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Topic: Scam Accusation against Urocoin (true-asset) and Green Earth Systems Limited - page 2. (Read 17187 times)

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So Bohan talks like Charlie Chan now?


I have to say you lack of faith really hurts me to the core.

GES is a multibillion dollar company, and they have nothing to proof to you.

GES does business using many companies they own throughout the world, but none of this is going to be publicised, because they do not wish to publicise it.

If you have not faith, then just sell.

As peoplyou are all too short sighted and sceptical to understand the true scale of GES.

I tried to give the young people here a chance to get a piece of the pie - and it does not seem they care enough to want it.

If you want to now turn against me, then go for it.


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Well I won't say you are lying hobo, it just seems not like the way Bohan talks that's all, not sure what to believe.


I even clicked on his name on the message and checked his previous posts to be sure it was him.
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Quote from: true-asset on Today at 12:26:25 AM
Quote from: hobopete on August 11, 2014, 11:25:50 PM
I still won't call it a scam- I'm just once again disappointed that someone is trying to make something out of nothing.
I just don't like being lied to.

I strongly suggest that you retract your false statements. I know 100% for sure you will never find any real proof that you are "being lied to", simply because neither me, the Uro Foundation, or any of the 6 companies involved with URO so far have lied about anything that has been communicated to this community or to the general public.

In addition, everything I have sent to you in PMs are true as well. However, that does not make it right for you to post them in public.

All the old news on the GES website are true. All the stated events and figures are exactly what happened. Your inability to verify this due to your lack of connections with the entities involved in those events say nothing about whether they have happened.

Stop imagining that you know everything there is to know about how to find out anything you want. Such a notion is totally and utterly misguided.

If you wanted your coin to succeed, and the urea is real, why would you not post some proof of shipment, knowing that it would cause the coin to skyrocket? Would that not mean success?
and this is how you treat your friends?
I've fought the fudders for you ceaselessly.
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Well I won't say you are lying hobo, it just seems not like the way Bohan talks that's all, not sure what to believe.

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Here is a link the the $25M USD single transaction BCL from GES:

http://imgur.com/LRNO8ho

Please DO NOT promote this.

It is a confidential document, for your reference only.

When you are satisfied, I would like you to post an update.

Thanks

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Uro: A Real Long Term Currency, 1 URO = 1 metric tonne of Urea N46 fertilizer
Urea N46 tracks gradual increases in energy and food prices over the long term.
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I have to say you lack of faith really hurts me to the core.

GES is a multibillion dollar company, and they have nothing to proof to you.

GES does business using many companies they own throughout the world, but none of this is going to be publicised, because they do not wish to publicise it.

There will never be "Proof of Shipment": this is nonsense. The deal is real, and was done.

If you have not faith, then just sell.

As people have said before, its going to be the commodities sector that will end up owning all the coins, because obviously you are all too short sighted and sceptical to understand the true scale of GES.

I tried to give the young people here a chance to get a piece of the pie - and it does not seem they care enough to want it.

If you want to now turn against me, then go for it.

5 years from now, you will look back and with embarrassing regret at the level of immaturity being displayed in this community.

Quote from: hobopete on Today at 11:09:07 AM
bohan
Thanks for the great work here.
I really believe in your project, i think it's a fantastic concept, and you are working extremely hard on it. I have seen that document already, and it is not convincing to me.
It indicates that there was indeed a deal, but not necessarily anything to do with commodities.
Especially as it was originated by a Florida company. The bank involved handles mainly real estate and construction related transactions through that office. (although it's irrelevant to the current discussion, my guess would be a contractor working on the red light camera expansions ordering equipment.)
It disturbs me that I have identified many of the bulk carriers which ply regular routes to India, have reviewed thousands of port records, and yet I can find no evidence that GES, UTI, or Rivaa have ever imported urea into India or Pakistan.
All of the sites I have seen regarding Nilesh consist of him bragging about how great he is, without providing any substantial, independently verifiable information that would confirm that he is indeed a successful commodities trader.
particularly damaging is the way that he posts videos on his site of news stories which are unrelated to his company.
This indicates that he is seeking filler material because GES has no real accomplishments to publicize.
showing pictures of urea does not mean that it is YOUR urea.
the community is grimly hanging on, but I believe that confidence will continue to wane if we do not soon receive proof of shipment.
The coin cannot be pegged to Urea if there is no urea to peg it to.
if there is no urea, then you should state that the coin will be pegged to urea in future if possible.
If the contract IS being fulfilled, give us proof of that.
( Also, I've been involved in martial arts my whole life, and I would never brag about it on a public website, especially one for my business.)
Thank you for your concern, but I simply can't find any reason to believe in Nilesh.

Chang and company - I still hate you guys> but I think you were right.
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I have recently become doubtful of the backing behind Uro, as I could find nothing to indicate that  GES has enough of a market presence to underwrite this project. (or, indeed, any market presence at all.)
In fact, though Bohan is tremendous, and has added many great features to this coin to make it superior in it's own right, without backing I couldn't have supported this coin if it was based upon a lie, and there was no urea backing.
Rivaa is legitimate, yet not large enough to provide the necessary backing.
I am now pleased to announce that I have verified connections between Rivaa and several large and reputable companies who do indeed have the resources to back this project, and that it does fit within the scope of their established and successful businesses.

I couldn't find anything to indicate that nilesh  can support this deal.
As a last ditch effort, I returned to rivaa. I finally found some inter connections which I can release, and which will at least provide some  reassurance for the community.
I finally found a rivaa director with connections to seats on the boards of other companies with large market cap and a footprint in finance and
commodities trading, not as an importer exporter, but as futures trading.
As Uro is meant to act as a stored value token for trading, this indicates to me that the involvement of Rivaa is significant. with this information, I can now once again feel confident that there is backing and a long-term plan for the financial success of uro.
With all of the features being added, the coin itself is superior to many on the market.
I'm pleased to be back on the URO train.
PS I still don't trust nilesh.

The last line of this post says a lot! All the points in bold say a lot. It's full of contradictions, like Uro is!
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Nilesh Nair= Scar from the Lion King

Bohan and followers= Hyenas




Didn't they destroy each other in the end as all those with no morals or no good intentions do???








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True- Asset or should we say Nilesh Nair. Why are you trying to establish a cult?? You said, "Everyone gets to have their say. I will convert people as I have done before."

How is a cult helping you with your conversion??

Why are you so afraid to answer questions if you believe in your coin so much??

Truthful why do you think Nilesh Nair is true-asset?

Nilesh is a fucking moron, have you seen his site for impact security investigations?

IMO and with 99.9% confidence I'd say Bohan Huang is true-asset! interested if you've got a reason you think differently though

Nilesh Nair started the so called Uro, started the threads and is the person driving this ridiculous attempt to make money like a parasite from other people. He has surrounded himself with other blood sucking puppets.

You're right about the security. Have a look at this. He's so egotistical he calls himself a "Guru"

http://www.pdf.investintech.com/preview/4e28eb4c-2136-11e4-90ae-002590d31986/index.html
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The irony is that the person, Nilesh Nair (True-Asset) who has his puppets on strings tried to tell you that those who post comments asking questions or want to verify the inconsistencies in your coin before 'investing' their hard earned cash are malicious!

Yet the conduct of those on this forum show otherwise. You have sworn at others, made insulting comments about them, deleted their posts and then tried to be 'tough' behind a computer screen by behaving in a bullish manner. You then go on to other forums in the hope of being tough towards them. Wouldn't you call that malicious??

Nilesh Nair (True-Asset) tried to be smart by posting quotes to that are malicious towards others. One quote

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”  Mark Twain

Is Nilesh Nair claiming that others are 'stupid' who ask questions. I don't think any person who is supposedly running a multi-million dollar business with supposed offices around the world would call potential investors stupid! The stupidity is that his puppets who bully others are at a low level, those who ask questions don't need to go down with them! The experience they have is to belittle others and act like tough boys. Those who ask questions haven't done that. Don't forget I got Corathor to stop swearing!

“Don't argue. Never deign to deny. Meet insults with laughter.”   Leigh Bardugo, Siege and Storm

The quote to meet insults with laughter isn't that what those who have been thrown insults from the puppets of Uro have had to do. Yet Bohan is allowed to carry on like a 'mad' man when he was asked questions.

http://videobam.com/viFLA

“Discussion is an exchange of knowledge; argument an exchange of ignorance.” Robert Quillen

Those who have been asking questions have aimed to have a discussion, yet have been argued with by the puppets on this forum. Wouldn't you call that ignorance?

“The volume of your voice does not increase the validity of your argument.”  Steve Maraboli, Unapologetically You: Reflections on Life and the Human Experience

The volume of the puppets on this forum who create one just for themselves and deny a discussion or deny answers to be given to questions sure does reduce the validity of your argument that the Uro is worth something. Screaming at people saying that it's worth something gives no credibility.

If this post like those of others gets deleted then the real malicious people are Nilesh Nair, Bohan Huang and those who are getting paid to support this coin. The real people (Nilesh Nair and Bohan Huang who will make money or rather take money from peoples livelihood for their benefit. It's not fair to take money from people. We all need to live, eat and do the best we can, without people bringing them down with their greed. Surely you've all seen enough of that??

This has been supported by these articles. Perhaps you have destroyed the crypto world with your 'carry on'.

http://altcoinherald.com/altcoin-markets-stagnated-may-crumbling/

http://altcoinherald.com/pivotal-times-alternative-cryptocurrencies/

Key points from articles are here from Guglimugli

"Hardly any coin projects are spending the time and resources necessary to educate consumers on why altcoins are superior to traditional payment methods." AGREE

"The scams have played themselves out so often that it’s hard for anyone to not get jaded. While trillions of dollars are at stake in the global sweepstakes for new payment initiatives there are many people who view alts as a way to get rich quick through common thievery."

"Nobody wants to join a group that is filled to the brim with over-sized, aggressive assholes."

"I recently read a post by a young man who made his first investment in an altcoin landmine known as USBCoin. Predictably he had his face and genitals blown off by the trade. When he sought commiseration from his fellow altcoin traders, he was told that he was a ‘moron‘ who didn’t properly ‘do his research‘ and that he should ‘quit whining.‘ This was all said despite the fact that the ‘coin‘ was a complete and total scam." WE READ THIS A LOT IN URO FORUM


"Do you think this person will want to continue on with his new hobby? He may end up like countless others who have tread into this space before – penniless, bitter, and worse for the wear. If this continues there won’t be enough ‘new blood‘ to keep money flowing through the veins of this subculture." AGREE

TRANSPARENCY
"Transparency is only one small part of legitimacy. There are so many laughable claims being made about many altcoins its not surprising that the average traders or miners don’t believe what they’re hearing."
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Look through your own post history, Guglimugli. I encourage everybody to look through Guglimugli's post history. Gee, what a fine member of this community... Oh wait, No. You are actually quite obviously a sockpuppet account made for one sole purpose- to trash Uro. For whatever those reasons may be. Yet, apparently, those reason are not good enough for you to come on here with your real account and endorse them as such...

Look at your first ever post on July 19th https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--687231
In a thread made by another obvious sockpuppet, Scamhunters, who has also done nothing within their short existence but bash Uro. Might I note that obvious scams go on rampantly throughout this forum and yet somehow garner no interest from "Scamhunters".

And ever since your beginning, all of your posts have been in that same thread or some other thread associated with Uro or how it is a "scam"- such as this one...




Stormia why are you on this forum? why does it bother you so much about what others do or say that maybe different from yours. If you love your Uro so much and you believe it's worth something, then don't delete posts on your forum and try to discredit others. You, like the others just try to bully everyone.
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Look through your own post history, Guglimugli. I encourage everybody to look through Guglimugli's post history. Gee, what a fine member of this community... Oh wait, No. You are actually quite obviously a sockpuppet account made for one sole purpose- to trash Uro. For whatever those reasons may be. Yet, apparently, those reason are not good enough for you to come on here with your real account and endorse them as such...

Look at your first ever post on July 19th https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--687231
In a thread made by another obvious sockpuppet, Scamhunters, who has also done nothing within their short existence but bash Uro. Might I note that obvious scams go on rampantly throughout this forum and yet somehow garner no interest from "Scamhunters".

And ever since your beginning, all of your posts have been in that same thread or some other thread associated with Uro or how it is a "scam"- such as this one...


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THIS IS THE REAL FACE OF URO COMMUNITY.
THEY ARE DELETING ALL OUR POSTS (thats the reason why we have this thread) BUT KEEP POSTS LIKE THIS ONLINE.












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put a fork in this shitcoin....its done!  Grin
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Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea
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Quote from: hobopete on Today at 11:58:40 AM
I have noticed that the FUDDERs are in FULL FORCE TODAY!
You get to thinking why they want so badly the price of URO to go down?

We might see a Huge PUMP coming for URO

Quote from: Truthful on Today at 11:52:40 AM
Delusional thinking is never a good look nor is it good to read. Sad

Taking money from people's livelihood is not a happy thing is it?

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Isn't that EXACTLY what YOU are trying to do? cause people to lose their investment?

Quote from: Truthful on Today at 11:52:40 AM

What investment? What about what Vual said https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/moderated-annuro-a-real-long-term-currency-728924

He was told too bad about his loss!!


This thread is for the truth,
Nothing will be removed from this thread unless its abusive.

If someone has a good theory about URO why its real or why its fake,
Post it here noone will remove it, and you can talk about the truth here.

This is not a offical thread this is a community thread supported by uro community,
Those who dont like this thread are those with something to hide...

In regards to "are they really going to send me 12,000 tons of urea for $12,000" yes i understand most commodities and gold mining company's run at major losses for the first few years....
But i cant see them running at such a loose that they will give me 500% on a 20,000$USD investment.................. I really cant..............
Even if they where going to run at a lose for the next 5 years and make good on there delivery why do that... why not just use the next 5years in potential profit buy up the URO so it matches price of urea...
they are counting on buying now very very low and holding for 3 - 5years and by that time if they do everything right it will be worth the price of urea i see what there business plan is it makes sense to a degree but i just dont think they have enough capital to sustain huge losses everytime someone accumulates 12k for delevery...
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Sorry guys but thats the end of URO i think....
I can bring it to 00015 with 1 click of a button, not 0015 00015....
URO is dead.... Where where all scammed.

I lost about 7k on URO, down maybe 10BTC, so if anyone was hurt more then me i ask you to come forward...
I dont blame anyone just need to use my descresion more next time. It looked legit turns out now way in fuck is it.

I dont wanna hurt anyones feelings and cry out accumulation all you want, i have 4years experiance doing this look at my profile and this URO is the most eleberate scam yet...

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Cause im so fucken pissed off i would rather go down with the ship...
Also i almost have 12k URO, so who wants to add to mine to make 12k so we can collect delevery on this URO at least make these assholes pay for that...
Us claiming delevery will be proof this is real or a scam.
Im sorry to burst your bubble but the entire thing is a big fucken joke, think about it are they really going to send me 12,000 tons of urea??
i have 12k URO....  Of fucken course they will not, thats $6MILLION in UREA..... at 500 a ton...... lol seriously wake the fuck up and watch this,
im going to try get my 12k delivered according to the protocle i proposition bet you now 5k USD they wont do it.

If you really think they will give up 12,000 tons of urea at 500$ a ton in exchange for 12,000 "URO" worth $1 each your stupider then you look...
maths here $12,000 USD != $6,000,000.00, ROI just collecting delivery and reselling on ALIBABA as china urea at $200 a ton would still see ROI of 200%..
.. its not going to happen.... EVER.. mark my words...

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what about collecting delivery dont you understand??? Anyway like i said, if i fucken sold now that would KILL you.....
It would drag price down 10x and hurt everyone, im not that way inclined. The support cant even handle my holding i would destory the entire coin i thought i made that clear in my first post...
from 0015 to  00015 you really want that ??

I should just dump all over you and buy back in at 00015 (lets make it clear 00015 not 0015.....)  that would make the bag holders look rather silly, but that would wreak lifes and like i said..
Im not that way inclined *deep breaths* yes its hard to loose alot of money, but at least im not going to hell.

im going to try collect delevery and then be the fucken UREA baron of my street!! Ill pile up the 12tons in my front yard to remind me of the big fuckup this URO coin was...
and they will not do it.... they should then everyone can stop arguing and pretending this is real...
the proof will be there in the pudding... Well we all know Australasia is awake so then GES reply to me we will see if i can collect delivery.....
Or we waiting for India to wake up?? Regardless i do like the Night Vision HD camera's they use to sell for there old venture.....
How you go from importing Security cameras to securing huge fertilizer contracts is anyones guess, must of done really well selling those Cameras and Bollywood Costumes....

But other then resorting to logical fallacy's whats your argument, why reply with a riddle? Are you on my side or not i cant work it out??
The more we argue the more the price drops, like i said im going down with the ship on this one
anyway this will all me removed when the crew wake up....
so: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8240717

EDIT: on a side not, any pakistan fertilizer importers reading this feel free to contact me for a side deal keep it off the exchange i can sell you your 12k URO, buy from me and keep if of the exchange then what....
0_o honestly what a fucken joke.

EDIT: where is everyone?? sometimes i think im the only one in this market anymore.... its just me against a army of bots

on a side note at least i bought my average right down buying more now... yes i bought more... shoot me....
its nice having a really low buy in average but it sucks having so many coins noone will buy.

My posts keep getting removed from the other thread considering i hold more uro then the asshole that made the thread i think im considered to voice my views without some assclown hiding them.
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[quote author=jessilee link=topic=684972.msg8247248#msg8247248 date=1407499125]
so called 'fudders' trying to push the price down dont exsist here.

most people here sold at a huge loss and come here to vent their frustration at the coin. nobody is trying to push the price down, and tbh, nobody cares anymore. lol
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That's right. Freedom of speech against an injustice! It's unjust to take money from people!
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Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea
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It is noted that not one single relevant reply has been made to the facts that have been presented. Instead just another round of childish replies and an attempt to discredit the statements from others. Please give us some answers and not a barrage of insults aimed at bolstering your ego.


Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea
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Quote from: corather on Today at 11:30:51 AM
Yep, thought so, incapable of answering a simple question. You're on ignore now also.

Quote from: Guglimugli on Today at 11:32:03 AM
whatever, if you would ignore us, you would not read and answer all posts in other thread.
you cant ignore us, even if you wanted.

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Agree with Guglimugli!
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do you not realize that your lies are easily disproved ? anyone who can read has proof that you are the liar here.
You destroy your own credibility with every post.


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Please disprove my so-called lies. Please prove that I'm a liar, if that's what you believe.

Your credibility was destroyed ages ago. Especially with your Nazi style of operation
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Wow, you had to post lies about me 5 times so people will believe it eh? You're REALLY "truthful", eh "truthful"?

I have nothing to hide, my posts are clearly searchable. I don't hide behind false pretense which is something you do very well truthful. Keep it up. You're already a joke and a fraud and a liar.

Autism. Pfft. I HAVE AUTISM YOU JACKASS. Say you're sorry, do it! nao!

I forcefully take your apology. It's no longer asked for.

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You still can't provide answers. Please explain how I'm a fraud and liar. Also you didn't read the post too well, did I criticize people with Autism? One of your pals did on your old forum, remember? You didn't respond too well to the facts! The facts I presented as part of my option to exercise free speech must be factual!
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Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea
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truthful, you're a coward and a bully along with being a liar.

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LOL....how?? I haven't deleted your posts, swore at you or presented anything that's false. I'm flattered that you copied my words. Please don't steal people's money along with what they say and please don't twist things to make up a fake story to defend yourself. Not very becoming!
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This post was deleted from the moderated forum..no surprises!

Here are some facts:

1. Nilesh Chandran Nair is Bankrupt. This has not been refuted by anyone. Although some people tried to make claims that the documents from Veda were false!

2. Bohan Huang owns TruHD Pty Ltd and is just as accountable for the corrupt behaviour by helping Nilesh Nair, who will profit the most from this false coin. Bohan Huang is just a front for Nilesh Nair as he probably knows more about the technological side of how to operate a crypto currency. They are both making a fool of you all.

3. There is no office in Hong Kong, never was, never will be. It’s been claimed that there are two other offices in HK, where are the addresses? So can only point to one thing that everything is being run from Australia. Sure anyone can set up a gmail email account. How would you know where the person is replying from? Sure can claim that it’s under the guise of HK GES because it’s registered in HK, but that doesn’t mean a thing because Nilesh Nair is bankrupt.

4. Nilesh Nair resides in Australia and is bankrupt.  How could he afford to have offices around the world and supposedly runs a multi-international company worth millions of dollars?? That just doesn’t add up. Shankari Nair is the director of GES in Australia. Yet it’s been claimed that there are up to 12 other directors?? This is a photo of the Australian Office located at Unit 1, 8-10 Mary Pde, Rydalmere.


5. People who present their views on the so-called coin are entitled to do so. The insane control freaks on the moderated forum prevent anyone from making a comment, but allow themselves to post ridiculous remarks on other forums. They delete other peoples messages to present only their views and attempt to discredit others. Talk about spineless hypocrites.

6.  People like Hopobte and Corather are so good at swearing and bullying other people. Yet when someone swears at them, they act like children in diapers and say that other people’s behaviour is not acceptable. On the old forum they had they swore at people, made racist remarks, made fun of those with Autism and made fun of the law, by claiming they worked for ASIC and on top of that True-Asset (aka Nilesh Nair) threatened people with claims he’ll call the police. If the so-called coin is that good, why go through such lengths??

7. It’s pathetic to say to someone who has lost money on the coin, “Oh well that’s too bad. You should have invested more wisely.” That is bullying in the first degree to try and turn the tables around and blame them for placing some trust in you! You don’t play with people’s trust and livelihood for your own benefit. Isn’t that what a scam is? Suppose you must be a psychopath to make such remarks, as you show no empathy. We all need to eat, clothe ourselves and put a roof over our head. At least some of us do it the honest way and don’t act like parasites living off other people’s livelihood.
So next time an innocent person gets attacked in broad daylight while walking down the main street, you’re going to blame them for the attack??

8. These two forums have tried their best to keep the crypto community safe and to keep the integrity of the crypto world. They are showing that many people who choose to invest in crypto do it for the right and honest reasons. It’s not all about greed, we all need to live right?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=687231.1160
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=713983.40

9. There’s never been any mention of the other NIER’s, what happened to them?

10. Anyone can put together some documents to say that there’s a so–called signed agreement.

11. Anyone can make videos and paint a picture of themselves to be a credible person.  It’s really a sign of desperation.

If everything I say or anyone else who asks questions is supposedly a fudder then answer the questions you’ve been asked! Don’t be a coward and just ignore people.  Go on, be honest with people and tell the truth!
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