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Quote from: hahay on June 11, 2023, 12:54:27 PM

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Quote from: wiss19 on June 11, 2023, 12:12:10 PM

I mean we should agree that these are more money these players can make for the rest of their careers combined than just a single year. So for example in Kantes case, he could play 10 more years, and he would not make 100 million total, that's just not going to happen, and instead he is making more money in a single year than he could make anywhere else.

As I have stated before, Saudis could be rich but they are not rich enough to keep this going, for example if they did this for all 11, that would be 1.1 billion a year, we all know they won't do that, so they will pay less, and even at 50 million a year, that's 550 million a year, they won't even do that. Which means that they will get a few token players like these, and a few more smaller names instead of huge names, like iago aspas and so forth, and they will call it a day, won't make them top 10 let alone top 5.

There are many types of players, some really care about very tight competition in popular leagues so they stay at their current clubs, or they leave but are still in a competitive league environment. The players come here one of the factors is the fantastic money they will get, it will guarantee their future. I would not make a big deal out of this, because apart from being a hobby they are also working and have to earn money in their hobby. Arab clubs are one of the destinations where players can get high salary values, so they will be tempted, especially if they are entering retirement age.

Yes, because young players will certainly settle down playing in Europe because of course, playing in Europe is a high motivation for achievement. So, to move and play in Saudi Arabia at least these players have entered retirement age. Thus, I agree about the amount of salary earned by star players who are willing to play in Saudi Arabia because after all, because they have entered retirement age, in the end these teams will only pay these players maybe only for one or two seasons. Therefore, I think the saudi professional league might be an alternative for them before retiring, because here they can receive high pay before retiring.

I think Benzema is the second star after Ronaldo coming here.Benzema said I am a Muslim and I feel at home here so I talked with my family and they are happy for this decision I took.He maybe is there because of the money and say such things to justify his move which he has gotten to Al Ittihad which is the winner of this last season there and Cristiano is with Al Nassr,making this league at least somewhat more strong and beautiful to watch.An interesting fact is that both players have been Real Madrid ex players,with Ronaldo coming from United while Benzema straight from Real Madrid.Now the only one missing in this league is Messi Grin

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Quote from: rendravolt on June 11, 2023, 11:05:24 AM

Indeed, there was a lot of talk about Kante's arrival at Al-Ittihad and it seems that what Kante has experienced this season could become his stumbling block that made him fail to join Al-Ittihad. The injury problem experienced by Kante is very complex and learning from what Al-Ittihad has done can be an important reference for them because bringing in Kante must be proportional to the salary they will spend later. But I still hope that the injury problem will be resolved soon, however, for the SPL team to be able to get a football star like Kante and not too old is already very good for the development of football in the Middle East.

My question is what if Chelsea don't extend his contract while his contract will expire in the next 3 weeks would he be without a club?
Al-Ittihad could have signed Kante but on additional conditions related to the injury, I honestly remain optimistic that Kante will move to the Saudi League although he would not play since the start of the season because he doesn't have much choice, except for Chelsea to extend his contract.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 11, 2023, 12:45:12 PM

Quote from: wiss19 on June 11, 2023, 12:12:10 PM

I mean we should agree that these are more money these players can make for the rest of their careers combined than just a single year. So for example in Kantes case, he could play 10 more years, and he would not make 100 million total, that's just not going to happen, and instead he is making more money in a single year than he could make anywhere else.

As I have stated before, Saudis could be rich but they are not rich enough to keep this going, for example if they did this for all 11, that would be 1.1 billion a year, we all know they won't do that, so they will pay less, and even at 50 million a year, that's 550 million a year, they won't even do that. Which means that they will get a few token players like these, and a few more smaller names instead of huge names, like iago aspas and so forth, and they will call it a day, won't make them top 10 let alone top 5.

There are many types of players, some really care about very tight competition in popular leagues so they stay at their current clubs, or they leave but are still in a competitive league environment. The players come here one of the factors is the fantastic money they will get, it will guarantee their future. I would not make a big deal out of this, because apart from being a hobby they are also working and have to earn money in their hobby. Arab clubs are one of the destinations where players can get high salary values, so they will be tempted, especially if they are entering retirement age.

Yes, because young players will certainly settle down playing in Europe because of course, playing in Europe is a high motivation for achievement. So, to move and play in Saudi Arabia at least these players have entered retirement age. Thus, I agree about the amount of salary earned by star players who are willing to play in Saudi Arabia because after all, because they have entered retirement age, in the end these teams will only pay these players maybe only for one or two seasons. Therefore, I think the saudi professional league might be an alternative for them before retiring, because here they can receive high pay before retiring.

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Quote from: wiss19 on June 11, 2023, 12:12:10 PM

I mean we should agree that these are more money these players can make for the rest of their careers combined than just a single year. So for example in Kantes case, he could play 10 more years, and he would not make 100 million total, that's just not going to happen, and instead he is making more money in a single year than he could make anywhere else.

As I have stated before, Saudis could be rich but they are not rich enough to keep this going, for example if they did this for all 11, that would be 1.1 billion a year, we all know they won't do that, so they will pay less, and even at 50 million a year, that's 550 million a year, they won't even do that. Which means that they will get a few token players like these, and a few more smaller names instead of huge names, like iago aspas and so forth, and they will call it a day, won't make them top 10 let alone top 5.

There are many types of players, some really care about very tight competition in popular leagues so they stay at their current clubs, or they leave but are still in a competitive league environment. The players come here one of the factors is the fantastic money they will get, it will guarantee their future. I would not make a big deal out of this, because apart from being a hobby they are also working and have to earn money in their hobby. Arab clubs are one of the destinations where players can get high salary values, so they will be tempted, especially if they are entering retirement age.

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I mean we should agree that these are more money these players can make for the rest of their careers combined than just a single year. So for example in Kantes case, he could play 10 more years, and he would not make 100 million total, that's just not going to happen, and instead he is making more money in a single year than he could make anywhere else.

As I have stated before, Saudis could be rich but they are not rich enough to keep this going, for example if they did this for all 11, that would be 1.1 billion a year, we all know they won't do that, so they will pay less, and even at 50 million a year, that's 550 million a year, they won't even do that. Which means that they will get a few token players like these, and a few more smaller names instead of huge names, like iago aspas and so forth, and they will call it a day, won't make them top 10 let alone top 5.

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Quote from: bangjoe on June 11, 2023, 08:15:52 AM

We know that Kante has a pretty bright history of the previous team, before he experienced a decline in the last season.
Of course, if Kante has a bright opportunity for a career in Al Ittihad if the performance returns full, and does not experience injuries so that it makes a fairly high loss for the team.
But what Al Ittihad found today found a pretty good game, and today became the peak leader, of course, with the arrival of Kante will make Ittihad better and maintain his dominance on the Arab land gridiron.

I think that the Arab League will be very fun and very competitive, because there are many world players who compete or join the Arab League team, it seems that the media's attention will be quite shifted.

N'Golo Kante has had a bad season due to frequent injuries, even though if you look at his previous career it was quite promising and now he is no longer young to play in the big leagues in Europe. The decision to move to Al Ittihad was actually also a good decision because there he would become a core player who could continue to play and the pay there was also quite large, especially since Cristiano Ronaldo and Karim Benzema also played there. So far there is no clarity regarding the future of N'Golo Kante and I hope he will accept the offer to play at Al Ittihad next season.

Saudi Arabia sees a business opportunity in recruiting European stars and they are also trying to improve the reputation of the league through club level and the availability of big money will pave the way for them. But to make the Saudi Arabian League more competitive, I don't think it will have much effect, if the European star players only play in one club which is not spread across at least three or four clubs in Saudi Arabia.

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Quote from: rendravolt on June 11, 2023, 11:05:24 AM

Indeed, there was a lot of talk about Kante's arrival at Al-Ittihad and it seems that what Kante has experienced this season could become his stumbling block that made him fail to join Al-Ittihad. The injury problem experienced by Kante is very complex and learning from what Al-Ittihad has done can be an important reference for them because bringing in Kante must be proportional to the salary they will spend later. But I still hope that the injury problem will be resolved soon, however, for the SPL team to be able to get a football star like Kante and not too old is already very good for the development of football in the Middle East.

The deal will be a good and prosperous way to end a career filled with success and some challenges. The 32year N’Golo Kante has been nicknamed the player with two hearts because of his strength and consistency. But in recent times injuries have been his biggest enemy. He is humble and easy going and there has never been any record of him having problems with any player or coach. I wish he seals this contract because he will need the money to enjoy his retirement.

He might not have off-the-pitch economic value like his fellow French player Benzema but Al-Ittihad will benefit from the experience, strength, and prowess o,f the French world cup winner. Younger players will be able to benefit from his experience and good character. Al-Ittihad seems to be more proactive than Al-Nassr because they want to keep dominating the Saudi Arabia Professional League. After losing Messi, SPL will still get more attention next season with the signing of Benzema and maybe Kante.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on June 11, 2023, 08:46:50 AM

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N'Golo Kante will be a free transfer player this month because his contract with Chelsea will end on June 30 but there is no news about the new contract
Al Ittihad who knows Kante's status is trying to make an a offer $100 million but Kante hasn't made a decision he is still waiting for the update from Chelsea
reportedly Chelsea are willing to release Kante because he is more often injured in the last 2 years.

Kante has not yet signed the final contract. I heard that if the medical problem has become the main problem that was preventing the final deal to be agreed by both of parties. In my opinion if the final agreement will be made once kante will be successfully passing the medichal check up.
As you know that if kante has ever absence from chelsea for almost 6 months. That's why ittihad is still trying to learn whether that potentially gives problem to the ittihad in the future or not.
In my opinion if the chance for final deal to be made is very big. I think that the hamstring injury that has ever happened with kante already solved. Kante was also able playing in the several match.
Since kante will be paid with a lot of money by ittihad and the club wants to make sure if kante will not be facing injury once he will be officially joined as ittihad's player.

Indeed, there was a lot of talk about Kante's arrival at Al-Ittihad and it seems that what Kante has experienced this season could become his stumbling block that made him fail to join Al-Ittihad. The injury problem experienced by Kante is very complex and learning from what Al-Ittihad has done can be an important reference for them because bringing in Kante must be proportional to the salary they will spend later. But I still hope that the injury problem will be resolved soon, however, for the SPL team to be able to get a football star like Kante and not too old is already very good for the development of football in the Middle East.

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Quote from: zuzie on June 10, 2023, 08:54:26 PM

N'Golo Kante will be a free transfer player this month because his contract with Chelsea will end on June 30 but there is no news about the new contract
Al Ittihad who knows Kante's status is trying to make an a offer $100 million but Kante hasn't made a decision he is still waiting for the update from Chelsea
reportedly Chelsea are willing to release Kante because he is more often injured in the last 2 years.

Kante has not yet signed the final contract. I heard that if the medical problem has become the main problem that was preventing the final deal to be agreed by both of parties. In my opinion if the final agreement will be made once kante will be successfully passing the medichal check up.
As you know that if kante has ever absence from chelsea for almost 6 months. That's why ittihad is still trying to learn whether that potentially gives problem to the ittihad in the future or not.
In my opinion if the chance for final deal to be made is very big. I think that the hamstring injury that has ever happened with kante already solved. Kante was also able playing in the several match.
Since kante will be paid with a lot of money by ittihad and the club wants to make sure if kante will not be facing injury once he will be officially joined as ittihad's player.

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He had suffered a hamstring injury and missed 6 months of the season in PL, this is a serious problem for Al-Ittihad, even though both parties have an agreement, but Al-Ittihad wants to make sure from the medical test, hopefully nothing happens , so that Kante can play with Benzema at Al-Ittihad.

Kante is a very good Defensive Midfielder, he will bring a lot of balance to Al-Ittihad midfield if he is fully fit. Maybe after this recovery Ngolo kante will not be injured anytime soon again since that the Saudi League is not as physical and demanding as the Premier League was. It will be bad business for the Saudi Arabians if after just bringing him to the club for such an attractive amount of money he goes into injury and is unable to play in many games for the season coming.

We know that Kante has a pretty bright history of the previous team, before he experienced a decline in the last season.
Of course, if Kante has a bright opportunity for a career in Al Ittihad if the performance returns full, and does not experience injuries so that it makes a fairly high loss for the team.
But what Al Ittihad found today found a pretty good game, and today became the peak leader, of course, with the arrival of Kante will make Ittihad better and maintain his dominance on the Arab land gridiron.

I think that the Arab League will be very fun and very competitive, because there are many world players who compete or join the Arab League team, it seems that the media's attention will be quite shifted.

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Quote from: asriloni on June 10, 2023, 06:51:42 PM

It won't happen. Messi already agreed to join with intermiami rather than al hilal. that makes al hilal will be trying to find another target that can be brought to the SPL. I see no chance for hilal to get messi now or at least until the end of transfer season.
Some players like busquets and suarez were also following messi to join in intermiami as well. This club owner by beckham was the weakest club in MLS. bekcham hope with the come of messi will able to change everything right now.

Let's talk about another player that may be possible to come to the al hilal very soon. In my opinion that if al hilal will be able to find another super start to join in its club.

Al ahli and nassrs are still trying so hard to buy more players from EU. Ittihad has been successfully securing kante and benzema but it's not enough.

I heard that Modric has an offer for 80 + 20 million (I don't remember the details, but 20 is bonuses) and he is still thinking about it. Maybe now that Messi, in a sense, has increased the free budget for purchases by leaving for the MLS, a better offer will be made for Modric. In general, there is still a whole summer ahead, and there are already so many high-profile transitions. I hope the Saudis don't slow down Cheesy

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Quote from: asriloni on June 04, 2023, 10:04:28 AM

Here's list of players that have been linked to the arabian club

1. Benzema
2. Ramos
3. Messi
4. Busquets
5. Modric
6. Who's next?

Benzema has been deciding to follow ronaldo to go to the ittihad while modric has been also receiving very big contract from unnamed club. I hope that will be revealed soon like benzema which has been getting offer from ittihad.

So many players with big names come to the spl. That's good. Messi is likely the next one.

Karim Benzema's Al Ittihad deal confirmed. The striker left Real Madrid and joined Al Ittihad of the Saudi League. Not only Karim Benzema has joined the Saudi league from Europe, there are also chances of several famous players. Lionel Messi and Sergio Ramos are expected to join the Saudi league later on. Since Messi's situation is almost uncertain, but Sergio Ramos is very likely to join the Saudi league. So after Karim Benzema, maybe Sergio Ramos will be far ahead in the direction of the Saudi League.

Saudia is a rich state and can invest millions and billions on the players. they would also be great host and would treat their players with respect.
Life is Saudia is good too. Messi has joined inter miami now - had he been coming to Saudi Professional league there would be great matches football fans would be viewsing now all our hopes have died.

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Quote from: Masplanc on June 11, 2023, 04:17:55 AM

I thought his moving to Miami has been finalized, the saudi Arabia team needed him but he choose to play for Miami. Well if his moving to Miami is a rumour we will still get to find out the main destination of where he is going, but if it is Miami it will really help the club to gain popularity just as how Ronaldo made his Club to be more popular now .

Messi's move to the miami already finalized, and that's why intermiami already announced him as officially signed by intermiami. So many criticism has been coming towards intermiami. Even intermiami's keeper has been also critizing its team about how bad the facility that owned by intermiami itself. I just see that how kun aguero was sending the current standing if intermiami already placed at the bottom. Messi will stay there. Messi has been helping miami to gain its popularity even though messi has not been playing for intermiami.
As far as i know that if the tickets for the next seasons already sold out. CMIIW.

Messi brings so many effect to the intermiami. I think that the partnership with apple becomes a key why miami was able signing messi.

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Messi's move to Inter Miami has left everyone in a tizzy. Messi's pre-planning of his decision is now almost clear. He is focused not only on money but also on career.

Saudi clubs have invited the world's best footballers to introduce themselves to the world. Ronaldo's presence there really brought the league to the top of the discussion. If Al-Hilal club was able to get Messi in their team then maybe the league would have gained better popularity. It was thought Messi would head to Al Hilal after his official departure from PSG, but that didn't happen.

I am not very sure of this because not much he can be done at Inter Miami for his career he can't compete in the Champions League the same thing if he goes to the Saudi League so Messi must have other reasons that we cannot guess. Like what we hear in the media in the end Messi will come to the Saudi League between the next 1-2 years and that's the right time to retire.

I thought his moving to Miami has been finalized, the saudi Arabia team needed him but he choose to play for Miami. Well if his moving to Miami is a rumour we will still get to find out the main destination of where he is going, but if it is Miami it will really help the club to gain popularity just as how Ronaldo made his Club to be more popular now .

There was a documentary I read about the main reason Messi accepted Miami move. Although all the issues in the article were treated as a speculation and the heavy part of the speculation was that Messi had a deal with David Beckham about franchise and ownership of the club. I didn't get the real gist, either I read it when I was tired or sleepy. So, I am asking now if there is anything like franchise right that is included in Messi's contract with Inter Miami.
The only strong reason Messi gave was settling with his family purpose as he is getting to the age of retirement.

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Quote from: zuzie on June 10, 2023, 03:18:47 PM

Quote from: Dimitri94 on June 10, 2023, 01:18:45 AM

Messi's move to Inter Miami has left everyone in a tizzy. Messi's pre-planning of his decision is now almost clear. He is focused not only on money but also on career.

Saudi clubs have invited the world's best footballers to introduce themselves to the world. Ronaldo's presence there really brought the league to the top of the discussion. If Al-Hilal club was able to get Messi in their team then maybe the league would have gained better popularity. It was thought Messi would head to Al Hilal after his official departure from PSG, but that didn't happen.

I am not very sure of this because not much he can be done at Inter Miami for his career he can't compete in the Champions League the same thing if he goes to the Saudi League so Messi must have other reasons that we cannot guess. Like what we hear in the media in the end Messi will come to the Saudi League between the next 1-2 years and that's the right time to retire.

I thought his moving to Miami has been finalized, the saudi Arabia team needed him but he choose to play for Miami. Well if his moving to Miami is a rumour we will still get to find out the main destination of where he is going, but if it is Miami it will really help the club to gain popularity just as how Ronaldo made his Club to be more popular now .

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on June 10, 2023, 09:13:35 AM

I see now that Moutinho from Wolves could be the next to join the Saudi League. It’s a real shame Messi didn’t go there but that just proves that money can’t buy everything. It’s a really different life out there but it doesn’t seem to be stopping multiple older stars from swapping Europe for Saudi Arabia. Will be really interesting to see how the league develops over the next few years.

Saudi Arabian clubs are completely willing to pay exorbitant sums if they are interested in a player. They did it for Cristiano Ronaldo, Karim Benzema, and N'Golo Kante, and they made even larger bids for Leo Messi, who declined because he's a different breed of player, always performing at a greater level than others. The Saudi pro league has already begun to develop, with the primary objective of becoming one of the top leagues in the next five years. Despite the fact that there are rumors of another deal. Wolve crucial defender Joao Moutinho is interested in joining the Saudi Arabian squad to play alongside some of the best players in the world.

I don't know whether Messi is off so much worse because he declined the offer to go to the Saudi Professional League and instead joins the MLS. A couple of details are coming to light and he will share revenue from Apple+ subscriptions and soccer related revenue in the US from Adidas merchandise sales. The marktet in the US is anything but saturated. He will probably not reach the 500 million that are said to have been offered to him in the SPL, but he will still be making very good money. I am sure they did their projections and maths beforehand and then made the decision.

But the question is still unanswered whether this approach by Saudi clubs can ever be sustainable and how far they will go. Are they going to sign a dozen of players, or a hand full per team? Where are the limits? If they pay Kanté 100 million, how many are going to follow with such a salary?

Messi has made his choice and we must agree with him on that. Benzema made his choice by accepting to play in the Saudi Arabia because is a muslim country, Ronaldo join because he wants to transform the league to top five in the wold, which is making wave already. because of Ronaldo effect people are now considering offers from Saudi Arabia. and within five years from now, the Saudi pro league will be filled with big stars from Europe, the taxations and the city is quiet impressive.

Messi, just want to enjoy life in the USA, the Inter Miami is too small to have such a star, their stadium is an open one without security, they lacks so many facilities to have a player of his kind. But his family priority first.

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Quote from: borovichok on June 10, 2023, 09:30:01 PM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on June 10, 2023, 09:13:35 AM

I see now that Moutinho from Wolves could be the next to join the Saudi League. It’s a real shame Messi didn’t go there but that just proves that money can’t buy everything. It’s a really different life out there but it doesn’t seem to be stopping multiple older stars from swapping Europe for Saudi Arabia. Will be really interesting to see how the league develops over the next few years.

Saudi Arabian clubs are completely willing to pay exorbitant sums if they are interested in a player. They did it for Cristiano Ronaldo, Karim Benzema, and N'Golo Kante, and they made even larger bids for Leo Messi, who declined because he's a different breed of player, always performing at a greater level than others. The Saudi pro league has already begun to develop, with the primary objective of becoming one of the top leagues in the next five years. Despite the fact that there are rumors of another deal. Wolve crucial defender Joao Moutinho is interested in joining the Saudi Arabian squad to play alongside some of the best players in the world.

I don't know whether Messi is off so much worse because he declined the offer to go to the Saudi Professional League and instead joins the MLS. A couple of details are coming to light and he will share revenue from Apple+ subscriptions and soccer related revenue in the US from Adidas merchandise sales. The marktet in the US is anything but saturated. He will probably not reach the 500 million that are said to have been offered to him in the SPL, but he will still be making very good money. I am sure they did their projections and maths beforehand and then made the decision.

But the question is still unanswered whether this approach by Saudi clubs can ever be sustainable and how far they will go. Are they going to sign a dozen of players, or a hand full per team? Where are the limits? If they pay Kanté 100 million, how many are going to follow with such a salary?

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on June 10, 2023, 09:13:35 AM

I see now that Moutinho from Wolves could be the next to join the Saudi League. It’s a real shame Messi didn’t go there but that just proves that money can’t buy everything. It’s a really different life out there but it doesn’t seem to be stopping multiple older stars from swapping Europe for Saudi Arabia. Will be really interesting to see how the league develops over the next few years.

I think they will keep chasing Messi because at the end thats the legend they would be needing

Messi won't take long and retire, i'm pretty sure of that, he would either retire in Miami or maybe go back to either Barcelona or even Newell's Old Boys and reitre there, but there are still other players that they can bring to lift the league even more and make it more interesting to foreigners like Di Maria, Modric...etc

So Messi is a smart guy - he visited the places with family to decide where he would be going. Now he will play in States.
Al Hialal just failed to sign deal with him. However Al Nasser management was strong to have signed Ronaldo.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on June 10, 2023, 09:13:35 AM

I see now that Moutinho from Wolves could be the next to join the Saudi League. It’s a real shame Messi didn’t go there but that just proves that money can’t buy everything. It’s a really different life out there but it doesn’t seem to be stopping multiple older stars from swapping Europe for Saudi Arabia. Will be really interesting to see how the league develops over the next few years.

Saudi Arabian clubs are completely willing to pay exorbitant sums if they are interested in a player. They did it for Cristiano Ronaldo, Karim Benzema, and N'Golo Kante, and they made even larger bids for Leo Messi, who declined because he's a different breed of player, always performing at a greater level than others. The Saudi pro league has already begun to develop, with the primary objective of becoming one of the top leagues in the next five years. Despite the fact that there are rumors of another deal. Wolve crucial defender Joao Moutinho is interested in joining the Saudi Arabian squad to play alongside some of the best players in the world.

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N'Golo Kante will be a free transfer player this month because his contract with Chelsea will end on June 30 but there is no news about the new contract
Al Ittihad who knows Kante's status is trying to make an a offer $100 million but Kante hasn't made a decision he is still waiting for the update from Chelsea
reportedly Chelsea are willing to release Kante because he is more often injured in the last 2 years.

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