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I fully support @hd49728 statement that Saudi Arabia should, from now on, have an academy to recruit new players with the talent developed at the academy so it does not rely too much on players from Europe and also with this Saudi Arabia can also get reliable players from its own academy

Firstly, these are utopian plans, and secondly, they are too long-term - for the academies to give some kind of result, it will probably take about 10 years. The population of Saudi Arabia is 34 million people, the third of which are labor migrants, it is obvious that if the Saudis want to strive for the level of the top leagues, they must focus on external sources of players.
But indeed if Saudi Arabia wants to have a better generation of football at this time the right moment, where on their land there are many star players who compete every week, this will be an attraction for the younger generation who begin to develop, of course the making of the academy will accommodate The interest of today's generation football is echoing in Arab land, even though the population is not so much.

The problem of time will definitely take quite a long time in the development of this academy, so for now it is still very much needed by outside players to increase their league popularity.
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September 04, 2023, 08:55:20 AM
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I fully support @hd49728 statement that Saudi Arabia should, from now on, have an academy to recruit new players with the talent developed at the academy so it does not rely too much on players from Europe and also with this Saudi Arabia can also get reliable players from its own academy

Firstly, these are utopian plans, and secondly, they are too long-term - for the academies to give some kind of result, it will probably take about 10 years. The population of Saudi Arabia is 34 million people, the third of which are labor migrants, it is obvious that if the Saudis want to strive for the level of the top leagues, they must focus on external sources of players.
The Saudis have a lot of money to use in making sure that SPL is strong and that is why they are more focus on buying European players because they know that this is the only way that they can achieve their dreams faster. The country has enough money that they can use to pay foreigners and get the firm,instead of building a football academy. Maybe in the long run,they can build one but this is not what they want presently as they want all eyes to be focused on their league. They are trying to use football to draw more attention to Saudi Arabia.
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September 04, 2023, 08:47:58 AM
Al Nassr are still at the bottom of the points' table after losing two matches at the start of the season. But their next matches, played well and won. Yesterday's match was a thrilling 5-1 win against Al Nasser Al Hazem. Al Nassr players in particular were in top form and many scored goals in the match. Al Nassr have won this match and are at number 6 in the points table, but they need to win their next matches to progress. However, if Sadio Mané and Ronaldo are present in the next matches, Al Nassr will definitely win the match.
Even though I've been watching Al Nassr for a while, I didn't see this coming at all. Good for them. But, in my (slightly crazy) view, we shouldn't get too far ahead of ourselves. Starting the season with two losses and then making a big comeback with a win? It sounds a little bit random, don't you think? Now, this is where my mind starts to spin. Even though they have Ronaldo and Mané, they are only ranked sixth. Shouldn't they be doing something, like clearing the table? I mean, really. With those big names, I'd think they'd be in the running for the title right away
Despite having players like Sadio Mané and Ronaldo in the team, Al Nassr's position at the moment is number 6 in the points table. Al Nassr, who won the Arab Cup last season, could have been in a better position this season but they failed to get off to a good start. The first five matches have already been played by each team while Al Nassr have lost two maps in the first five months due to which they are not in a good position in the points table at the moment. As Al Nassr is one of the biggest clubs in Saudi Arabia, the expectation is that Al Nassr will be at the top of the points table.

The simple reason is that they screwed it up in the first two games. This is no news as obviously they would be in a lower position because of those two losses.

But I think that they have had a full recovery given that they have been scoring lots of goals and were the dominant team in all those games. Mane and Ronaldo also work together very well. In SPL terms, the duo Mane + Ronaldo could be the one that will cause the sensation the league is hoping for.
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September 04, 2023, 08:31:39 AM

Yannick Carrasco has arrived in Saudi Arabia and will soon be introduced as a new Al-Shabab player. It seems that the negotiations between Al-Shabab and Atletico Madrid are going quite smoothly and this is the first European signing for Al-Shabab this season. In the near future Yannick Carrasco will also undergo a medical test before the official announcement and his contract will last 3 years. The costs incurred by Al-Shabab were also not too expensive, around 15 million euros for Atletico Madrid. After previously having an adventure in the Chinese league, now a new adventure awaits Yannick Carrasco in the Saudi league which has become a trend for other European players.


At age 30 I expect him to be playing in one of the top leagues in Europe, he's a very fine player and it was sad to see him move over to Chinese league last season because of money, but atleast he's made a good decision this season by coming out of the deadleague to a better one where we'll be heard on in the news and I believe that with the experience he's got while playing for Athletico Madrid it won't be difficult blending into the Saudi side.
 Yannick Carrasco would make a fine upgrade to his new team and I think he might not be the only player that would join Al-Shabab if you noticed they suffered a great lose against Al-Nassr so they'll definitely need more upgrade to strengthen them and that's what's trending in all Saudi clubs currently and since their transfer window is still open till month end they've got lots of time to lure more players into their team.
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Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1698502276606812195

Yannick Carrasco has arrived in Saudi Arabia and will soon be introduced as a new Al-Shabab player. It seems that the negotiations between Al-Shabab and Atletico Madrid are going quite smoothly and this is the first European signing for Al-Shabab this season. In the near future Yannick Carrasco will also undergo a medical test before the official announcement and his contract will last 3 years. The costs incurred by Al-Shabab were also not too expensive, around 15 million euros for Atletico Madrid. After previously having an adventure in the Chinese league, now a new adventure awaits Yannick Carrasco in the Saudi league which has become a trend for other European players.

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September 04, 2023, 06:55:44 AM
Despite having players like Sadio Mané and Ronaldo in the team, Al Nassr's position at the moment is number 6 in the points table. Al Nassr, who won the Arab Cup last season, could have been in a better position this season but they failed to get off to a good start. The first five matches have already been played by each team while Al Nassr have lost two maps in the first five months due to which they are not in a good position in the points table at the moment. As Al Nassr is one of the biggest clubs in Saudi Arabia, the expectation is that Al Nassr will be at the top of the points table.

Wait a minute, I want to make sure, which Arab cup you are referring to was won by Al Nassr last season. please tell me, maybe I have missed something. and as far as I know, the Kings Cup was won by Al Hilal and the Saudi Pro League trophy was won by Al Ittihad. well, if we refer to the first two matches of Al Nassr's campaign at the start of this competition. against Al Ettifaq, Luis Carlo only played Sadio Mane as a center forward. the rest is filled by local players.
I don't really know whether Luis Carlo didn't take into account his opponent, who incidentally was Al Ettifaq, who was commanded by Steven Gerrard. Or, the coach's focus is on the Arab Club Champions Cup. So, after winning the match the main players were given the opportunity to relax. Unfortunately, Al Nassr had to lose in the initial match at Al Ettifaq headquarters.

In the next match, it turned out that Al Taawoun put up resistance even though Luis Carlo's squad dominated the match. In the end, Al Nassr lost the first two matches this season. In the next match, Al Nassr was able to sweep to victory with a landslide score. It seems that communication and bonds between players are starting to get better. next, this team should be even more solid with a very competitive squad. In theory, Al Nassr should be able to defeat his opponents in match after match. so, gradually they will be good to rank four in the standings.
But the problem is, there are other strong teams. in particular, Al Ittihad and Al hilal and Al-Ahli is no exception. if Al Nassr is able to overthrow its competitors, they will easily become the top of the standings. but certainly, it is not easy. At the top of the standings is Al Hilal, this team is one of Al Nassr's toughest rivals. so, Al Nassr's journey in the struggle for the trophy this season is not as easy as you might expect.
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September 04, 2023, 06:39:02 AM
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I fully support @hd49728 statement that Saudi Arabia should, from now on, have an academy to recruit new players with the talent developed at the academy so it does not rely too much on players from Europe and also with this Saudi Arabia can also get reliable players from its own academy

Firstly, these are utopian plans, and secondly, they are too long-term - for the academies to give some kind of result, it will probably take about 10 years. The population of Saudi Arabia is 34 million people, the third of which are labor migrants, it is obvious that if the Saudis want to strive for the level of the top leagues, they must focus on external sources of players.
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September 04, 2023, 06:28:35 AM
I'm dizzy with the Saudi Arabian teams. They are in turmoil during the transfer season and are taking away a lot of players from European clubs. With trends in the next few years. Are European football teams still strong? When the Saudi Arabian National Championship continuously recruited stars from European teams. Do they have enough money to do it? Will their league surpass the top European leagues? Too many questions about them.
this effort really creates pros and cons between the european league and the SPL when large transfers are made to get european players to increase the development of football in the SPL so that it is known as one of the biggest football games in the world after Europe. I know for sure that there will be a lot of people who will disagree with the steps taken by Saudi Arabia, but nevertheless this is mutually beneficial when players who are not well respected in Europe can still be used in Saudi Arabia to take their star names, for example, like Neymar, who is almost old and has an injury that hasn't healed yet, but Saudi Arabia wants to buy it, while in Europe its very rare that other teams want to buy it, and I think that almost all of the players who were successfully recruited by the Saudi arabian team are over 30 years old, which means their performance is not very stable in Europe.
and what I know is that the European football league will always be known as big league in the world because it has been around for a long time with performance of the players in it who are really reliable and built from the team itself and Saudi Arabia instead of getting old players from Europe but just like buying the name of the star player.

I fully support @hd49728 statement that Saudi Arabia should, from now on, have an academy to recruit new players with the talent developed at the academy so it does not rely too much on players from Europe and also with this Saudi Arabia can also get reliable players from its own academy
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September 04, 2023, 04:19:08 AM
There are 2 ways to build a great club the first as you said through the academy prepares young talent the 2nd way is to use the power of money Real Madrid is an example of success in using money, n this case the Saudi League wants to use an instant method. But that's not what I mean, what they do is not solely for the success of the club but wants to attract world attention then they will offer business and that business will not come from football but from other sides such as property and tourism.

Why through football? because that's the fastest way. If you think they really want to build a great club then bringing in old players is not the right way we know they can only play for the next 2-5 years after that they will retire, compare with elite clubs in Europe none of them used this method so in my opinion their target is only for promotion in other sectors.
They built this business on the power of money and yes it will pay off quickly to grow revenue for the big teams at SPL. However, their financial aspect must always be strong in every season because if there is a setback in recruiting top European players then it will have a bad impact on their business in the coming season.

Several SPL teams continue to recruit players in this transfer window because they still have a lot of time in the transfer window before it closes on September 20. The name of the top player that is often linked at the moment is Salah with Ittihad where they continue to try hard to persuade Salah even though Liverpool have rejected their first offer.
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September 04, 2023, 03:53:39 AM
I guess nobody could ever expect to see Al Fateh winning the game against Al Ahli in the game today after all the money Al Ahli spent this summer and the players they bought, however, it's too soon to judge Al Ahli and the players they bought because we know these players need some time. but personally, I could never predict this result.
 
 
It was a very disastrous and very embarrassing defeat, any team that suffers a big defeat like this will experience a mental downturn, Moreover, Al-Ahli is making a huge investment to build his club to become one of the strongest in this league. This season they have spent almost 200 million euros and that is in stark contrast to previous seasons where they only spent a few million euros to buy players.
Some of the matches at the start of the season looked very impressive but this defeat will damage the mentality of the players a little, especially if they are not strong enough to accept criticism for the defeat.

Al Nassr are still at the bottom of the points' table after losing two matches at the start of the season. But their next matches, played well and won. Yesterday's match was a thrilling 5-1 win against Al Nasser Al Hazem. Al Nassr players in particular were in top form and many scored goals in the match. Al Nassr have won this match and are at number 6 in the points table, but they need to win their next matches to progress. However, if Sadio Mané and Ronaldo are present in the next matches, Al Nassr will definitely win the match.
Two defeats at the start of the season made it a little difficult for them to improve their position so far, but there are still many matches left and anything can happen, including Al Taawon, who is now in second place, dropping in ranking, and when strong teams face each other, the standings will change. as happened when Al Ittihad lost to Al Hilal.
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September 04, 2023, 03:53:32 AM
Three matches in a row Al-Nassr always won big by scoring more than 3 goals and this was in stark contrast to the two matches at the start of the season where they were only able to score 1 goal. Could it be that now the depth of the squad owned by Al-Nassr has begun to be evenly distributed and in fact they only conceded 1 goal in three matches.

What's contributing to this high numbers of goals by the Al Nassr side is because they have many goal scorers on their squad and not just Ronaldo. When the team is playing well, atleast 3 players will get on the score board like Ronaldo, Sadio mane and  one other player also sometimes they both get more than one goals. Al Nassr is playing good football so they'll be scoring often and the more they score they more they get hungry to score more. Ronaldo has options to score more than one goal in the last game just as he has the chance to score a hat trick in the last two games but gave it up, he also decided to proven an assist which goes to show he's playing for the team and not just himself.
We certainly also know that Ronaldo is known for his selfishness to always score goals but sometimes he can get rid of that and focus more on winning the team. What he's done so far has been pretty good and it's helped the team win by a big score and it's not just about chasing records. On the other hand, if Al-Nassr continues to be consistent like this then their victory will be much more guaranteed and I hope Ronaldo can lower his selfishness like in the previous match because he is no longer young like before, who always had amazing finishing when in the opponent's defensive area.
Yes, of course everyone knows about Ronaldo's selfishness when he was still playing in Europe. Maybe he knows and sees the situation of European and Asian matches very differently, therefore he tends to get rid of or reduce his selfishness and rely more on teamwork to score goals. I think this is very positive because a solid and collaborative team tends to be more successful than just depending on one player who takes advantage of his selfishness. May he continue to adapt to this change and continue to make meaningful contributions with Al-Nassr. Meanwhile, Al-Nassr also deserves praise for his consistency in winning. Hopefully they can continue their good performance and achieve greater success in the future.
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September 04, 2023, 03:03:39 AM
Attracting those players into the league would help build the league and also attract people's interest in it as well, because if you notice alot of fans supporting those top European players for instance Cristiano Ronaldo and Benzema fans are now following up with the Saudi league and even betting on their matches unlike the previous times when fewer peope had interest in it.
 Well football is not just only a form of entertainment but a business as well, and since these rich Saudi's could not wait over a long time to develop their country players into world class plyers they decided to use the influence of their finance to make it happen and i believe it would pay off because those local players would be motivated by the top players introduced into the league and also learn from them, if you notice the country side players are now performing better courtesy to the influence of the European players.
The Saudi Arabian league is increasingly interesting to watch because several teams are starting to play better after successfully recruiting top European players. Like al nassr, their game is no longer boring because several top players have joined their team, giving birth to a more beautiful game in every game they play. Yes football is a business and they do it to get a lot of profit from every match they play.

As reported, 140 countries have purchased the broadcast rights for SPL matches. I think they will continue to make more promising changes for their future development and compete to be in the top top level as the best league in the Asian continent.
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September 04, 2023, 02:47:16 AM
There are 2 ways to build a great club the first as you said through the academy prepares young talent the 2nd way is to use the power of money Real Madrid is an example of success in using money, n this case the Saudi League wants to use an instant method. But that's not what I mean, what they do is not solely for the success of the club but wants to attract world attention then they will offer business and that business will not come from football but from other sides such as property and tourism.

Why through football? because that's the fastest way. If you think they really want to build a great club then bringing in old players is not the right way we know they can only play for the next 2-5 years after that they will retire, compare with elite clubs in Europe none of them used this method so in my opinion their target is only for promotion in other sectors.
Attracting those players into the league would help build the league and also attract people's interest in it as well, because if you notice alot of fans supporting those top European players for instance Cristiano Ronaldo and Benzema fans are now following up with the Saudi league and even betting on their matches unlike the previous times when fewer peope had interest in it.
 Well football is not just only a form of entertainment but a business as well, and since these rich Saudi's could not wait over a long time to develop their country players into world class plyers they decided to use the influence of their finance to make it happen and i believe it would pay off because those local players would be motivated by the top players introduced into the league and also learn from them, if you notice the country side players are now performing better courtesy to the influence of the European players.
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September 04, 2023, 02:15:09 AM
Problems with Saudi Professional League is not all of their clubs are rich and have huge transfer budgets to buy star players from Europe. Only four biggest clubs got such budgets from PIF.

Saudi Arabia’s PIF acquires Saudi Pro League four largest clubs. It will not be a good way to develop a whole league and they only can create a Big Four in Saudi Professional League, makes those clubs dominate the league more strongly.

Generally even those clubs won't have healthy growth in quality as they can not buy star players from Europe forever. What they must focus is their club academies for youth players who need to have good environment and support from their clubs and academies to learn from star players and grow up their career. The Saudi Professional League need domestic youth players to be stronger sustainably.

There are 2 ways to build a great club the first as you said through the academy prepares young talent the 2nd way is to use the power of money Real Madrid is an example of success in using money, n this case the Saudi League wants to use an instant method. But that's not what I mean, what they do is not solely for the success of the club but wants to attract world attention then they will offer business and that business will not come from football but from other sides such as property and tourism.

Why through football? because that's the fastest way. If you think they really want to build a great club then bringing in old players is not the right way we know they can only play for the next 2-5 years after that they will retire, compare with elite clubs in Europe none of them used this method so in my opinion their target is only for promotion in other sectors.
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September 04, 2023, 02:06:11 AM
Al Nassr are still at the bottom of the points' table after losing two matches at the start of the season. But their next matches, played well and won. Yesterday's match was a thrilling 5-1 win against Al Nasser Al Hazem. Al Nassr players in particular were in top form and many scored goals in the match. Al Nassr have won this match and are at number 6 in the points table, but they need to win their next matches to progress. However, if Sadio Mané and Ronaldo are present in the next matches, Al Nassr will definitely win the match.
Even though I've been watching Al Nassr for a while, I didn't see this coming at all. Good for them. But, in my (slightly crazy) view, we shouldn't get too far ahead of ourselves. Starting the season with two losses and then making a big comeback with a win? It sounds a little bit random, don't you think? Now, this is where my mind starts to spin. Even though they have Ronaldo and Mané, they are only ranked sixth. Shouldn't they be doing something, like clearing the table? I mean, really. With those big names, I'd think they'd be in the running for the title right away
Despite having players like Sadio Mané and Ronaldo in the team, Al Nassr's position at the moment is number 6 in the points table. Al Nassr, who won the Arab Cup last season, could have been in a better position this season but they failed to get off to a good start. The first five matches have already been played by each team while Al Nassr have lost two maps in the first five months due to which they are not in a good position in the points table at the moment. As Al Nassr is one of the biggest clubs in Saudi Arabia, the expectation is that Al Nassr will be at the top of the points table.
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September 04, 2023, 01:48:57 AM
Three matches in a row Al-Nassr always won big by scoring more than 3 goals and this was in stark contrast to the two matches at the start of the season where they were only able to score 1 goal. Could it be that now the depth of the squad owned by Al-Nassr has begun to be evenly distributed and in fact they only conceded 1 goal in three matches. Al-Nassr's big win against Al-Hazm proved they can do just that again and this time Ronaldo got 1 goal and 2 assists for his partner. I think if they continue to be consistent, it is not impossible that Al-Nassr will be able to compete with Al-Hilla and Al-Ittihad again in the standings. The presence of Aymeric Laporte has proven successful in strengthening Al-Nassr's defense and this may also be one of the successful purchases from Al-Nassr.
Al-Nassr started with 2 losses in a row after the Arab cup, but then they ended up winning three in a row which they should have done already. I think it is quite obvious that we are going to end up with results like this from them most of the time.

I think it is obvious that we are talking about a situation where Al-Nassr ended up losing games they shouldn't, and that caused them to not play all that great and it should be obvious that we are going to see them do better. Ronaldo scored once again, dude is unstoppable, he is scoring every game all the time, it could be as simple as a penalty for him, or it could be a good shot, one way or another he gets his goal every single game. They built a really good team for sure.
These guys are playing really well. The opponent is easy and all that, but they are constantly making extra passes, passing to an open friend instead of shooting. Good game, good win. The opponent played well in the first half. Al Nassr must have started working with the European system. Ronaldo is like a young footballer trying to prove himself, the ambitious man has broken all sorts of records in the name of football, and even though he has written his name in golden letters in football history, he never lets up. Saudi League is getting surprisingly good.
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September 03, 2023, 11:00:05 PM
That's what some people think of this league they only judge from one side even though there are many other sides, as you said there is no way to compete with the Europa League because it is on a different track unless a club from the Saudi Pro League participates in the Champions/Europa League it might make sense to compare them. It's no secret that the League's target is promotion and business because it's impossible for them to spend 800 Million without expecting something.

For anyone wondering how much money they have, just google it and it's easy to find, on the wikipedia page it is explained that their total asset value is $776 billion that's 70x higher than Manchester United price as we know Manchester United will be sold for $10 billion.
Problems with Saudi Professional League is not all of their clubs are rich and have huge transfer budgets to buy star players from Europe. Only four biggest clubs got such budgets from PIF.

Saudi Arabia’s PIF acquires Saudi Pro League four largest clubs. It will not be a good way to develop a whole league and they only can create a Big Four in Saudi Professional League, makes those clubs dominate the league more strongly.

Generally even those clubs won't have healthy growth in quality as they can not buy star players from Europe forever. What they must focus is their club academies for youth players who need to have good environment and support from their clubs and academies to learn from star players and grow up their career. The Saudi Professional League need domestic youth players to be stronger sustainably.
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September 03, 2023, 10:30:04 PM
I'm dizzy with the Saudi Arabian teams. They are in turmoil during the transfer season and are taking away a lot of players from European clubs. With trends in the next few years. Are European football teams still strong? When the Saudi Arabian National Championship continuously recruited stars from European teams. Do they have enough money to do it? Will their league surpass the top European leagues? Too many questions about them.
No leagues can't match up the popularity and strength of European leagues. It's not all about signing trending players on the market, because with the current circumstances, the European leagues becoming more interesting and pulled up with competitive games. There's absolutely no comparison between these leagues, because Saudi is just coming gradually to limelight, so there's enough differences. Stop imagining things, it will take decades before Saudi Pro League will be able to compete with European football. We don't sit in the position to make judgements on that precisely.

That's what some people think of this league they only judge from one side even though there are many other sides, as you said there is no way to compete with the Europa League because it is on a different track unless a club from the Saudi Pro League participates in the Champions/Europa League it might make sense to compare them. It's no secret that the League's target is promotion and business because it's impossible for them to spend 800 Million without expecting something.

For anyone wondering how much money they have, just google it and it's easy to find, on the wikipedia page it is explained that their total asset value is $776 billion that's 70x higher than Manchester United price as we know Manchester United will be sold for $10 billion.
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I'm dizzy with the Saudi Arabian teams. They are in turmoil during the transfer season and are taking away a lot of players from European clubs. With trends in the next few years. Are European football teams still strong? When the Saudi Arabian National Championship continuously recruited stars from European teams. Do they have enough money to do it? Will their league surpass the top European leagues? Too many questions about them.
No leagues can't match up the popularity and strength of European leagues. It's not all about signing trending players on the market, because with the current circumstances, the European leagues becoming more interesting and pulled up with competitive games. There's absolutely no comparison between these leagues, because Saudi is just coming gradually to limelight, so there's enough differences. Stop imagining things, it will take decades before Saudi Pro League will be able to compete with European football. We don't sit in the position to make judgements on that precisely.
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I'm dizzy with the Saudi Arabian teams. They are in turmoil during the transfer season and are taking away a lot of players from European clubs. With trends in the next few years. Are European football teams still strong? When the Saudi Arabian National Championship continuously recruited stars from European teams. Do they have enough money to do it? Will their league surpass the top European leagues? Too many questions about them.
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