Topic: Sanctions left and right, Can the Russian economy survive? - page 4. (Read 1033 times)

Before Russia decided to go to war with Ukraine, Russia must have taken into account the effects it would have on their country. Since Russia is
a big country and has experienced leaders, I'm sure they will prepare everything, I believe Russia will be able to overcome the economic
problems caused by the war with Ukraine. Besides Russia being able to take advantage of its natural resources, Russia has also collaborated with
several countries to help their economy. One of them is China, which has long had good relations with Russia, even though China and Russia are
not formally allied. But they have the same goal of wanting to resist pressure from America and NATO. So I agree with you that Russia can overcome
the economic problems caused by getting sanctions from America and NATO. Therefore Russia did not stop the war even though it was threatened
with sanctions, because Russia is pretty sure they can overcome the economic problems that will result from getting sanctions.

Main harm that is made by sanctions are hundred thousand, if not a million of unemployed people. People who worked with import and foreign companies. I am sure that Russian economy could handle with inflation, and lack of goods from abroad. China will help them with it, all they need to do right now is to solve logistics issues. But the huge amount of unemployed will be real problem. Without work, people start to become dumb. Uneducated, dumb crowd is uncontrolled and dangerous.

Russia is prepared for this, those sanctions are expected but seriously this can still affect their economy and you can see that on their stock market, many are selling because they know what’s coming. You can also see their central bank on a big shock, and forced them to increase the rate instantly which you can say that, its already the start of economic crisis. Creating war may not be a problem, but expect the inflation to rise in Russia even if they have a good partner with China.

Anyone who have been watching news for the past 10 years or so while checking social media knows about this. We have been fed lies for decades and decades but we did not know about it. Today we know about it because we can see the real news online in social media. People share the real footage, real situations all on social media and this is why the news you see on TV stations are obviously lie to us now.

The USA has lied to its citizens and the world for decades, literally near 100 years by now, and Russia has done the same thing at least as long, Europe is famously known about lies on other nations. It is normal for us who live in none of these places because they have lied about us at least once, all of them. Now they are doing it to each other.

There are dump soldiers from both sides - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G-n7fdYp_g. You get this from mass media, and they know how to manipulate with opinion. You can search for Russian propaganda and find similar bloopers from Ukrainian army. I can just say that in media war Russia is loosing badly.

I believe that smart people does not participate in war, dont fight. Smart people can solve everything with negotiations. And what we see right now are pawn, that pointlessly and without initiative doing orders like go there, shoot there.

"2 Russian generals". This is not the first time high ranked army serviceman are being killed. There is a rumor, that someone is cleaning this "high management" on purpose to perform takeover authorities.

Yes I believe also that Russia can still survive despite of left and right sanctions. Russia has an oil resources that also affects every nation's economy today, we're not directly affected by the war but the economic crisis that this war brought to us has been felt by the oil price hike and inflation. Also, did we forget that Russia may not have western countries but it has a strong ally on their side which can also be known as a strong and wealthy country which is China, so I believe Russia can still survive.

I think Russia will survived with all the sanctions around them, we haven't seen any countries fully drained just because the West and it's allies put a embargo on them. But there will be outside help like China which has a close ties with Russia for many years now and they have one common enemy which is US. US though is pressuring China in this case, but China doesn't care, I mean if US wants to sanction them, so be it. History will judge which is really the aggressor or who provokes this kind of friction globally.

Before the start of the war, President Putin had a meeting with President Xi Jinping during the opening ceremony of the 2022 Beijing Winter Olympics. The two men discussed bilateral issues and international strategic security. The two sides have called the partnership "unlimited". Showed that they were prepared for all possible scenarios and the closeness of the two sides. The Russians will not perish from sanctions, but recovery and growth will require the help of the Asian giants.

I think these sanctions would have been introduced sooner or later, it was a matter of time. Any reason would lead to sanctions, they would just not be so massive. I think Russia will withstand such sanctions, but it will be very painful, and ordinary people will suffer first of all. And most likely there will be new sanctions, this cannot be avoided.

It's probable that Russian planners really thought Ukrainian people will want to join Russia and if they manage to defeat border guards and first wave of Ukrainian defense the rest of the soldiers will run away or surrender and so will the government. Sending cannon fodder seemed like a good decision because trained soldiers were more valuable and if the offensive went easy conscripts would gain some experience and confidence. They thought the invasion will be like military training in real field. Such hubris!

Well if Putin really did plan ahead every step of the way, then he sure did a pretty bad job of it. Also, not Putin is planning to ban foreign firms that don't return by 1st May?
Russia to propose 10-year ban on foreign firms which don't return by May 1 Moreover Russia is seizing the property of the firms that are leaving.

And this ban is like sanctioning their own economy in a way lol. What good will that do? This move doesn't seem very "planned out", more like trying to take everything with him while going out. The ruble is already suffering a lot, so much so that there was a video recently of a man just throwing out rubles in a supermarket, because the currency is kinda worthless. The general people of Russia are suffering and most of them don't even want Putin/support the war.


Russia also does have a compulsory military draft, so I guess that plays a role in this too. I've seen sources say that quite a large part of the youth that are drafted are hardly trained. Not to mention that a lot of the "first-invading army" didn't even know that they were supposedly attacking Ukraine until they got there. I guess they were pretty confused too.

Sure, the attack was so well planned that they run out of fuel half way into Kiev. They also planned so well that they sent a special forces unit alone into town hoping they'd do some damage, but the unit was completely destroyed before they even reached the city. It takes years to train special forces and they were sent to their deaths. Couldn't do any damage.
I'm also sure smart Putin expected that Turkish drones will do so much damage that his soldiers will start shooting themselves in the legs just to be able to leave Ukraine. Yes, that's real. They are looking for Ukrainian weapons so that they can shoot themselves with their ammo and go to a hospital.

Smart Russians also brought an encrypted field communication system but it doesn't work and they're calling each other using normal phones to relay orders. The Ukrainian forces triangulated some of these calls and attacked the locations killing a few commanders, including 2 Russian generals.

Say what you want but Russians have to be the dumbest army in the world. There's even an interview on youtube with Ukrainian soldiers who say that Russians are dumb. They held a village for a few days and Ukrainians put anti tank mines on the road out of the village and kept shooting at Russians for days to make them leave. One day Russians packed up all their tanks and decided to take the road where the mines were.

In one town Russian tank run out of fuel so the crew went from door to door asking for fuel. They even went to a police station where they got themselves disarmed and arrested

Of course, the Russian government provided for these sanctions because they received them both in 2008 and in 2014, but then these sanctions were not so large-scale, so now there is such a problem with the economy.  Honestly, I did not expect such actions from the whole world, everything turned out to be very large-scale. I think Russia will withstand this blow, but everything will not be the same as before.  Much will change within the country. All the negative consequences will fall on ordinary people, and I'm not happy about this.

Despite all the sanctions, I believe that Russia will still be able to survive their economy and after this war, other countries will still help them rise again. It's just that some countries don't want to intervene. Russia is well prepared for the possibilities and consequences of their invasion so I'm sure that they're firm enough to survive this crisis.

Nice analyzation you got there.

Indeed, Putin really did plan all of his actions he executed and is executing right now. The Russian's president is intelligent enough to foresee the things before it actually happen. Everything the military are instructed to do are definitely well-planned and thought of. For sure, they also did see coming the sanctions that will be imposed upon them once they invaded Ukraine, hence, has prepared for it also.

Cryptocurrency can be their way to evade the sanctions given to them by most countries. Despite their bank accounts being frozen, the higher ups, most especially those who are in favor of the war, already prepared their funds in various platforms such as in crypto, so they could access it despite the restrictions. This is just so unfortunate for those who are innocent because they are also at the scope of the sanctions, despite not wanting to be involved. After all, the sanction is applicable to everyone in Russia.

Countries are afraid of being involved in the Russia-Ukraine conflict because being involved means siding to the other. Which could trigger the aggressiveness of Russia that could possibly lead to a bigger war. Hence, most countries just choose to extend their help in subtle ways possible.

No, i do still doubt that they would be making out decision on replacing their fiat for making bitcoin as a legal tender which is next on what El Salvador did which for them to save up their ass.
Putin had already anticipated for this thing to happen but pretty sure that he do knows on how to handle up the situation even though it is hard but we are currently seeing
on how they are handling up the situation when it comes to economic issues.

This is the worst part of this, I am pretty sure a great deal of the Russian citizens do not want this war but now they have to suffer the same consequences as those that wanted the war, and if we are honest the ones that caused this war, like Putin, are not really suffering at all, after all even if some of his accounts are frozen and he losses billions he still has a lot of money staked somewhere and he can always get more of it whenever he wants, so all of those sanctions are not doing much to him on a personal level.

Sanctions left and right made Russia hard to recover from this war but knowing how huge this country and how capable they are, i think Russians will still be able to survive and recover from all these sanctions. However, with these different sanctions, Russians will find it hard to live a normal life after this war but with the help of China, things will slowly recover until all the damages from this war will only be part of history.

Putin foresaw this and had to legalize crypto as a legal tender. If putin decided to base on their fiat to keep Russian economy going then the sanctions would have had really strong effect on their economy seeing how much the Russian Ruble keeps depreciating against every other currency. If there should be a country that should embrace the sweet benefits of decentralization at the moment it should be Russians 

The cost of wars is very high and for Russia it will be even higher. The country has not diversified its economy, the sanctions will keep the nation isolated from economic partners. The panorama is very sad, conflicts of this nature leave traces and poverty.
We have seen in the news that there were Russian citizens who did not want this war, I think that nobody wants the war, only a few who believe that things are solved by force.
In the end, all that remains is to rebuild and it will take time, what was lost in an instant will take decades to be rebuilt.