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i did not remember calling you a bot and i did not have any notes which i made for the bots.
maybe it was a missunderstanding(i remember sitouations where i talked about bots and people who are no bots think i talk about them)
or maybe i made a false accusation because some things looked suspicious. but i only talked with the admin about peope where not only me but some players think they are bots and asked for a ban. the admin in fact banned one while the owner seemed to play the account at this time and was talking the same shit like the other bot accounts when i exposed them on chat for beeing a bot.

so if he thinks a bot owner whould not watch the chat and react if somebody calls one of his bots a bot, then i dont understand why he banned the bot that day...

but as i said before it seems like the bots are gone now and thats all i want! so the 'holy crusade' was a success!!!!!
if the admin still thinks im the owner and does not see that this makes no sense at all i can not change that.  
but i can make a new account and continue crush the bot free tables now

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I understand where you're coming from. But as someone who's made the same mistake you did... I learned. It costs way more than it's worth.

No matter what your service is, or how good it is, people will *always* flame and bash it. Even when they are customers. It doesn't really make sense, but for whatever reason people do that. I actually got a rating of a book I wrote a few years back where the person praised me, said it had everything he wanted and more, and was perfect, and then he docked every one of the ratings to 1 star. A few people gave 1 star and flamed me because it didn't have what they were looking for (a good analogy for the situation is you buying Fishing Weekly and getting pissed off because it doesn't have wedding planning tips for Paris).

You just get used to it after a while, :p.

There are no "house bots" being used at Satoshi Poker.

Even if we wanted to, we have enough feature requests and improvements to keep us busy for a year.

Satoshi Poker has never and will NEVER use in-house bots.

There are MANY players complaining about this certain individual on our site.

We have already said we are going to take a look at the problem, but instead he continues bashing us publicly when we have done nothing but give him easy games and a fair & honest environment to play in.

Regardless your points are duly noted, and we will try to lighten our approach with inflammatory customers. But please don't ask us to forgive public defamation and libel. Saying "we don't care" about the bots in our site is false, and goes against what we has already promised.

We have a pretty good track record of keeping our promises.

I've gotta say... that seems pretty unprofessional to me. The way the site (anyone who represents them is essentially acting on behalf of the site) treats people, regardless of the reason, is just not right. The only other businesses I've seen do that have failed as a result.

You never argue with customers. If they are in the wrong and for whatever reason can't see that, just leave it be.

wow lots o drama going on here.

To be fair to both sides, my sn on satoshi is sootedtho. Just the other day ibetufold accused me and another player of being bots because we both sat out at the same time. (coincidence) I can understand his vigilance in the whole bot issue but dont call out every player on the site:) The bots are very exploitable so let them stay imo. They mostly just sit out in my experience so just gotta outlast them.

On the other hand, if in fact satoshi is using house bots (no opinion either way) that is not only unethical but probably in violation of some rules:)  I understand that u all are losing btc's per day but i hope there are no house bots to try and get some of that back. Also i have never seen a rep. for a company flame so hard on a customer, especially a customer that plays so much.

Anyway i hope this all gets sorted out so both parties feel comfortable in the future. Satoshi poker is my favorite btc site atm and i want to see continued success!!! great software, instant cashouts and perhaps extremely exploitable bots....whats not to love.

Oh and i am very interested in promoting satoshi poker as much as possible to gain a deeper players pool

Just entered the hourly 1K GTD while playing the last hour freeroll that a message came in regarding the closing of the freeroll table and then both tables (freeroll+1kGTD) got closed down. It was a few minutes after hourty GTD been started. What happned???

+1000
Why he would asking for HM2 if HM2 can bust his bot ??


I dont thinks bitcoinflush run bot, same for ibetyoufold
But i'm 100% they're some bot on SP !
When you are SB and you fold  vs BB sitout 6 times in a row...
When you are sitout for 15min but magically wake up with top5... and sitout a second after playing the monster...

I wait for them in cashgame, but look like they dont want play me haha

well you can talk as much shit as you want and spread as much lies as you want but when bots are now gone its perfect and exactly what i want.  the funny thing is you only comment things where you just flame me or give comments which are nonsense... for example you say that the long sessions look like im a bot but when i told you that 7Drag0ns is a bot and is always online you said that the long sessions are normal for some players... you say i use them for testing but tell you to bann them a couple of times? wtf... and if they are my bots i whould not need hm to see how they play because then i whould know how i programmed them...hm whould be bad for me because people could see easy who is a bot and who not...

Just did one of your freerolls. User interface has an overly busy feel to it, but worx.

I sent you a pm regarding this!

What was the problem with those nice 500GTD 2-hourly super turbo MTTs? They have had approximately the same population of participants at least in high traffic times of the day.
I remember BitcoinFlush, after a pm I sent you in mid May to ask about placing some hourly GTDs, I offered (only my polite idea) you to put a 8 to 10 buy-ins GTD hourly (8 was the seals model the early days) and only increase the GTD prize if the traffic responds positively (like what seals did to increase from 8 to 10 after traffic popped up). But you did reversely putting 20 buy-ins GTDs and four kind of MTTs hourly (or 2 hourly...) and then predictably had to lower them to one GTD with 10 buy-ins GTD prize. Don't you think this has a declining psychological effect on players and traffic as well? You make them expecting too much and then...
With all due respect, these are only my ideas, I love SatoshiPoker, and I think a better step by step game progress and traffic analysis will guarantee a more promising future for this poker room, instead of a hasty zig-zag action- reaction that only burns your company capital and also makes people bold and audacious to want so much and criticize even more. ( I ll be out of that nonsense bot discussion for sure)
To conclude and return back to the first, those 500 GTD super turbo were much better an option for hourly MTTs (with 55s buy-ins and may better with 1500 stack to become turbo instead of 300 stack super turbo but again with the same 3min levels). Current 1K GTDs hourly structure makes it taking  60 to 80 min to be completed each and running into each other usually. A 500 GTD turbo (1500, 3mins) has two benefits, firstly MTTs conclude within that hour and this place some free time in between for players to catch and play some cash games (current 1K GTD will almost kill any cash action at least at the 2 or 3 months coming),  Secondly lower 500 GTD (55 buy-in) will be a better option and possibility for bankroll building than the current 22 turbos that are often empty and cancelled.  You can put regular 8 or 10 min levels 1500 (or even 3000) stack GTD MTTs on daily or weekly time basis (like that nice nightly 1BTC GTD) in future when traffic demands it.
PS: I think if you have the ambition to place yourself among the leading poker rooms in the industry (like Pokerstars for example), it will be necessary (and better to be done as soon as possible) to create a mailing list to inform to the players-members of your site about new announcements, promotions and changes via email service and also provide them the option to communicate with you as the support service through their email as well. (I personally do not like forum type of conversation much and guess many poker players do not as well)

We are seriously looking into this now. We have to find a solution to keep people like this away from our site. Next time they probably won't be programmed that bad...

I'm not sure exactly what criteria to look for, but many bigger sites have done ban waves on botters in the past (they do it in waves so you won't be able to keep up with WHEN you were flagged, making it harder to determine what it is that flagged you). May be worth trying to think of some analytical way to determine a bot from a player.

what is your nick there? if i called you bot i have notes about that and cann tell everybody why i think so.

well here is the first video

just look at that and youll see that this is not normal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6epTjimaL4o

ill add comments tomorrow

only some words now.

iam ibetyoufold and all other player seem to be bots. one is called to look like its mine(iraiseyoufold) if they where my bots why should i do that? and why should i capture that to show it other players?

as you can see its a 1k guaranteed with 110 chips buyin. there are 5 of 7 player on sitout, suddenly during game most of them reappear with some seconds delay.

at 6-7min bot called number... seems to have a bug. it reappears to wait till timebank is over and and do it again and again and again
look at the time people need when they fold its always the same, if they call or bet it takes longer.

they all fold 90% on min bet, never 3bet, sometimes they open shove at early stage of the tournament like an idiot. if they do that they have a monster.

if handyhsitory whould be hm2 compatible you whould see that their stats are exactly the same.

the first three tournaments today i played all headsup (only one opponent was regged) and for all three tournaments the opponent was sitout the whole game. just an idiot or buggy bot?

yesterday i saw 2 bots headsup for hours on sitout.

sometimes on cash table some bots play against each other and for over 30mins no flop is shown becaus they raise and fold before that and are waiting for an victim i guess.

at least the half of the player pool are bots thats a fact and admin do not want to change that why?
 now he kicked me but i guess he did not kicked the bots...

more tomorrow

I'm one of the people you have called out as a "bot". Sometimes people just don't like talking back to strangers, especially when they are being accused of something they barely know anything about.

Because not everyone is an experienced botter you know  ...

1)well i accused only player who are bots and the real player here know that.

2) i  attacked you because i think your in connection with the bot owner.  and i did not say ill destroy you i say ill make it public what i will do now.seems like i was right. becaus it only makes sense if the bots are housebots why whould somebody let 7 bots play in a 9 player tourney (1k guarenteed 110chips buyin) if they are not housebots? i think you do that to mimimize your lost.

3) im sick at home so i had enough time to play today

4) i expose them and ill upload all videos here to proof that im right and your lying.

5) i never try to hide that i used shanky years ago, to see how such bots work before that i did not believe it was possible.

why should i use such bad programmed bots which loose money? why should i beat my own bots? why should i flame them when they are my bots and tell all people on chat how they can beat them and that a want them banned? and ask you a couple of times to ban them?

man your crazy...


people telling you for days who are bots and what do you do? nothing
i even saw you today on cashgame table with some of people who are accused for being somtimes played by bots.

i have all of that captured an will upload it asap with comments so everybody can see what is really going on.



im was helping you all the time with hm issues etc. tell you about the mulitaccounts which you banned after that. try to fight the bots

and this is how you treat your customers...