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March 03, 2017, 08:16:50 PM
That's a good question.  Due to the design of bitcoin, it is a bit difficult to "loan" them (remember that banking is effectively a loan where the bank pays you interest).

Now, that's more on the theoretical side of things.  In practice, a major problem with loans in Bitcoin are the volatile price.  If the price rises suddenly, it could become more difficult to pay back interest; or alternatively if the price takes a heavy drop, the investor may lose money as what he is paid is less valuable now than it was at initial investment.
why is it difficult? it is the same as lending money. when someone files for a loan, bank reviews their application takes a collateral and gives the loan and then takes it back on intervals.
and price is no matter, because they lend bitcoin and receive bitcoin. and this can only happen in the future when mass adoption happened and price is already high and stable.

it is like lending USD and then USD price going down versus another currency!! that has no effect on how lending goes.

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Bitcoins are not fiat, and therefore, can not be continuously printed.  Because of this, no one can guarantee to indefinitely keep paying out interest on loaned coins.  A horribly exaggerated example, just to make a point, is that if I somehow had 20,000,000 bitcoins in a bank, they could never pay me more than 1,000,000 total in interest just because of the limited supply.
bad example. if someone has 20 mil coins it means bitcoin is dead since 1 person controls all the supply and nobody takes a loan Cheesy


Good points, BTCLovingDude.  I'm not sure I follow what you mean with regards to the USD price being less than another currency.  If you loan USD and are getting paid back in USD, I'm afraid I can't see where the "other currency" comes into play.  In my example, I meant a "pure" bitcoin loan where you loan X bitcoins and get Y coins back at regular intervals in interest, without translating to another currency.

As for part 2, guilty as charged.  That is a bad example indeed.  It was hyperbole to make my point.  If there are only 21 million bitcoins in existece, and we're not continually printing them up, we can't guarantee interest back on investments indefinitely.  Of course, short term investments should work just fine.

It's a good idea. Must work hard in able to save bitcoins. Bitcoins is such a beautiful idea kind of new currency. With bitcoin it has many advantages. If you start saving now in the future the value of it will be raise and if you already have many in the future you will be a millionaire. And it's because of your hardwork and patience. You'll be able to sustain you everyday need and probably in the future you'll able to buy all the things that you want. But remember if you saving bitcoin, don't forget to make a bussiness or investing it so that even if your using it still it earns and double. Goodluck to all who wish to save bitcoins. Smiley
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March 03, 2017, 08:03:37 PM
Saving of bitcoin may lead one to profit or loss it can not be predicted because its rate is changing and may increase or decrease. But saving for future is good thing so saving of bitcoins is good.  Cheesy
save bitcoin will not make you lose, because you will avoid scam and losses. for storing bitcoin will certainly benefit, because the future will be bright and certainly bitcoin already guaranteed price will be higher than now

Yup as we are seeing that the price of bitcoin getting higher and higher so its a smart investment to make as price will be much higher in future so its good to save as many bitcoins as possible as it has a potential to give us returns beyond our imagination.
yes i also think so that holding bitcoin in the present time will be more beneficial in future. i think it is very easy to buy bitcoin right now. because the price of bitcoin is currently very low and i think every one at least  can afford bitcoin to buy a little amount of bitcoin. and then holding it for a long time can give a good profit.
agreed, holding was a big factr to anyone here in bitcoin world. It is like you are saving money in your own storage  wallet which as time goes by your capital getting had interest depemding on the volume market that will get in into bitcoin.
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March 03, 2017, 04:59:40 PM
No banks for bitcoins is available by this time.Just an bitcoin wallet and when comes to deposit rate there is no minimum deposit rate
You are right if someone is looking for a bitcoin bank then for them nowadays there is only one type of banks for bitcoin and that is online wallets in which they can store their bitcoins like banks but they will not get the profit what the fiat banks are giving.

If you look at certain exchanges, then they allow you to store your coins in return for a certain interest rate. I don't see why at some point wallet services can't do the exact same thing. But then again, no service will just hand you over interest without them putting your stored coins to work in one way or another. It requires you to thoroughly check their TOS in order to know what the actual risks are.
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March 03, 2017, 04:57:49 PM
If I decided to save bitcoins in bank, how will deposit rate be changed compared to dollar or other currencies? Will it have much lower percent?

Hello, we don't have any online bank in bitcoin. Or if you like you can try Xapo, Coinbase to entrust your bitcoin to them, because they are both bitcoin bank style, which also both centralized. but the disadvantages is once you didn't meet their requirements, they can closed your account anytime. That's all what I know about it, just correct me if someone find that I am wrong. Thanks Smiley
I never thought we have to have some requirements to open an account with Xapo or coinbase as i am using their service for a long time and i never had an issue with them till now,can you explain what you really meant by it.For me Bank means a financial institute that accepts deposit from the public and creates credit but i am not sure how that will fit in with the above service.
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March 03, 2017, 04:55:31 PM
If I decided to save bitcoins in bank, how will deposit rate be changed compared to dollar or other currencies? Will it have much lower percent?

Hello, we don't have any online bank in bitcoin. Or if you like you can try Xapo, Coinbase to entrust your bitcoin to them, because they are both bitcoin bank style, which also both centralized. but the disadvantages is once you didn't meet their requirements, they can closed your account anytime. That's all what I know about it, just correct me if someone find that I am wrong. Thanks Smiley

There is haobtc also, a chinese wallet paying interest, it's the feature more similar to a bank that I found here. They look to be a trusted business and they are in the mining sector also, just saw positive reviews about them.
But don't expect to earn much interest from it, it's just better than nothing, as your money in another wallets isn't growing.
For me i don't trust those online bank's if there is no proof of their licence online or they had a business certificate locally that they had a bitcoin bank online..
Like coinbase they have many issue if the price is going to increase the support of coinbase are the same as support of yobit. i heard many issue about their service.

Also in Xapo in my own experience i have my wallet there and never open again due to their security reason i cant log in because the sms verification never fix in my side never receive any verification in my number or even in email..  So if you really want to save your bitcoins better to think twice and look for most people use.. like now i am now using electrum even i am paying for fee for every transaction it is more safe than online wallet..
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March 03, 2017, 04:43:45 PM
No banks for bitcoins is available by this time.Just an bitcoin wallet and when comes to deposit rate there is no minimum deposit rate
You are right if someone is looking for a bitcoin bank then for them nowadays there is only one type of banks for bitcoin and that is online wallets in which they can store their bitcoins like banks but they will not get the profit what the fiat banks are giving.
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March 03, 2017, 04:23:01 PM
If I decided to save bitcoins in bank, how will deposit rate be changed compared to dollar or other currencies? Will it have much lower percent?

Hello, we don't have any online bank in bitcoin. Or if you like you can try Xapo, Coinbase to entrust your bitcoin to them, because they are both bitcoin bank style, which also both centralized. but the disadvantages is once you didn't meet their requirements, they can closed your account anytime. That's all what I know about it, just correct me if someone find that I am wrong. Thanks Smiley

There is haobtc also, a chinese wallet paying interest, it's the feature more similar to a bank that I found here. They look to be a trusted business and they are in the mining sector also, just saw positive reviews about them.
But don't expect to earn much interest from it, it's just better than nothing, as your money in another wallets isn't growing.
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March 03, 2017, 04:18:20 PM
No banks for bitcoins is available by this time.Just an bitcoin wallet and when comes to deposit rate there is no minimum deposit rate
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March 03, 2017, 04:16:45 PM
If I decided to save bitcoins in bank, how will deposit rate be changed compared to dollar or other currencies? Will it have much lower percent?

Hello, we don't have any online bank in bitcoin. Or if you like you can try Xapo, Coinbase to entrust your bitcoin to them, because they are both bitcoin bank style, which also both centralized. but the disadvantages is once you didn't meet their requirements, they can closed your account anytime. That's all what I know about it, just correct me if someone find that I am wrong. Thanks Smiley
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March 03, 2017, 03:54:29 PM
Saving of bitcoin may lead one to profit or loss it can not be predicted because its rate is changing and may increase or decrease. But saving for future is good thing so saving of bitcoins is good.  Cheesy
save bitcoin will not make you lose, because you will avoid scam and losses. for storing bitcoin will certainly benefit, because the future will be bright and certainly bitcoin already guaranteed price will be higher than now

Yup as we are seeing that the price of bitcoin getting higher and higher so its a smart investment to make as price will be much higher in future so its good to save as many bitcoins as possible as it has a potential to give us returns beyond our imagination.
yes i also think so that holding bitcoin in the present time will be more beneficial in future. i think it is very easy to buy bitcoin right now. because the price of bitcoin is currently very low and i think every one at least  can afford bitcoin to buy a little amount of bitcoin. and then holding it for a long time can give a good profit.

I do not think that now the price of Bitcoin low. On the contrary, it has grown rapidly and it is not necessary to make the purchase right now. I am confident that soon it will decline slightly and then you can buy cryptocurrency
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March 03, 2017, 02:06:24 PM
If I decided to save bitcoins in bank, how will deposit rate be changed compared to dollar or other currencies? Will it have much lower percent?

You can only do save bitcoin by keeping in the bitcoin storage wallet, but at the present happening now we don't have any bank that accepting bitcoin.
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March 03, 2017, 11:42:01 AM
Saving of bitcoin may lead one to profit or loss it can not be predicted because its rate is changing and may increase or decrease. But saving for future is good thing so saving of bitcoins is good.  Cheesy
save bitcoin will not make you lose, because you will avoid scam and losses. for storing bitcoin will certainly benefit, because the future will be bright and certainly bitcoin already guaranteed price will be higher than now

Yup as we are seeing that the price of bitcoin getting higher and higher so its a smart investment to make as price will be much higher in future so its good to save as many bitcoins as possible as it has a potential to give us returns beyond our imagination.
yes i also think so that holding bitcoin in the present time will be more beneficial in future. i think it is very easy to buy bitcoin right now. because the price of bitcoin is currently very low and i think every one at least  can afford bitcoin to buy a little amount of bitcoin. and then holding it for a long time can give a good profit.

If you have excess money or savings in large quantities, you are able to convert it from now, while I can't do the same thing, because it collided with some credit and bills for each month. But I also believe that bitcoin value will continue rising in future, then in accordance with science of trade, something valuable if scarce, its value will grow in line with demand.

The demand of bitcoin is increasing at a moment and we can expect the same thing in future too which will have positive impact on the price of bitcoins so its good invest some money in bitcoins at a moment and save bitcoins for future to get best returns from it.
yes there is no doubt about that, bitcoin demand is continously increasing and we can hope that the bitcoin progress trend will continue for a long long time. as we can see that the price of bitcoin is very near to 1300USD and hope that in next few months the price of bitcoin will cross 1500 USD in next few months.
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March 03, 2017, 11:23:44 AM
You know on one bank accept the bitcoins, we can't deposit bitcoins into bank. So it is useless to discuses about profit rate from bank. But we could safe our bitcoins into our wallets, and it is safe-sound. And good thing about bitcoin is that whenever bitcoin price increased then we could make profit from it.   
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March 03, 2017, 02:18:11 AM
If I decided to save bitcoins in bank, how will deposit rate be changed compared to dollar or other currencies? Will it have much lower percent?
You can save your bitcoins on a paper wallet and this paper on your bank.
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March 02, 2017, 10:58:47 PM
You can't save bitcoin like fiat currencies in a bank .
It is totally Decentralised.
You can keep it in your bitcoin( mostly blockchain wallet)
And use it when you want it.
Talking about interests, you do not get any interest for keeping your money on blockchain.
But the cost of bitcoins is increasing so rapidly that it is like an investment,
You can purchase bitcoins today and keep it with you and on the right time sell it.
You will gain a lot a the cost of bitcoins would have increased drastically by the time you sell it.
You can consider it as an interest in fact ,
It would be more than the interest you get from bank

If one is keeping their bitcoins in their wallet then they might not get direct returns such as interest but over the time if the price appreciates then there will be windfall returns for it. However, there are some exchanges where we get interest for the deposits but the rate is very low (around 1% to 3% a year) and that is not worth the risk of keeping our bitcoins in the possession of others IMO.
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March 02, 2017, 10:56:04 PM
If I decided to save bitcoins in bank, how will deposit rate be changed compared to dollar or other currencies? Will it have much lower percent?
Why people would decide to put bitcoin on a bank? Rate would really changed since banks will surely reduce the inflation profits of your bitcoin and which way they make money on and thats why its really nonsense for building a bank since we could make our own bank and full control of our money.
I'd rather put my money in my bitcoin wallet and in my pocket rather than putting it in bank. But, I do love having my savings account in bank but not to invest in them, it is not a good idea to put all money in bank since they have less returns and interest rates compare to what you can earn holding and doing trading in bitcoin.
I think keep all your money in bitcoin is also not good. because bitcoin also has a big risk as one of the commodities. so do it in a balanced way between bitcoin and save on bank
Yeah keeping everything into bitcoin is not the safer way of investing. As quoted bitcoin has got the highest risk in it, because no one knows when bitcoin price increases or decreases. Diversifying the savings and regular buying of at least small amount of bitcoin regularly is a good way to make good earning for a better tomorrow.
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March 02, 2017, 10:04:32 PM
You can't save bitcoin like fiat currencies in a bank .
It is totally Decentralised.
You can keep it in your bitcoin( mostly blockchain wallet)
And use it when you want it.
Talking about interests, you do not get any interest for keeping your money on blockchain.
But the cost of bitcoins is increasing so rapidly that it is like an investment,
You can purchase bitcoins today and keep it with you and on the right time sell it.
You will gain a lot a the cost of bitcoins would have increased drastically by the time you sell it.
You can consider it as an interest in fact ,
It would be more than the interest you get from bank
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February 22, 2017, 10:01:09 AM
Saving of bitcoin may lead one to profit or loss it can not be predicted because its rate is changing and may increase or decrease. But saving for future is good thing so saving of bitcoins is good.  Cheesy
save bitcoin will not make you lose, because you will avoid scam and losses. for storing bitcoin will certainly benefit, because the future will be bright and certainly bitcoin already guaranteed price will be higher than now

Yup as we are seeing that the price of bitcoin getting higher and higher so its a smart investment to make as price will be much higher in future so its good to save as many bitcoins as possible as it has a potential to give us returns beyond our imagination.
yes i also think so that holding bitcoin in the present time will be more beneficial in future. i think it is very easy to buy bitcoin right now. because the price of bitcoin is currently very low and i think every one at least  can afford bitcoin to buy a little amount of bitcoin. and then holding it for a long time can give a good profit.
Holding bitcoins is good for the person who holds it because it allows them to make some decent money, but for the bitcoin itself it is bad because in order to become a successful currency it has to be used around and not just sit in people accounts without use
If holding is not recommended sure people won't give importance to bitcoin for any reason. As mentioned when acceptance as a currency and the user profile increases even users who just hold for profit starts using bitcoin directly without converting to fiat.
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February 22, 2017, 09:04:16 AM
If I decided to save bitcoins in bank, how will deposit rate be changed compared to dollar or other currencies? Will it have much lower percent?
Why people would decide to put bitcoin on a bank? Rate would really changed since banks will surely reduce the inflation profits of your bitcoin and which way they make money on and thats why its really nonsense for building a bank since we could make our own bank and full control of our money.
I'd rather put my money in my bitcoin wallet and in my pocket rather than putting it in bank. But, I do love having my savings account in bank but not to invest in them, it is not a good idea to put all money in bank since they have less returns and interest rates compare to what you can earn holding and doing trading in bitcoin.
I think keep all your money in bitcoin is also not good. because bitcoin also has a big risk as one of the commodities. so do it in a balanced way between bitcoin and save on bank
Yeah, putting all of your money on bitcoin can be a risk that is why investors are not putting lots of hope on it, because it is unstable and the price could change over a night, but also bitcoin could turn out to be the best investment in history, so the wise thing to do is to put some of your money on it so you could make some profit and not lose it all if it turns out to be bad.
It is better for us, if investors not put their whole money into bitcoin. But bitcoin is better than bank saving the money.
And about the thread, i am sure no bank accept the bitcoin deposit, Also it is no need to deposit the bitcoin into the bank, everyone know that bitcoin already give us profit in its own price. So i want to ask why we deposit the bitcoin into bank? 
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February 20, 2017, 09:53:46 AM
If I decided to save bitcoins in bank, how will deposit rate be changed compared to dollar or other currencies? Will it have much lower percent?
Why people would decide to put bitcoin on a bank? Rate would really changed since banks will surely reduce the inflation profits of your bitcoin and which way they make money on and thats why its really nonsense for building a bank since we could make our own bank and full control of our money.
I'd rather put my money in my bitcoin wallet and in my pocket rather than putting it in bank. But, I do love having my savings account in bank but not to invest in them, it is not a good idea to put all money in bank since they have less returns and interest rates compare to what you can earn holding and doing trading in bitcoin.
I think keep all your money in bitcoin is also not good. because bitcoin also has a big risk as one of the commodities. so do it in a balanced way between bitcoin and save on bank
Yeah, putting all of your money on bitcoin can be a risk that is why investors are not putting lots of hope on it, because it is unstable and the price could change over a night, but also bitcoin could turn out to be the best investment in history, so the wise thing to do is to put some of your money on it so you could make some profit and not lose it all if it turns out to be bad.
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