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January 12, 2025, 11:46:50 PM
Yesterday Al Ittihad was unable to get the full 3 points against Al Feiha. In fact, Al Ittihad almost lost this match, because in the final minutes of the match Al Ittihad actually conceded. Maybe if after that the Al Ittihad players had not made a quick counterattack and scored an equalizer, it is certain that in that match Al Ittihad would have lost to Al Feiha. In this match, Benzema and his teammates were unable to take full advantage of the opportunities they created. Even though Al Ittihad had a lot of opportunities in this match. Because in the 90 minutes of the match Al Ittihad really dominated the game very well. But because Al Ittihad's front line did not play well in this match, in the end the opportunity created was wasted.

Maybe one of the reasons Al Ittihad's front line was a little dull in this match was due to Mousa Diaby who did not play due to injury. Because usually Mousa Diaby is always able to provide very accurate crosses into the opponent's defense area and this is always a golden opportunity for Al Ittihad. But in this match there was no player who could replace his role. For this reason, for next week's match, Al Ittihad is really in big trouble. Because currently not only Mousa Diaby is injured, but Steven Bergwijn, who plays on the left wing, is also injured at the moment. So with this, it is very likely that Al Ittihad will have difficulty winning the match again.
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January 12, 2025, 10:59:34 PM
Without Ronaldo and Mane, I'm sure Al Nassr will be difficult to compete for the top 5 in SPL. Sure, they were strong but they need stronger now. It is because all big teams in SPL already became stronger, too. Nowadays, Ronaldo and Mane become the mainstay players of this team. I even think Al Nassr too relies on them. This is actually not good, Al Nassr will suddenly be a weak team if Ronaldo and Mane are injured. Or when Ronaldo and Mane can't perform with their best shape. Anyway, winning SPL title isn't easy. Even Ronaldo and Mane joins Al Nassr, they still can't win the title. It is a team game, the whole team must be stronger (not only the attacking line).

However, Ronaldo and Mane has contributed a lot for Al Nassr. It simply can be seen from their stats.


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From the statistics, it is obvious that both players have contributed greatly to the top position the club always occupies. With the quality of players in the club, they should have at least won the League for once. But they have failed to do that and are now in the third position with 28 points. We should also add Anderson Talisca to the list of players who have contributed to Al Nassr, the Brazilians have also scored a high number of goals.      
Actually, I think players cannot be a benchmark that they can get a title, because this is a team game which means all players must be able to make a big contribution or they can have solid strength in all positions.

Yes, I think Al Nassr team is quite strong in the attack department, because Cristiano Ronaldo and Sadio Mane are two experienced players and they can design any attack at any time and succeed in it. But I think the biggest weakness of Al Nassr team is revealed in the defenders, because relying on only one or two players can never guarantee a team's victory.
The responsibility falls on the whole team, but if Al Nassr defenders change the weakness very quickly, then the most needed experienced defender will be Al Nassr team will be able to give good results to the fans at any moment.
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January 12, 2025, 10:47:43 PM
I'm wondering how Al Nassr would play if they didn't have Mane and Ronaldo on this team. Checking the history of Al Nassr they had a strong team that even before Ronaldo and they won the Saudi League title but now I'm sure without players like Ronaldo and Mane they are nothing and they can't have good performances. We saw in the game against Al Akhdoud that these two players scored goals for this team.
I can't understand if Al Nassr won the title of Saudi Arabia without Ronaldo in this team before and how they can't win the title again with Ronaldo and many other players in the team like Mane.
Without Ronaldo and Mane, I'm sure Al Nassr will be difficult to compete for the top 5 in SPL. Sure, they were strong but they need stronger now. It is because all big teams in SPL already became stronger, too. Nowadays, Ronaldo and Mane become the mainstay players of this team. I even think Al Nassr too relies on them. This is actually not good, Al Nassr will suddenly be a weak team if Ronaldo and Mane are injured. Or when Ronaldo and Mane can't perform with their best shape. Anyway, winning SPL title isn't easy. Even Ronaldo and Mane joins Al Nassr, they still can't win the title. It is a team game, the whole team must be stronger (not only the attacking line).

However, Ronaldo and Mane has contributed a lot for Al Nassr. It simply can be seen from their stats.


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It's true that without Mane and Cristiano Ronaldo of course it's not certain that Al Nassr will finish in its current position, namely 3rd, but fortunately Al Nassr still has Mane and Cristiano Ronaldo and indeed they both can be relied on to make Al Nassr's attacks good. but yes, if only Talisca was still at Al Nassr, maybe Talisca, Mane and Cristiano Ronaldo would be Al Nassr's mainstay players at this time, but yes, considering that Talisca left Al Nassr and joined Fenerbache, of course this will definitely make Al Nassr players have to work together more all well.

It is true that if Al Nassr only relied on Mane and Ronaldo, this would not be a good thing because it could be that one day Al Nassr's performance will decline if all the players only rely on Ronaldo and Mane, this is not a good thing and it certainly could be Al Nassr. will drop further in ranking but sometimes I also always imagine that but yes, hopefully Pioli can make Al Nassr have a strong strength and they can work together well even though for example Ronaldo and Mane are not there or their performance is declining.

If you look at their statistics, it is truly extraordinary and of course Mane and Ronaldo have been very instrumental. But honestly, I'm happy because now Al Nassr can replace Al Qadisiyah and I hope that at the end of the season the competition will get tighter between Al Nassr, Ittihad and Al Hilal.
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January 12, 2025, 05:49:33 PM
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If the management wants to charge the coach, then first they should hire decent players and then if the team still doesn't have good results, then they can fire the coach.
Well, this is what I mean that all of this is actually not a problem of the coach but the management who should realize that they need more qualified players to be able to compete with bigger teams. While firing the coach is just a temporary diversion and the result will be the same. I am very sure that if Ettifaq wants to be active in the transfer market, at least they can bring in European players who have better quality and have better experience to help Ettifaq improve its performance slowly. And all of that goes back to the team management.
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January 12, 2025, 03:34:53 PM
in essence the balance of players that Al currently has is not good. Because if we look at the front line, Al Nasr currently has quite good players like Ronaldo and Mane. But in the midfield and at the back, Al Nasr really doesn't have players they can rely on. For this reason, this season Al Nasr was unable to get maximum results in every match. This was the main trigger because the defense and midfield were not good. So Al Nasr really has to carry out changes on a fairly large scale to make his team even better. Because if Al Nasr doesn't immediately improve the squad it currently has, I'm sure Al Nasr will only be able to finish in 3rd or 4th position in the Saudi Arabian league. The problem is that if, for example, Al Nasr does not overhaul its players on a large scale, Pioli as the coach will not be able to develop his strategy to the maximum.
Al Nassr attack is always good and competitive but their defense and midfield always lack of creativity which hurt them badly through now changes are happening to they are working on few players for having them which will surely increase their depth in defense while midfield is also looking for better players.

Stefano Pioli surely understand this situation as if they want to win trophies and having better results surely they needed to be had balanced side now competitiveness is increasing, and they are going for more challenges which need better preparation from them as well.

In this season, now difference of 9 points looking big but if they will prepare for next season things could be better and well balances which will help them for having top spot in league table with trophies as well.
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January 12, 2025, 11:28:22 AM
Actually, I think players cannot be a benchmark that they can get a title, because this is a team game which means all players must be able to make a big contribution or they can have solid strength in all positions. Speaking of Al Nassr, their front line is good, but if we look at the previous seasons they had problems in the back line which was quite easy to penetrate. So once again this can not only be done by a few players, but all players as a whole and if we relate it to these 2 players, then these 2 players cannot immediately give a title, because once again this is a team.
Ronaldo and Mané have played in Europe and they totally understand the pressure and knows how to handle them. Al Nassr are not in the best form to compete with Al Hilal that happen to be the best team in Saudi Arabia Pro League. They've similar comparison because both clubs have been in touch for upgrade. Al Nassr suffered from weaknesses which can be openly spotted out by oppositions. Al Nassr are fixed at the moment and we know the desiring motions of exploring these atmosphere with winnings. Al Nassr have outstanding players, players that carries the team's burden on their shoulders. We're referring to patriotic players, they've ambition to accomplish and that alone seized them up to opportunities of bettering the club.
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January 12, 2025, 11:14:25 AM
The presence of Cristiano Ronaldo and Sadio Mane in the Al Nassr team I think is one of the major reasons they're being considered a strong contender for the trophies in Saudi Arabia. Apart from the fact that they're known global superstars, they also help bring their leadership qualities to the team thereby improving the mentality of the other members of the squad.
Since he signed for Al Nassr, no player have scored more goals for any Saudi Pro League club than Cristiano Ronaldo have managed so it's safe to say that he's the most influential footballer in the Saudi Pro League in the last three seasons so yes, Al Nassr will definitely suffer without the presence of Cristiano Ronaldo and Sadio Mane.

Actually, the difficulties that will be experienced are also related to the developments experienced by other teams in the Saudi Pro League. Ronaldo and Mane helped Al Nassr in catching up with the gap they experienced with strong teams such as Al Hilal and Al Ittihad.
The presence of Ronaldo and Mane is also an ambition to win the league, but so far they have not been able to get it. So they have to use a bigger way to be able to defeat the dominance of Al Hilal and Al Ittihad.
If he can finish it easily, it will not hurt anyone and it will keep the Saudi League running smoothly.   Even so, if someone can get hurt, it will be only our opinion, but if something like this happens, it will reduce the points of the teams, but it will not harm the league.  Ronaldo and Mane are very good and powerful players but they are not winning the league due to pressure and hard work of other players.  If they had such a way, they would definitely use it, whatever they thought of it.
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January 12, 2025, 10:34:50 AM
What a silly modern way to only see the benchmark or the statistic of a player, they are important? , yes for sure is an easy way to meassure what they are doing and how are they developing but is more juice about tha work they do in the pitch, for example in this case, maybe Mane didnt give the assist or score the goal but he can be the player who starts the play dribling two players, or giving the pass before the assist etc.
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January 12, 2025, 10:19:55 AM
Without Ronaldo and Mane, I'm sure Al Nassr will be difficult to compete for the top 5 in SPL. Sure, they were strong but they need stronger now. It is because all big teams in SPL already became stronger, too. Nowadays, Ronaldo and Mane become the mainstay players of this team. I even think Al Nassr too relies on them. This is actually not good, Al Nassr will suddenly be a weak team if Ronaldo and Mane are injured. Or when Ronaldo and Mane can't perform with their best shape. Anyway, winning SPL title isn't easy. Even Ronaldo and Mane joins Al Nassr, they still can't win the title. It is a team game, the whole team must be stronger (not only the attacking line).

However, Ronaldo and Mane has contributed a lot for Al Nassr. It simply can be seen from their stats.


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From the statistics, it is obvious that both players have contributed greatly to the top position the club always occupies. With the quality of players in the club, they should have at least won the League for once. But they have failed to do that and are now in the third position with 28 points. We should also add Anderson Talisca to the list of players who have contributed to Al Nassr, the Brazilians have also scored a high number of goals.     
Actually, I think players cannot be a benchmark that they can get a title, because this is a team game which means all players must be able to make a big contribution or they can have solid strength in all positions. Speaking of Al Nassr, their front line is good, but if we look at the previous seasons they had problems in the back line which was quite easy to penetrate. So once again this can not only be done by a few players, but all players as a whole and if we relate it to these 2 players, then these 2 players cannot immediately give a title, because once again this is a team.
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January 12, 2025, 08:37:44 AM
Without Ronaldo and Mane, I'm sure Al Nassr will be difficult to compete for the top 5 in SPL. Sure, they were strong but they need stronger now. It is because all big teams in SPL already became stronger, too. Nowadays, Ronaldo and Mane become the mainstay players of this team. I even think Al Nassr too relies on them. This is actually not good, Al Nassr will suddenly be a weak team if Ronaldo and Mane are injured. Or when Ronaldo and Mane can't perform with their best shape. Anyway, winning SPL title isn't easy. Even Ronaldo and Mane joins Al Nassr, they still can't win the title. It is a team game, the whole team must be stronger (not only the attacking line).

However, Ronaldo and Mane has contributed a lot for Al Nassr. It simply can be seen from their stats.


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From the statistics, it is obvious that both players have contributed greatly to the top position the club always occupies. With the quality of players in the club, they should have at least won the League for once. But they have failed to do that and are now in the third position with 28 points. We should also add Anderson Talisca to the list of players who have contributed to Al Nassr, the Brazilians have also scored a high number of goals.     
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January 12, 2025, 07:50:52 AM
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Despite good investments Al Ettifaq fail to bring better results in last two season we have big dropped into their performance Steve Gerrard fail to have any impact on this club maybe this could be his last season here as coach.
Despite Steven Gerrard's best efforts, Al Ettifaq will not get better results. The reason is quite simple that Al Ettifaq cannot bring in quality players to compete with other top teams.
So if this is the last season for Steven Gerrard and he is fired, I am sure the management does not know the weaknesses of their own team and chooses to fire the coach on the grounds that they have not received any improvement.

I agree with you about the part about management, it wouldn't make any sense to fire Gerard since this team only has 7 foreign players and they are not very skilled or famous players, just look at:

1 - Marek Rodák (foreign player who is not famous, does not have great skills)

2 - Jack Hendry (foreign player who is not famous, does not have great skills)

3 - João Costa (foreign player who is not famous, does not have great skills)

4 - Vitinho (foreign player who is not famous, does not have great skills)

5 - Georginio Wijnaldum (foreign player who is not famous, does not have great skills)

6 - Demarai Gray (foreign player who is not famous, does not have great skills)

7 -
Moussa Dembélé (foreign player who is not famous, does not have great skills)

If the management wants to charge the coach, then first they should hire decent players and then if the team still doesn't have good results, then they can fire the coach.
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January 12, 2025, 07:44:36 AM
The presence of Cristiano Ronaldo and Sadio Mane in the Al Nassr team I think is one of the major reasons they're being considered a strong contender for the trophies in Saudi Arabia. Apart from the fact that they're known global superstars, they also help bring their leadership qualities to the team thereby improving the mentality of the other members of the squad.
Since he signed for Al Nassr, no player have scored more goals for any Saudi Pro League club than Cristiano Ronaldo have managed so it's safe to say that he's the most influential footballer in the Saudi Pro League in the last three seasons so yes, Al Nassr will definitely suffer without the presence of Cristiano Ronaldo and Sadio Mane.

Actually, the difficulties that will be experienced are also related to the developments experienced by other teams in the Saudi Pro League. Ronaldo and Mane helped Al Nassr in catching up with the gap they experienced with strong teams such as Al Hilal and Al Ittihad.
The presence of Ronaldo and Mane is also an ambition to win the league, but so far they have not been able to get it. So they have to use a bigger way to be able to defeat the dominance of Al Hilal and Al Ittihad.
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January 12, 2025, 07:37:30 AM
Without Ronaldo and Mane, I'm sure Al Nassr will be difficult to compete for the top 5 in SPL. Sure, they were strong but they need stronger now. It is because all big teams in SPL already became stronger, too. Nowadays, Ronaldo and Mane become the mainstay players of this team. I even think Al Nassr too relies on them. This is actually not good, Al Nassr will suddenly be a weak team if Ronaldo and Mane are injured. Or when Ronaldo and Mane can't perform with their best shape. Anyway, winning SPL title isn't easy. Even Ronaldo and Mane joins Al Nassr, they still can't win the title. It is a team game, the whole team must be stronger (not only the attacking line).

However, Ronaldo and Mane has contributed a lot for Al Nassr. It simply can be seen from their stats.


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The presence of Cristiano Ronaldo and Sadio Mane in the Al Nassr team I think is one of the major reasons they're being considered a strong contender for the trophies in Saudi Arabia. Apart from the fact that they're known global superstars, they also help bring their leadership qualities to the team thereby improving the mentality of the other members of the squad.
Since he signed for Al Nassr, no player have scored more goals for any Saudi Pro League club than Cristiano Ronaldo have managed so it's safe to say that he's the most influential footballer in the Saudi Pro League in the last three seasons so yes, Al Nassr will definitely suffer without the presence of Cristiano Ronaldo and Sadio Mane.
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January 12, 2025, 07:25:50 AM
I'm wondering how Al Nassr would play if they didn't have Mane and Ronaldo on this team. Checking the history of Al Nassr they had a strong team that even before Ronaldo and they won the Saudi League title but now I'm sure without players like Ronaldo and Mane they are nothing and they can't have good performances. We saw in the game against Al Akhdoud that these two players scored goals for this team.
I can't understand if Al Nassr won the title of Saudi Arabia without Ronaldo in this team before and how they can't win the title again with Ronaldo and many other players in the team like Mane.
Without Ronaldo and Mane, I'm sure Al Nassr will be difficult to compete for the top 5 in SPL. Sure, they were strong but they need stronger now. It is because all big teams in SPL already became stronger, too. Nowadays, Ronaldo and Mane become the mainstay players of this team. I even think Al Nassr too relies on them. This is actually not good, Al Nassr will suddenly be a weak team if Ronaldo and Mane are injured. Or when Ronaldo and Mane can't perform with their best shape. Anyway, winning SPL title isn't easy. Even Ronaldo and Mane joins Al Nassr, they still can't win the title. It is a team game, the whole team must be stronger (not only the attacking line).

However, Ronaldo and Mane has contributed a lot for Al Nassr. It simply can be seen from their stats.


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Ronaldo and Mane are the most important players of Al Nassr and seeing that these two players are in Al Nassr but this team is still performing well. Why would we want to exclude these two players and see them perform in the Saudi League? Considering that they will be in the regular eleven but the club have brought them to the Saudi League for such a huge amount of money. Not excluding these two players, but adding some other important players to the club along with these two players, I would like to see Al Nassr in the next season of the Saudi League. However, there are several rumors about Al Nassr buying the player. If the rumors are true then Al Nassr will no doubt be the best club in the Saudi League.
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January 12, 2025, 04:38:59 AM
A club is bigger than a single player, and Al Nassr is bigger than Cristiano Ronaldo. He joined, plays for them and will leave them, but Al Nassr will exist in a longer period than Cristiano Ronaldo.

As a club and a team, Al Nassr has to fight their matches with players and coach, not only with Cristiano Ronaldo. They win and lose their matches with Cristiano as one of their players or without him, and should never let this old super star player affects their squad negatively. With high ego of Cristiano Ronaldo, when things turn bad and exceeds his controlable ability, he will react very unfriendly, harshly and it will destroy Al Nassr internally.

Now things are good with him, and Al Nassr can look at other things like their defense weakness and try to fix it. If they can not do it, they will not be competitive enough to win Saudi Professional League.
Normally, in any other situation, I would accept this type of thinking. However, I feel like Messi is bigger than Inter Miami as a whole, and Ronaldo is bigger than Al-Nassr as a whole. I understand that it may feel like Ronaldo isn't bigger, like a team should come first than a player, but in this case this team was nothing at all and nobody cared about the entire league before Ronaldo decided to join. We didn2t really know who played there, hell half of the world didn't even know any of the teams, and yet after Ronaldo joined this league came alive. So in this rare case, we could say that Ronaldo could be bigger than the entire team.

But, I agree that everyone should pull their weight in the club, from manager to other players to other staff and even fans, everyone should give their best, Ronaldo himself alone can't make this a big deal, he isn't that great and he is old now, so he can't make them win and be champions, he needs everyone's help for it.
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January 12, 2025, 03:36:43 AM
And this week was an annoying week for Al Ittihad because they had to get a draw when facing one of the teams in the relegation zone, Al Feiha. They could only play with a score of 1-1 and that made their position shifted by Al Hilal, even though their number of points is the same, but Al Hilal is more productive. I don't know if this can be said to be lucky or not, because they also created an equalizer in the final minutes of the second half. I thought they would lose after Al Feiha created a goal in the 90th minute+, but they were able to equalize it 2 minutes later.
Previous match Al Ittihad always performed very impressively and they also managed to beat Al Hilal to get the King Cup trophy while today Al Ittihad looked very difficult against Al Feiha and were only able to equalize to 1 - 1 after Al Feiha managed to score goal first.
Without goal scored, it was clear that it could be Al Ittihad defeat with the lower team but draw although better was still result that was really beyond expectations and not as everyone had predicted.
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January 12, 2025, 01:53:13 AM
And this week was an annoying week for Al Ittihad because they had to get a draw when facing one of the teams in the relegation zone, Al Feiha. They could only play with a score of 1-1 and that made their position shifted by Al Hilal, even though their number of points is the same, but Al Hilal is more productive. I don't know if this can be said to be lucky or not, because they also created an equalizer in the final minutes of the second half. I thought they would lose after Al Feiha created a goal in the 90th minute+, but they were able to equalize it 2 minutes later.
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January 12, 2025, 12:28:12 AM
Without Ronaldo and Mane, I'm sure Al Nassr will be difficult to compete for the top 5 in SPL. Sure, they were strong but they need stronger now. It is because all big teams in SPL already became stronger, too. Nowadays, Ronaldo and Mane become the mainstay players of this team. I even think Al Nassr too relies on them. This is actually not good, Al Nassr will suddenly be a weak team if Ronaldo and Mane are injured. Or when Ronaldo and Mane can't perform with their best shape. Anyway, winning SPL title isn't easy. Even Ronaldo and Mane joins Al Nassr, they still can't win the title. It is a team game, the whole team must be stronger (not only the attacking line).

However, Ronaldo and Mane has contributed a lot for Al Nassr. It simply can be seen from their stats.


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Yes, in essence the balance of players that Al currently has is not good. Because if we look at the front line, Al Nasr currently has quite good players like Ronaldo and Mane. But in the midfield and at the back, Al Nasr really doesn't have players they can rely on. For this reason, this season Al Nasr was unable to get maximum results in every match. This was the main trigger because the defense and midfield were not good. So Al Nasr really has to carry out changes on a fairly large scale to make his team even better. Because if Al Nasr doesn't immediately improve the squad it currently has, I'm sure Al Nasr will only be able to finish in 3rd or 4th position in the Saudi Arabian league. The problem is that if, for example, Al Nasr does not overhaul its players on a large scale, Pioli as the coach will not be able to develop his strategy to the maximum.
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January 11, 2025, 09:40:53 PM
Without Ronaldo and Mane, I'm sure Al Nassr will be difficult to compete for the top 5 in SPL. Sure, they were strong but they need stronger now. It is because all big teams in SPL already became stronger, too. Nowadays, Ronaldo and Mane become the mainstay players of this team. I even think Al Nassr too relies on them. This is actually not good, Al Nassr will suddenly be a weak team if Ronaldo and Mane are injured. Or when Ronaldo and Mane can't perform with their best shape. Anyway, winning SPL title isn't easy. Even Ronaldo and Mane joins Al Nassr, they still can't win the title. It is a team game, the whole team must be stronger (not only the attacking line).

However, Ronaldo and Mane has contributed a lot for Al Nassr. It simply can be seen from their stats.


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Winning is mainstay for most of these players, they're only here to win games and lift trophies based on their topnotch profile in football. Al Nassr can actually survive without the heavy presence of keyplayers but in either ways, their presence is very compulsory and becomes valuable when the appropriate spots is hits. Cristiano Ronaldo and Sadio Mané have contributed heavily to the growth of Al Nassr all these years playing for the club. These are the best representatives of the Knights of Najd, they're outstanding in performance and will always come out ranking top base on their impressive stats. Al Nassr are lucky enough to have these players in their club. Only Ronaldo who's always ambitious, he nets goals and everyone knows how his goals tally have upgraded the level competitive performance of the club.
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January 11, 2025, 06:27:25 PM
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Despite good investments Al Ettifaq fail to bring better results in last two season we have big dropped into their performance Steve Gerrard fail to have any impact on this club maybe this could be his last season here as coach.
Despite Steven Gerrard's best efforts, Al Ettifaq will not get better results. The reason is quite simple that Al Ettifaq cannot bring in quality players to compete with other top teams.
So if this is the last season for Steven Gerrard and he is fired, I am sure the management does not know the weaknesses of their own team and chooses to fire the coach on the grounds that they have not received any improvement.
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