1: We have new software that is all ready to go. The software isn't really the hard part, it's more about operations and making sure it runs smoothly.
Does your software have the same features which made people continue using MtGox despite all the problems? Like APIs over multiple protocols, better than all the other exchanges APIs combined, and and multi-currency trading within the same orderbook? 
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Was there any information released regarding how Sunlot would convert the BTC balances into equity stakes?
For obvious reasons, I had only BTC left inside Gox. But for the same reason, those don't worth much if you count their ~100 $/BTC closing price.
For obvious reasons, I had only BTC left inside Gox. But for the same reason, those don't worth much if you count their ~100 $/BTC closing price.
We're using a $500 per coin basis.
Cheers,
Mr. Gay-Bouchery and Mr. McCaleb are said to be defendants in the earlier class-action suit (whose terms I have not had time to read yet) and to agree with this plan. If this deal is approved by the court, will they be freed of any responsibility for their roles in MtGOX's collapse?
Q: Why are you working with Jed McCaleb and Gonzague Gay-Bouchery?
This process takes pragmatism rather than idealism, and without a deal, the assets will be liquidated and customers will have no recourse. We all want an outlet for our anger and frustration, and we all want retribution, but the immediate goal at hand is to get a deal done to avoid liquidation, because once that happens the company is gone and there will be no standing left to go after Mark or investigate the lost coins.
Q: What do Jed and GGB get out of the deal?
In return for their full cooperation in recovery and prosecution of those responsible, we have agreed to release both defendants from the claims in the lawsuit.
Hi Jon,
Q1) Will you be using new software or are you going to use existing software for the bitcoin trading platform?
Q2) Are you the Jon that was in the Google Hangout Talk? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vxJNgLibP4)
Q1) Will you be using new software or are you going to use existing software for the bitcoin trading platform?
Q2) Are you the Jon that was in the Google Hangout Talk? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vxJNgLibP4)
1: We have new software that is all ready to go. The software isn't really the hard part, it's more about operations and making sure it runs smoothly.
2: Yes
@ John
There's a statement i really'd like to have confirmed:
is this true? I live in Switzerland and you will just keep my money cause i'm not from US/Canada?
I really apreciate the efforts you do, but there are so many informations, that make you less and less trustworthy.
There's a statement i really'd like to have confirmed:
It only compensates people from US / Canada.
The majority of the MtGox customers were foreigners (including me).
These foreign customers are not included in this Class Action
The majority of the MtGox customers were foreigners (including me).
These foreign customers are not included in this Class Action
is this true? I live in Switzerland and you will just keep my money cause i'm not from US/Canada?
I really apreciate the efforts you do, but there are so many informations, that make you less and less trustworthy.
Uh, the class action is only affecting the customers in that suit.
Our proposal is for all customers. Everyone will get paid back regardless of country of residence.
This, too, may work: http://archive.today/mark-karpeles.com
Yes, thanks! Those are the pages I was referring to.
What was that site? And does anyone have a copy of the database that was involved?
The database has been saved by many people I suppose (but not me, sorry) and may be still available; google for "Mt.GOX leak".The site was http://mark-karpeles.com/ but that URL now points to a form ostensibly created by Mark Karpeles for clients to confirm their claims against MtGOX. Careful, it smells of a phishing attempt and it may be illegal since creditors should probably contact the bankruptcy court/executors rather than the unknown author of a dubious webpage.
http://web.archive.org/web/20140413182219/http://mark-karpeles.com/
This, too, may work: http://archive.today/mark-karpeles.com
What was that site? And does anyone have a copy of the database that was involved?
The database has been saved by many people I suppose (but not me, sorry) and may be still available; google for "Mt.GOX leak".The site was http://mark-karpeles.com/ but that URL now points to a form ostensibly created by Mark Karpeles for clients to confirm their claims against MtGOX. Careful, it smells of a phishing attempt and it may be illegal since creditors should probably contact the bankruptcy court/executors rather than the unknown author of a dubious webpage.
I have a copy of the database, if that's what desired.
Thanks for searching the archive. The pages I mentioned were at that URL on 2014-03-12, but unfortunately were either taken down that same day, or were purged later from the Web Archive.
Here is a post to another thread that mentions that analysis: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5665606
Here is a post to another thread that mentions that analysis: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5665606
What was that site? And does anyone have a copy of the database that was involved?
The database has been saved by many people I suppose (but not me, sorry) and may be still available; google for "Mt.GOX leak".The site was http://mark-karpeles.com/ but that URL now points to a form ostensibly created by Mark Karpeles for clients to confirm their claims against MtGOX. Careful, it smells of a phishing attempt and it may be illegal since creditors should probably contact the bankruptcy court/executors rather than the unknown author of a dubious webpage.
http://web.archive.org/web/20140413182219/http://mark-karpeles.com/
What was that site? And does anyone have a copy of the database that was involved?
The database has been saved by many people I suppose (but not me, sorry) and may be still available; google for "Mt.GOX leak".The site was http://mark-karpeles.com/ but that URL now points to a form ostensibly created by Mark Karpeles for clients to confirm their claims against MtGOX. Careful, it smells of a phishing attempt and it may be illegal since creditors should probably contact the bankruptcy court/executors rather than the unknown author of a dubious webpage.
What was that site? And does anyone have a copy of the database that was involved?
The database has been saved by many people I suppose (but not me, sorry) and may be still available; google for "Mt.GOX leak".The site was http://mark-karpeles.com/ but that URL now points to a form ostensibly created by Mark Karpeles for clients to confirm their claims against MtGOX. Careful, it smells of a phishing attempt and it may be illegal since creditors should probably contact the bankruptcy court/executors rather than the unknown author of a dubious webpage.
But the experts can be hired by the police or the court, preferably prior to any settlement. There is no reason to accept the terrible deal proposed by Sunlot Holdings to hire experts.
Yes, definitely, that is what I meant. If MtGOX is revived, by Sunlot or any other party, it is very unlikely that the new management will solve the crime. Even less likely than the intenet detectives. Soon after the MtGOX database leak, a website came up that posted some tantalising results, such as the identities of the most successful traders. The website was suddenly taken down by the author without explanation.
What was that site? And does anyone have a copy of the database that was involved?
If they deliberately disclose any of the personal details you would need from their accounting system, like bitcoin addresses conected to specific accounts, I am going to sue them to hell and back. Please list all your own details here, if this is important to you, and people can start digging from that.
Unclear what you consider personal details here. Simply the fact that a particular bitcoin address was used to withdraw funds from a specific Mt. Gox account?
The police can get subpoena all the internal accounting records, emails, and bank records of MtGOX and any persons they have evidence to suspect. They can get connection logs and access non-public databases of various relevant data. These things alone gives them immensurably more chances of finding the culprit than all the internet detectives put together.
A hired expert will have access to all that data. Plus he will have the obligation to work hard to get to the bottom of things and avoid half-baked conclusions, PLUS he will not have to fear being sued by the people he finds evidence against, PLUS he will not be easily bribed by guilty parties. (Soon after the MtGOX database leak, a website came up that posted some tantalising results, such as the identities of the most successful traders. The website was suddenly taken down by the author without explanation.)
I repeat my question: what useful results have the crowd detectives obtained so far, in this or in any other bitcoin scam?
But the experts can be hired by the police or the court, preferably prior to any settlement. There is no reason to accept the terrible deal proposed by Sunlot Holdings to hire experts.
Blockchain analysis can only go so far, but it does reveal some parameters of the puzzle. We need access to MtGox's accounting system. With that, we'd figure it out much faster than any cybercrime police team would. We are far greater in number and experience.
You place too much faith in authority. Hiring an expert in a field who does it for the money does not compare to the power the Internet has in bringing together the top experts, and this is especially true for something like cryptocurrency.
The police can get subpoena all the internal accounting records, emails, and bank records of MtGOX and any persons they have evidence to suspect. They can get connection logs and access non-public databases of various relevant data. These things alone gives them immensurably more chances of finding the culprit than all the internet detectives put together.You place too much faith in authority. Hiring an expert in a field who does it for the money does not compare to the power the Internet has in bringing together the top experts, and this is especially true for something like cryptocurrency.
A hired expert will have access to all that data. Plus he will have the obligation to work hard to get to the bottom of things and avoid half-baked conclusions, PLUS he will not have to fear being sued by the people he finds evidence against, PLUS he will not be easily bribed by guilty parties. (Soon after the MtGOX database leak, a website came up that posted some tantalising results, such as the identities of the most successful traders. The website was suddenly taken down by the author without explanation.)
I repeat my question: what useful results have the crowd detectives obtained so far, in this or in any other bitcoin scam?
Blockchain analysis can only go so far, but it does reveal some parameters of the puzzle. We need access to MtGox's accounting system. With that, we'd figure it out much faster than any cybercrime police team would. We are far greater in number and experience.
If they deliberately disclose any of the personal details you would need from their accounting system, like bitcoin addresses conected to specific accounts, I am going to sue them to hell and back. Please list all your own details here, if this is important to you, and people can start digging from that. Jump to: