the Iskandar system.
In other news:  https://www.bitchute.com/video/e7kxO6oUR7Le/

It is more like that from the borders of Ukraine, deep into the rashist understate, there will be a 300 km non-residential zone Smiley

And about terrorists on a global scale - you reminded me well - after all, these are "ugly children of the USSR / Russia." And I am more than sure that, realizing that soon a noose will be tightened on the thin, flabby neck of the pitiful Fuhrer of the Rashists, he will certainly try to spoil the whole world. Here's the truth, as the latest facts show - most likely the terrorists will abandon the Iskanders, because these missiles suddenly became "boomerangs" - after the start they often fall near the launch site ... And the terrorists of their Hezzballs and others - they are not idiots, this is not the Russian army, they feel sorry for themselves and will not take risks Smiley


Blah, blah, blah. Even Zelensky has said that Ukraine needs more help from the US if it wants to win. But the US people are getting fed up with a war that is spending all their money so that they don't have enough to live on at home. Biden will fail. And so will Europe under Russia's sanctions against them.


Europe moves closer to the brink of total collapse after Russia’s Putin bans all exports to ‘unfriendly countries’



Russian President Vladimir Putin is proving to be a masterful geopolitical player with ever move he implements to counter tired, predictable and toothless sanction efforts imposed on him by corrupt and morally bankrupt Western countries.

For more than a decade, Putin allowed Europe to become heavily dependent on food, energy and other vital commodities supplied by Russia, knowing that with each passing year he would eventually be in a position to withstand any punishing actions against him if not dictate terms outright once he began to reconstitute the former USSR by force, which has long been a vision of his.

When he began positioning more than 100,000 men and battalions of heavy military equipment around Ukraine last fall in anticipation of an invasion — which happened in late February — even then the Europeans continued to do business with Putin, if for no other reason than by that time, they had little choice.

Germany, for instance, was not only reliant on Russia for natural gas, the country was building a gas pipeline with Russia even after then-President Donald Trump warned Berlin not to do so and after he reminded the German government, then led by Chancellor Angela Merkel, that it made no sense to build up NATO as a bulwark against Russia only to provide Moscow with tens of billions of dollars in revenue and put Putin in the driver’s seat during any future emergency.

Trump, of course, proved to be right: After Putin invaded, Russia hesitated at first to cut off its gas supply from Russia, at least until the country could find new sources, while at the same time keeping its other trade lanes open with Moscow that were still permitted even under a newly imposed sanctions regime.

Now, even those carve-outs are collapsing and are putting the Europeans in the position of not being able to purchase enough food to feed the continent, per The Consul, which noted that Putin has signed a decree declaring that Russia would no longer sell vital raw materials to countries that it considered ‘unfriendly.'”

The report adds:

These include most of the nations of the West. This step is a complete disaster for the European Union. It is basically signing a death warrant for all European economies. It is feared that European economies might not survive this draconian action. A year from now, the standard of living of all Europeans will be substantially lower than what it is today. It is the right time now for all Europeans to consider what is about to come and how will their lives be affected by this decree. If you are a middle-class resident of European Union, then a year from now you are mostly likely to become very poor and probably unemployed.


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Prepare for a 300km buffer zone around any parts of former Ukraine Putin decides to not negotiate back after Zelenski exits the stage?
If it were me, I'd be starting to train Syrian, Hezbollah, and Yemeni teams on use of the Iskandar system.
In other news:  https://www.bitchute.com/video/e7kxO6oUR7Le/

It is more like that from the borders of Ukraine, deep into the rashist understate, there will be a 300 km non-residential zone Smiley

And about terrorists on a global scale - you reminded me well - after all, these are "ugly children of the USSR / Russia." And I am more than sure that, realizing that soon a noose will be tightened on the thin, flabby neck of the pitiful Fuhrer of the Rashists, he will certainly try to spoil the whole world. Here's the truth, as the latest facts show - most likely the terrorists will abandon the Iskanders, because these missiles suddenly became "boomerangs" - after the start they often fall near the launch site ... And the terrorists of their Hezzballs and others - they are not idiots, this is not the Russian army, they feel sorry for themselves and will not take risks Smiley
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Who the fuck does he think he's there to defend, the store didn't serve him in Russian.

We get back to that when you will be served in russian in chechnya, tyva or other shithole of your homeland where people never spoke russian since birth.
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Jake Sullivan with some news: Says US has intelligence that Iran is preparing to provide Russia with UAVs to use in Ukraine and is preparing to train the Russians how to use them.

I think now we can finally close the topic of "the second army of the world" and "super power" and other rubbish. Ask for drones from a country that has been under sanctions for 20 years I can't believe it's for real.
Drone from Iran, MRE from China, armored vehicle from Belarus. USA beware!
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The destroyed houses will be rebuilt, new people will be born and grow up to replace the dead, and they will speak their native language fluently (it doesn’t matter if it’s Ukrainian or Russian). Ukraine believed in itself too much, having decided to forbid the Russian-speaking residents of Donbass to speak Russian, and Ukraine will be punished for this. It does not matter how many houses will have to be destroyed and how many more people will have to be killed.
Wow, that's strong statement. You're real nazi and you just proved it with your words. Who cares about people lifes, who cares about buildings? That's russian thinking where life of people is worth nothing. Russia is making genocide in Eastern Ukraine, killing both Ukrainian and Russian speaking people. This is how they "protect" Russian speaking population of Donbas.
You should have known better the definition of Nazism in order to throw such unfounded and groundless accusations against me. Perhaps I do not have enough emotional involvement in the Russian-Ukrainian conflict, due to the great geographical distance from the place of the main development of events. Perhaps in my personal hierarchy of life values, the ideals of humanism and pacifism are not in the most honorable place. But I did not claim that Russians are better than Ukrainians, or Americans, or Germans, or representatives of any other nationalities, if only because I do not like false generalizations. Think about it at your leisure before you sit in a puddle next time.

You're asking for denazification yourself.
Speak for yourself, I didn't ask you for anything.
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The destroyed houses will be rebuilt, new people will be born and grow up to replace the dead, and they will speak their native language fluently (it doesn’t matter if it’s Ukrainian or Russian). Ukraine believed in itself too much, having decided to forbid the Russian-speaking residents of Donbass to speak Russian, and Ukraine will be punished for this. It does not matter how many houses will have to be destroyed and how many more people will have to be killed.
Wow, that's strong statement. You're real nazi and you just proved it with your words. Who cares about people lifes, who cares about buildings? That's russian thinking where life of people is worth nothing. Russia is making genocide in Eastern Ukraine, killing both Ukrainian and Russian speaking people. This is how they "protect" Russian speaking population of Donbas.
You're asking for denazification yourself.
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About the Russian language in Ukraine.
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It’s feeling like my days are numbered and I’d like to say some things. About me. Former military. Afghanistan veteran. Combat experienced. Three days ago I was in a trench line listening to artillery. I got to thinking about the perspective of the enemy. Just a few hundred yards away are the Russians. Living through the same bullshit I am… I’ve seen dead bodies before. Dead Taliban. Dead Afghan civilians. But that culture was so far removed and different from ours that I couldn’t really identify with it. I saw some dead Russians lined up by the road and I was shocked. I thought, ‘These guys could be me.’
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 Citizens of Ukraine and the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics can obtain Russian citizenship under a simplified procedure

http://publicatio[Suspicious link removed]avo.gov.ru/Document/View/0001202207110002
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It does not matter how many houses will have to be destroyed and how many more people will have to be killed.

Thanks for spelling out the genocidal "essence". I think it may matter to Ukrainians how many of them Putin is trying to kill.
Anytime.

Take it out of context and pervert - it looks like your style, enjoy. Grin
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I'm sure you have already been informed this isn't true.  Why do you keep repeating it?

Here I put a video from Odessa, where a man was not served in Russian, do you want the link again?

Then the Russian names were changed in everyone's Ukrainian documents.
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Ukraine believed in itself too much, having decided to forbid the Russian-speaking residents of Donbass to speak Russian

I'm sure you have already been informed this isn't true.  Why do you keep repeating it?




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In April 2019, Ukraine’s parliament approved a language law making Ukrainian the mandatory language for public sector workers. The adoption of this law required citizens to know Ukrainian and obliged civil servants, soldiers, doctors and teachers to communicate in Ukrainian.

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In January 2022, a new provision of the law was introduced, under which print media outlets registered in Ukraine were required to publish in Ukrainian. This did not ban publications in other languages. Instead, the law required that all content also be published in Ukrainian.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jun/08/sergey-lavrov/russian-has-not-been-banned-ukraine-despite-repeat/
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It does not matter how many houses will have to be destroyed and how many more people will have to be killed.

Thanks for spelling out the genocidal "essence". I think it may matter to Ukrainians how many of them Putin is trying to kill.
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The Russians are saving the Donbass from Nazism

"Saved" Donbas (Severodonetsk):
There aren't many things Russians don't bargain for. You either pay full price, no matter how much it costs, or you can't afford it. Sovereignty and freedom from Nazism are on the list of such things, and Russia can afford them.


False argument from top to bottom. The RF was the aggressor, nobody was trying to change or impose anything to the RF. The Nazi argument is false, this war is about geopolitical control of the Gas & Oils corridors and an attempt to re-stablish a no longer existing "USSR" under Adolf Putin.

The RF at this point is becoming a full blown dictatorship. Intellectuals fly, media is silenced, people are prosecuted even if they have are just showing a white paper, main opposition leaders are incarcerated under the hardest conditions.


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Glad you're having fun too. Grin

You and your people are going to need a lot of sense of humour. Except the thousands of RF soldiers that have been sent to their deaths by your Chiefs Psychos and newly forced drafts in Don & Luh -  planting pots do not need humour.

The rest are going to have plenty of fun under the most severe crisis that the RF has ever experienced. The RF is 40 USD / barrel away from having a massive economic meltdown and there are signs of recession worldwide, so the demand will shrink.

Oh, now that you mention full price... I am afraid Adolf Putin has not informed you properly of the price tag.

Some people have already figured out what you are about to face. Oh and it is not only the poor leaving, just in case you are thinking along "we do not need them" or "those people do not matter"

https://www.businessinsider.com/rich-people-leaving-russia-millionaires-invasion-ukraine-war-2022-6?r=US&IR
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/13/more-than-15000-millionaires-expected-to-leave-russia-in-2022
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More than 15,000 millionaires expected to leave Russia in 2022
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15% of the country's ultrarich population — are expected to leave this year

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/5/23/many-leave-russia-as-ukraine-war-drags-on
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Criminal adventure’: Ukraine war fuels Russia’s brain drain
Nearly four million left Russia in the first three months of 2022, including IT specialists, journalists, researchers and analysts


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-18/russia-s-economy-slowed-down-more-than-expected-in-first-quarter

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GDP growth slipped to 3.5%, missing median forecast of 3.7%. Economy heads into deep recession amid sanctions over Ukraine

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Russian Economy Faces 10 Years of Recession Without Reforms – Sberbank CEO

Reforms, interesting. The CEO of RF's largest bank (surely unrelated to Putin of course) is saying that the country needs "reforms". What do you make of this?

a) The reforms will consist on less work, better pay, better employment and more social care and services.
b) The reforms will consist on shoving up RF's citizens assess the true cost of this unnecessary war.

You see... there is always a good reason to have a laugh.


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There aren't many things Russians don't bargain for. You either pay full price, no matter how much it costs, or you can't afford it. Sovereignty and freedom from Nazism are on the list of such things, and Russia can afford them.

If you destroy the thing you're "saving", you're not really saving it. And it's not a broken plate that you can "afford" to buy new.
This is just your opinion. To me, your authority on this is zero, because you are making a superficial judgment, consciously or not ignoring the essence of the issue. The destroyed houses will be rebuilt, new people will be born and grow up to replace the dead, and they will speak their native language fluently (it doesn’t matter if it’s Ukrainian or Russian). Ukraine believed in itself too much, having decided to forbid the Russian-speaking residents of Donbass to speak Russian, and Ukraine will be punished for this. It does not matter how many houses will have to be destroyed and how many more people will have to be killed.
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