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legendary
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It definitely gives confidence to a customer if they see the platform they are gambling on is registered and licenced somewhere. For me personally, the Curacao licence is worthless and pointless because it is being used by the majority of businesses for the very same reason I have cited but nevertheless at least casinos can be held to some sort of account if victims report them to the Curacao authorities.

It should not take long to remove the Curacao logo but they are not doing it. As long as blackjack.fun are not even removing the Curacao logo they should not be used. As for the Costa Rica licence, they should update their link immediately because the conflicting details make them seem very unprofessional: https://blackjack.fun/provably-fair/toc

Trying to look important, I guess. Most players are familiar with the Curacao brand, probably not so much with Costa Rica licensed online casinos. I am sure it would take less than a minute to get rid of the logo but they don't want to in an attempt not to remove any "importance" from the website. It should be replaced with a working link proving they have a valid Costa Rica license, though.
legendary
Activity: 2730
Merit: 7065
Without commenting further on the scam allegation itself, I went to the blackjack.fun website to check if they removed the Curacao logo because it gives the impression that they are operating under their licence but the logo is still there. As there is no link added that takes customers to a verification page that shows a valid licence, what purpose does it serve by blackjack.fun showing the Curacao logo?
Trying to look important, I guess. Most players are familiar with the Curacao brand, probably not so much with Costa Rica licensed online casinos. I am sure it would take less than a minute to get rid of the logo but they don't want to in an attempt not to remove any "importance" from the website. It should be replaced with a working link proving they have a valid Costa Rica license, though.
legendary
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Without commenting further on the scam allegation itself, I went to the blackjack.fun website to check if they removed the Curacao logo because it gives the impression that they are operating under their licence but the logo is still there. As there is no link added that takes customers to a verification page that shows a valid licence, what purpose does it serve by blackjack.fun showing the Curacao logo?

It is disappointing to see they have not removed a small logo from their website (and they should have done it by now) in order to demonstrate they are not trying to mislead their own customers.
legendary
Activity: 2730
Merit: 7065
I did not ask to donate to a Legendary member. I asked to choose a Legendary member and gave 3 examples of members and the chosen one who will accept it should open a free giveaway in games and rounds.
They don't have to do any of that just like you don't have to post a video of you doing jumping jacks before replying to any of my posts if I demanded it from you. Their refusal to do that doesn't make them a scam.

The fact that he did not do this and still let the scam accusation thread run and also locked his thread shows me that he is not a professional casino owner. I know many developers who think they can run a casino, but they couldn't and eventually shut down.
He might be unprofessional and incompetent like you say, but this is a thread where you are accusing him of being a scammer. Incompetence and even stupidity isn't equal to a scam unless, like I said earlier, there is an intentional reason why those bugs are there.
legendary
Activity: 1974
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The first time in so many years here on BCT finally a real, very serious, fair and acceptable answer, even if not all correct IMO.
I wouldn't agree with that. This sub-board is frequented with several individuals who are serious about what they are writing and take their time analyzing these cases. I can mention two from the top of my head who have also written in this thread of yours.

I will answer you later in more detail as soon I am free.
OK. Looking forward to reading what you have to say.

Sorry for late answer

Sorry to disagree, but in this thread so far there has been no one besides you who has read the whole accusation in full and given a fair opinion. Until now, members have posted to show there signature, to attack me for whatever reasons and some who think that Blackjack.fun needs a lawyer on their side.

please let me tell you where I don't agree with you. (I will quote you in red and will give my opinion to it in black)

Were you scammed? No. The casino owner offered you more than what you are owed and you refused it. You keep insisting that you can't be bought.
You keep asking that they donate the $30 (or so) to a trusted legendary member on this forum. I see no reason why they would do that. PM the owner your address, get your $30 or $100 back, and then do with that money whatever you want. No one from their side has to create a BTC price guessing contest or pay anyone else just because you asked for it.


I did not ask to donate to a Legendary member. I asked to choose a Legendary member and gave 3 examples of members and the chosen one who will accept it should open a free giveaway in games and rounds.
as you are talking that I should get $30 or $100 back tells me that you did not understand the problem or you did miss this part. it also looks like that you missed the following part in another thread where I offered again a fair solution (IMO). the link is here
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63436226

Do I believe that you wanted to exploit the forum for personal benefit? I don't think so. Especially not for something as silly as $1 tournaments. Still, you could have handled the communication in a much more professional manner, which you failed to to. Perhaps your intentions were honest and you wanted to test the exploit you found in as many situations as possible. But the fact is, we will never know. The casino and other players found out that you were exploiting the bug before you reported it.

Yes, I found the exploit, but I found it when someone else was using it, which is a big difference since I did not find it and used it to win money in a 1 USDT tourney (LOL). I could wait for a 100 USDT tourney and try to use the exploit to win. again, it looks like you missed it or did not understand what I wrote. I found the exploit when another player used it against me. I then waited for the same situation to come up for me against the same player who used it against me before (in a 1 USDT tourney) and I used it many times in the same moment in the game as I wanted him to understand that I now know the exploit he is using. As it was very obvious what I was doing, I later understood from the owner of Blackjack.fun that players were complaining about me using this exploit. You could ask why didn't the players complain when the exploit was used before? the answer is that the players did not understand the exploit and as it was only once used in the game a normal player will not pay attention to it. you can believe me or not but I was also a casino game tester for some companies. But I used the exploit when the situation came up so many times that even the most stupid player will see it. why would I do this if I want to make money with this exploit?
I asked the owner several times to check the game logs so he could see what I was doing and if I was winning even 1 cent using this exploit. Did he do that? NO - why not???
He could and IMO still can check the logs of all the tournaments I played in and prove to me and everyone that I used the exploit to win the approximately $30.
Again, I tell him to do it and show to all members that I won the $30 using this exploit I found. If he can prove it, I will apologize wherever he wants, close the scam accusation thread and even send him $60 USDT penalty = double what he owes me.

The fact that he did not do this and still let the scam accusation thread run and also locked his thread shows me that he is not a professional casino owner. I know many developers who think they can run a casino, but they couldn't and eventually shut down.

Bottom line = I call it a scam and will bump the scam thread as often as I can. I am well experienced with online casino games and casinos and I can say that he will shut down the Blackjack.fun casino.
BTW I was the first one who shouted Scam before Moneypot owners pulled the rug against their Bankroll Investors, which is why they hate me

Sorry that the answer was longer then I thought. But I again thank you for a fair discussion

Cheers

legendary
Activity: 2730
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The first time in so many years here on BCT finally a real, very serious, fair and acceptable answer, even if not all correct IMO.
I wouldn't agree with that. This sub-board is frequented with several individuals who are serious about what they are writing and take their time analyzing these cases. I can mention two from the top of my head who have also written in this thread of yours.

I will answer you later in more detail as soon I am free.
OK. Looking forward to reading what you have to say.
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
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I have just read the whole thread including the posts you linked to from their (now closed) ANN thread. Here are my conclusions and comments.

Were you scammed? No. The casino owner offered you more than what you are owed and you refused it. You keep insisting that you can't be bought.
You keep asking that they donate the $30 (or so) to a trusted legendary member on this forum. I see no reason why they would do that. PM the owner your address, get your $30 or $100 back, and then do with that money whatever you want. No one from their side has to create a BTC price guessing contest or pay anyone else just because you asked for it.

Do I believe that you wanted to exploit the forum for personal benefit? I don't think so. Especially not for something as silly as $1 tournaments. Still, you could have handled the communication in a much more professional manner, which you failed to to. Perhaps your intentions were honest and you wanted to test the exploit you found in as many situations as possible. But the fact is, we will never know. The casino and other players found out that you were exploiting the bug before you reported it.

Is their KYC requirement a scam? No, it's not. Whether you like it or not, the casino has the right to ask for it. Your failure to comply, gives them the right to freeze your funds, and again, whether you like that or not. They were even willing to drop their KYC demands and pay you triple the amount that was locked in your account, and you saw that as them trying to buy you. I am not sure what it is that you want?!

You want back in to play on their site? They don't have to let you back in, and that doesn't make them scammers. As I said, your intentions might be honest, but your actions speak otherwise. You did report some older bugs and some were fixed, others weren't. However, you didn't report the timer reset bug to them and exploited it several times. In their eyes, you are a player exploiting a bug, and thus no more welcome. Accept that and go elsewhere. You can't force someone to accept your help.

Does the owner's/coder's bad programming skills make them a scammer? Not unless you can prove that the bugs are there to intentionally make people lose their money. You haven't done that. You said that a player used the exploit on you, then you used it multiple times on others. So, it's a player cheating other players and not the casino cheating their users.

Could they have removed the KYC demands and allowed you to keep testing their software? Yes, they could have. They didn't have to, though, and it's their choice to do it or not. Not letting you back in isn't a scam.


This part is for the casino and it's owner.

@blackjack.fun
If you don't have a Curacao license or if you are not in any way regulated by any Curacao entity, which the public can verify by clicking on the seal, then remove the Cucarao logo from the bottom of your site. It's misleading.   

Have you resolved the bug that OP has identified here regarding the timer reset or can it still be abused? If not, why not? It's obvious that your inability to create a properly working Blackjack game affects the gameplay and outcome of rounds. It's still ok during beta testing and while playing with free money, but it's unacceptable in real-money situations where players are depositing and playing with their own coins.

Each of your games and tournaments should have clearly explained rules. I agree with the OP on this. The lack of such information shows a lack of professionalism. It's easily correctable if you want to correct it.

Just WOW and Chapeau

The first time in so many years here on BCT finally a real, very serious, fair and acceptable answer, even if not all correct IMO.
And not just a post to show a signature.
I wish all members were like you

I will answer you later in more detail as soon I am free.

Cheers

legendary
Activity: 2730
Merit: 7065
I have just read the whole thread including the posts you linked to from their (now closed) ANN thread. Here are my conclusions and comments.

Were you scammed? No. The casino owner offered you more than what you are owed and you refused it. You keep insisting that you can't be bought.
You keep asking that they donate the $30 (or so) to a trusted legendary member on this forum. I see no reason why they would do that. PM the owner your address, get your $30 or $100 back, and then do with that money whatever you want. No one from their side has to create a BTC price guessing contest or pay anyone else just because you asked for it.

Do I believe that you wanted to exploit the forum for personal benefit? I don't think so. Especially not for something as silly as $1 tournaments. Still, you could have handled the communication in a much more professional manner, which you failed to to. Perhaps your intentions were honest and you wanted to test the exploit you found in as many situations as possible. But the fact is, we will never know. The casino and other players found out that you were exploiting the bug before you reported it.

Is their KYC requirement a scam? No, it's not. Whether you like it or not, the casino has the right to ask for it. Your failure to comply, gives them the right to freeze your funds, and again, whether you like that or not. They were even willing to drop their KYC demands and pay you triple the amount that was locked in your account, and you saw that as them trying to buy you. I am not sure what it is that you want?!

You want back in to play on their site? They don't have to let you back in, and that doesn't make them scammers. As I said, your intentions might be honest, but your actions speak otherwise. You did report some older bugs and some were fixed, others weren't. However, you didn't report the timer reset bug to them and exploited it several times. In their eyes, you are a player exploiting a bug, and thus no more welcome. Accept that and go elsewhere. You can't force someone to accept your help.

Does the owner's/coder's bad programming skills make them a scammer? Not unless you can prove that the bugs are there to intentionally make people lose their money. You haven't done that. You said that a player used the exploit on you, then you used it multiple times on others. So, it's a player cheating other players and not the casino cheating their users.

Could they have removed the KYC demands and allowed you to keep testing their software? Yes, they could have. They didn't have to, though, and it's their choice to do it or not. Not letting you back in isn't a scam.


This part is for the casino and it's owner.

@blackjack.fun
If you don't have a Curacao license or if you are not in any way regulated by any Curacao entity, which the public can verify by clicking on the seal, then remove the Cucarao logo from the bottom of your site. It's misleading.   

Have you resolved the bug that OP has identified here regarding the timer reset or can it still be abused? If not, why not? It's obvious that your inability to create a properly working Blackjack game affects the gameplay and outcome of rounds. It's still ok during beta testing and while playing with free money, but it's unacceptable in real-money situations where players are depositing and playing with their own coins.

Each of your games and tournaments should have clearly explained rules. I agree with the OP on this. The lack of such information shows a lack of professionalism. It's easily correctable if you want to correct it.
hero member
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A SCAM is SCAM and stays until it is solved

Blackjack.fun and you cannot sell me shit with different taste as SHIT is SHIT and SCAM is SCAM

and you did not read all[/b]

Your scam accusation can be easily supported by the community if there’s an obvious scam happened. Assuming that your concerned is, Blackjack.fun is already willing to compensate to the potential damage for the “bug” that you discovered even though they don’t have bug bounty program.

The problem here is only “YOU” have concern on this bug while the rest of the player on that casino doesn’t bother at all even though they have more play time there than you. Maybe find other victim to support your accusation.
legendary
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Yes, I'm an asshole
Because... You're not providing them the return address yet? They offered to return it, to an address which they ask you to provide, if you didn't give them any answer, is it their fault that they are yet to process the refund?

Please stop with your lies and wrong info. just read the thread before you give your false info

Read my answer not long ago but not a new proposal from me and then tell us what is wrong with it.
just remember that no one can buy me


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63446759

You propose to be allowed to play on their platform again because you want to help them looking for bugs, and they seemingly declined... I am still waiting for you to pinpoint the scam that they do.
legendary
Activity: 1974
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You got your $30 back.

You were offered a $100 bug bounty which you refused.

You have yet to point out what the actual "scam" is and can't name a single victim.

I feel bad for anyone who has to deal with you.

do you read and understand or you just read and don't understand? Huh

No One can buy me with 100$ or more

I did not get 30$

Blackjack.fun still owes me the 30$

I am a victim of their Scam and there are many more who are scammed as they did not fix the bugs

I feel bad for everyone who deals with you., sorry to say that


Because... You're not providing them the return address yet? They offered to return it, to an address which they ask you to provide, if you didn't give them any answer, is it their fault that they are yet to process the refund?

Please stop with your lies and wrong info. just read the thread before you give your false info

Read my answer not long ago but not a new proposal from me and then tell us what is wrong with it.
just remember that no one can buy me


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63446759

legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1462
Yes, I'm an asshole
You got your $30 back.

You were offered a $100 bug bounty which you refused.

You have yet to point out what the actual "scam" is and can't name a single victim.

I feel bad for anyone who has to deal with you.

do you read and understand or you just read and don't understand? Huh

No One can buy me with 100$ or more

I did not get 30$

Blackjack.fun still owes me the 30$

I am a victim of their Scam and there are many more who are scammed as they did not fix the bugs

I feel bad for everyone who deals with you., sorry to say that


Because... You're not providing them the return address yet? They offered to return it, to an address which they ask you to provide, if you didn't give them any answer, is it their fault that they are yet to process the refund?
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
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You got your $30 back.

You were offered a $100 bug bounty which you refused.

You have yet to point out what the actual "scam" is and can't name a single victim.

I feel bad for anyone who has to deal with you.

do you read and understand or you just read and don't understand? Huh

No One can buy me with 100$ or more

I did not get 30$

Blackjack.fun still owes me the 30$

I am a victim of their Scam and there are many more who are scammed as they did not fix the bugs

I feel bad for everyone who deals with you., sorry to say that
legendary
Activity: 3010
Merit: 8114
You got your $30 back.

You were offered a $100 bug bounty which you refused.

You have yet to point out what the actual "scam" is and can't name a single victim.

I feel bad for anyone who has to deal with you.
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
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UP UP as a SCAM is SCAM

I read the whole thread and you failed to demonstrate where the "scam" is. You rejected $100 from them:

I declined his 100USDT offer as it showed me that he wants to buy me and no one can buy me.

Furthermore, none of your complaints make any sense.

This is what a rational person would do: stop the obsession & move on to a better site.

WOW I rejected 100$ LOL

Yeah I should be punished as I rejected 100$ and therefore the Scam is not a Scam

This tells me that you would never reject 100$ but I can tell you and all here that no one can buy me!

and yes

A SCAM is SCAM and stays until it is solved

Blackjack.fun and you cannot sell me shit with different taste as SHIT is SHIT and SCAM is SCAM

and you did not read all
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1462
Yes, I'm an asshole
UP UP as a SCAM is SCAM

I read the whole thread and you failed to demonstrate where the "scam" is. You rejected $100 from them:

I declined his 100USDT offer as it showed me that he wants to buy me and no one can buy me.

Furthermore, none of your complaints make any sense.

This is what a rational person would do: stop the obsession & move on to a better site.

Not only that, they actually return his money. That USDT 100 was --or can be considered as-- an extra for finding a bug, his funds were returned in full as he refuses to do KYC. He insist on the accusation because he's still want to play on the site --because he wanted to look for more glitch to help them--, and they don't want him around.

[...]
the owner told me in PM at the end of our PMs to give him my address and he will send me the USDT and TRX = about 30USDT all together without asking me for the KYC.
then I asked few times ok but what then? will I still be able to go the site and play and give my feedback?
hmm no answer to this question. I am not the only one who knows the time reset glitch which means right now players are exploiting it even he banned me lol and I really wanted only to help.

as I mentioned I think something stinks but still don't understand what it is. as he did not fix many bugs which even other players reported could be that he or he has a friend who is playing the tourneys. just thinking and saying

cheers


legendary
Activity: 3010
Merit: 8114
UP UP as a SCAM is SCAM

I read the whole thread and you failed to demonstrate where the "scam" is. You rejected $100 from them:

I declined his 100USDT offer as it showed me that he wants to buy me and no one can buy me.

Furthermore, none of your complaints make any sense.

This is what a rational person would do: stop the obsession & move on to a better site.
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
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It is very interesting that Blackjack.fun did not accept my well-intentioned offer after Eva asked me for a solution to the problem.

my offer

Eva

why would you need the community here to help you? Don't you understand that you need to come down form the high tree your boss climbed on? the issue was very easy to be solved when I asked you long ago to donate the about 30$ to one or more members here on BCT and let me back in your site to play the free tournaments to check if there are still exploiters like @Ovum. this should be very much in your interest if you really want to stop and fix exploits. hope you remember that I found
among others the @Ovum timer exploit but sadly you banned me instead of @Ovum

this was what I asked for and nothing will change this as you need to show that you are for real and fair.

I would propose that you will in the name of Blackjack.fun and Jackpotracer open in Game and Rounds something like

"What will be the BTC price on January 7, 2024 at xx o'clock? and pay the first 3 who are nearest to the BTC price each one 10$ in BTC"

and to make it even simpler for you - pay the 3 winners the 10$ in chips of your casino. so maybe you will get new customers

just an example as you can do whatever you think or maybe a community member can propose something nicer


here is the link

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63436226

legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
hey guys

you should read this quite new thread about Blackjack.fun as it is almost another Scam Accusation thread.
good read for anyone who is interested in the truth about Blackjack.fun


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/blackjackfun-5479478

small reminder

all this because of 24-30$ Blackjack.fun did not want to pay even I did not ask for withdrawal LOL as I did not help them to find bugs because of the money. After their dirty and disrespectful behavior I even refused 100 USDT for a written document they asked me to give them about the bugs and exploits I found.



legendary
Activity: 1974
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What a Rain of 1 TRX to 11 Players LOL


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