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June 14, 2023, 05:07:41 PM
Europe is surely leading football competitions around the world. The Europa League is always at the top level, they are a reference for other leagues. Almost all top players are playing in the Europe leagues, which makes Europe competitions on the other level. Because most top players there, Europe leagues become more competitive than other leagues and they have more established football teams as well. And football teams in Europe are always got sponsorships from top companies because they get a big advantage by promoting their companies with the football clubs. That makes football teams in Europe have established finances, too. We know Saudi clubs also have good finances, but the quality of players in the league is much different from the players' quality in the Europa leagues.


Yes, you're right, the European League is one of the better leagues and has more competitive competition compared to other leagues. What makes the names of soccer players famous are those who played in the European League before, such as Messi, Ronaldo and Benzema, by making stunning achievements with the big teams in Europe. So for now, haven't we heard of players in the SPL who are quite famous besides Ronaldo and Benzema.

The SPL is an Arab league and chose a different atmosphere to the Europa League and it is not worth comparing them. I think the Arab League will become the Arab League and those who play there I think their dream is to play in the highest caste, namely in the big European teams.
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June 14, 2023, 05:02:54 PM
Mourinho gave the right decision to reject Al-Ahli, we know Mourinho is still at the highest level to handle Europe's top teams and his choice to stay with Roma is proof that he will still try to bring titles to the capital team.

mourinho is probably aiming to win serie A and put rome back in the champions league, he has goals to increase his titles, this shows that his determination is stronger than money and also because he knows that if he were to arabia and something went wrong he wouldn't go back to europe and get a good team right away, so arabia would be the kind of place mourinho would only go to if he no longer had a place in europe and wanted to retire, which doesn't seem to me to be the case current scenario. speaking in arabia, does anyone know if ronaldo or al nassr's team already has a coach?

and what I've seen on the news (I don't know if this is true or just another rumour, as the news has been lying a lot lately to gain an audience, so it's hard to believe what I've seen on the news) that ronaldo was allowed to choose new players for nassr, if this is true why don't they start looking for a good coach first and then let the coach do the job he was hired for, but they want to create conflicts, if ronaldo chooses the new players and when they bring a coach, what is that coach fara on the team? I sincerely hope it's just a rumor that ronaldo is choosing the new players
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June 14, 2023, 04:36:18 PM
It is impossible for them to make Saudi Professional League as a big league like either La Liga or Premier League. Because you can not have a big league with very old players like Benzema or Cristiano, Kante. Those old players can bring some lessons to domestic players in Saudi but their performances will not be as same as when they were young years ago.

If Saudi Professional League can have players like Mbappe, many of such young super star players, they can increase the league quality a lot. Unfortunately it is impossible to convince players like Mbappe to join the league. They will want to play in Europe and win Champions League, Ballon d'Or, money is not all they want.

Young players can not grow up to super star players if they only play in Saudi or South America countries like Brazil, Argentina or Uruguay. We all see those youth players try to find their future in Europe. It is impossible to convince youth European players to join Saudi Professional League. They must build the league with their local players and players from Middle East nations.
They are not really aiming at being that good, they are aiming at top 10 for the time being, and in order to do that fame would be enough. They started this path with getting Ronaldo first, and that's a big enough name that he could make others come, now they have a few more, and that will make it so that they could get a few more.

There are a lot of great players you could convince with just 10-20 million a year, and they could get those players. This is why I honestly believe that they are going to spend a lot of time finding the right players. When they do build it, which won't be in a single season, they will be able to get into top 10, even if 10th, and that's not impossible to achieve if you spend enough amount of money.

They still won't easily overcome the problem that young and strong players won't give up a career in Europe for 10-20 million per year in Saudi Arabia because they can earn that money in Europe already. The price will stay very high for Saudi Arabian clubs to get players who are in their prime and who are outstandingly strong. Take Bellingham as an example, I wonder what a club from the SPL would have had to pay him in order to make him waive the offer from Real Madrid at this stage in his career only because he can earn more money in Saudi Arabia. He would give up on everything he dreamt of. Playing for Real Madrid in the Champions League one day and win the most important trophies in the world. Even when they paid him 50 million, he wouldn't have decided to go to the SPL. It will remain expensive for them and that can't be sustainable forever.
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June 14, 2023, 04:06:17 PM
The Asian and European castes are different in football and Europe has dominated football for a longer time, so it will be very difficult for the SPL to compete with them because this is a different regional zone.
The Saudi club have a lot of money and that's what makes their football so alive players will be attracted here because of the tempting offers, it won't be surprising to me that some other young players will be here in the future as the SPL competition is getting tougher in their league and also players are getting paid tall.
Europe is surely leading football competitions around the world. The Europa League is always at the top level, they are a reference for other leagues. Almost all top players are playing in the Europe leagues, which makes Europe competitions on the other level. Because most top players there, Europe leagues become more competitive than other leagues and they have more established football teams as well. And football teams in Europe are always got sponsorships from top companies because they get a big advantage by promoting their companies with the football clubs. That makes football teams in Europe have established finances, too. We know Saudi clubs also have good finances, but the quality of players in the league is much different from the players' quality in the Europa leagues.

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June 14, 2023, 03:41:42 PM
It is impossible for them to make Saudi Professional League as a big league like either La Liga or Premier League. Because you can not have a big league with very old players like Benzema or Cristiano, Kante. Those old players can bring some lessons to domestic players in Saudi but their performances will not be as same as when they were young years ago.

If Saudi Professional League can have players like Mbappe, many of such young super star players, they can increase the league quality a lot. Unfortunately it is impossible to convince players like Mbappe to join the league. They will want to play in Europe and win Champions League, Ballon d'Or, money is not all they want.

Young players can not grow up to super star players if they only play in Saudi or South America countries like Brazil, Argentina or Uruguay. We all see those youth players try to find their future in Europe. It is impossible to convince youth European players to join Saudi Professional League. They must build the league with their local players and players from Middle East nations.
They are not really aiming at being that good, they are aiming at top 10 for the time being, and in order to do that fame would be enough. They started this path with getting Ronaldo first, and that's a big enough name that he could make others come, now they have a few more, and that will make it so that they could get a few more.

There are a lot of great players you could convince with just 10-20 million a year, and they could get those players. This is why I honestly believe that they are going to spend a lot of time finding the right players. When they do build it, which won't be in a single season, they will be able to get into top 10, even if 10th, and that's not impossible to achieve if you spend enough amount of money.
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June 14, 2023, 03:37:49 PM
It is impossible for them to make Saudi Professional League as a big league like either La Liga or Premier League. Because you can not have a big league with very old players like Benzema or Cristiano, Kante. Those old players can bring some lessons to domestic players in Saudi but their performances will not be as same as when they were young years ago.

If Saudi Professional League can have players like Mbappe, many of such young super star players, they can increase the league quality a lot. Unfortunately it is impossible to convince players like Mbappe to join the league. They will want to play in Europe and win Champions League, Ballon d'Or, money is not all they want.

Saudi professional league can't get to the level which European football has gotten with the type of players they're going after. It'll take forever for them to achieve that although they can make their league relevant if they continue with how they're spending. Arabic money are already dominating Europe football so they should organize friendly regularly and look for the way the two continents can cross path through football. If the Saudis league can grow ti the level of Serie A then they can use their money to influence a tournament which teams from Saudi and other top European league compete then the Saudi league will be taken more seriously.

As it stands now the Saudi professional league is just been seen as a retirement league for top players and for average players to get the bag they can use for retirement. The Saudi league can't attract players like Mbappe, Mbappe is hungry for success and wants to win everything possible in football and most especially the champions league. He already has the world cup so winning the champions league is now his top priority and also winning the Ballon D'or with other individual awards.
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June 14, 2023, 12:48:26 PM
I agree that nothing can compete with the European Leagues but the Saudi League is different from other leagues like China and America.
Saudi has a pretty good football federation so there is still a big possibility that the Saudi League will develop in the future.
Even though they are not yet able to compete and surpass the European Leagues, at least the Saudi League is increasingly known and liked by football fans.
The Asian and European castes are different in football and Europe has dominated football for a longer time, so it will be very difficult for the SPL to compete with them because this is a different regional zone.
The Saudi club have a lot of money and that's what makes their football so alive players will be attracted here because of the tempting offers, it won't be surprising to me that some other young players will be here in the future as the SPL competition is getting tougher in their league and also players are getting paid tall.
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June 14, 2023, 12:45:58 PM
It is quite clear that the reason why Mahrez turned down the offer was because he was still in his best form in Europe and there was no way he would give up what he had achieved this season with Manchester City to go to Al-Ahli. It seems that Al-Ahli will continue to look for other European candidates who want to join and it might be quite difficult because they are also a promoted team for next season's SPL. Mourinho gave the right decision to reject Al-Ahli, we know Mourinho is still at the highest level to handle Europe's top teams and his choice to stay with Roma is proof that he will still try to bring titles to the capital team.

It seems, currently there is a Saudi trend. Al Nassr with Ronaldo, Al Ittihad with Karim Benzema and currently Al Hilal and Al Ahli are trying to bring in other stars. before Mahrez, it was also rumored that Aubameyang would be brought in by Al Ahli or Al Shabab. however, there has been no continuation regarding this rumor.

Now, Al-Ahli is trying to win over Riyad Mahrez. however, as quoted by Fabrizio Romano, any Saudi party interested in signing Riyad Mahrez received a clear message from Man City: an important fee will be required. a subsequent tweet, Saudi side Al Ahli interest in Riyad Mahrez, confirmed and concrete as they want to sign the Algerian star - but Manchester City have not been approached at this stage. Manchester City will need a consistent fee for Mahrez, no chance of letting him go for free.

Seems like this is a signal, that Manchester City could just let him go. however, I haven't tried to read the news that Mahrez has turned it down. it is possible, that the news is not true.
By the way, I'm pretty sure that Al Shabab, Al Hilal and Al Ahli, will be hunting for some European star players to add to the excitement of the Saudi Pro League competition.
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June 14, 2023, 12:44:32 PM
It is true that money is man's greatest friend in life. But some cases may have unique reasons. Here, Benzema has come to the Saudi league not just for money, but also for unique reasons. In the beginning, Benzema says that he is a Muslim, being a Muslim he wanted to live in a Muslim country. So what do you think Benzema came here to the Saudi League for money?

It is not bad if he had stated before that he is a Muslim and would want to live in a Muslim country. Everyone wants to be close to their loved ones and to be around by others who share their religion and appreciate them. If Benzema intended to leave Spain for religious reasons rather than money, he would have left sooner; everyone remains where they are respected and appreciate their religion and I’m sure he was well respected in Spain. The truth is that Benzema has achieved everything he desired in Europe and needs to test another league, which is why he joined the Saudi team. The money part is an added advantage to him.

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On the other hand I give an example like Messi left PSG to Inter Miami but for a very low salary. Messi was offered much more money by the Saudi club than Miami, but he joined the Miami club instead of going to the Saudi club. From here it can be understood that people do not do everything for money.

You can't be confident about the hidden offer he received from Inter Miami; we're only permitted to know what they want us to know about the agreement. Messi's move to that club will earn him so much money that even after he retires from football, he will be earning as if he is still a player. I'm confident he received a higher offer from Inter Miami than from the Saudi club.
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June 14, 2023, 12:26:44 PM
@zuzie their intent is very clear that they want to make SPL even bigger then the Premier League and the La Liga hence I believe that they’ll keep acquiring young and old stars from these two leagues primarily. Furthermore Messi isn’t coming but I won’t be surprised if several young star’s ditch their clubs and move to SPL because they can always return back in a year or two but they won’t get this kind of money elsewhere.

No, no league can compete with the leagues in Europe so if the goal is to compete clearly it is wrong they want to attract attention with a mission
SPL isn't the first to do this previously there were leagues in China and America doing the same thing and we know what happened is only temporary
In addition, young players who leave the European leagues will no longer get a place there we already have many examples.
I agree that nothing can compete with the European Leagues but the Saudi League is different from other leagues like China and America.
Saudi has a pretty good football federation so there is still a big possibility that the Saudi League will develop in the future.
Even though they are not yet able to compete and surpass the European Leagues, at least the Saudi League is increasingly known and liked by football fans.
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June 14, 2023, 11:53:02 AM
@zuzie their intent is very clear that they want to make SPL even bigger then the Premier League and the La Liga hence I believe that they’ll keep acquiring young and old stars from these two leagues primarily. Furthermore Messi isn’t coming but I won’t be surprised if several young star’s ditch their clubs and move to SPL because they can always return back in a year or two but they won’t get this kind of money elsewhere.

No, no league can compete with the leagues in Europe so if the goal is to compete clearly it is wrong they want to attract attention with a mission
SPL isn't the first to do this previously there were leagues in China and America doing the same thing and we know what happened is only temporary
In addition, young players who leave the European leagues will no longer get a place there we already have many examples.

Yes, it's true, after all at this moment there is still Ronaldo who is still playing at Al-Nassr and that still makes the Saudi Professional League still look attractive. But just wait, if later Ronaldo leaves the Saudi Professional League, whether it's playing in another league or retiring, then I'm sure the Saudi Professional League might experience something similar to what has happened in China and America. Also, the big teams in the English Premier League are now getting bigger after many big investors have entered and with that, I also agree that there is no other league that can compete with the competition and excitement of the European leagues.
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June 14, 2023, 10:16:35 AM
@zuzie their intent is very clear that they want to make SPL even bigger then the Premier League and the La Liga hence I believe that they’ll keep acquiring young and old stars from these two leagues primarily. Furthermore Messi isn’t coming but I won’t be surprised if several young star’s ditch their clubs and move to SPL because they can always return back in a year or two but they won’t get this kind of money elsewhere.

No, no league can compete with the leagues in Europe so if the goal is to compete clearly it is wrong they want to attract attention with a mission
SPL isn't the first to do this previously there were leagues in China and America doing the same thing and we know what happened is only temporary
In addition, young players who leave the European leagues will no longer get a place there we already have many examples.
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June 14, 2023, 08:51:51 AM
I just heard about this and if I'm not mistaken Al-Ahli is a club in the 1st division of the saudi league which will begin promotion to the SPL next season. It seems they don't want to lose to the competition from other Saudi clubs who are competing to be able to bring in coaches or top players from Europe.
Apart from that, I've also heard other rumors that they just made an offer worth £85 million over 3 years for Riyad Mahrez from Manchester City and it seems very unlikely for Al-Ahli if they want to sign a European player with such a problematic track record.
Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12185171/Saudi-Al-Ahli-lining-Riyad-Mahrez-ready-hand-three-year-deal.html
I knew that too. Even al ahli's president was going to the london to discuss mahrez's transfer but i think that mahrez may not interest to join in al ahli. He has a great season with manchester city. It's unlikely mahrez will accept offer from al ahli.
Jose mourinho has been also getting an offer from al ahli but he was rejecting al ahli's offer and stay even longer in the as roma.
The player needs to see the track record from the club first.
It is quite clear that the reason why Mahrez turned down the offer was because he was still in his best form in Europe and there was no way he would give up what he had achieved this season with Manchester City to go to Al-Ahli. It seems that Al-Ahli will continue to look for other European candidates who want to join and it might be quite difficult because they are also a promoted team for next season's SPL. Mourinho gave the right decision to reject Al-Ahli, we know Mourinho is still at the highest level to handle Europe's top teams and his choice to stay with Roma is proof that he will still try to bring titles to the capital team.
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June 14, 2023, 08:08:36 AM
@zuzie their intent is very clear that they want to make SPL even bigger then the Premier League and the La Liga hence I believe that they’ll keep acquiring young and old stars from these two leagues primarily. Furthermore Messi isn’t coming but I won’t be surprised if several young star’s ditch their clubs and move to SPL because they can always return back in a year or two but they won’t get this kind of money elsewhere.
It is impossible for them to make Saudi Professional League as a big league like either La Liga or Premier League. Because you can not have a big league with very old players like Benzema or Cristiano, Kante. Those old players can bring some lessons to domestic players in Saudi but their performances will not be as same as when they were young years ago.

If Saudi Professional League can have players like Mbappe, many of such young super star players, they can increase the league quality a lot. Unfortunately it is impossible to convince players like Mbappe to join the league. They will want to play in Europe and win Champions League, Ballon d'Or, money is not all they want.

Young players can not grow up to super star players if they only play in Saudi or South America countries like Brazil, Argentina or Uruguay. We all see those youth players try to find their future in Europe. It is impossible to convince youth European players to join Saudi Professional League. They must build the league with their local players and players from Middle East nations.
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June 14, 2023, 08:01:29 AM
Man, the transfer market is not over anything can happen on the last day we still remember when Ronaldo surprisingly moved to AL Nassr
So they can do it this season let's just wait for the announcement, I believe money is not the main problem because we know who's behind this club
what is clear is that old players will be the target of Saudi clubs at least for players over 30 years old.

Th amount of money being splashed by these Arabs doesn't make any sense. I understand that Lionel Messi is one of the best in the world. But an offer of $1.2 billion for two years sounds illogical for me. When they are spending so much money, ROI is not a concern for them. In all probability they are not going to earn even half of that amount from SPL. The real aim is to improve the reputation of the country, so that they stand a chance to win the bid to host FIFA World Cup in 2030. And I have to say that Saudi Arabia is moving in the right direction as of now.

This is not a new rumour, we already know their ambitions and goals obviously they want to get feedback from the other side not just football
Anyway, in the next few years they will continue to prepare surprises in every season one of them is an attempt to bring Messi to the Saudi League
maybe this year they failed but who knows next year right? I'm sure this season there are still other surprises that we are waiting for.

@zuzie their intent is very clear that they want to make SPL even bigger then the Premier League and the La Liga hence I believe that they’ll keep acquiring young and old stars from these two leagues primarily. Furthermore Messi isn’t coming but I won’t be surprised if several young star’s ditch their clubs and move to SPL because they can always return back in a year or two but they won’t get this kind of money elsewhere.
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June 14, 2023, 07:51:16 AM
Money is what inspires a player to do more and makes him happier. In our careers or profession,we go for higher bidders than lower bidders and we also hope to move up higher everyday by day that is why there are promotions in offices to show that you deserve it from you commitment and faithfulness to the company. Benzema needs promotion in his career and in football what is promotion,is when a club values your worth and pays you higher than the club that you are. Benzema didn't go there for religious purpose,he went there to be more successful financially. He did the right move,Ronaldo was what the Saudis used first to entice the rest players. I wouldn't be surprise,if SPL becomes more popular than some leagues.

Several top players have been drawn and gone to the SPL, and it is very likely that the SPL will have a great chance to become popular, Ronaldo was the first top player to be brought to the league, and was followed by Benzema and also several other players who were brought to the SPL. to bring in some of the other top players I think regarding financial problems they will not be constrained by this, they have a large enough fee to make the club and even the league successful from them.
Al-Nassr's move to bring Cristiano Ronaldo to the Saudi Pro League is like the first step to bringing in more of the world's top players to the Arab League. And maybe in the coming season there will be more of the world's top players who are also interested in joining the Arab league club. Actually, Real Madrid players who were offered by Arab clubs were not only Benzema, but Luka Modric was also offered by one of the Arab clubs. it's just that Luka Modric prefers to stay at Real Madrid and extend his contract there. But I think Benzema already has quite a lot of achievements at Real Madrid so it's only natural that currently Benzema is more focused on being attracted to a club that dares to value him higher. And Benzema is also likely to adapt more easily at the al-ittihad club because he is a Muslim so that communication with fellow Al-ittihad players will also be more easily established and intimate.
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June 14, 2023, 04:28:51 AM
Man, the transfer market is not over anything can happen on the last day we still remember when Ronaldo surprisingly moved to AL Nassr
So they can do it this season let's just wait for the announcement, I believe money is not the main problem because we know who's behind this club
what is clear is that old players will be the target of Saudi clubs at least for players over 30 years old.

Th amount of money being splashed by these Arabs doesn't make any sense. I understand that Lionel Messi is one of the best in the world. But an offer of $1.2 billion for two years sounds illogical for me. When they are spending so much money, ROI is not a concern for them. In all probability they are not going to earn even half of that amount from SPL. The real aim is to improve the reputation of the country, so that they stand a chance to win the bid to host FIFA World Cup in 2030. And I have to say that Saudi Arabia is moving in the right direction as of now.

This is not a new rumour, we already know their ambitions and goals obviously they want to get feedback from the other side not just football
Anyway, in the next few years they will continue to prepare surprises in every season one of them is an attempt to bring Messi to the Saudi League
maybe this year they failed but who knows next year right? I'm sure this season there are still other surprises that we are waiting for.
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June 14, 2023, 03:04:12 AM
Man, the transfer market is not over anything can happen on the last day we still remember when Ronaldo surprisingly moved to AL Nassr
So they can do it this season let's just wait for the announcement, I believe money is not the main problem because we know who's behind this club
what is clear is that old players will be the target of Saudi clubs at least for players over 30 years old.

Th amount of money being splashed by these Arabs doesn't make any sense. I understand that Lionel Messi is one of the best in the world. But an offer of $1.2 billion for two years sounds illogical for me. When they are spending so much money, ROI is not a concern for them. In all probability they are not going to earn even half of that amount from SPL. The real aim is to improve the reputation of the country, so that they stand a chance to win the bid to host FIFA World Cup in 2030. And I have to say that Saudi Arabia is moving in the right direction as of now.
Where the big countries of the world and their clubs did not dare to make such a big offer, but the Saudi clubs are showing that courage. I'm sure the Saudi government has a different plan for football. As they are economically prosperous they have taken such steps to introduce their country to the world. They are doing well in their pursuit of goals, even if they don't get Messi for a big offer. Most football fans believe that by 2030 Saudi Arabia will be able to create one of the leading positions in football.
After the Saudi Arabia League Qatar World Cup ended, they turned their attention to football. They have thought deeply about their country's aim to be known to the world and the Saudi government has more plans. Economically, Saudi Arabia is currently very advanced, already the world's biggest football stars have signed contracts. But they gave more offers to Messi but he didn't go to the Saudi League.But I think the Saudi League is in the current position and in the future they will become the best in the world. Because the Saudi government is currently more fond of football than other managements. This means that the way the Saudi league is offering money to sign football stars will definitely become a popular league in the future.
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June 14, 2023, 01:21:32 AM

Maybe yes, because everything we say is an assumption. included, as you said. and even we agree, that the reason that is closest to reality is a fantastic salary. in theory, at the end of his career, Benzema will not earn as much as he would with his new club Al Ittihad. the fact is, that money is the real trigger. it's just that, we also can not rule out other supporting factors. apart from his age and the money factor in return for accepting the offer, cultural factors were also one of the factors that made Benzema willing to leave Real Madrid. at least, it makes more sense if we refer to multiple approaches from various factors regardless of the salary offered. because, there are many considerations for European stars to refuse to play in the competition. one of them, the issue of sharia law which is not as free as in Europe. not to mention, cultural and language issues. I'm pretty sure Messi has also previously considered it from all aspects until he chose MLS.
I actually can't wait to see how Benzema and his new team, Al Ittihad, will look at Al Nassr, which is occupied by CR7. and to be honest I support benzema with her choice by moving to al ittihad and receiving a fantastic salary because indeed at her old age, money is the most logical thing

Competitive leagues are essential for football players at the moment. The Saudi Arabian league can be challenging, but it's a not-so-great league and every footballer's dream is to play in the Premier League. Therefore, although the priority for young players is not the Saudi Arabian league, it is a league where very profitable deals can be made for players like Benzema, whose football life is about to end. It will probably go on like this for a long time.
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June 14, 2023, 01:18:31 AM
Man, the transfer market is not over anything can happen on the last day we still remember when Ronaldo surprisingly moved to AL Nassr
So they can do it this season let's just wait for the announcement, I believe money is not the main problem because we know who's behind this club
what is clear is that old players will be the target of Saudi clubs at least for players over 30 years old.

Th amount of money being splashed by these Arabs doesn't make any sense. I understand that Lionel Messi is one of the best in the world. But an offer of $1.2 billion for two years sounds illogical for me. When they are spending so much money, ROI is not a concern for them. In all probability they are not going to earn even half of that amount from SPL. The real aim is to improve the reputation of the country, so that they stand a chance to win the bid to host FIFA World Cup in 2030. And I have to say that Saudi Arabia is moving in the right direction as of now.
Where the big countries of the world and their clubs did not dare to make such a big offer, but the Saudi clubs are showing that courage. I'm sure the Saudi government has a different plan for football. As they are economically prosperous they have taken such steps to introduce their country to the world. They are doing well in their pursuit of goals, even if they don't get Messi for a big offer. Most football fans believe that by 2030 Saudi Arabia will be able to create one of the leading positions in football.
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