Topic: Sanction against Russia for West-choreographed conflict in Ukraine - page 11. (Read 30040 times)

EU drafts new sanctions against Russia over Ukraine, but ‘wants no confrontation’
http://rt.com/news/183944-eu-sanctions-ukraine-summit/


No they are not. Each time Russia comes with an initiative for peaceful resolution of Ukrainian internal conflict, that gets blocked in the UN by either USA or Lithuania.


As I said: Russia proposed that Kiev takes steps to a peaceful dialogue with the freedom fighters. Nixed by Kiev. Border control? and what are the OSCE observers are doing at the border all the time? Are they sugegstion building a wall? The border between Russia and Ukraine is as physical as the border between Belgium and Holland.

Some reader comments:

And

EU sanctions are emotional step instructed by US – Russian parliament speaker
http://rt.com/news/183936-naryshkin-ukraine-sanctions-reaction/

Deputy Economic Development Minister Alexei Vedev told a briefing on Tuesday that the ministry now saw inflation standing at 7-7.5 percent at the end of 2014, up from its previous forecast of 6 percent. It cited the impact of a ban on Western food imports that Russia introduced in retaliation for Western sanctions.

He added that a new tax on sales to be introduced next year would also add around 1 percent to the inflation rate.

The ministry left its 2014 gross domestic product growth forecast unchanged at 0.5 percent despite ministry officials having said several times in recent months that they may raise it.

But it halved its economic growth forecast for 2015 to 1 percent from 2 percent.

and then there is the magic number 37.2115....

Russian gas sector should not be sanctioned – EU energy chief
http://rt.com/business/183364-russian-gas-not-sanctioned/

Switzerland mirrors EU sanctions against Russia
http://rt.com/business/183296-switzerland-sanctions-russian-lenders/

Bye-bye Swiss cheese.

What irks me is why they talk about sanctions as a normal everyday stuff in the first place?

And all the while we should not lose focus of why those sanctions were imposed:

Officially, because Russia will not invade Ukraine and stop the war there (how else can Russia stop a war in another country, when all diplomatic initiatives have systematically been blocked by EU/US):
See today's speech from Lavrov:
http://ria.ru/world/20140827/1021634114.html
http://rt.com/news/183136-west-russia-confrontation-lavrov/

In reality, it's because of BRICS and Russia not wanting to play the dollar game any more.

In either case, these sanctions against Russia are a de-juro declaration of war.

Ah, I see some sense from the Communist Party of Russian Federation:

Communists say Russia should throw off ‘strangling noose’ of WTO
http://rt.com/politics/182560-russia-communists-wto-quit/

I think not all field which will give sanction against Russia, maybe only military sanction or the others, the farmer in Russia is one of the best farmer in the world that can not be given sanction, culture, scientist, education, etc ...
Hopefully this sanction doesn't take effect to warefare of the country ...

http://youtu.be/--FGUPobyNI

Dr. Alfons Proebstl 31 - Auch die Russen lieben ihre Kinder

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp47DssZFgs

It seems that these guys weren't satisfied.

A large portion of EU agricultural production is reliant on government subsidies, by imposing sanctions the EU will have to either increase the subsidies or allow more producers to go out of business either way its not going to improve prices or the sustainability of producers.   

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

^^^ At least now the EU supermarkets will be forced to cut down prices of their ultra-expensive food products. Most of the ordinary EU citizens will now be thanking Putin for making food more affordable.  And at the same time, the farmers won't be affected, as they are compensated by the EU. Better still, the farmers in the non-EU nations such as Serbia will get good prices for their farm-products. A win-win situation for all.

My guess is that they are trending up, as they already did in the beginning of the year, so nothing new here:
http://ria.ru/economy/20140424/1005289913.html

The list of embargoed goods is still fine-tuned, it will hit hardest the "elite" part of the Moscow and St.Petersburg population, but they will also be making the most noise...

I think your best starting point would be:
http://www.gks.ru/wps/wcm/connect/rosstat_main/rosstat/en/main/
http://www.gks.ru/wps/wcm/connect/rosstat_main/rosstat/en/figures/finances/

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American journal Foreign Affairs analysed the situation with US sanctions and came to the conclusion that it will negatively impact the countries of Asian-Pacific region, even if they don't join the US, which sent a number of envoys to various countries there to persuade them to join the sanctions:
http://itar-tass.com/ekonomika/1391344?utm_medium=rss20

Looks, like Europe is preparing for counter-counter-counter-countersanctions (calling them prophylactic - doublespeak again!). In EU parliament there was voiced a proposition to create sanctions that should "hit hard the Russian economy", and to that end exclude Russian rouble from exchanges in Europe, making it non-convertable. howver, this was voiced by the new vice-speaker Charneckij, who is from Poland, so it's to be expected:
http://ria.ru/economy/20140821/1020786176.html

Well, rouble was used on the national market to start with and didn't have much circulation in Europe (except for tourists exchanges, maybe). But with BRICS everything's changing as the BRICS countries will use national currencies in their international trade. With this, and the facts that Polish foreign policy towards Russia is largely dictated from London and Washington, everything falls into place.

I'll take a look....

Meanwhile, Poland complained to WTO about Russian counter-sanctions to Polish sanctions. Anyone sees hypocrisy here? Time for Russia to leave WTO.
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/08/19/poland/

I think the image at the bottom shows how good effects it has on the Russian economy.


I read in all the news that the government is trying to monitor prices in Moscow , Crimea and a few major cities.
Apart from the fact that this along with a so called "reinforcement" resembles a your know what measures , is there a way to find out what where the prices at the beginning of the year and how they are trending now ?

Medvedev says that he views positively the effect sanctions have on Russian economy:
http://top.rbc.ru/economics/18/08/2014/943536.shtml

Meanwhile, Russia discovered attempts at re-export from Belarus of the embargoed goods:
http://1prime.ru/consumer_markets/20140818/790308076.html

However, Trade Union countries can export to Russia processes goods, where the embargoed raw materials are used, so Belarus and Kazahstan stand potentially to win:
http://www.interfax.ru/business/391973


Why from Europe? Argentina has good stock, so do other non-hostile countries.


Primarily it was done because Russian domestic agriculture was systematically destroyed during the 90's (in Belarus, all the fields are used and in good condition), and US/Europe had a hand in it, pushing the Yeltsin government to trade more, produce less policy. A strong incentive is now needed to revive the agricultural sector.

How long will that take?

Cows reach maturity after at least 9 moths but most at 12 , add this to the gestation period so it will take two years just to have ready the new cows to enlarge the herds. add the same period to start producing extra meat.

Of course , the farmers could buy those cows....from europe who will have plenty;).

The reason russia was importing food from europe was because it was cheaper the hike will be reflected in the people wallets.
Along with the 3% new sale tax that will be added next year.
And with the 6% yearly inflation.

#1. Germany
#2. France
#3. UK
#4. Italy
#5. The Netherlands (in that order).

These republics are not doing that bad. But it is the Mediterranean republics who are suffering (Greece, Cyprus, Spain, Portugal.etc). Money which previously went to these nations (from the donor nations) are being diverted to the New EU nations, such as Romania and Bulgaria.

I hope not, too.

However, I do believe that EU stands to lose more if this kindergarten bantering of sanctions, counter-sanctions and counter-counter-sanctions continues. I would have given a different prognosis 6-7 years ago, when European economy was much stronger, but not now. Even though Russian economy saw only a moderate, if any, improvement, European economy has been on a steady downward trend. The problem is the same as in USSR, where there were only a few donor republics, with the rest living off of them. Once donor republic's excess capacity is used up, the system is in a dangerous state. In EU, such donor republics are Germany and France, and they are at the breaking point trying to sustain the union.

I wasn't talking about you specifically but you did think and wrote that this might led the EU to ruin.
I don't think so and I doubt that even turning off all trades with russia might inflict such a serious damage to the union.

Time will tell if any of us is right but I do hope we won't have to pick a winner.

Don't count me as hater. I like the general idea of EU (while watching it from a country that voted twice against joining the EU), but I also see its flaws, which systemically remind of the flaws of USSR.

As you yourself pointed out to me with regard to your attitude towards Russia, criticizing does not mean hating.