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Quote from: Litzki1990 on March 31, 2023, 10:21:55 AM

When he successfully ran the FTX scam he was arrested by the police and after his arrest he was convicted and sentenced to 115 years in prison but he is staying at home instead of jail under political asylum even though his status is called house arrest. But how can a criminal stay at home without being punished.

As planned, the SBF Act allowed her to eat her mother's hand-cooked food. This is the saddest thing because if he had been in prison for 115 years there would have been no problem because the crime had reached the heinous stage which made him punishable. Finally, the law supports him and allows him to remain under house arrest, that's why the question arises in the minds of all people. Now we will never condone his scam and demand that the law punish him again. Common people will lose faith in the law and SBF may face scams again so we demand punishment again.

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SBF is Paying His Legal Fees Using Alameda’s Money
Buried in a mountain of charges from the Justice Department, Former FTX CEO Sam Bankman-Fried (SBF) is reportedly paying his legal fees with money gifted to his father that was initially borrowed from his trading firm, Alameda Research. details in here https://cryptopotato.com/sbf-is-paying-his-legal-fees-using-alamedas-money-report/

Well that would provably happen so much better all properties or wealth which is connected to SBF should be freeze to so that he cannot use the money he stole from people to possible pay some corrupt official to manipulate this case. Government need to take action regarding on what SBF could possibly do so that they can successfully prosecute this guy and make him pay for those scam he do.

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Quote from: cabron on March 27, 2023, 11:47:56 AM

SBF planned it. He even paid politicians to have him on his side and so look at how he is today, he still is not in prison.

SBF He may have planned such a scam in advance. Seeing that he had planned such scams in advance, he gave money to various political leaders so that in the future such scams, the politicians would support him. And work has been done accordingly.

When he successfully ran the FTX scam he was arrested by the police and after his arrest he was convicted and sentenced to 115 years in prison but he is staying at home instead of jail under political asylum even though his status is called house arrest. But how can a criminal stay at home without being punished.

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SBF is Paying His Legal Fees Using Alameda’s Money
Buried in a mountain of charges from the Justice Department, Former FTX CEO Sam Bankman-Fried (SBF) is reportedly paying his legal fees with money gifted to his father that was initially borrowed from his trading firm, Alameda Research. details in here https://cryptopotato.com/sbf-is-paying-his-legal-fees-using-alamedas-money-report/

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FTX was a popular exchanger of the present time. And it has become very popular among the users within a short period of time as the users get various facilities from it. And billions of users started investing here and everyone considered it as Binance Alternative. But despite its popularity, it went bankrupt at the last moment and FTX users lost their huge amount of money. And the exchange was owned by SBF so everyone considered SBF a worse criminal than Ross Ulbricht. SFB was a smart person and he managed to make his exchanger very popular in a very short time which other companies never did. Because of which everyone considers him as a big and terrible scammer.

SBF may have planned this scam in advance. So maybe he was proceeding according to plan step by step. He chose various special events to popularize his exchange which he sponsored and tried to gain loyalty of this exchange and he succeeded.

FTX was a sponsor at the ICC World Cup event and from there FTX achieved a lot of marketing success. And bankrupted the exchange by embezzling people's money just as people had invested huge sums of money in its exchange. He did it completely according to the plan and for that he had a lot of patience and waited for a long time. He is one of the most hated people in history. He should be punished more severely. The court should execute the sentence given to him quickly to show the people that the law is above no one.

SBF is a heinous criminal man in today's world. The way he looted people's money and made people completely destitute. But I also think that SBF has had this plan in mind for a long time, which is why he popularizes his FTX exchange by constantly sponsoring it in various places. And when most of the people in the world have invested here trusting investment then betray everyone like this. But I think his sentence of 115 years in prison for this crime was enough for him. But in terms of the present law is not so good because of which the court grants bail to him instead of sentencing him. It is understood that this plan of SBF was also joined by big political leaders due to which SBF was released from jail in exchange for power and money.

I have been hearing since childhood that he has all the money. There is no punishment for him if he commits a crime. Now I see it with my own eyes that he who has money does not care to commit any crime. He suppresses all the truth with money. Whoever has money at present has everything behind him. SBF committed such a big crime. But what is his punishment for being with the family? I don't understand this kind of punishment. How many people's future was ruined for that. How many people's faith was broken? But accordingly he is punished like this. Then everyone will commit such a crime. Because SBF punishment will be accepted by everyone.

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SBF planned it. He even paid politicians to have him on his side and so look at how he is today, he still is not in prison.
Ulbricht is just someone who wants to make money but he is also a libertarian who wants a free market. But because the Silkroad is just too popular, it becomes a target for the government to stop it.

There was no real information and Ross never got to have the chance to speak publicly. He is gonna be inside for life with nothing to bargain.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on March 26, 2023, 03:52:24 AM

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Quote from: coinerer on March 14, 2023, 11:43:43 PM

FTX was a popular exchanger of the present time. And it has become very popular among the users within a short period of time as the users get various facilities from it. And billions of users started investing here and everyone considered it as Binance Alternative. But despite its popularity, it went bankrupt at the last moment and FTX users lost their huge amount of money. And the exchange was owned by SBF so everyone considered SBF a worse criminal than Ross Ulbricht. SFB was a smart person and he managed to make his exchanger very popular in a very short time which other companies never did. Because of which everyone considers him as a big and terrible scammer.

SBF may have planned this scam in advance. So maybe he was proceeding according to plan step by step. He chose various special events to popularize his exchange which he sponsored and tried to gain loyalty of this exchange and he succeeded.

FTX was a sponsor at the ICC World Cup event and from there FTX achieved a lot of marketing success. And bankrupted the exchange by embezzling people's money just as people had invested huge sums of money in its exchange. He did it completely according to the plan and for that he had a lot of patience and waited for a long time. He is one of the most hated people in history. He should be punished more severely. The court should execute the sentence given to him quickly to show the people that the law is above no one.

SBF is a heinous criminal man in today's world. The way he looted people's money and made people completely destitute. But I also think that SBF has had this plan in mind for a long time, which is why he popularizes his FTX exchange by constantly sponsoring it in various places. And when most of the people in the world have invested here trusting investment then betray everyone like this. But I think his sentence of 115 years in prison for this crime was enough for him. But in terms of the present law is not so good because of which the court grants bail to him instead of sentencing him. It is understood that this plan of SBF was also joined by big political leaders due to which SBF was released from jail in exchange for power and money.

You can't directly say that SBF has planned this from long time. Because you have no direct evidence. Do you want your successful company to be destroyed? Where it was a successful and top exchange like Binance I don't think they will let their company get destroyed. But since SBF failed to protect his company and protect users' funds, he has to take full responsibility for it. So in this eyes he is guilty and his punishment is determined. So I also expect severe punishment for him

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Quote from: Patrol69 on March 22, 2023, 03:54:25 AM

Quote from: coinerer on March 14, 2023, 11:43:43 PM

FTX was a popular exchanger of the present time. And it has become very popular among the users within a short period of time as the users get various facilities from it. And billions of users started investing here and everyone considered it as Binance Alternative. But despite its popularity, it went bankrupt at the last moment and FTX users lost their huge amount of money. And the exchange was owned by SBF so everyone considered SBF a worse criminal than Ross Ulbricht. SFB was a smart person and he managed to make his exchanger very popular in a very short time which other companies never did. Because of which everyone considers him as a big and terrible scammer.

SBF may have planned this scam in advance. So maybe he was proceeding according to plan step by step. He chose various special events to popularize his exchange which he sponsored and tried to gain loyalty of this exchange and he succeeded.

FTX was a sponsor at the ICC World Cup event and from there FTX achieved a lot of marketing success. And bankrupted the exchange by embezzling people's money just as people had invested huge sums of money in its exchange. He did it completely according to the plan and for that he had a lot of patience and waited for a long time. He is one of the most hated people in history. He should be punished more severely. The court should execute the sentence given to him quickly to show the people that the law is above no one.

SBF is a heinous criminal man in today's world. The way he looted people's money and made people completely destitute. But I also think that SBF has had this plan in mind for a long time, which is why he popularizes his FTX exchange by constantly sponsoring it in various places. And when most of the people in the world have invested here trusting investment then betray everyone like this. But I think his sentence of 115 years in prison for this crime was enough for him. But in terms of the present law is not so good because of which the court grants bail to him instead of sentencing him. It is understood that this plan of SBF was also joined by big political leaders due to which SBF was released from jail in exchange for power and money.

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Sam Backman Fred(SBF) should be in prison for life for his crimes. But the American legal system and some ruling factions (SBF) allowed him to eat his mother's cooking at home with his wife by taking illegal money. But the question of thousands of people dying because of SBF has become the worst thing for all people to fulfill their own interests. The illegal act committed by his fellow judges is the most heinous act to human beings as it is never possible by the laws of such a great country. American juries will not hesitate to auction off their own country's people to get their own finances.
Ross was indeed a good man who preached independence for the country he created with his intelligence. But Ross is now sitting in jail.

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Quote from: OgNasty on March 24, 2023, 11:45:46 AM

SBF clearly belongs in prison for the rest of his life. The amount of money he grifted and directed at woke causes while stifling Bitcoin’s price to pump shitcoins is absolutely shocking. It shows the wisdom of these liberal elite college grads who think they know everything. The fact the Ross, a man with actual skills who was promoting freedom is in jail, while SBF who is one of the biggest financial criminals in history sits at home eating Mom’s cooking shows just how crooked the system is and who, particularly SBF’s bought liberal politicians, are willing to sell out the people for their own financial security.

Unfortunately it's nothing new. This is being going on for decades now, but the American people have been manipulated, propagandized, and deceived into being too complicit to even notice.

Obama, Biden, both Clintons, Pelosi, Schumer, McConnel, and Bush 43 should all be in jail. There's nothing liberal about the Democrats I mentioned, and there's nothing conservative about these Republicans. These are corrupt puppets of Power Money. As George Carlton would say, when interests align there's no need for a conspiracy.

It's easy to find all the corrupt swamp-rats in Washington these days; just look to see who supports sending money and weapons to Ukraine, and who is pushing the agenda of the Climate Industrial Complex. Throw the bums out!

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SBF clearly belongs in prison for the rest of his life. The amount of money he grifted and directed at woke causes while stifling Bitcoin’s price to pump shitcoins is absolutely shocking. It shows the wisdom of these liberal elite college grads who think they know everything. The fact the Ross, a man with actual skills who was promoting freedom is in jail, while SBF who is one of the biggest financial criminals in history sits at home eating Mom’s cooking shows just how crooked the system is and who, particularly SBF’s bought liberal politicians, are willing to sell out the people for their own financial security.

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Quote from: El duderino_ on January 25, 2023, 11:34:31 AM

The line between people ending up in prison for long time or just not is so thin in a world of scams, being open minded etc...
Curious , do you think one deserves prison more as the other, one doesn't deserve prison? Both should be there? None should?

How do you guys think about what they did and should or shouldn't they belong in prison?

Basically, both of them deserve this punishment, because many cases related to them have been proven by the parties responsible there, but for the Ross Ulbricht case I don't see justice for a life sentence (death penalty). Despite the crimes these two have committed, I respect the anonymous buying concept developed, but not the crimes they have committed.

The site is run under the pseudonym Dread Pirate Roberts, this name is taken from one of the fictional characters I have seen in various media. This case if studied further is too involved in politics and that is why politics can play a bigger role than the actual reality.

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Quote from: Patrol69 on March 22, 2023, 03:54:25 AM

Quote from: coinerer on March 14, 2023, 11:43:43 PM

FTX was a popular exchanger of the present time. And it has become very popular among the users within a short period of time as the users get various facilities from it. And billions of users started investing here and everyone considered it as Binance Alternative. But despite its popularity, it went bankrupt at the last moment and FTX users lost their huge amount of money. And the exchange was owned by SBF so everyone considered SBF a worse criminal than Ross Ulbricht. SFB was a smart person and he managed to make his exchanger very popular in a very short time which other companies never did. Because of which everyone considers him as a big and terrible scammer.

SBF may have planned this scam in advance. So maybe he was proceeding according to plan step by step. He chose various special events to popularize his exchange which he sponsored and tried to gain loyalty of this exchange and he succeeded.

FTX was a sponsor at the ICC World Cup event and from there FTX achieved a lot of marketing success. And bankrupted the exchange by embezzling people's money just as people had invested huge sums of money in its exchange. He did it completely according to the plan and for that he had a lot of patience and waited for a long time. He is one of the most hated people in history. He should be punished more severely. The court should execute the sentence given to him quickly to show the people that the law is above no one.

SBF suffered a crime but I don't think he did it intentionally. I think he recognized it and was forced to do it. Because no one will ever let his successful business go to waste so easily. and don't you want something like that to happen. Did I tell the truth? However, since one of SBF's institutions has gone bankrupt and lost millions of users' funds, SBF has to be held responsible for failing to maintain it properly and therefore SBF is guilty. And SBF has to return these funds to the users or face severe penalties

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Quote from: Patrol69 on March 22, 2023, 03:54:25 AM

Quote from: coinerer on March 14, 2023, 11:43:43 PM

FTX was a popular exchanger of the present time. And it has become very popular among the users within a short period of time as the users get various facilities from it. And billions of users started investing here and everyone considered it as Binance Alternative. But despite its popularity, it went bankrupt at the last moment and FTX users lost their huge amount of money. And the exchange was owned by SBF so everyone considered SBF a worse criminal than Ross Ulbricht. SFB was a smart person and he managed to make his exchanger very popular in a very short time which other companies never did. Because of which everyone considers him as a big and terrible scammer.

SBF may have planned this scam in advance. So maybe he was proceeding according to plan step by step. He chose various special events to popularize his exchange which he sponsored and tried to gain loyalty of this exchange and he succeeded.

FTX was a sponsor at the ICC World Cup event and from there FTX achieved a lot of marketing success. And bankrupted the exchange by embezzling people's money just as people had invested huge sums of money in its exchange. He did it completely according to the plan and for that he had a lot of patience and waited for a long time. He is one of the most hated people in history. He should be punished more severely. The court should execute the sentence given to him quickly to show the people that the law is above no one.

Well I guess a master mind who is into fraud would have done same thing as marketing your product would be the first step and after a solid ground is gain, then you strike when your clients least expect. Same scenario occurred in my locality the platform was called bliss emporium, but it was a trading company, people actually invested their fund and the company trade with it gives you triple of your actual investment which at first worked for some months and people started trusting the company and they got lots of clients and investors but suddenly one day everything went downhill and closed up due to them not meeting up with the payment schedules and lots of people lost their money in the platform.

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Quote from: coinerer on March 14, 2023, 11:43:43 PM

FTX was a popular exchanger of the present time. And it has become very popular among the users within a short period of time as the users get various facilities from it. And billions of users started investing here and everyone considered it as Binance Alternative. But despite its popularity, it went bankrupt at the last moment and FTX users lost their huge amount of money. And the exchange was owned by SBF so everyone considered SBF a worse criminal than Ross Ulbricht. SFB was a smart person and he managed to make his exchanger very popular in a very short time which other companies never did. Because of which everyone considers him as a big and terrible scammer.

SBF may have planned this scam in advance. So maybe he was proceeding according to plan step by step. He chose various special events to popularize his exchange which he sponsored and tried to gain loyalty of this exchange and he succeeded.

FTX was a sponsor at the ICC World Cup event and from there FTX achieved a lot of marketing success. And bankrupted the exchange by embezzling people's money just as people had invested huge sums of money in its exchange. He did it completely according to the plan and for that he had a lot of patience and waited for a long time. He is one of the most hated people in history. He should be punished more severely. The court should execute the sentence given to him quickly to show the people that the law is above no one.

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Quote from: Merit.s on March 15, 2023, 02:55:13 PM

What SBF has led so many investors to frustration and regrets that some might never forget for the rest of their lives. Imagine that SBF can manipulated his way into the crypto market with shaddy politicians in order to scam a large number of people in disguise of an exchange. This is the biggest scam so far,that I have heard of and therefore he shouldn't go unpunished, justice must be done. If not he might go back again and use another name to start up another scam project, maybe still an exchange or something. If he is sent to jail,the he will learn in the hard way,just the way he scammed people of their hard earned funds.

Sam Bankman said during an interview long before FTX collapsed, his best advice when buying into the krypton market was not to put in more money than you were willing to lose.

As it turned out, it was the best financial advice that ever came out of his mouth. I wonder if it was his conscience speaking? Now he's become one of the biggest frauds so far, with this case hopefully he gets a heavy sentence, much tougher than Ross Ulbricht's sentence.

When someone comes for interview he tries to give good advice. Whether or not Bankman-Fried planned his theft at that time I cannot say but normally people who work in public functions and speak well in front of the public have different views. As we have seen in Bankman-Fried.

Users money without their permission should be a serious offense for the crime he commits, but when the money is used for a risky activity, it is considered a more serious crime. FTX chief Bankman-Fried is in danger after his blue-chip scheme to increase his wealth is revealed. Under US securities laws, it is illegal to commingle customer funds with counterparties and trade without their express consent. Ross Ulbricht and Bankman-Fried both should be punished maximum ‍according to the law.

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Quote from: Merit.s on March 15, 2023, 02:55:13 PM

What SBF has led so many investors to frustration and regrets that some might never forget for the rest of their lives. Imagine that SBF can manipulated his way into the crypto market with shaddy politicians in order to scam a large number of people in disguise of an exchange. This is the biggest scam so far,that I have heard of and therefore he shouldn't go unpunished, justice must be done. If not he might go back again and use another name to start up another scam project, maybe still an exchange or something. If he is sent to jail,the he will learn in the hard way,just the way he scammed people of their hard earned funds.

Sam Bankman said during an interview long before FTX collapsed, his best advice when buying into the krypton market was not to put in more money than you were willing to lose.

As it turned out, it was the best financial advice that ever came out of his mouth. I wonder if it was his conscience speaking? Now he's become one of the biggest frauds so far, with this case hopefully he gets a heavy sentence, much tougher than Ross Ulbricht's sentence.

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Quote from: Mr.suevie on March 14, 2023, 03:35:12 PM

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Finally Ross Ulbricht should be exonerated and awarded the Nobel SurPrize and the SBF should be hanged again. Because judging according to the crime, this is the verdict for me.

I don't know for everyone but I think your decision is kinda absurd because looking at the two person involved in this act, they all actually committed fraudulent crimes because they all temper with the emotion and financial life of many individual who were involved in this. Although SBF actually found a way to influence his punishment but this doesn't still clear the fact that Ross Ulbricht is also guilty and also deserved punishment rather I think there is another lesson to be learned here which is we should all avoid fraudulent activities and no one should lure anyone into such as one person may go purnish and the other unpurnish just as the case between Ross Ulbricht and sam bankman fried(SBF).

Of course you are right because both SBF and Ross Ulbricht are major criminals. I think it is not right to look at any of them because they are criminals. But now SBF is a big criminal but he is not facing any punishment but he is now living free from jail. But another big criminal Ross Ulbricht is still serving the punishment for his crime. Therefore the court did not decide that between the two criminals SBF was not punished for his crime. Of course I think both should be punished equally.

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Quote from: Merit.s on March 15, 2023, 02:55:13 PM

What SBF has led so many investors to frustration and regrets that some might never forget for the rest of their lives. Imagine that SBF can manipulated his way into the crypto market with shaddy politicians in order to scam a large number of people in disguise of an exchange. This is the biggest scam so far,that I have heard of and therefore he shouldn't go unpunished, justice must be done. If not he might go back again and use another name to start up another scam project, maybe still an exchange or something. If he is sent to jail,the he will learn in the hard way,just the way he scammed people of their hard earned funds.

If the judges consider the pains he has caused so many people and their families, he would get a very harsh sentence. If the crypto world measures the bad reputation he attracted to the industry, it will be worth so much. He is fortunate that he is an American, China and other authoritarian nation would have handed him at least a life jail sentence.

Quote from: arwin100 on March 17, 2023, 08:03:12 AM

Many influencers help him to reach far and penetrate to those more influential people. This is alerting because people nowadays are not afraid to do big crimes even if their identity is been exposed around the world and its really good for the government to take action so that victims can get a justice for what they experience bad on their supposed to be good investment on trading's which they expect to run good by using FTX exchange.

Only a few people care about a good name. Money and fame rule our world now. People know that they can always bribe their way out of any problem so they commit crimes at will. With the money, they can hire the best lawyers, influence judges, and lobby politicians. SBF has the money (people's money) and it gave him access to powerful people. His donations and support to political parties cleared the path for him to become influential. But I don't think his connections can set him free because there is much evidence of his financial recklessness. But one thing is sure, his connections will influence his punishment.

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Many people waiting about this since many are want to know if SBF will get a long sentence than Ross Ulbritch. If SBF will be the new record breaking crypto criminal who will get a long time sentence for sure this will create fear to the other who think about doing the same.

The crime committed by SBF should never be looked down upon by any court. Because if there are many big crimes in the world of crime, the crime of SBF is one of them. He should get SBF maximum sentence for this crime as he sees the punishment of this fraud so that others will not dare to cheat and the court should take some more steps to recover the embezzled money from him and those who deposited money in his exchange. Restitution will greatly increase people's confidence in the law.

Quote from: arwin100 on March 13, 2023, 05:47:44 AM

But if he get bailable sentence well this will totally mess up the justice system, but I don't believe that this will happen since the evidence is so strong and to many cases has been filed to him.

He may never get bail from the court because of his crime. One wish of all is that the crime proved against SBF and the punishment meted out to him after the crime is proved, should be executed quickly.

I also agree with you that if SBF is given the harshest punishment then all the fraudsters in the world will burst out of it so they don't want to do anything like that. Everyone will be happy if there is such a punishment. I think everyone will be very happy if some people involved are punished. Because they Anyone who has suffered can easily forget it. I don't know if it will be easily forgotten.

Imagine that SBF can manipulated his way into the crypto market with shaddy politicians in order to scam a large number of people in disguise of an exchange. This is the biggest scam so far,that I have heard of and therefore he shouldn't go unpunished, justice must be done. If not he might go back again and use another name to start up another scam project, maybe still an exchange or something. If he is sent to jail,the he will learn in the hard way,just the way he scammed people of their hard earned funds.

Many influencers help him to reach far and penetrate to those more influential people. This is alerting because people nowadays are not afraid to do big crimes even if their identity is been exposed around the world and its really good for the government to take action so that victims can get a justice for what they experience bad on their supposed to be good investment on trading's which they expect to run good by using FTX exchange.

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