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nutildah
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Re: Scam accusation against user humanrightsfoundation
August 28, 2019, 05:30:10 AM
#27
Quote from: lighpulsar07 on August 28, 2019, 04:02:10 AM
Well i think this is an interesting find about the humanrights.foundation owner Zoltan Konder about his behavior towards other people. here is the 4 page exclusion order came from USPTO: https://www.uspto.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Exclusion%20Order%20-%20Zoltan%20Konder.pdf in that order explains why he was expelled just read it yourselves and you will know that he is a self entitled human rights advocate who doesn't know how enforce human rights on others.

Wow, he is such an entitled asshole that its comical. He apparently tried to sue the actual Human Rights Foundation in 2016 as well:

https://www.law360.com/ttab_cases/58d7e940a2bcd27f4a00003c
lighpulsar07
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Re: Scam accusation against user humanrightsfoundation
August 28, 2019, 04:02:10 AM
#26
Quote from: nutildah on August 27, 2019, 11:02:12 PM
So he deleted all his comments here (or had them deleted for him) and is now attempting to tag team Bitcointalk with game-protect in Scam Accusations: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5179453

It's a match made in heaven. Or hell. You know, one or the other...

Well i think this is an interesting find about the humanrights.foundation owner Zoltan Konder about his behavior towards other people. here is the 4 page exclusion order came from USPTO: https://www.uspto.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Exclusion%20Order%20-%20Zoltan%20Konder.pdf in that order explains why he was expelled just read it yourselves and you will know that he is a self entitled human rights advocate who doesn't know how enforce human rights on others.

anyways his already a scam for me for reasons:

1. No proof of his progress about his projects. Just a bar telling us how much progess did he make. no photos, articles about his project.
2. No Information of his suborganization in other countries (seriously i am from the Philippines i didn't saw or hear about his organization at all.)
nutildah
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Re: Scam accusation against user humanrightsfoundation
August 27, 2019, 11:02:12 PM
#25
So he deleted all his comments here (or had them deleted for him) and is now attempting to tag team Bitcointalk with game-protect in Scam Accusations: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5179453

It's a match made in heaven. Or hell. You know, one or the other...
dkbit98
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Re: Scam accusation against user humanrightsfoundation
August 27, 2019, 05:38:02 PM
#24
People created this topic to express free speech that they where denied in original fascist style self-moderated-restrictive thread.
I would like to claim a violation report to humanrighfoundation academy.

Arrogant attitude, rude language and terror threats also don't help at all  Roll Eyes
Bitcoin_Arena
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Re: Scam accusation against user humanrightsfoundation
August 27, 2019, 05:05:48 PM
#23
You did exactly what almost all the scammers do here... Hide behind a self moderated thread and delete any questions when asked about the legitimacy of your "charity organisation"
Did you expect people to blindly follow what you say and send donation without asking any questions?

And then to remove even the few doubts we had you went ahead and acted like an arrogant prick... again just like the sore scammers always do here.

Why should people trust you?
dkbit98
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Re: Scam accusation against user humanrightsfoundation
August 27, 2019, 02:06:06 PM
#22
You are bragging that you have 'older' account ... but you are still a 'newbie' with no activity,
kinda same thing like with your website.... old website - no reports.

nutildah
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Re: Scam accusation against user humanrightsfoundation
August 27, 2019, 12:15:50 PM
#21
Quote from: ?? on ??
Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on August 27, 2019, 11:00:27 AM
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The site you linked to above - https://universaldeclarationofhumanrights.info/ - simply hosts a document written by the UN (without any attribution, I may add).


None of those documents written by UN, it is written by me and these are the only linguistically valid translations in the entire world.

Dude, you've already exposed yourself as being completely nuts, but you keep getting nuttier. This text is the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, written by the U.N.

Quote from: ?? on ??
IT IS WRITTEN BY ME! HOW MANY TIMES I NEED TO TELL YOU YOU RETARD?

So you were not only alive in 1948 but of an age where you could pen something so profound and transformative? You must be at least 100 years old.  Cheesy
fudster
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Re: Scam accusation against user humanrightsfoundation
August 27, 2019, 11:25:44 AM
#20
Look up, he does know the injustice happening. Smiley

Quote from: dkbit98 on August 27, 2019, 05:57:59 AM
What is interesting is that given Bitcoin address is active
so BTC movement can be tracked to see where it goes.
https://btc-explorer.com/address/18fyEQXaZQgCbNoE5Qjs6W7Pnqc9Yp4PQD

So far
received 5.37276269 BTC
      sent 5.37241998 BTC
 balance 0.00034271 BTC

I think the coins he got was prior to this scam he stunts today. But what scams did he do before this human rights foundation donation?

If he received 5btc just by concocting he is from human rights foundation, it really would mean the people here are just naive lol Scammers just think they can get money with just that kind of trick must have been dreaming.

andreibi
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Re: Scam accusation against user humanrightsfoundation
August 27, 2019, 11:08:41 AM
#19
Charity scams using Bitcoin as means of monetary value transfer on the rise - very bullish for Bitcoin. This fake organization may not be the last of its kind here in Bitcointalk. More to come.
o_e_l_e_o
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Re: Scam accusation against user humanrightsfoundation
August 27, 2019, 11:00:27 AM
#18
Whether or not hrf.org are fascists, CIA agents, copyright thieves, or any of the other claims you are making, is irrelevant to whether or not you are trustworthy.

The bottom line is you have ran your "organization" for over 5 years, and have taken in over 5 BTC in donations, yet haven't achieved anything at all. You haven't fulfilled a single one of the claims you made on your original post or on your website.

The site you linked to above - https://universaldeclarationofhumanrights.info/ - simply hosts a document written by the UN (without any attribution, I may add).

Quote from: ?? on ??
that's what they are motherfucker fascist shits
Quote from: ?? on ??
So go to your Venezuelan scammer and fuck him hard in the ass
Yes, you definitely sound like someone who would respect and fight for the rights of all people. Roll Eyes
nutildah
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Re: Scam accusation against user humanrightsfoundation
August 27, 2019, 10:23:11 AM
#17
Quote from: ?? on ??
Quote from: ?? on ??
They've been accepting bitcoin donations since 2013, a year before you started your copycat venture.

LIE! The Bitcoin address they listing on the derivative work which is a copyright infringement because entirely based on my work, received the first transaction in March 2019 when they published the infringing material solely to scam people to believe they donating to us! March 2019 was the date when they published the page you mentioning, see https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://hrf.org/donate-bitcoin

There is zero evidence of this on their archived website. There are zero similarities between their bitcoin donation page and yours.

Dude. They've been around since 2005. You've been around since 2014. You clearly took the same of an organization that had already been in existence for 9 years! Its your fault if you get shitty web ranking results and have a hard time with SEO -- you are using the name of a well-known organization.

For several years they used the URLs humanrightsfoundation.com, humanrightsfoundation.org and thehrf.org. Whenever they moved to the "hrf.org" domain is irrelevant.

Regardless, you've apparently accomplished absolutely nothing in 5 years.

There is no sane reason why anyone would donate money to you.
dkbit98
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Re: Scam accusation against user humanrightsfoundation
August 27, 2019, 09:40:01 AM
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Google is censoring our sites and nobody find it. DuckDuckGo.com and other search engines, even the Russian Yandex.ru or any other Chinese search engine ranking our sites correctly. Again, you expect us to be some superhero without helping us. You are free to help! However, all you do is bully us. Help or forget that we ever talked. Donate and help us build the infrastructure or as I said forget us altogether. We will do without your support in a year or so.

I am using Qwant search engine and all I can find is your numerous subdomains for many countries....

I also don't see you on any social media platforms (including blockchain based)

And where is this Human Rights Academy located?
nutildah
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Re: Scam accusation against user humanrightsfoundation
August 27, 2019, 08:52:23 AM
#15
Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on August 27, 2019, 08:44:30 AM
Quote from: ?? on ??
No, we don't publish human rights violations until we don't receive any.
So in over 5 years and with over 5 BTC in donations, you've not received a single communication, nor have you published a single "report, article or media", nor have you "provided secure tools and communication channels", nor have you "educated the public". You haven't "promoted, protected, or upheld" human rights, because you haven't actually done anything.

How are potential whistle-blowers going to feel comfortable trusting reporting human rights abuses to you and trusting you with information and correspondence which may very well put their lives at risk, when you can't even be trusted to openly and honestly answer basic questions about your "organization"?

I think you got your answer  Cheesy

They probably keep getting bypassed by complainants in favor of the real Human Rights Foundation. Probably should have come up with a more original name.

Kind of reminds me of this:




Quote from: ?? on ??
(talking about anything other than what they have actually accomplished as far as "human rights" are concerned.)

So what have you actually accomplished in your 5 years thus far? Your website has nothing except for a picture of your founder and then of course your section on how to donate. You list no plan of action, no ideas of how you plan to improve human rights, nothing tangible that would suggest you are going to improve anybody's lives anywhere. I gotta tell you, even if you were trying to do this via charity ICO, you would be ridiculed into the ground.

Perhaps its best if you seek donations elsewhere.

This is only a step up from when those Criptonians accounts kept begging for 50 BTC to magically boost bitcoin's acceptance and price. (all their accounts were banned and all their messages deleted)


Quote from: ?? on ??
Your HRF.org is not even existed when I did registered the domain name!

It was registered in 2001. The actual Human Rights Foundation has been in existence since 2005. They've been accepting bitcoin donations since 2013, a year before you started your copycat venture.

Quote from: ?? on ??
SO WHO IS THE SCAMMER? WE OR THESE FASCISTS IN THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING?

All signs point to you.

You can't even provide evidence of a single solitary thing that you've accomplished.
o_e_l_e_o
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Re: Scam accusation against user humanrightsfoundation
August 27, 2019, 08:44:30 AM
#14
Quote from: ?? on ??
No, we don't publish human rights violations until we don't receive any.
So in over 5 years and with over 5 BTC in donations, you've not received a single communication, nor have you published a single "report, article or media", nor have you "provided secure tools and communication channels", nor have you "educated the public". You haven't "promoted, protected, or upheld" human rights, because you haven't actually done anything.

How are potential whistle-blowers going to feel comfortable trusting reporting human rights abuses to you and trusting you with information and correspondence which may very well put their lives at risk, when you can't even be trusted to openly and honestly answer basic questions about your "organization"?
Bitcoin_Arena
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Re: Scam accusation against user humanrightsfoundation
August 27, 2019, 08:35:10 AM
#13
Quote from: ?? on ??
We are not using anymore BitcoinTalk because there is no protection against false flags. All this users do is bully legitimate people who work on valuable and unique projects.
Bye... good luck scamming elsewhere.
A scammer a way each day keeps Bitcointalk clean and a much better forum compared to any other crypto forum around. You scammers are very toxic and always ruin everything you come across.
bitmover
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Re: Scam accusation against user humanrightsfoundation
August 27, 2019, 08:10:10 AM
#12
Quote from: bitmover on August 27, 2019, 07:49:08 AM
You can still answer me now and provide some proof that this address belongs to that organization and not to you only.
Still didn't answer

Quote from: ?? on ??
We deleted your comment because we have the right to do so.
We have the right to tag suspicious users also. And deleting posts without reasons is suspicious

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We explained above that we use donations for development. You can keep raging about scam but that help absolutely nothing. We will continue to exist for a very long time and intelligent Bitcoin users will donate to us and contacting us for information in a proper and respectful way.

Thank you for your attention.
We hope that our flag will let those intelligent users read your posts and ours before deciding to donate to you or not.
nutildah
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Re: Scam accusation against user humanrightsfoundation
August 27, 2019, 07:59:28 AM
#11
Quote from: ?? on ??
The website saying that "Publishing and distributing uncensorable reports, articles and media about human rights violations" because that is exactly what we intend to do! Again we don't have millions of dollars every year because as is noted previously we do not publish U.S. propaganda.

You want to see human right violations? Support us by donating Bitcoin and if you wish you can also write article or report and we happy to publish it if its contains evidence about those human rights abuses.

I read through your website and I'm wondering, what have you accomplished in 5 years of operation? I would have asked this question in your own thread but you seem to have locked it.
bitmover
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Re: Scam accusation against user humanrightsfoundation
August 27, 2019, 07:49:08 AM
#10
Quote from: ?? on ??
Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on August 27, 2019, 06:20:16 AM
Innocent users, when falsely accused, tend to answer the questions they have been asked. They don't delete those questions and lock their thread.

You comment is only deleted because it is linked to hrf.org which copied our donation page, created a derivative work, published the infringing material and scamming people since March of 2019 to make them believe they donating Bitcoin to us!

So now explain to me why was my comment deleted.
You said the proof that you are not a scammer is that you have a blockchain.com tag. I proved you wrong, because that's no proof of anything. Wrong and a lier. And you deleted my post.

You can still answer me now and provide some proof that this address belongs to that organization and not to you only.
dkbit98
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Re: Scam accusation against user humanrightsfoundation
August 27, 2019, 06:51:09 AM
#9
Attitude shown here by founder of 'human rights foundation' is very arrogant.

Maybe he is having genuine intentions or not, but with this he is falling deeper in the 'quicksand' of Bitcointalk forum.
o_e_l_e_o
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Re: Scam accusation against user humanrightsfoundation
August 27, 2019, 06:48:58 AM
#8
Quote from: ?? on ??
Can you explain why you decided to use the name of a widely known human rights organization?
You mean the widely criticized neo-Nazi fascist organization which hides behind human rights?
We have absolutely nothing to do with any United States based organization.
So why did you use the name of a much larger and better known organization? You must appreciate that to an outside user it appears as though you are trying to imitate them and perhaps fool people in to thinking you are in some way affiliated.

Quote from: ?? on ??
Can you provide evidence of any of your claims?

What claim? Be more specific.
These claims:
Quote from: humanrightsfoundation on August 26, 2019, 02:14:25 PM
uses Bitcoin to promote, protect, uphold human rights worldwide
Quote from: humanrightsfoundation on August 26, 2019, 02:14:25 PM
educate the public about basic human rights
Quote from: humanrightsfoundation on August 26, 2019, 02:14:25 PM
provide secure tools and communication channels to report human rights violations safely and anonymously
Quote from: humanrightsfoundation on August 26, 2019, 02:14:25 PM
We have been supported by the same anonymous individuals who donated Bitcoin to WikiLeaks, Internet Archive, Snowden Defense Fund, Free Software Foundation, Tails Project and Netzpolitik.

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Can you show how previous bitcoin donations to that address were spent?

If the Swiss government can not ask this, what makes you think you can?
The Swiss government is not asking for my bitcoin.

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The donations are used for running servers (private tor bridges, hidden services, clearnet servers), paying for the domain names (some of which is premium high priced domains) and paying the cost of other nodes we use for experiments such as decentralization of our websites.
As far as I can tell, your website doesn't actually mention a single human rights violation or provide any information on human rights whatsoever. Have these donations actually done anything at all for advancing human rights, or have they all just been spent on hosting your meager website?

The Tor page which you link to on your website is down, and apparently has been for months.

Your website also says you are "Publishing and distributing uncensorable reports, articles and media about human rights violations". Can you provide links to some of these reports please?
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