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Quote from: slapper on November 19, 2023, 11:16:54 AM

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What the Saudi Pro League is doing might not be the best long-term plan, I'm beginning to think. Bringing in famous players like Ronaldo and Neymar makes news and increases popularity, but what about long-term success? It's possible that relying only on star power, especially from experienced players, might not be enough to improve the team's general quality

We should think about the future, right? Your league's ability to grow and get better depends on its young, skilled players. One problem is that it's hard to get these young players to choose the SPL over well-known European teams. It's to advance their careers, win titles, and get noticed in the major levels. For the SPL to be successful in drawing this important group, they'll need to come up with something equally appealing

I think that is going to change though. Because it is rumoured that the Saudi Professional League is in talks with UEFA about including them in the Champions League competition. So if they actually get included in the Champions League competition, I think a lot more young players are going to be interested in going to the Saudi league. Especially when they see that they are offering a lot more money. But as I said, it is only a rumour. And I still don't know whether it will actually happen, and even if it does when it will happen.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 19, 2023, 07:33:16 PM

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It's not that the GOAT is the Saudi Arabian but I think Ronaldo is the GOAT in the world and regardless of his age, he can still have good performance in the time he plays for them.
We know Ronaldo had good performances when he was a younger player in Real Madrid and Manchester United but even after the age of 30, he still had good performances and Ronaldo even scored more goals after this time. He is definitely a player who can play for a longer time.

Ronaldo is a player from the previous generation really, the sport has now changed quite a bit.

For example, the many substitutions you can have, the extra time going further than 5 minutes, etc.

It's a very different game now that probably will suit a different type of player.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 19, 2023, 06:53:15 PM

Michael Emenalo, the director of football of the Saudi Pro League started talking about the players they could from top European teams and the players they are going to buy in this league soon.
We saw players like Ronaldo, Benzema, and Mane join this league but the Michael Emenalo believes they can even hire other superstar players and that's why we can even wait for players like Salah in the next transfer window.
Michael Emenalo said he supports the players they bought and he supports the teams spending huge amounts of money for these players.

Salah, Modric, De bruyne and many more have been mentioned recently. Those players have been targeting by saudi pro league. Saudi has been making preparation to buy high level players to join in the league.
It feels like that we will be seeing many top players from various league to compete in the same league. I have heard that if al nassr has been linked also with one of top player.

The club needs to push its transfer into the another level to create hype. You can imagine if there will be a club in saudi pro league who can bring modric and de bruyne together in the SPL. that would be so crazy to think about that.
I hope their target will be fully achieved. Saudi club needs to prepare a lot of money to make it happen. It will be so crazy to see a club that has many great players from the various european leagues.

Saudi pro league club has been starting to hunt those players.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 19, 2023, 07:33:16 PM

It's not that the GOAT is the Saudi Arabian but I think Ronaldo is the GOAT in the world and regardless of his age, he can still have good performance in the time he plays for them.
We know Ronaldo had good performances when he was a younger player in Real Madrid and Manchester United but even after the age of 30, he still had good performances and Ronaldo even scored more goals after this time. He is definitely a player who can play for a longer time.

There is no point in arguing about Goat the fact is Ronaldo still continues to make a record in his old age and not all players can do it even young players, we know what is happening to the Saudi Pro League at this time is the decision of Ronaldo to move first and other players follow their steps this should be enough to answer all questions Grin

In old age Ronaldo has made a new record as a top scorer in several leagues or continents, he only needs one more league to be completed, it is Bundesliga but for this one seems impossible because I think Ronaldo will end his career in Saudi Pro League.

Do you think there are other players who will overtake Ronaldo on the top score list this season? at first I thought it was Neymar but the fact was far from expectations and now Aleksandar Mitrović may be the closest competitor while Benzema cannot be relied upon because he is inconsistent. Talisca is also on the list but somehow he can shift Ronaldo.

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Quote from: borovichok on November 19, 2023, 05:20:20 PM

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I wonder if the trend will continue if Ronaldo finishes his career t leaves the club accordingly? I, for one, am considering it. Moreover, rumours have recently surfaced again that the Saudi Arabian club may be allowed to play in the Champions League. Only if earlier it sounded from the mouth of the Saudi league itself, now it sounds from the side of UEFA that they may invite Al Nassr.

The undisputed GOAT is in Saudi Arabia and have completed milestones of goals and he's aiming to break more football records in Saudi Pro League. Cristiano Ronaldo is experienced and basically knows what everyone expects from him and he ensure he delivers his team interms of difficulties. He might playing Football until he clocks 40 years of age because he's still very agile as any player that are in their late 20s. Ronaldo competitive stats is far better than those young players that are in their prime, some of them don't even go an inch close to his level.

It's not that the GOAT is the Saudi Arabian but I think Ronaldo is the GOAT in the world and regardless of his age, he can still have good performance in the time he plays for them.
We know Ronaldo had good performances when he was a younger player in Real Madrid and Manchester United but even after the age of 30, he still had good performances and Ronaldo even scored more goals after this time. He is definitely a player who can play for a longer time.

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Quote from: youdacapt on November 18, 2023, 07:29:46 PM

Ronaldo is a very different player to Haaland; while Haaland is a prolific goalscorer, ronaldo is more than just a goalscorer; he is a mentality monster and also an elite creator in the football game; proficient in penalty kicks, free kicks and has dominated in every league he has played in.

Yes. Ronaldo isn't the same as Haaland. Ronaldo has more skills, he can play in more positions. In his prime era, Ronaldo can play well almost in every position in front line (CF, LW, RW). Ronaldo wasn't only a great top scorer, he also made many assists. For me, Ronaldo is a complete attacker. Meanwhile Haaland, he is only a pure striker (CF).

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While Haaland can also be the very best; he cannot lace the cristiano ronaldo capacity or fill his boots.

Ronaldo and Haaland are different type of attackers. Surely they are incomparable. I think we don't need to compare them, right?

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Michael Emenalo, the director of football of the Saudi Pro League started talking about the players they could from top European teams and the players they are going to buy in this league soon.
We saw players like Ronaldo, Benzema, and Mane join this league but the Michael Emenalo believes they can even hire other superstar players and that's why we can even wait for players like Salah in the next transfer window.
Michael Emenalo said he supports the players they bought and he supports the teams spending huge amounts of money for these players.

https://saudigazette.com.sa/article/637812

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I think they are trying to transition to a league that has quality as well. Especially because they have already got the popularity they needed. Now they need more young and quality players. Players that are going to be able to improve the quality of football in the league and also attract other young players. We saw Ronaldo come here and he did attract a lot of senior players. Now is the time for them to bring in young players.

And I don't think it is going to be a problem for them because they have the money and a club is not going to pass on a crazy deal.

What the Saudi Pro League is doing might not be the best long-term plan, I'm beginning to think. Bringing in famous players like Ronaldo and Neymar makes news and increases popularity, but what about long-term success? It's possible that relying only on star power, especially from experienced players, might not be enough to improve the team's general quality

We should think about the future, right? Your league's ability to grow and get better depends on its young, skilled players. One problem is that it's hard to get these young players to choose the SPL over well-known European teams. It's to advance their careers, win titles, and get noticed in the major levels. For the SPL to be successful in drawing this important group, they'll need to come up with something equally appealing

I think what the Saudi Pro League is doing is an extraordinary way because in this way it has been proven that now the Saudi Pro League is being looked at by many people and before Cristiano Ronaldo joined Al Nassr, people rarely talked about the Al Nassr team, Al Hilal and so on. However, when Al Nassr signed Cristiano Ronaldo, at that time the name Al Nassr became popular and the Saudi Pro League club also became famous. I think what the Saudi Pro League did was a good thing to boost the popularity of the Saudi Pro League. and there is nothing wrong with the Saudi Pro League and I am sure that a breakthrough like that will build positive things for the Saudi Pro League, rather than not making any breakthroughs. and I see that the breakthroughs made by the Saudi pro league are positive things for building the future of the Saudi pro league.

and I also just read news and in this case Saudi Arabia is very great in advancing the world of football in Saudi Arabia.
source: https://www.kompas.tv/amp/olahraga/363642/profil-al-nassr-klub-baru-cristiano-ronaldo-yang-sanggup-bayar-rp3-2-t-untuk-kontrak-hingga-2025

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 19, 2023, 06:04:14 PM

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I think salah is gonna be one of the incoming players in the nexts seasons i dont know if in the next one or in two ahead, because he still being so important for Liverpool team, so i dont know if they want to see him leaving to Saudi Arabia, but surely he is gonna end there.

Of course, we have heard rumors about him for some time, Al-Ittihad is a team that has great intentions to recruit him, but the recruitment plan did not materialize because Liverpool did not have enough time to find a replacement for Salah at Liverpool. In fact, in several mainstream sports media, I saw news that SPL officials would fully support Al-Ittihad in getting Salah.

Al Ittihad is making changes faster than they should normally, because this team couldn't get good results this season even after hiring many players and spending money on famous players like Benzema during their last summer.
That's why they fired the Portuguese coach Nuno Santo and Marcelo Gallardo is going to start working in the Saudi League soon. This coach has many achievements and Al Ittihad hopes to improve their team with the new coach they got.

During the summer transfer window, Al Ittihad was one of the most busy Saudi League club in the transfer market as they signed good number of European based players including players like Ngolo Kante as well as former Balon D'or winner Karim Benzema but unfortunately for the club their addition of high profile players to the club hasn't helped them to be at the top of the Saudi Pro League standings.
Signing Mohammed Salah next summer isn't the solution to club's poor performance rather they should try and find a manager that'll best blend the team together and make them play more like a team than like star individual players.

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Quote from: MAAManda on November 18, 2023, 04:35:08 PM

Quote from: Volgastallion on November 18, 2023, 12:53:33 PM

I think salah is gonna be one of the incoming players in the nexts seasons i dont know if in the next one or in two ahead, because he still being so important for Liverpool team, so i dont know if they want to see him leaving to Saudi Arabia, but surely he is gonna end there.

Of course, we have heard rumors about him for some time, Al-Ittihad is a team that has great intentions to recruit him, but the recruitment plan did not materialize because Liverpool did not have enough time to find a replacement for Salah at Liverpool. In fact, in several mainstream sports media, I saw news that SPL officials would fully support Al-Ittihad in getting Salah.

Al Ittihad is making changes faster than they should normally, because this team couldn't get good results this season even after hiring many players and spending money on famous players like Benzema during their last summer.
That's why they fired the Portuguese coach Nuno Santo and Marcelo Gallardo is going to start working in the Saudi League soon. This coach has many achievements and Al Ittihad hopes to improve their team with the new coach they got.

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Quote from: QueenVera on November 19, 2023, 10:22:30 AM

We're about to experience another raid from the transfer market by the Saudi Pro League, they succeed in luring several top European players to the league and since it helped in improving the level of the league’s popularity it means they maid still want more European players come into the league, a lot of European players that a earning little from their club would be tempted to move over to the Saudi side cause of the financial benefits it comes with.

Well as for Jodan Sancho he's a young player with lots of talent, I believe he still got more left in him to showcase in the European Football, therefore it would be a wrong call to switch to the Saudi side this early cause of the financial benefits, well I hope he makes the right decision, as for Mo' Salah, Liverpool succeeded in keeping him in the club this season but I doubt if they'll be able to keep him much longer, cause the Saudi side would come up with a more tempting offer and Liverpool would have no choice but to let their star man leave.

Sancho won't be going to Saudi Arabia, if they are really interested in Manchester United player then they should opt for Casemiro because big money move will definitely lure him there since he already has everything (champions league, last liga, club World Cup and others) and he definitely knows getting the Premier league trophy with Manchester United with the current team (players, coach and back room staff) is not possible, he will love to go to Saudi and he will be a great buy.
Salah is not leaving Liverpool anytime soon big money cannot lure him except Liverpool accept to let him go and which they won't expect they are sure they officially have a replacement for sure

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Quote from: baeva on November 19, 2023, 05:02:27 PM

I wonder if the trend will continue if Ronaldo finishes his career t leaves the club accordingly? I, for one, am considering it. Moreover, rumours have recently surfaced again that the Saudi Arabian club may be allowed to play in the Champions League. Only if earlier it sounded from the mouth of the Saudi league itself, now it sounds from the side of UEFA that they may invite Al Nassr.

The undisputed GOAT is in Saudi Arabia and have completed milestones of goals and he's aiming to break more football records in Saudi Pro League. Cristiano Ronaldo is experienced and basically knows what everyone expects from him and he ensure he delivers his team interms of difficulties. He might playing Football until he clocks 40 years of age because he's still very agile as any player that are in their late 20s. Ronaldo competitive stats is far better than those young players that are in their prime, some of them don't even go an inch close to his level.

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We're about to experience another raid from the transfer market by the Saudi Pro League, they succeed in luring several top European players to the league and since it helped in improving the level of the league’s popularity it means they maid still want more European players come into the league, a lot of European players that a earning little from their club would be tempted to move over to the Saudi side cause of the financial benefits it comes with.

Well as for Jodan Sancho he's a young player with lots of talent, I believe he still got more left in him to showcase in the European Football, therefore it would be a wrong call to switch to the Saudi side this early cause of the financial benefits, well I hope he makes the right decision, as for Mo' Salah, Liverpool succeeded in keeping him in the club this season but I doubt if they'll be able to keep him much longer, cause the Saudi side would come up with a more tempting offer and Liverpool would have no choice but to let their star man leave.

Saudi Pro League clubs are not relenting, they're keen on signing the important players from Europe this coming transfer window, that's their primary target currently. All thanks to Cristiano Ronaldo who created such remarkable path for these Saudi Clubs. Last summer was just a little taste of them, next transfer window, there's definitely going to be massive signings of players with hugh sums which can not be easily resistable by the player in question. Saudi Arabia knows specifically what these players wants and they're keen on giving it to them with ease efforts.

I wonder if the trend will continue if Ronaldo finishes his career t leaves the club accordingly? I, for one, am considering it. Moreover, rumours have recently surfaced again that the Saudi Arabian club may be allowed to play in the Champions League. Only if earlier it sounded from the mouth of the Saudi league itself, now it sounds from the side of UEFA that they may invite Al Nassr.

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Quote from: wiss19 on November 19, 2023, 04:46:09 PM

That is definitely true, it was Ronaldo at first, before him there weren't really all that many famous players here, maybe like mid level European bench players at the best. However, with time Ronaldo showed the world that this league means business.

However, we need to remember or at least understand what that really means, what Ronaldo showed to the rest of the world was not that this league was "oh look how fun it is lets all go there" it was that they were willing to way overpay for players.

You are a player who got a best offer for 5 million a year from some midtable Italian team? Why not go to Saudi league for 23 million a year? You are a player whose best offer was 7.1 million a year? Why not go to Saudi league for 42 million a year? That's what he showed, NOBODY would pay 20+ million for Ronaldo, and instead he got paid 200+ million, that is the main reason why he went to Saudi league, not because of anything else and all the other players went there for the same reason.

With time? What time did he need to show that the Saudi Professional League means business when the whole world knows that he is earning $200 million per year, totaling $500 million for 2.5 years? I think there is nothing needed to say or show to let the world know that this is more about business and politics than about football itself.

There was also the trend when the teams from China paid so much money, but I think the difference was that the players going there (or Japan) didn't talk so much about how amazing the Chinese football is. It was all very quiet, the players did their job and that was it. Saudi Arabia is trying to boost the league to the moon with just money.

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Quote from: len01 on November 19, 2023, 03:16:35 AM

I remember when Neymar said that it all started with Ronaldo and that meant Ronaldo was the one who provided motivation for senior players or other young players to believe that the SPl could become a big league in the world and it was all proven after Ronaldo arrival that many other senior players came to the SPL like Benzema and Neymar and for me this is the goal of the SPL to get big traffic on the SPL to get big popularity and will continue to bring in talented players or star players from europe to be able to take the SPL to a higher level as is rumored to be able to join UCL.

but one thing you have to remember is that bringing in young players is not a young thing because maybe you know that a talented young player from a european team will refuse an offer from the SPL on the grounds that the young player needs a title and a career with a big team that has experience in getting prestigious titles in europe.
so before the SPL can enter the UCL list, it will be very difficult to bring in young players from europe unless they have academics like european teams to create young players with new talents.

That is definitely true, it was Ronaldo at first, before him there weren't really all that many famous players here, maybe like mid level European bench players at the best. However, with time Ronaldo showed the world that this league means business.

However, we need to remember or at least understand what that really means, what Ronaldo showed to the rest of the world was not that this league was "oh look how fun it is lets all go there" it was that they were willing to way overpay for players.

You are a player who got a best offer for 5 million a year from some midtable Italian team? Why not go to Saudi league for 23 million a year? You are a player whose best offer was 7.1 million a year? Why not go to Saudi league for 42 million a year? That's what he showed, NOBODY would pay 20+ million for Ronaldo, and instead he got paid 200+ million, that is the main reason why he went to Saudi league, not because of anything else and all the other players went there for the same reason.

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Quote from: borovichok on November 19, 2023, 10:49:02 AM

Saudi Pro League clubs are not relenting, they're keen on signing the important players from Europe this coming transfer window, that's their primary target currently. All thanks to Cristiano Ronaldo who created such remarkable path for these Saudi Clubs. Last summer was just a little taste of them, next transfer window, there's definitely going to be massive signings of players with hugh sums which can not be easily resistable by the player in question. Saudi Arabia knows specifically what these players wants and they're keen on giving it to them with ease efforts.

In the middle of the season most European top players are still under contract with their club so don't expect too much in the transfer window next January, ideally the players will consider the offer at the end or at the start of the season except the players who have problems with their clubs maybe he can move earlier. So far we have not heard the names of players who are targeted by the club from the Saudi Pro League so in my opinion only a few players move to this league in January.

Al-Hilal is one of the clubs looking for new players to replace Neymar who is injured It's just that we don't know who the players are targeted, some sources say Moh Salah is included in the list but I'm sure Liverpool will not let him move because they also need it especially at this time Liverpool are struggling to take over the first place. Who is the right player to replace Neymar?

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Quote from: QueenVera on November 19, 2023, 10:22:30 AM

We're about to experience another raid from the transfer market by the Saudi Pro League, they succeed in luring several top European players to the league and since it helped in improving the level of the league’s popularity it means they maid still want more European players come into the league, a lot of European players that a earning little from their club would be tempted to move over to the Saudi side cause of the financial benefits it comes with.

Saudi Arabia has achieved its aim of becoming the sole bidder for the 2034 World Cup but the nation is still committed to improving the country's local league. Top-class players will prefer to remain in Europe and win prestigious awards than to pursue money in SPL. The high wage will attract mainly players who have passed or passed the prime of their football career. But the league has managed to attract a few quality players and gradually it will keep improving.

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Well as for Jodan Sancho he's a young player with lots of talent, I believe he still got more left in him to showcase in the European Football, therefore it would be a wrong call to switch to the Saudi side this early cause of the financial benefits, well I hope he makes the right decision, as for Mo' Salah, Liverpool succeeded in keeping him in the club this season but I doubt if they'll be able to keep him much longer, cause the Saudi side would come up with a more tempting offer and Liverpool would have no choice but to let their star man leave.

Jodan Sancho is not considering moving to the Saudi league. His agent has made it clear that he would not be forced by Manchester United to move to the highest bidder. His main interest is to move to his former club Borussia Dortmund and not to the SPL. There are reports that he is even willing to sacrifice his own money to facilitate the move. But Dortmund might find it difficult to sign the striker considering his cost and wage bill. But many other top clubs in Europe are also interested in the young player.

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Quote from: snipie on November 19, 2023, 06:11:54 AM

Al-Ittihad announced their new coach after Nuno Espirito Santo to be Marcelo Gallardo (El Muneco) who was engaged for a year and a half with the team.
El Muneco was training River Plate before and hopefully he will be as successful with his new club. Nuno was sacked since Al-Ittihad results weren't good lately and because of disputes between him and his players namely Benzema.
His first match with the team will be away vs Al-Ettifaq which is quite good team. A hard test to start with Wink

Basically I don't know about the dispute between Nuno Santo and Karim Benzema, but if I may have an opinion, the main problem could be triggered by the pattern and system implemented by Nuno. Honestly, I don't have much information. However, if you refer to the pattern implemented by the previous coach, Nuno Santo, he often implemented a pattern that did not suit his players. I mean, especially for Benzema. The French star prefers an offensive pattern, but the coach tends to be the opposite. Anyway, just my personal opinion and speculation.

Referring to the new coach of Al Ittihad, it seems that Marcelo Gallardo is more inclined to implement an offensive system and pattern. Ideally, the pattern and system of the new Al Ittihad coach will suit Karim Benzema's style and wishes. Gallardo is more likely to apply a 4-3-3 pattern, although it doesn't always have to be specific. but ideal, like when Benzema was with Real Madrid and Ancelotti's pattern. The difference is, the players support Benzema in terms of helping him score goals.
Well, Gallardo actually had a good career even in the Latin American League. but we'll see how the new coach makes his first debut with Al Ittihad in the match against Al-Ettifaq.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on November 19, 2023, 12:27:59 PM

Quote from: QueenVera on November 19, 2023, 10:22:30 AM

We're about to experience another raid from the transfer market by the Saudi Pro League, they succeed in luring several top European players to the league and since it helped in improving the level of the league’s popularity it means they maid still want more European players come into the league, a lot of European players that a earning little from their club would be tempted to move over to the Saudi side cause of the financial benefits it comes with.

It wasn't a surprise when they brought in some of the top players from Europe to join the SPL, it was their plan to boost the League's popularity and it worked. Especially now that there are rumors that one of the clubs from the SPL has asked to join and be part of the Champions League, Al Nassr. Although it is just a rumor, but from here we can see they are successful with their buzz recruiting many players who previously played for big clubs in Europe.
If it does happen (Al Nassr will play in the Champions League), it will be a huge success for the SPL.

I have now spent some time researching where this rumor comes from that the UEFA intends to invite Al-Nassr into the Champions League for the season 24/25. I can't find an official source that either cites any official channel from the UEFA or is itself considered highly trustworthy.

Can anyone post a link here where the UEFA or one of their officials has announced that Al-Nassr will be invited or confirmed that the rumor is true and that there are considerations to extend the Champions League by this club?

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Quote from: QueenVera on November 19, 2023, 10:22:30 AM

We're about to experience another raid from the transfer market by the Saudi Pro League, they succeed in luring several top European players to the league and since it helped in improving the level of the league’s popularity it means they maid still want more European players come into the league, a lot of European players that a earning little from their club would be tempted to move over to the Saudi side cause of the financial benefits it comes with.

It wasn't a surprise when they brought in some of the top players from Europe to join the SPL, it was their plan to boost the League's popularity and it worked. Especially now that there are rumors that one of the clubs from the SPL has asked to join and be part of the Champions League, Al Nassr. Although it is just a rumor, but from here we can see they are successful with their buzz recruiting many players who previously played for big clubs in Europe.
If it does happen (Al Nassr will play in the Champions League), it will be a huge success for the SPL.

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