Topic: SafeDICE.com ★ Bitcoin Dice ★ Monero ★ 0.5% Edge ★ Fast Cashout ★ Since 2014 - page 93. (Read 275856 times)
July 03, 2016, 07:32:15 PM
you say house edge is .5 percent if winnings is .5 percent of bankroll. does that mean 1/200.or 1/2
July 03, 2016, 07:31:49 PM
I really don't understand why anyone invests in SD when it clearly has a fu**** up investment system and an absentee owner who doesn't respond to problems.
It wasnt that bad before the site lose major amount, owner was still quite active back then however ever since the site suffered those major lost then everything seems to be turning down lately perhaps owner has lost interest on the site. Back then it was a quite popular dice site, so anyone would invest in there
Not true....look at their profit over time. Certainly looks like the owner is withdrawing a large amount every now and then disguised as a win.
July 03, 2016, 07:28:54 PM
I really don't understand why anyone invests in SD when it clearly has a fu**** up investment system and an absentee owner who doesn't respond to problems.
It wasnt that bad before the site lose major amount, owner was still quite active back then however ever since the site suffered those major lost then everything seems to be turning down lately perhaps owner has lost interest on the site. Back then it was a quite popular dice site, so anyone would invest in there
July 03, 2016, 05:18:41 PM
At least the automated withdrawals work smoothly.
Except not even all the time.
I know, from what I've read I consider myself lucky.
July 03, 2016, 05:13:27 PM
At least the automated withdrawals work smoothly.
Except not even all the time.
July 03, 2016, 04:34:07 PM
At least the automated withdrawals work smoothly.
July 03, 2016, 03:02:39 PM
I really don't understand why anyone invests in SD when it clearly has a fu**** up investment system and an absentee owner who doesn't respond to problems.
Not to mention SD seems to undergo massive losses in bankroll not infrequently that I haven't seen any other site do. It's my personal belief that the owner, as he doesn't actually invest in bankroll has been using his knowledge of the server secret to steal from investors under the guise of actual 'wins.' The fact that the controversy over the payout last time went away so quickly (no confirmation of payment from either owner or 'Winner' only fuels this suspicion).
Not to mention SD seems to undergo massive losses in bankroll not infrequently that I haven't seen any other site do. It's my personal belief that the owner, as he doesn't actually invest in bankroll has been using his knowledge of the server secret to steal from investors under the guise of actual 'wins.' The fact that the controversy over the payout last time went away so quickly (no confirmation of payment from either owner or 'Winner' only fuels this suspicion).
July 03, 2016, 01:11:13 PM
Your invested balance is shown as actual invested. The total invested in the site is shown as Actual invested, but your percentage is shown as your virtual investment vs total virtual investment.
So Total invested: 100 Btc
Your total Invested: 1 Btc
Your kelly: 2x.
Your virtual Investment: 2 btc.
Total virtual investment: unknown.
So if you're the only person with a 2x kriteria in the whole investment, the virtual bankroll will be 101 (99 coins invested at 1x kelly, + 1 coin invested at 2 kelly = 101), thus your percentage = 2/101*100=1.98.
According to my own investment, the virtual bankroll should be at around 70.9 Btc. So if you calculate your percentage as (your total invested * your kelly)/70.9*100, you should get about the same percentage as shown on the site (there will be some difference in the decimals because of rounding on my side and yours etc, and if the site wins/loses a few coins between me posting this and you calculating it yourself, it's also going to make a difference).
Interesting note here: The average kelly of the site is 1.9x. That means that everything but around 2 coins is invested at 2x kelly.
So Total invested: 100 Btc
Your total Invested: 1 Btc
Your kelly: 2x.
Your virtual Investment: 2 btc.
Total virtual investment: unknown.
So if you're the only person with a 2x kriteria in the whole investment, the virtual bankroll will be 101 (99 coins invested at 1x kelly, + 1 coin invested at 2 kelly = 101), thus your percentage = 2/101*100=1.98.
According to my own investment, the virtual bankroll should be at around 70.9 Btc. So if you calculate your percentage as (your total invested * your kelly)/70.9*100, you should get about the same percentage as shown on the site (there will be some difference in the decimals because of rounding on my side and yours etc, and if the site wins/loses a few coins between me posting this and you calculating it yourself, it's also going to make a difference).
Interesting note here: The average kelly of the site is 1.9x. That means that everything but around 2 coins is invested at 2x kelly.
How are you calculating the virtual investment size? If the average Kelly is 1.9x and the current actual bankroll is 51.5, the virtual bankroll should be around 98ish, not 70.9
Using 70.9 as the virtual bankroll my percentage is even further apart than what I'm calculating.
If I assume that everyone is around 1.9x kelly my percentage adds up now, but only if my investment is treated like a 1x Kelly. This makes no sense because the virtual bankroll should be a lot smaller if my investment is treated as 1x.
I might be taking my money off until I can get this discrepancy resolved.
I looked at the wrong number sorry, virtual investment is around 70.9 and average kelly is around 1.36
Yea something seems really strange with my account. I'll show an example of what 1 btc does to the bankroll from my account.
Currently the bankroll is at 44.7 btc, so virtual bankroll should be around 60.8 btc. The numbers are still off in both scenarios. If I assume that everyone is invested at 1x kelly with a bankroll of 44.7 btc and I invest 1 btc at 2x kelly my % should be around 4.5%. If I assume virtual bankroll is 60.8 btc, my 1btc 2x Kelly investment should be around 3.2%. Please correct my if my numbers are wrong.
Here are my actual numbers on the site investing 1 btc with 44.7 btc bankroll. 2x kelly - 1.54%, 1x kelly - 0.76%, 0.5 kelly - 0.38%.
For whatever reason it appears my investment is being treated as 1x Kelly vs the virtual bankroll, even though its at 2x kelly. 1x kelly vs the virtual bankroll is 1.6%. 2x kelly is 3.2%. I'm actually getting 1.54%. So I can't get 2x kelly on this site. I'm being shorted almost half my investment somehow, unless my math is wrong.
I'm not implying something malicious, it could just be some kind of system error. In the meantime my money is off the site until I can get a response from the owner.
July 03, 2016, 08:40:42 AM
Worst support on dice gambling so far.
Kept my cash for 3 days.
I would have made 5btc by now.
Worst site
Kept my cash for 3 days.
I would have made 5btc by now.
Worst site
This is the only time i know they took too long to respond in issues on their site. Maybe the admin is really busy on his/her real life. I wonder if safedice have only 1 man to answer support tickets
July 03, 2016, 07:14:35 AM
Worst support on dice gambling so far.
Kept my cash for 3 days.
I would have made 5btc by now.
Worst site
Kept my cash for 3 days.
I would have made 5btc by now.
Worst site
This is the only time i know they took too long to respond in issues on their site. Maybe the admin is really busy on his/her real life. I wonder if safedice have only 1 man to answer support tickets
July 03, 2016, 06:58:31 AM
Worst support on dice gambling so far.
Kept my cash for 3 days.
I would have made 5btc by now.
Worst site
Kept my cash for 3 days.
I would have made 5btc by now.
Worst site
It feels a bit dodgy to me too - I jumped over to www.moneypot.com and am checking that out now.
July 03, 2016, 04:39:16 AM
Your invested balance is shown as actual invested. The total invested in the site is shown as Actual invested, but your percentage is shown as your virtual investment vs total virtual investment.
So Total invested: 100 Btc
Your total Invested: 1 Btc
Your kelly: 2x.
Your virtual Investment: 2 btc.
Total virtual investment: unknown.
So if you're the only person with a 2x kriteria in the whole investment, the virtual bankroll will be 101 (99 coins invested at 1x kelly, + 1 coin invested at 2 kelly = 101), thus your percentage = 2/101*100=1.98.
According to my own investment, the virtual bankroll should be at around 70.9 Btc. So if you calculate your percentage as (your total invested * your kelly)/70.9*100, you should get about the same percentage as shown on the site (there will be some difference in the decimals because of rounding on my side and yours etc, and if the site wins/loses a few coins between me posting this and you calculating it yourself, it's also going to make a difference).
Interesting note here: The average kelly of the site is 1.9x. That means that everything but around 2 coins is invested at 2x kelly.
So Total invested: 100 Btc
Your total Invested: 1 Btc
Your kelly: 2x.
Your virtual Investment: 2 btc.
Total virtual investment: unknown.
So if you're the only person with a 2x kriteria in the whole investment, the virtual bankroll will be 101 (99 coins invested at 1x kelly, + 1 coin invested at 2 kelly = 101), thus your percentage = 2/101*100=1.98.
According to my own investment, the virtual bankroll should be at around 70.9 Btc. So if you calculate your percentage as (your total invested * your kelly)/70.9*100, you should get about the same percentage as shown on the site (there will be some difference in the decimals because of rounding on my side and yours etc, and if the site wins/loses a few coins between me posting this and you calculating it yourself, it's also going to make a difference).
Interesting note here: The average kelly of the site is 1.9x. That means that everything but around 2 coins is invested at 2x kelly.
How are you calculating the virtual investment size? If the average Kelly is 1.9x and the current actual bankroll is 51.5, the virtual bankroll should be around 98ish, not 70.9
Using 70.9 as the virtual bankroll my percentage is even further apart than what I'm calculating.
If I assume that everyone is around 1.9x kelly my percentage adds up now, but only if my investment is treated like a 1x Kelly. This makes no sense because the virtual bankroll should be a lot smaller if my investment is treated as 1x.
I might be taking my money off until I can get this discrepancy resolved.
I looked at the wrong number sorry, virtual investment is around 70.9 and average kelly is around 1.36
July 03, 2016, 04:09:27 AM
Worst support on dice gambling so far.
Kept my cash for 3 days.
I would have made 5btc by now.
Worst site
Kept my cash for 3 days.
I would have made 5btc by now.
Worst site
It feels a bit dodgy to me too - I jumped over to www.moneypot.com and am checking that out now.
July 03, 2016, 03:31:22 AM
Worst support on dice gambling so far.
Kept my cash for 3 days.
I would have made 5btc by now.
Worst site
Kept my cash for 3 days.
I would have made 5btc by now.
Worst site
July 02, 2016, 01:04:20 PM
Your invested balance is shown as actual invested. The total invested in the site is shown as Actual invested, but your percentage is shown as your virtual investment vs total virtual investment.
So Total invested: 100 Btc
Your total Invested: 1 Btc
Your kelly: 2x.
Your virtual Investment: 2 btc.
Total virtual investment: unknown.
So if you're the only person with a 2x kriteria in the whole investment, the virtual bankroll will be 101 (99 coins invested at 1x kelly, + 1 coin invested at 2 kelly = 101), thus your percentage = 2/101*100=1.98.
According to my own investment, the virtual bankroll should be at around 70.9 Btc. So if you calculate your percentage as (your total invested * your kelly)/70.9*100, you should get about the same percentage as shown on the site (there will be some difference in the decimals because of rounding on my side and yours etc, and if the site wins/loses a few coins between me posting this and you calculating it yourself, it's also going to make a difference).
Interesting note here: The average kelly of the site is 1.9x. That means that everything but around 2 coins is invested at 2x kelly.
So Total invested: 100 Btc
Your total Invested: 1 Btc
Your kelly: 2x.
Your virtual Investment: 2 btc.
Total virtual investment: unknown.
So if you're the only person with a 2x kriteria in the whole investment, the virtual bankroll will be 101 (99 coins invested at 1x kelly, + 1 coin invested at 2 kelly = 101), thus your percentage = 2/101*100=1.98.
According to my own investment, the virtual bankroll should be at around 70.9 Btc. So if you calculate your percentage as (your total invested * your kelly)/70.9*100, you should get about the same percentage as shown on the site (there will be some difference in the decimals because of rounding on my side and yours etc, and if the site wins/loses a few coins between me posting this and you calculating it yourself, it's also going to make a difference).
Interesting note here: The average kelly of the site is 1.9x. That means that everything but around 2 coins is invested at 2x kelly.
How are you calculating the virtual investment size? If the average Kelly is 1.9x and the current actual bankroll is 51.5, the virtual bankroll should be around 98ish, not 70.9
Using 70.9 as the virtual bankroll my percentage is even further apart than what I'm calculating.
If I assume that everyone is around 1.9x kelly my percentage adds up now, but only if my investment is treated like a 1x Kelly. This makes no sense because the virtual bankroll should be a lot smaller if my investment is treated as 1x.
I might be taking my money off until I can get this discrepancy resolved.
July 02, 2016, 11:10:06 AM
How come the Kelly cannot be changed after you have invested? Does this need to be done before you set up your account?
It's easy to do, you just "Divest all" and then change Kelly and then "Invest All" , that should do it.
July 02, 2016, 09:35:28 AM
How come the Kelly cannot be changed after you have invested? Does this need to be done before you set up your account?
July 02, 2016, 09:20:46 AM
Just put some coins in the Bankroll of the site - pretty fun.
Should have read the last 100 pages of content on this thread to make sure I'm not getting screwed but here we are...
Should have read the last 100 pages of content on this thread to make sure I'm not getting screwed but here we are...
July 02, 2016, 07:04:35 AM
Why does my percentage of total site investment less than it should be? Is the bankroll bigger than is publicly posted? There is a very large discrepancy from what my percentage should be.
Did you leverage your investment? If not, you likely control a smaller amount of the bankroll (in terms of exposure), because most investors in dice sites use as much margin as possible.
I am maxxed out on kelly on this site (2x). So if I am using the max margin shouldn't my percentage be easy to calculate? For example, 1 btc max margin in a 100 btc bankroll would be 1%. Or am I missing something here?
Your invested balance is shown as actual invested. The total invested in the site is shown as Actual invested, but your percentage is shown as your virtual investment vs total virtual investment.
So Total invested: 100 Btc
Your total Invested: 1 Btc
Your kelly: 2x.
Your virtual Investment: 2 btc.
Total virtual investment: unknown.
So if you're the only person with a 2x kriteria in the whole investment, the virtual bankroll will be 101 (99 coins invested at 1x kelly, + 1 coin invested at 2 kelly = 101), thus your percentage = 2/101*100=1.98.
According to my own investment, the virtual bankroll should be at around 70.9 Btc. So if you calculate your percentage as (your total invested * your kelly)/70.9*100, you should get about the same percentage as shown on the site (there will be some difference in the decimals because of rounding on my side and yours etc, and if the site wins/loses a few coins between me posting this and you calculating it yourself, it's also going to make a difference).
Interesting note here: The average kelly of the site is 1.9x. That means that everything but around 2 coins is invested at 2x kelly.
July 02, 2016, 05:26:27 AM
Input an alias and click get started. Deposit and then the site goes down last night. When I came back, I can't login my account because I didn't have the chance to have a password as the website is down. Can I retrieve it again? 
Your best option would be providing the tx id of your deposit and if possible provide a signed message from the sending wallet.
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