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Ryan: I joined your group previous week. None of your picks went up so far. But that would be OK so far as I understand sometimes we need to wait 2-3 weeks for those picks to go up. BUT, on Twitter you posted that you made 491% on Californium. (https://twitter.com/Pumper_Ryan/status/592373572770856960) Maybe you made that profit but I'm pretty sure nobody else from the last week's group which received info 20.4 at cca 16.00 CET when the pump was already over. You advised to buy below 100K so I bought at 70K thinking it could be good price, then I bought at about 27K again thinking that I bought cheap. And the price now? It's literally dumped to ground (3700 SAT or so?). So I wonder when were you able to make that 491% profit because since 20.4. until now it kept declining quite sharply. As the DEV at CF is not active anymore, it's already clear that was just another "1 week" scam coin.

So I have feeling you advised us to buy CF at the moment you were selling. Here is proof:

1) At cca 16.45 last monday 20.4. you sent info about picks

http://i61.tinypic.com/2ps156p.jpg

2) But at that time the CF pump was already over and from that moment the price has kept declining until today. This is telling me that you bought CF before that pump (maybe 12-24 hours earlier) and sold before you actually sent email to your group. Please send us screenshot when you bought CF and when you sold.

http://i58.tinypic.com/ay1stc.jpg

Regarding all other picks from last week, all are doing like shit btw (start, fc2, xai, nlg)  I have lost on all of them so far, but I'm still giving it a little chance. If you don't pump them, maybe somebody else will pump one day in far future. If you say you pump the coins which you pick, why don't you pump them in the same week you pick them? What is the reason for waiting another 2-3 weeks, you wait for somebody else to pump them by chance, right? Or you just take 0.5 membership and basically do nothing else but market your strategies which work for you but not for the group.


I will appreciate if you could argue on my post. If you delete it, it will be clear signal for me that you are just another clasical crypto scammer.

This post is true for myself as well 2-3 weeks back, only there were no pump at all. Apparently you pay a weekly fee of .5BTC and invest at least 1BTC in the coins (so a total of 1.5BTC) but there is zero garuantee to actually earn anything that particular week. And the charts apparently don't actually show profit, only "movement", which could as well be very little sums. So that was $350 down the drain as far as I can tell.
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Just arbitraged the SHIT out of finex and btc-e for four figures in one day, taking total advantage right now  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Am i too late to join in the fun this week?

also ryan, can I pay you for a full month or a couple of months in a bundle?

thank you

looking forward to hearing back

you tell me you are just going to "predict" 200 pumps naturally? OH FUCKING PLEASE this is NOT natural! no way is this "natural" either you guys have inside information or you are working with outside whales because wtf??

actually bro ryan has the longest track record of doing this and he explains how in all of his posts


I made money on CLOAK, GSX, XSB, OPAL, ESC, SMBR, NKT, START

Anyone who sells something that ryan tells them to buy is an imbecile

If you’re the type of trader who bounces around, aimlessly, from coin to coin – then you’d find a much more suitable habitat at the roulette table, or the slot machine. Trading is a venture that requires strategy, this isn’t a game of musical chairs... there is a very specific method to playing this market for continuous profit and it has everything to do with ‘long-term trading.'

Soo so so true!!! Some people are so happy with small 100% wins that they don't even realize that we have been buying start since 3K
Start breaking 50K yesterday is a 1500% profit for the squad
yet another TEN-BAGGER!!
THAT IS THE POWER OF GOING LONG TERM

http://i.imgur.com/oxnB2Dm.jpg


Every one of those picks spat out more than TWO TIMES profit

Ryan is very smart and gives everyone subtle hints and clues on how to really make the BIG BUCKS, if you read his posts you would know. I personally never miss one of ryans posts because he always drops pieces of gold for smart people to pick up

for example here are quotes from ryan that he puts into his posts to hint on how to make BIG money, it applies to the above picks and profits aswell

Tip: Novices are so out of sync with the market, that their every move serves only to fatten the pockets of skilled players. From timing, to pattern exploitation – novices are so out of touch with the driving forces behind price movement. So they consistently fail. In order to achieve exponential success in this market, you have to realise that short-term thinking is a mind frame that was custom designed for losers. Expand your time horizons and begin to explore the long term rewards that this market has to offer. Once you come into alignment with the prevailing patterns found in every single altcoin on the market – profit will consistently flow into your hands, with very little effort. Call it manipulation, or whatever you will – but, whilst you are trading this market, you are wither trading with the prevailing pattern, or against it. Make your choice.


Short term trading is a fools sport, and I’ll tell you why.

Taking a short term view on price movement is nothing other than a futile attempt to force an opinion on the market – which will always be a losing proposition.
 
You see, in order for the flood gates to be forced open, allowing an endless stream of BTC to flow into your hands, it is necessary for you to understand that it is impossible to win when approaching the market with a short-term mindset.

If you were to spend just one hour analysing the charts, you will quickly realise that It is virtually impossible for a short-term trader to pull big money from the market on a consistent basis.

In a previous post, I demonstrated the differences between trading and gambling, pointing out that trading is a venture that requires calculation – whilst gambling is a venture requiring nothing other than misguided hope. The rationalization was that altcoin gamblers, actually believe that trading is gambling, and so they ‘act as if’ this is a fact.

Short-term trading is the gamblers thought process manifested into tangible action.

You see, a short-term trader is basically someone who spends the majority of their time betting on the ‘continuation’ of price moves that have already occurred.

Guys, Short-term trading is a fools sport.

Just by looking at the charts, you will very quickly realise that most rallies erupt over the space of several days at a time. Some moves take several weeks or even months before the market turns around.

The big money is being made by those who understand market psychology. By those who understand that price patterns and market cycles are the keys that unlock the floodgates to profit.

If you have been taking these non-advantageous short-term trades, I hope now you are aware why you have been accumulating loss after loss. It may be time to rethink your approach.

If you are lucky enough to trade with the group

READ EVERY POST that ryan makes because he TELLS YOU how to profit

LONG TERM trades is how we win and win all the time

I shouldn't say this, but it's obvious that ryan only posts weekly profits to throw outsiders off the scent, he knows that if he says CCN coin moved 50% this week outsider novices will think the move is done and will move their focus to another coin, while we bag 100% profits on CCN in the following weeks

but if you look at the charts i posted EVERYTHING is long-term




You missed the point... Balkhole showed that profits come "long-term" instead of how novices think they do (short-term)

I thought I made it clear Cheesy

here is the same thing in picture format lol

http://i57.tinypic.com/2e34w7b.jpg

Tip: Expand your time horizons and begin to explore the long term rewards that this market has to offer.

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On January 23rd, SPR fell into a quagmire of what seemed to be an endless pit of decline, and as a rule – the ‘majority’ of traders in this market believe that a decline in price is “irreversible,” which is interestingly what causes them to refer to coins like this as “dead,” whilst skilled traders refer to coins that are in this type of condition as “cheap” and therefore ripe for accumulation.

Starting on January 23rd, SPR declined from 69,960 Satoshi by 96% and settled at 2,507 Satoshi on March 12th.

As a personal rule, any coin that has attracted a large pool of market wide attention previously – and has declined in price by more than 90%, should be bought with no questions asked as it represents tremendous potential for clean cut, high percentage profit.

However, the majority opinion in the market on March 12th was – “SPR is officially dead!”

As it turns out, anybody who ignored the majority view and bought, made off with a truck load of profit. In fact, since March 12th the price of SPR has advanced from a low of 2,505 Satoshi to a sensationally high 18,500 Satoshi – which is a gargantuan 638% gain for those who went contrary to the opinions held by the ‘majority,’ who are the consistent losers in this market.

You see the traders who make the most money out of situations like this are those who have the mental strength and fortitude to stand firm against the tide of ‘majority held opinion.’ These skilled traders are able to disregard what everyone else is saying and instead think things through for themselves – and anyone who possesses the ability to think logically understands that: the best time to buy, is when the price of a coin is low… and when a coins price is low “the majority” will always advise against buying.


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It's funny how a profit or a loss can be broken down into a simple question of perspective like this

To idiots a decline = a coin is DEAD and is also a SCAM

To skilled traders a decline = check for past prosperity / popularity levels / volume levels and if everything checks out BUY AN ABSOLUTE SHIT LOAD, then cash out 500% profit

So true....theres no big secret to winning all the time, you just need to buy cheap and sell expensively, but when a coin is "cheap" the amateurs are kept away by manipulators telling them that the coin is dead so they never get to buy cheap.....they are always buying expensively and then being forced to sell cheap

When you look at it this way you can see that timing is probably the most important secret to winning in crypto

1. Timing

2. knowing what to look for

3. knowing the difference between a bear and bull market because you cant use the same method to trade both

4. having more than 10 btc at any one time in active trades in the market to create a constant and passive stream of income

5. knowing about manipulation

6. knowing how to manipulate

7. REINVESTING PROFIT

8. being as hands off as possible

9. using several different types of automation so that you can be in several different places in one time

10. knowing what makes people lose, and then being there to make sure that money is lost to YOU

Thats the 10 commandments, I could throw 10 more in there but those are the most efficient ways of squeezing this market dry and totally milking the game for all its worth

I'd love to hear what ryan or toleng has to say about this

I think this is a bullet proof list tbh

Not bullet proof, but pretty darn close Cheesy Cheesy considerable damage can and will be caused by whoever puts that into practice



lol I didn't say it was the holy gail or any thing, just some of the guidelines that I follow

pretty damn close to being the holy grail though brother, some things I would have left out
and i would have expanded on some of those points
but that's pretty much the foundation right there
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please don't be naive and think ryan is not posting on his own thread cheerleading his services.

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Ryan: I joined your group previous week. None of your picks went up so far. But that would be OK so far as I understand sometimes we need to wait 2-3 weeks for those picks to go up. BUT, on Twitter you posted that you made 491% on Californium. (https://twitter.com/Pumper_Ryan/status/592373572770856960) Maybe you made that profit but I'm pretty sure nobody else from the last week's group which received info 20.4 at cca 16.00 CET when the pump was already over. You advised to buy below 100K so I bought at 70K thinking it could be good price, then I bought at about 27K again thinking that I bought cheap. And the price now? It's literally dumped to ground (3700 SAT or so?). So I wonder when were you able to make that 491% profit because since 20.4. until now it kept declining quite sharply. As the DEV at CF is not active anymore, it's already clear that was just another "1 week" scam coin.

So I have feeling you advised us to buy CF at the moment you were selling. Here is proof:

1) At cca 16.45 last monday 20.4. you sent info about picks



2) But at that time the CF pump was already over and from that moment the price has kept declining until today. This is telling me that you bought CF before that pump (maybe 12-24 hours earlier) and sold before you actually sent email to your group. Please send us screenshot when you bought CF and when you sold.



Regarding all other picks from last week, all are doing like shit btw (start, fc2, xai, nlg)  I have lost on all of them so far, but I'm still giving it a little chance. If you don't pump them, maybe somebody else will pump one day in far future. If you say you pump the coins which you pick, why don't you pump them in the same week you pick them? What is the reason for waiting another 2-3 weeks, you wait for somebody else to pump them by chance, right? Or you just take 0.5 membership and basically do nothing else but market your strategies which work for you but not for the group.


I will appreciate if you could argue on my post. If you delete it, it will be clear signal for me that you are just another clasical crypto scammer.

Welcome to the real world. That's how all that fall to Ryan's scammy ways end up. You certainly didn't believe that "master" trader who dictates the market would need your 0.5 BTC "membership" fee, did you?
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Its all a matter of perspective +1

noobish traders will only ever see the small picture, because they aren't mentally able to see the bigger picture
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Hi ryan, message sent tnx
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you tell me you are just going to "predict" 200 pumps naturally? OH FUCKING PLEASE this is NOT natural! no way is this "natural" either you guys have inside information or you are working with outside whales because wtf??

actually bro ryan has the longest track record of doing this and he explains how in all of his posts

Nice one for cloak, I knew it was going to go up but didn't expect such a large rise





I made money on CLOAK, GSX, XSB, OPAL, ESC, SMBR, NKT, START

Anyone who sells something that ryan tells them to buy is an imbecile

If you’re the type of trader who bounces around, aimlessly, from coin to coin – then you’d find a much more suitable habitat at the roulette table, or the slot machine. Trading is a venture that requires strategy, this isn’t a game of musical chairs... there is a very specific method to playing this market for continuous profit and it has everything to do with ‘long-term trading.'

Soo so so true!!! Some people are so happy with small 100% wins that they don't even realize that we have been buying start since 3K
Start breaking 50K yesterday is a 1500% profit for the squad
yet another TEN-BAGGER!!
THAT IS THE POWER OF GOING LONG TERM






These are his picks for 15 DECEMBER 2014 to 21 DECEMBER 2014, now watch how we make money at a 100% success rate










Every one of those picks spat out more than TWO TIMES profit

Ryan is very smart and gives everyone subtle hints and clues on how to really make the BIG BUCKS, if you read his posts you would know. I personally never miss one of ryans posts because he always drops pieces of gold for smart people to pick up

for example here are quotes from ryan that he puts into his posts to hint on how to make BIG money, it applies to the above picks and profits aswell

Tip: Novices are so out of sync with the market, that their every move serves only to fatten the pockets of skilled players. From timing, to pattern exploitation – novices are so out of touch with the driving forces behind price movement. So they consistently fail. In order to achieve exponential success in this market, you have to realise that short-term thinking is a mind frame that was custom designed for losers. Expand your time horizons and begin to explore the long term rewards that this market has to offer. Once you come into alignment with the prevailing patterns found in every single altcoin on the market – profit will consistently flow into your hands, with very little effort. Call it manipulation, or whatever you will – but, whilst you are trading this market, you are wither trading with the prevailing pattern, or against it. Make your choice.


Short term trading is a fools sport, and I’ll tell you why.

Taking a short term view on price movement is nothing other than a futile attempt to force an opinion on the market – which will always be a losing proposition.
 
You see, in order for the flood gates to be forced open, allowing an endless stream of BTC to flow into your hands, it is necessary for you to understand that it is impossible to win when approaching the market with a short-term mindset.

If you were to spend just one hour analysing the charts, you will quickly realise that It is virtually impossible for a short-term trader to pull big money from the market on a consistent basis.

In a previous post, I demonstrated the differences between trading and gambling, pointing out that trading is a venture that requires calculation – whilst gambling is a venture requiring nothing other than misguided hope. The rationalization was that altcoin gamblers, actually believe that trading is gambling, and so they ‘act as if’ this is a fact.

Short-term trading is the gamblers thought process manifested into tangible action.

You see, a short-term trader is basically someone who spends the majority of their time betting on the ‘continuation’ of price moves that have already occurred.

Guys, Short-term trading is a fools sport.

Just by looking at the charts, you will very quickly realise that most rallies erupt over the space of several days at a time. Some moves take several weeks or even months before the market turns around.

The big money is being made by those who understand market psychology. By those who understand that price patterns and market cycles are the keys that unlock the floodgates to profit.

If you have been taking these non-advantageous short-term trades, I hope now you are aware why you have been accumulating loss after loss. It may be time to rethink your approach.

If you are lucky enough to trade with the group

READ EVERY POST that ryan makes because he TELLS YOU how to profit

LONG TERM trades is how we win and win all the time

I shouldn't say this, but it's obvious that ryan only posts weekly profits to throw outsiders off the scent, he knows that if he says CCN coin moved 50% this week outsider novices will think the move is done and will move their focus to another coin, while we bag 100% profits on CCN in the following weeks

but if you look at the charts i posted EVERYTHING is long-term




You missed the point... Balkhole showed that profits come "long-term" instead of how novices think they do (short-term)

I thought I made it clear Cheesy

here is the same thing in picture format lol



Tip: Expand your time horizons and begin to explore the long term rewards that this market has to offer.

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More money put into the right trade is more money taken out. If you are an experienced trader and you are still scared to take a trade with more than $100 then you should probably quit now while you're ahead. Trading anying less than $100 is like being handed $1000 for free, and then you only take $10 out to keep for yourself and hand back $990


so much money is left on the table by taking small trades only

its the death by a thousand cuts theory

i guess the ones that do this think that by going small they are reducing their exposure to loss

but if you lose $10 ten times, there goes your little 100 bucks stash Cheesy

so its always better to increase the size

just pour on the size and make the right moves and you'll be sailing
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No it was actually a 53btc injection that pushed the price from 50 to 179

I don't care whatever you call it, accumulation or whatever. You fuckers have inside knowledge.

I am looking at the NKT chart now and I am seeing pre-buys where this group has been gathering coins. Loads of fucking pre buys since the 12th of jan, so "ryan" and his "group" obviously know something that they aren't telling us here.

It is insiders knowledge and "his group" obviously do know something that isn't being shared publicly. Thats the benefit of being in a private group i suppose Wink

Yeah so here you are bragging to everyone because you guys cheat the system every week am I supposed to be impressed or something?

I hate to discuss "private" matters here but I have personally worked with ryan before and I know how he operates. This is why I brought up bots and the whole 9. He's heavily into that shit because when you have your own servers you can work bots in multiple coins at a time without having to physically be there

You can setup your bots, head out to the beach (or whatever the fuck this guy does) and come home to 50btc of profit easily without breaking a sweat. You can do this every fucking day if you want

I am not a trader, I develop coins and make my money that way.

After working with ryan once on a "small job" that we paid him good money for (40btc) I used his services again to help my team accumulate a % of a certain coin. This is how I know ryan is working bots all over this market because with this coin that we were dealing with, you couldn't place a single sell order without 5 small orders undercutting you. Professional manipulation

He forced sell resistance higher with sell orders totaling 20btc which jammed up the coin and caused people to dump on our buys. Granted, the whole thing was done very impressively and he has obviously put together a pretty decent machine, no complaints there. What pissed me off is the total lack of empathy this guy has

His asking price for this service was 70btc to which we all agreed upon, we even ponied up 15btc upfront. Now with the price of this coin shot to shit, and the job done. Ryan, out of the fucking blue, asks for the remaining 65btc..... but how the fuck could we pay him right away without the price of the coin lifting first? I explained this to him 50 times but he didn't budge because he didn't "trust" us WTF ryan?

He kept his sell walls on the coin and kept his bots running.... basically holding us to ransom until we paid this 65btc

Now I'm all for manipulation, the market cant function without it. But what I value more than anything else is ethical manipulation, you don't break the gentleman's code over some BS like this

sure, maybe we should have had our shit together before bringing ryan on board but sometimes, in business, you have to understand that you need to take risks to make MORE money!! ryan didn't want to take that risk with us and basically hung us out to dry

We ended up paying him 10btc per day last week before he decided to remove his "sell pressure"

im sure ass kissers and cronies are thinking "if you want a service you have to pay for it" and "nothings for free" blah blah.. well fuck you! In business, it's give and take. Ryan wanted to get paid first and that's understandable, but we didn't have the dough to pay him so he could have helped us out on that front and given us a little leeway

i'm not a ryan hater like the rest... hell, the guy teaches how the market is manipulated and how to profit from it, that's respectable..  i have made good money here and there. I am just disappointed with the way he has treated my team and feel like it was wrong and could have been handled differently

great trader, but hes a miser and him and his group only make money because they manipulate the fuck out of this market. Every day they fill up on some random coin (like NKT). Then, out of the blue, this random shitcoin is pumping like hell and they only people that profit is ryan and his group,, not my type of scene

hell manipulation is there for all to see so I will profit from this regardless

You could even call me a manipulator, who gives a shit. In this market you're either fucking someone in the ass or getting fucked yourself. I don't care how much money you make in the process, if you get into bed with ryan you're shaking hands with the devil himself. I would much rather slug it out in the market and make money on my own, all it's gonna take is some elbow grease but im not scared to work hard. Fuck taking the easy route, that's for pussies who don't care about the guy the other side of the trade

Ryan is working bots galore all over this fucking market there is no way in fucking hell you can "predict" all of this shit every fucking month like this GTFO

there is something you idiots are doing to "make things happen" so just come out and fucking say it

you tell me you are just going to "predict" 200 pumps naturally? OH FUCKING PLEASE this is NOT natural! no way is this "natural" either you guys have inside information or you are working with outside whales because wtf??

there is no way you can make this kind of volume just appear out of the freaking blue like this yet every time it does, you fuckers just happen to "know" about it MONTHS before the rest of us? Yeah maybe i can understand you seeing some shit popping off with all the talk on twitter and then scoring some money from a quick pump

but to do this every month is complete and total manipulation of the market it is NOT natural so tell us ALL about the bots you are using so that we can get on a level playing field

NO ONE in this place should have ANY advantage
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Always play for meaningful stakes

“Only bet what you can afford to lose,” says the old bromide. You hear it in Las Vegas, on Wall Street, and wherever people risk money to get more money. You read it in books of investment and money management advice by conventional counsellors. It is repeated so often and in so many places that it has taken on an aura of truth through assertion.

But, you should study it with the greatest  care before making it a part of your speculative toolkit.

As most people interpret it, it is a formula that almost assures poor results.

Whats an amount that you can “afford to lose?” Most would define it as “an amount which, if I lose it, won’t hurt.” Or “an amount which, if I lose it, won’t make any significant difference in my general financial well-being.”

A buck or two, in other words. Twenty bucks. A few hundred. These are the kinds of amounts most people would consider loss-affordable. And as a result, these are the kinds of amounts most people trade the crypto markets with.

But consider this. If you bet $100 and double your money, you’re still poor.

The only way to beat the system is to play for meaningful stakes. This doesn’t mean you should bet amounts whose loss would bankrupt you, but it does mean you must get over the fear of being hurt.

If an amount is so small that its loss won’t make any significant difference, then it isn’t likely to bring you any significant gains either. You cannot win a big payoff from a small wager, that goes contrary to the laws of physics. Yet people attempt to do this all day long in crypto.

You see, taking anything less than a 0.5BTC trade is nothing more than a complete waste of time in this market, especially in the current bullish climate.

Left, right and centre there are coins producing 500%+ gains – yet people continue to pussy foot around on their tippy toes in fear of making trades using more than 0.2BTC.  

Time and time again I make it clear to each and every person who enquires about making money in the altcoin market, if you want to win big, then you have to trade big. There are no shortcuts or hidden loopholes that will enable you to avoid this.

But there is one thing that is guaranteed.

The larger your trades are, you’ll all of a sudden start to rake money in at an alarmingly rapid pace. In terms of the sheer size of the profits you’ll be raking in, you’ll instantaneously leap frog over the common 0.1BTC traders in this market in favour of double digit BTC takings month after month.

This is the way the game is played, and the sooner you realise it – the sooner you’ll begin to claim your own portion of the wealth that is being created on a daily basis in this market.

If you want to make three figure btc amounts during this bull market, then print that ^^^ out and paste it above your workstation

EVERYTHING changed for me when I started picking my spots and making bigger trades

What is 1000% gained on only 5 btc? Thats freaking 55 btc in one trade and thats whats happening below the radar with all of these alts, people are hitting it big and the profits are only getting larger

More money put into the right trade is more money taken out. If you are an experienced trader and you are still scared to take a trade with more than $100 then you should probably quit now while you're ahead. Trading anying less than $100 is like being handed $1000 for free, and then you only take $10 out to keep for yourself and hand back $990
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I just can't believe how stupid some people are. FREE MONEY. From trading in an unregulated market. With all the same "money-making-rush" as gambling. I almost want this thread to be taken off the planet because I don't want anyone else to gain this knowledge, but it would ruin the comedy gold of people coming in and calling us puppets because they're jealous.

Some people get it, some people dont.......plus intelligence is a luxury not a birthright LOL

Everyone should take this IQ test http://www.free-iqtest.net/
if you score highly then read all of ryans posts because you'll be rich by the end of the month, but if your score is dreadfully low then bugger off because this stuff is not for you Wink

BTW who else is getting disgustingly rich off ARCH CRAVE & DASH

Cheesy Cheesy



I second this

everyone should take this IQ test http://www.free-iqtest.net/  and then post your results for all of us to see

Grin

i think this will answer all of our questions

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1000% profits are no longer rare and with all of this accumulation and manipulation that is being executed, I totally agree with you, its turning into a freak show of profits
100btc is only 20k usd roughly, but the real kicker is how much 100 btc is going to be worth when btc gets back into the $300 price tier and then the $400 tier and so on

when you start to run the numbers on that, thats when you start to see the actual value of how easy it is to generate bitcoins right now


+ 1 Your past moves always dictate your future profits

The average trader guy is waiting for bitcoin to go back to $300 before he picks up some coins

Smart manipulator guys are manipulating the shit out of altcoins and accumulating bundles of bitcoins for free, then doubling up in the btc 2 usd market

then when bitcoin moons, even the small fish with only 10btc to their names are gonna be flush with cash

so that explains the recent scramble and uptick in volume because so many people are now starting to see that the power players use and abuse altcoins just so that they can create bitcoins out of thin air and then cash out at 2000% profit when bitcoins price explodes

its all about manipulation and more people are waking up and realizing how things really work

There is not one coin that will look attractive to an amateur, until it actually blatantly looks attractive. New traders don't have vision so they are mentally unable to understand that there is a live and actively running cycle of movement in every single section of this market of ours

You have people saying that they hate crypto and they are leaving the market because bitcoins price is low, altcoins prices are low etc.....WTFF? do you know what mr joey bloggs, the hedge fund manager up in connecticut is thinking right now? He's telling all his underlings to pick up bundles of btc, they are investing in mining farms, accumulating a fuck load of hashing power and some are right here in the alt world just totally shitting out brand new altcoins just to "test the waters"

there is a fucking crypto currency arms race taking place, and idiots are moaning because "bitcoins price is low" ??

My question is what causes noob traders to see cheap as dead? Thats what I want to know lol, cause this defies all logic


Well i think 30% of people here are under the age of 18, so that answers 50% of your question.

These guys have brains that aren't fully formed yet LOL, and they are being treated like the carcass of an aborted fetus being slung, basket ball stye, into the nearest trash can

and the rest of them? well, i dunno..i struggle to believe that an intelligent man, over the age of 25 would sit down all day bitching bitcoin losing $2 of value, i could be wrong though

if you look at well established coin like bitcoindark that has made hundreds of people RICH, and you call it "dead" instead of cheap, then just do the world a favor and shoot yourself right now because people like that shouldn't be reproducing
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1000% profits are no longer rare and with all of this accumulation and manipulation that is being executed, I totally agree with you, its turning into a freak show of profits
100btc is only 20k usd roughly, but the real kicker is how much 100 btc is going to be worth when btc gets back into the $300 price tier and then the $400 tier and so on

when you start to run the numbers on that, thats when you start to see the actual value of how easy it is to generate bitcoins right now


+ 1 Your past moves always dictate your future profits

The average trader guy is waiting for bitcoin to go back to $300 before he picks up some coins

Smart manipulator guys are manipulating the shit out of altcoins and accumulating bundles of bitcoins for free, then doubling up in the btc 2 usd market

then when bitcoin moons, even the small fish with only 10btc to their names are gonna be flush with cash

so that explains the recent scramble and uptick in volume because so many people are now starting to see that the power players use and abuse altcoins just so that they can create bitcoins out of thin air and then cash out at 2000% profit when bitcoins price explodes

its all about manipulation and more people are waking up and realizing how things really work

There is not one coin that will look attractive to an amateur, until it actually blatantly looks attractive. New traders don't have vision so they are mentally unable to understand that there is a live and actively running cycle of movement in every single section of this market of ours

You have people saying that they hate crypto and they are leaving the market because bitcoins price is low, altcoins prices are low etc.....WTFF? do you know what mr joey bloggs, the hedge fund manager up in connecticut is thinking right now? He's telling all his underlings to pick up bundles of btc, they are investing in mining farms, accumulating a fuck load of hashing power and some are right here in the alt world just totally shitting out brand new altcoins just to "test the waters"

there is a fucking crypto currency arms race taking place, and idiots are moaning because "bitcoins price is low" ??

My question is what causes noob traders to see cheap as dead? Thats what I want to know lol, cause this defies all logic

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On January 23rd, SPR fell into a quagmire of what seemed to be an endless pit of decline, and as a rule – the ‘majority’ of traders in this market believe that a decline in price is “irreversible,” which is interestingly what causes them to refer to coins like this as “dead,” whilst skilled traders refer to coins that are in this type of condition as “cheap” and therefore ripe for accumulation.

Starting on January 23rd, SPR declined from 69,960 Satoshi by 96% and settled at 2,507 Satoshi on March 12th.

As a personal rule, any coin that has attracted a large pool of market wide attention previously – and has declined in price by more than 90%, should be bought with no questions asked as it represents tremendous potential for clean cut, high percentage profit.

However, the majority opinion in the market on March 12th was – “SPR is officially dead!”

As it turns out, anybody who ignored the majority view and bought, made off with a truck load of profit. In fact, since March 12th the price of SPR has advanced from a low of 2,505 Satoshi to a sensationally high 18,500 Satoshi – which is a gargantuan 638% gain for those who went contrary to the opinions held by the ‘majority,’ who are the consistent losers in this market.

You see the traders who make the most money out of situations like this are those who have the mental strength and fortitude to stand firm against the tide of ‘majority held opinion.’ These skilled traders are able to disregard what everyone else is saying and instead think things through for themselves – and anyone who possesses the ability to think logically understands that: the best time to buy, is when the price of a coin is low… and when a coins price is low “the majority” will always advise against buying.


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It's funny how a profit or a loss can be broken down into a simple question of perspective like this

To idiots a decline = a coin is DEAD and is also a SCAM

To skilled traders a decline = check for past prosperity / popularity levels / volume levels and if everything checks out BUY AN ABSOLUTE SHIT LOAD, then cash out 500% profit

So true....theres no big secret to winning all the time, you just need to buy cheap and sell expensively, but when a coin is "cheap" the amateurs are kept away by manipulators telling them that the coin is dead so they never get to buy cheap.....they are always buying expensively and then being forced to sell cheap

When you look at it this way you can see that timing is probably the most important secret to winning in crypto

1. Timing

2. knowing what to look for

3. knowing the difference between a bear and bull market because you cant use the same method to trade both

4. having more than 10 btc at any one time in active trades in the market to create a constant and passive stream of income

5. knowing about manipulation

6. knowing how to manipulate

7. REINVESTING PROFIT

8. being as hands off as possible

9. using several different types of automation so that you can be in several different places in one time

10. knowing what makes people lose, and then being there to make sure that money is lost to YOU

Thats the 10 commandments, I could throw 10 more in there but those are the most efficient ways of squeezing this market dry and totally milking the game for all its worth

I'd love to hear what ryan or toleng has to say about this

I think this is a bullet proof list tbh

Not bullet proof, but pretty darn close Cheesy Cheesy considerable damage can and will be caused by whoever puts that into practice



lol I didn't say it was the holy gail or any thing, just some of the guidelines that I follow
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1. Timing

2. knowing what to look for

3. knowing the difference between a bear and bull market because you cant use the same method to trade both

4. having more than 10 btc at any one time in active trades in the market to create a constant and passive stream of income

5. knowing about manipulation

6. knowing how to manipulate

7. REINVESTING PROFIT

8. being as hands off as possible

9. using several different types of automation so that you can be in several different places in one time

10. knowing what makes people lose, and then being there to make sure that money is lost to YOU

Thats the 10 commandments, I could throw 10 more in there but those are the most efficient ways of squeezing this market dry and totally milking the game for all its worth

I'd love to hear what ryan or toleng has to say about this

I think this is a bullet proof list tbh

I highlighted the most important parts, they all are sound and reasonable, perhaps some more than others
Would go as far as calling this list "the 10 commandments" you left a whole buncha shit out
never the less, still a potent combination of advice right there
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