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Quote from: johnj on September 14, 2011, 05:58:33 PM

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Miners *COULD* continue on the original chain, they *OPTED* to go offline until security additions are put in place.

Read: CH pissed off BitX, and pulled the plug on his own chain, giving only hours of notice inorder to save the little credit he had.

This is what you get when one guy is calling the shots.

BitX's own ball sack pisses him off (WHY WON'T THEY DROP?!?!?!)

All I have to say is at least Solidcoin has a leader who is not just a figure head.

What really happened was Coinhunter publicly challenged me and made statements his Solidcoin client 1.10 was bullet proof. Since the only place his client ver 1.10 was up and running was his "hidden" testnet I proceeded to not only 51% fork it, which he said wasn't possible because of his God like coding had fixed it, I also "Time Traveled" it increasing the size of the block chain 5 times in in 19 minutes. In addition, I confirmed over 8000 blocks and successfully merged with the "correct" fork. This all took less than 30 minutes.

Immediately following said demonstration, Coinhunter with his tail tucked between his legs engages his kill switch and takes down Solidcoin pending a "fix".

Notice we haven't Coinhunter talking shit since.

That's the true story of your "Fearless Leader" Viper LOL

IMHO if coinhunter had a fix for the exploit(s) he would not need 2 weeks. From a pragmatic perspective it should take 3 days tops if he really is telling the truth.

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Quote from: grndzero on September 14, 2011, 07:30:16 PM

New poll: Which solidcoin fork do you use?

So now we've gone from making alt chains to who's fork is best? lol

Yup. I guess so.

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New poll: Which solidcoin fork do you use?

So now we've gone from making alt chains to who's fork is best? lol

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Quote from: EskimoBob on September 14, 2011, 06:09:59 PM

So, if this version #2 (Bro Solidcoin) https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/announce-new-solidcoin-client-fully-open-source-41345 (excluding RealSolid bullshit home made license) gets fixed against the "time travel" etc attacks, we have a working SolidCoin client that uses the currently operating network.

This sounds like the sanest plan.

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c'mon guys. Do we need more FUD? Tongue

There is 2 "versions" of solidcoin and one additional he his writing now.

correct me if I am wrong but...
#1 Version 1... - one he originally released and then foobared in version 1.04
#2 Version 1.04 has a good brother

. It is a upgraded 1.03 and is identical to 1.04 but without the stupid "license" ReaSolid added to hes version of 1.04.
So, if this version #2 (Bro Solidcoin) https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/announce-new-solidcoin-client-fully-open-source-41345 (excluding RealSolid bullshit home made license) gets fixed against the "time travel" etc attacks, we have a working SolidCoin client that uses the currently operating network.

Upcoming fork (1.10?) has a ass load (or not) of unknown hacks and rules to invalidate all the coin generated after the block 35250. If someone has seen the source code, please comment.

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SolidCoin will be shutting down the network at block 35250 (currently 35045 at time of statement). The reason for this shutdown is due to the potential for hackers to gain 51% of the mining power and destroy the credibility of SolidCoin and its users investments using known flaws in Bitcoin's protocol.

SolidCoin will be restarting at some point in the future (most likely within 2 weeks) with a new protocol, all coin owners up to block 35250 will still have their coins when SolidCoin restarts. There will be no loss of coins to these owners.

As you all probably all know by now, at this point in time, shutting down the network at block 35250 as failed and people are still mining happily at 35-70 Gh and do not give a flying fuck what RealSolid/CoinHunter wants or demands. Open up a new exchange at we are back at 300+GH in no time.

If i understand it correctly, original network/chain can not be shut down unless it gets attacked and or everybody downloads the new solidcoin version (not available at the moment)

I'll take the better and more stable client with new cool features any time but ONLY if the code is reviewed by multiple independent programmers and cleaned up from all the hidden and possibly dangerous crap.

Downloading a binary client from RealSolid? ... Thank you, but no!

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Miners *COULD* continue on the original chain, they *OPTED* to go offline until security additions are put in place.

Read: CH pissed off BitX, and pulled the plug on his own chain, giving only hours of notice inorder to save the little credit he had.

This is what you get when one guy is calling the shots.

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via community agreement and recommendation

Really? There was a poll? A time of discussion?

Way a I read it, CH put a post saying it's coming down just hours before the 'deadline'. And if you choose to support the other fork in -any- way, you'll be excluded from sollidcoin.info.

"via community agreement and recommendation". Pffffft, you're hook-line-sinker aren't ya?

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Quote from: Lolcust on September 14, 2011, 05:38:28 PM

Wait, what do you mean, not online ? Like, the entire Solidcoin network is literally down ? :0

Most of the nodes have quit, and RS said it'd be days/weeks until the new one is released.

Also said that once he gets his own running, he'd only invite a select few to test it out.

And he still hasn't said how he is going to begin the new fork at 35k (if he is going to premine).

Least that's what I gathered from IRC last night.

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Wait, what do you mean, not online ? Like, the entire Solidcoin network is literally down ? :0

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Furthermore you will see that code is in place to crash aged clients on the bitcoin network.

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My question - who are the elite few with the private keys to do unknown things in bitcoin and what was their purpose for implementing this in the first place?

Good to see CH's propaganda has seeped into you too Viper.

cue Queens "Another one bites the dust"

From that same quote, you'll see that he thinks he should have implemented it, and given CH's personality disorder I don't doubt he'll abuse it in the future. Sure, let's trust the guy who, by his own admission, wants to be able to kill SC at any time.

Face it, SC is dead. Literally. It's not even online right now.

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It sure sounds like solidcoin supporters having nothing better to do are now sulking in their sorrows over their network and coming to this forum to let loose.

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BitcoinEXpress, can you release the fix so people can repair the so called "open source" Solidcoin (aka no crappy licence changes from RealSolid) and we can blow off RealSolid and his next fork he is planning.

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Quote from: Cosbycoin on September 13, 2011, 07:33:23 PM

Quote from: grndzero on September 13, 2011, 07:30:41 PM

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Info about how the 51% issue will be solved will be released once we have a working testnet client. This issue of 51% attacks is at the core of being able to trust Bitcoin, and it's quite a big issue that needs to be solved. More so for a new crypto currency granted, but Bitcoin being shown vulnerable with recent attacks on the alternate chains will shake a few exchanges I think (like Ruxum already have been).

Still true to form, he still refuses to answer any technical questions in any level of detail. Seems to me to be another desperate move to try to maintain control of the project.

We have to keep in mind he is playing the fence in the open-source world and close-source world.

He wants to straddle the fence where he gets to use open source code yet doesn't want to give any details on his implementations.

He must really enjoy the sensation he gets from straddling that fence.

Go get 'em Art.

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Quote from: Lolcust on September 13, 2011, 07:07:58 PM

Sometimes, life just gives you, well, lemons. And you have to figure out how to burn a house down with lemons

When life gives you lemons, GET MAD!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8ufRnf2Exc

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Quote from: Lolcust on September 13, 2011, 07:35:10 PM

Quote from: grndzero on September 13, 2011, 07:30:41 PM

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Info about how the 51% issue will be solved will be released once we have a working testnet client. This issue of 51% attacks is at the core of being able to trust Bitcoin, and it's quite a big issue that needs to be solved. More so for a new crypto currency granted, but Bitcoin being shown vulnerable with recent attacks on the alternate chains will shake a few exchanges I think (like Ruxum already have been).

Still true to form, he still refuses to answer any technical questions in any level of detail. Seems to me to be another desperate move to try to maintain control of the project.

Well, RealSolid is THE security expert in ALL things coin

FTFY, it was lacking the Coinhunter marketing fluff/pizzazz

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Quote from: grndzero on September 13, 2011, 07:30:41 PM

Quote from: Realsolid

Info about how the 51% issue will be solved will be released once we have a working testnet client. This issue of 51% attacks is at the core of being able to trust Bitcoin, and it's quite a big issue that needs to be solved. More so for a new crypto currency granted, but Bitcoin being shown vulnerable with recent attacks on the alternate chains will shake a few exchanges I think (like Ruxum already have been).

Still true to form, he still refuses to answer any technical questions in any level of detail. Seems to me to be another desperate move to try to maintain control of the project.

Well, RealSolid is the security expert in all things coin

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Quote from: CoinHunter on September 13, 2011, 11:55:07 AM

Quote from: EskimoBob on September 13, 2011, 11:51:16 AM

Can any of you explain how is this network really getting shut down and what really happens when it gets restarted.
What if 2+ miners keep the rigs running and people do not download hes "new and improved" client?

The existing network is likely going to be hacked and toyed with , anyone wanting to trust their coins after block 35250 will be basically doing it with a prayer.

The reason people will download the new client is because it wan't be vulnerable to these hacks inherent in bitcoin.

So the answer is no, he can't explain it.

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Quote from: grndzero on September 13, 2011, 07:30:41 PM

Quote from: Realsolid

Info about how the 51% issue will be solved will be released once we have a working testnet client. This issue of 51% attacks is at the core of being able to trust Bitcoin, and it's quite a big issue that needs to be solved. More so for a new crypto currency granted, but Bitcoin being shown vulnerable with recent attacks on the alternate chains will shake a few exchanges I think (like Ruxum already have been).

Still true to form, he still refuses to answer any technical questions in any level of detail. Seems to me to be another desperate move to try to maintain control of the project.

We have to keep in mind he is playing the fence in the open-source world and close-source world.

He wants to straddle the fence where he gets to use open source code yet doesn't want to give any details on his implementations.

grndzero

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Quote from: Realsolid

Info about how the 51% issue will be solved will be released once we have a working testnet client. This issue of 51% attacks is at the core of being able to trust Bitcoin, and it's quite a big issue that needs to be solved. More so for a new crypto currency granted, but Bitcoin being shown vulnerable with recent attacks on the alternate chains will shake a few exchanges I think (like Ruxum already have been).

Still true to form, he still refuses to answer any technical questions in any level of detail. Seems to me to be another desperate move to try to maintain control of the project.

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My point 1 and very few seem to get it - The "Net Gain" could have been made without attacking a LIVE operational network.

Yes, it would be nice if floks just made pull requests with patches.

It would be also nice if Annie Cruz was in love with me.

Sometimes, life just gives you, well, lemons. And you have to figure out how to burn a house down with lemons

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Thanking them is not a positive thing

I happen to be part of a culture with very strong propensity for reciprocity and thus tend to thank people when they help. Simples-s! *sqeek!*

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notably Gavin who IS the (?figure?) head of the bitcoin system

Um, no, Gavin is not the Bitcoin Queen Bee (Queen Bit?).

He's an awesome developer and a well-mannered person, but he isn't in "charge" of the "community" found within bitcointalk (Or did I just miss the Queen Bit election, folks ?!)

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I have been no different with any *coin system yet created, worst thing I did was make a joke when I0Coin came out (see "RRCoin") and there I was mocking the same trollers who are making the same statements against your coin. My questioning of your coin was in the spirit of "Eat where you sh** much" seeing as you have been verbally abusing other alt coins and supporting the BS of the day.

I only picked on Coinhunter, and even that after he made hilarious claims of "improved security" (Of which he had, and still has, none.), and even then I started quite polite and did my best to remain so until he went fully loco.

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I wish your coin the best of luck

Thanks

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I won't partake, just as I don't partake in the I*Coin or Namecoin.

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If you look at my non-enraged posts you will see I am generally a supporter of the altcoins and think they all make some (no matter how little) contribution to the community. I DON'T think Bitcoin will be the top of the totem pole in the long run, bit I DO believe it has a long life (if this community gets less bored teenager and the leadership starts acting like leadership).

I think you should just take it easier.

Alt coins aren't yet as much srs business as Bitcoin, so it would be best if people treated them more lightheartedly.

I wonder why you don't partake in namecoin, it's by far the most innovative

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