Topic: SC Releases his 'white paper', hilarity ensues - page 10. (Read 13165 times)

This is correct, think of trusted nodes spending money to protect their investment, just like rich people do in real life with safes, etc.



The CPF currently has 32354, though it will be obtaining some more as the old bounty wallet is moved into it (2500SC) and the leftover from the genesis block (about 80000 coins). Sorry if you think this is a secret it's not.

SC1 had 30000 premined for bounties, currently the CPF has ~115000 SC, and you think this is a big deal? GG/TBX has 7 million premined coins, do you have threads pointing out the scam factor of this? You should have about 70x more posts about it if you're being fair. Please link me to them.

All the dealings with CPF will be written on the website as part of public policy, there is a block chain remember, everything is recorded.

You may not like what SC2.0 does to solve the security problem, or you may like that part and dislike other parts (CPF). Either way, it's the most advanced cryptochain out there, and will only get better.

This is why I'm asking for the scammer label.

If this is what had been propsed with SC 1.0, in full disclosure before launch, the chain would have gone nowhere.  Instead, he proposed a BitcoinLite (3 minute blocks), paid spammers to spread FUD, and gained some traction.  That was the bait.  The switch is what we have now.  This has 'scam' written all over it.

Let me speak it out clearly: This looks to me as yet another (while more sophisticated) attempt to sell the presence of premined coins and now 'taxes'

Now since it is clear nobody wants that he has gone into the vindication phase.

Please Coinhunter, go back to making HYIPs or whatever you done before.

Well there's a few obvious questions that spring to mind from it:

1.  How does the network "know" that a node has more than 1 million SCs in a wallet?  Are all generated blocks somehow signed with the address of the largest wallet you own?
2.  How are these wallets with the 1 million coins not able to be used for transactions?  Are we suppsoed to just take SC's word for it - or is there some special functionailty about those accounts?
3.  With any reasonable answers to the above two questions it seems likely to me that the same could have been achieved without pre-genning the 1 mill coins in the wallet.  IF those 'special' accounts ARE somehow different to normal ones then surely the test could be that EITHER the node must hold 1 million coins OR it must own one of the special wallets (without them needing to actually hold 1 million coins).

Doubt we'll get straight answers to the above - but:

A.  If the answer to 2 is "we have to take his word" then obviously his white-paper is intentionally misleading due to him claiming the money "can't" be used rather than that he "won't" use it.
B.  If the answer to 2 is that those accounts are in some way different to other accounts then obviously it follows that there was no need to generate the coins - the special 'status' of those accounts could have been detected instead.  And any such special status HAS to be detectable - or the network wouldn't be able to tell to disallow any attempts to use the content of them.

If he's either lied about the status of those accounts OR has generated millions of coins where there's no reason to (unles he wants to pump and dump with them ofc) then seems like it's just a get rich quick scheme at the exense of anyone gullible enough to buy SC2s (though I find it hard to have any sympathy for anyone that stupid).

http://solidcoin.info/solidcoin-most-secure-currency.php
There, fixed it for you.

So he made the "unhackable" digital coin at the cost of the reasoning why most people use it?

Did he win those bets about BitcoinExpress breaking it or is there still the rest of the week for that?

Quite funny, considering that even if what he's saying is partly true, the amount is still irrelevant -- It would be the percentage invested compared to the person's overall net worth that counts.

I probably care a lot more about my $1000, than some billionaire cares about his $10,000.

He has to know this, right? All of those "articles" on his site merely make false claims about Bitcoin in order to try to scare people into using SolidCoin. How is CoinHunter/BitcoinMedia not in violation of forum rules?

It's an interesting take on proof-of-stake, but it's far to centralized. For more information about proof-of-stake, read the following threads before you implement it in your next alternative cryptocurrency:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/proof-of-stake-instead-of-proof-of-work-27787
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/proof-of-stake-brainstorming-37194

http://solidcoin.info/solidcoin-most-secure-currency.php

A million SC account that can't be spent is worthless, and thus not invested at all. Typical CH double-speak.

Wrong again. 51% makes double-spends of your own coins possible. A 51% attack on Bitcoin cannot make my coins disappear.

Ah, good times

Right now it's a peer-RS/CH-peer currency

That's about the shortest whitepaper ever.

http://i.imgur.com/bTGmi.png

A few highlights

"Why can you trust someone with a million dollar account? Simply because if they have that many coins they are well invested into the SolidCoin system, if they tried to attack the network they would obviously devalue a great amount of their assets. But it's not just this simple, multiple people can have million dollar accounts so how do we sort out who is "more right" if they submit blocks at the same time? We trust the person with the most money, as they have the most to lose."

"One initial problem with this p2p security feature is SolidCoin only had 1.112 million coins prior to this security feature being implemented. To solve this, 10 accounts of 1.2 million were created in the genesis block. These are special accounts that cannot be spent on the network, effectively making them "Null accounts used for special purposes", until SolidCoin does have real millionaires."

Wait, we're supposed to 'trust' the super nodes because they have 1m SC, but these SC are worthless (can't be spent). On top of which the more-than-obvious fallacy of money=trust.  Also, nice mentioning now that you actually premined 13m coins.

And the kickers

"With this new 51% protection feature there is a finally p2p cryptocurrency large businesses and users can rely on."

Right.  13m premined, 1m mined per day, a borked difficulty... don't all you merchants get up at once

Edit: I'm going to go ahead and press that CH recieve the forum 'Scammer' label due to gross bait-and-switch.

1) CH first said that there would only be 1m premined  Now there are 13m which he had to of known was going to be the case while lieing about the initial 1.2m. A premine is a premine regardless of when the coins become 'active'.
2) SC 2.0beta reported grossly false hashrates at the time TBX was on the up-n-up. This was clearly done on purpose to falsely demonstrate a 'superior' CPU algorithm.
3) SC 1.0 -> 2.0 protocol changed dramatically, coupled with the gross inflation SC 1.0 coins have endured due to an apparent borked difficulty (24hrs into launch, 20k blocks, 53 diff. adjustments, and still at <10s blocks)
4) CH has intentionally misled people with paid spam


The scam lies in miners must invest electricity into this chain - and this investment has been manipulated and consolidated by CH. His bait-and-switch technique has landed him in control of millions of coins on top of an unending supply via the tax.


How many more instances of CH outright lieing and deceiving bitcointalk forum members does he need to give before he gets the label?